@7Jaguars said:
I bought it raw which is risky but not very much into it. I tend to like EF grades when the coin has nice surfaces but only have a couple...I will post it when it comes.
I think it's AU based on wear. The price rises sharply at AU, so you might consider having it graded. I don't see any significant problems that would prevent a straight grade.
I picked up my very first liberty seated dollar last night.
Congratulations! Watching the auction and all the bidding wars on these CAC approved dollars was amazing. The auction, with its high quality dollars, was also informative in that word seems to be out on the real rarities of seated dollars with CAC approval. Auction also was thought provoking - I simply have to ponder selling my collection into this kind of a frenzied market. Finally, the auction was disappointing in that I was left in the dust (proxy bid on the 1859 dollar of nearly 4x guide - $8K) alas the coin sale price w/vig went to $11K+. So my 1859 example remains - nice but not CAC nice:
Seated dollars are quite beautiful coins. They appear to be gaining acceptance and popularity with collectors.
I'm putting together a Carson City type set, so I needed a liberty seated dollar. Obviously, the 1870-CC is the cheapest year. I've been counting down for months for this auction and saving every spare dollar.
I've been working long hours and didn't feel well last night, so I went to bed about an hour before the auction's start, knowing full well that my live proxy bid would probably endure, as I'd put in a nuclear bid $3K higher than my winning bid. Lol! I want CAC coins on anything over $1000, as I'm a very poor judge of original surfaces and have to rely on CAC's second opinion.
I awakened a little over an hour into the auction and saw that they hadn't gotten to this coin yet, so I went back to sleep. Another hour passed, and I awakened again and saw that not only did I win, but got it for much less than I'd have been willing to pay. With a CAC population of 9, I knew I'd probably be waiting a while for the next one.
@LJenkins11 said:
I grabbed the 73 Arrows right after you to add to my other 1873 varieties.
Nice coin! I should have grabbed that one as well but I see that would have been expensive.
I need an 1873 arrows; I often think my no arrows is an arrows. However, they are relatively common, and it would have been a shame to get into a bidding war over this coin. Congrats!
I finally bought an uncirculated Seated half. Never thought I would, but I couldn't pass up what could very well be the top graded example of this scarce R7 die marriage.
@Barberian said:
I finally bought an uncirculated Seated half. Never thought I would, but I couldn't pass up what could very well be the top graded example of this scarce R7 die marriage.
NGC MS64 1877-S WB-6 "Weird F" (R7)
(Photo by GFRC)
Now you need to find the WB-40 to match it, the second use of the "Weird F" reverse. I have a WB-40 in NGC MS-65 Ex. Eliasburg and I thought long and hard about your example when I saw it pop up on GFRC to complete the set in UNC. A nice addition to your set for sure.
@Barberian said:
I finally bought an uncirculated Seated half. Never thought I would, but I couldn't pass up what could very well be the top graded example of this scarce R7 die marriage.
NGC MS64 1877-S WB-6 "Weird F" (R7)
(Photo by GFRC)
Now you need to find the WB-40 to match it, the second use of the "Weird F" reverse. I have a WB-40 in NGC MS-65 Ex. Eliasburg and I thought long and hard about your example when I saw it pop up on GFRC to complete the set in UNC. A nice addition to your set for sure.
Interesting! I just became aware of the WB-40 and its discovery. The WB-6 was my intro to these "Weird F" halves, so I thought I'd grab that nice example. Then I checked the new die marriages collection by Bill Bugert and found Dennis Fortier's WB-40. Neat! I'll be on the "Weird F" lookout. I saw one in the mirror yesterday. They'll pop up, too, and you know that well. I found the 77-S WB-25 and WB-38 quite easily in one evening on eBay.
So, you purchased the discovery coin. How many other WB-40s are you aware of? There are at least four WB-6s in Coinfacts, BB's S-registry, and this coin. I'm just learning about these now. It's nice to see there's interest in them..
I decided a short while ago to start a budget Seated Half short set.
Just going for all the S mint coins (minus the 78S cause let's be realistic) in well circulated grades with that oh so pleasant look to them. Should be 24 coins if I did the math right. I don't know why I'm so obsessed with the 19th century S mint coinage but I'm not fighting it, it is what it is. I do have to admit one of the things about starting this modest collection that interested me the most was the thought of sharing the additions with all of you.
Haven't decided yet on what album brand/type I'll be storing them in but once I do the ones I get that are slabbed will get liberated.
First addition arrived today. Of the few varieties on CoinFacts I think it most closely matches the "WB-8 High Date Very Small S". I welcome the more knowledgeable to chime in here and correct or confirm...? It's in NGC VF30 plastic which I think is a bit optimistic on the part of the graders. It'll get recorded in my records as a VF20. Regardless of the number I find this coin marvelous. It makes me smile every time I look at it and I think that's what counts.
@Barberian said:
I finally bought an uncirculated Seated half. Never thought I would, but I couldn't pass up what could very well be the top graded example of this scarce R7 die marriage.
NGC MS64 1877-S WB-6 "Weird F" (R7)
(Photo by GFRC)
Now you need to find the WB-40 to match it, the second use of the "Weird F" reverse. I have a WB-40 in NGC MS-65 Ex. Eliasburg and I thought long and hard about your example when I saw it pop up on GFRC to complete the set in UNC. A nice addition to your set for sure.
Interesting! I just became aware of the WB-40 and its discovery. The WB-6 was my intro to these "Weird F" halves, so I thought I'd grab that nice example. Then I checked the new die marriages collection by Bill Bugert and found Dennis Fortier's WB-40. Neat! I'll be on the "Weird F" lookout. I saw one in the mirror yesterday. They'll pop up, too, and you know that well. I found the 77-S WB-25 and WB-38 quite easily in one evening on eBay.
So, you purchased the discovery coin. How many other WB-40s are you aware of? There are at least four WB-6s in Coinfacts, BB's S-registry, and this coin. I'm just learning about these now. It's nice to see there's interest in them..
I didn't purchase the discovery coin, that one was was reported as a PCGS AU details coin. I noticed my N65 Ex. Eliasburg pop up in a dealer's inventory and once I recognized that it was a fairly rare new die marriage with all of the other bells and whistles I just had to have it. I believe this new die marriage was reported in the LSCC census for S mint seated halves and there are a few of them out there. I was trying to find my copy to give you the numbers, but I can't place my hands on it at the moment. The 77-S WB-38 is not really an R5 in my opinion, but I think you did well on the WB-25 as I do think they are much harder to find and are more deserving of their rarity rating.
Apparently, there are at least four WB-40s: Your NGC MS65, an AU details coin that was the discovery coin (?), an XF40, and an F12, according to Coin Facts. I'll have to ask Dennis about his discovery coin, and research the "Weird F's" further in the Gobrecht Journal. I had heard of it, looked it up and became aware of the Weird F just before seeing the MS64 on GFRC. All within a week's time. It's odd how that happens sometimes.
Again, there are four WB-6s: my NGC MS64, an MS62 in BB, and an XF45 and VF30 in Coin Facts. I'll be on the lookout for "Weird Fs" in the future.
Oddly enough, the coin in-hand looks much like Gerry's photos. What one cannot see in his photos, he depicted very well in his description. It's somewhat prooflike so direct lighting yields a cameo look against partially reflective surfaces. The reverse has very light, peripheral amber toning, and the "Weird F" is very sharp. The coin has both roller lines and die polish on it.
Here's another one just added recently. Looks like it has the same reverse as @Catbert 's 65S, just a bit later die state. The reverse is fun on this one.
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I think it's AU based on wear. The price rises sharply at AU, so you might consider having it graded. I don't see any significant problems that would prevent a straight grade.
I picked up my very first liberty seated dollar last night.
My Carson City Morgan Registry Set
Congratulations! Watching the auction and all the bidding wars on these CAC approved dollars was amazing. The auction, with its high quality dollars, was also informative in that word seems to be out on the real rarities of seated dollars with CAC approval. Auction also was thought provoking - I simply have to ponder selling my collection into this kind of a frenzied market. Finally, the auction was disappointing in that I was left in the dust (proxy bid on the 1859 dollar of nearly 4x guide - $8K) alas the coin sale price w/vig went to $11K+. So my 1859 example remains - nice but not CAC nice:
Seated dollars are quite beautiful coins. They appear to be gaining acceptance and popularity with collectors.
@JBN
I'm putting together a Carson City type set, so I needed a liberty seated dollar. Obviously, the 1870-CC is the cheapest year. I've been counting down for months for this auction and saving every spare dollar.
I've been working long hours and didn't feel well last night, so I went to bed about an hour before the auction's start, knowing full well that my live proxy bid would probably endure, as I'd put in a nuclear bid $3K higher than my winning bid. Lol! I want CAC coins on anything over $1000, as I'm a very poor judge of original surfaces and have to rely on CAC's second opinion.
I awakened a little over an hour into the auction and saw that they hadn't gotten to this coin yet, so I went back to sleep. Another hour passed, and I awakened again and saw that not only did I win, but got it for much less than I'd have been willing to pay. With a CAC population of 9, I knew I'd probably be waiting a while for the next one.
My Carson City Morgan Registry Set
I grabbed this just before the seated dollar fireworks went off.
XF45 CAC
I grabbed the 73 Arrows right after you to add to my other 1873 varieties.
My first chopped Trade, freshly back from CAC. Stickered pop 2 in AU58, 7 coins higher.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Nice coin! I should have grabbed that one as well but I see that would have been expensive.
I need an 1873 arrows; I often think my no arrows is an arrows. However, they are relatively common, and it would have been a shame to get into a bidding war over this coin. Congrats!
My 73 no arrows, closed 3
XF40
Another colorized, overexposed Trueview.
I finally bought an uncirculated Seated half. Never thought I would, but I couldn't pass up what could very well be the top graded example of this scarce R7 die marriage.
NGC MS64 1877-S WB-6 "Weird F" (R7)
(Photo by GFRC)
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This is a nice 1837 V-6, with the "crumbling" right of Liberty's arm and knee into the field.
Now you need to find the WB-40 to match it, the second use of the "Weird F" reverse. I have a WB-40 in NGC MS-65 Ex. Eliasburg and I thought long and hard about your example when I saw it pop up on GFRC to complete the set in UNC. A nice addition to your set for sure.
Seated Dollar Collection
Interesting! I just became aware of the WB-40 and its discovery. The WB-6 was my intro to these "Weird F" halves, so I thought I'd grab that nice example. Then I checked the new die marriages collection by Bill Bugert and found Dennis Fortier's WB-40. Neat! I'll be on the "Weird F" lookout. I saw one in the mirror yesterday. They'll pop up, too, and you know that well. I found the 77-S WB-25 and WB-38 quite easily in one evening on eBay.
So, you purchased the discovery coin. How many other WB-40s are you aware of? There are at least four WB-6s in Coinfacts, BB's S-registry, and this coin. I'm just learning about these now. It's nice to see there's interest in them..
I decided a short while ago to start a budget Seated Half short set.
Just going for all the S mint coins (minus the 78S cause let's be realistic) in well circulated grades with that oh so pleasant look to them. Should be 24 coins if I did the math right. I don't know why I'm so obsessed with the 19th century S mint coinage but I'm not fighting it, it is what it is. I do have to admit one of the things about starting this modest collection that interested me the most was the thought of sharing the additions with all of you.
Haven't decided yet on what album brand/type I'll be storing them in but once I do the ones I get that are slabbed will get liberated.
First addition arrived today. Of the few varieties on CoinFacts I think it most closely matches the "WB-8 High Date Very Small S". I welcome the more knowledgeable to chime in here and correct or confirm...? It's in NGC VF30 plastic which I think is a bit optimistic on the part of the graders. It'll get recorded in my records as a VF20. Regardless of the number I find this coin marvelous. It makes me smile every time I look at it and I think that's what counts.
Nice coin! As I'm sure you've encountered, the 1850s and 1860s are tough dates! Here's one that you might like!
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
I didn't purchase the discovery coin, that one was was reported as a PCGS AU details coin. I noticed my N65 Ex. Eliasburg pop up in a dealer's inventory and once I recognized that it was a fairly rare new die marriage with all of the other bells and whistles I just had to have it. I believe this new die marriage was reported in the LSCC census for S mint seated halves and there are a few of them out there. I was trying to find my copy to give you the numbers, but I can't place my hands on it at the moment. The 77-S WB-38 is not really an R5 in my opinion, but I think you did well on the WB-25 as I do think they are much harder to find and are more deserving of their rarity rating.
Seated Dollar Collection
Apparently, there are at least four WB-40s: Your NGC MS65, an AU details coin that was the discovery coin (?), an XF40, and an F12, according to Coin Facts. I'll have to ask Dennis about his discovery coin, and research the "Weird F's" further in the Gobrecht Journal. I had heard of it, looked it up and became aware of the Weird F just before seeing the MS64 on GFRC. All within a week's time. It's odd how that happens sometimes.
Again, there are four WB-6s: my NGC MS64, an MS62 in BB, and an XF45 and VF30 in Coin Facts. I'll be on the lookout for "Weird Fs" in the future.
Oddly enough, the coin in-hand looks much like Gerry's photos. What one cannot see in his photos, he depicted very well in his description. It's somewhat prooflike so direct lighting yields a cameo look against partially reflective surfaces. The reverse has very light, peripheral amber toning, and the "Weird F" is very sharp. The coin has both roller lines and die polish on it.
Here's another one just added recently. Looks like it has the same reverse as @Catbert 's 65S, just a bit later die state. The reverse is fun on this one.
Love it!
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