A 73-P dollar is underrated. It's tougher by a good stretch than a 71 or 72 plain coin. But it's priced very close to those two issues. Congrats and good luck if/when you submit.
Good to know! The coin is currently in for grading (just received by our host) and I will let you know the outcome.
1843 WB25. It's got a rim hit and possible planchet defect at the arm fold, but it's original, at least! It's been added to my stash of 1843-P DMs. Edited photo to add more exposure.
I spotted this 1855 in a PCGS genuine AU-details holder on EBay and checked it for the 1855/854 overdate. The seller's photos suggested it might be an overdate but weren't 100% conclusive in my mind.
Seeing that it was a Gold Shield coin that had been recently slabbed, I checked for a TrueView.
Bingo! A fairly early die state as well. A bit pricey at $285 BIN for an AU-details coin (however, PCGS AU50 1855/854s sell for about $1000), but I had to have it as another example of a misattributed coin in a TPG holder, and with a TrueView with it as well.
@Barberian said:
I spotted this 1855 in a PCGS genuine AU-details holder on EBay and checked it for the 1855/854 overdate. The seller's photos suggested it might be an overdate but weren't 100% conclusive in my mind.
Seeing that it was a Gold Shield coin that had been recently slabbed, I checked for a TrueView.
Bingo! A fairly early die state as well. A bit pricey at $285 BIN for an AU-details coin (however, PCGS AU50 1855/854s sell for about $1000), but I had to have it as another example of a misattributed coin in a TPG holder, and with a TrueView with it as well.
Doesn't look that bad, nice pick-up!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
That is a very nice example you have there as well.
I'm looking at the 1867 dollar next.
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
That is a very nice example you have there as well.
I'm looking at the 1867 dollar next.
Hi Kaj1,
I was curious if you have an 1867 theme or if just the 1867 dollar appealed to you? I know the 1867 is tougher in higher grades than the surrounding years 1866,1868.
Oops, just saw thread where this is 100 years before your birth. If you get into gold, the 1867 $2.5 is particularly undervalued compared with its rarity. The 1867 5.00 is undervalued as well. Both are from Philly mint.
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
Those are great! Last summer I got the 1865 half dime, also a low mintage and surviving population. 👍
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
Those are great! Last summer I got the 1865 half dime, also a low mintage and surviving population. 👍
Fun stuff!
Hi Ashland,
Your 1865 is a lovely Half Dime! Rarest Civil War date in the series! I got to see it on your Youtube channel too!
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
Those are great! Last summer I got the 1865 half dime, also a low mintage and surviving population. 👍
Fun stuff!
Hi Ashland,
Your 1865 is a lovely Half Dime! Rarest Civil War date in the series! I got to see it on your Youtube channel too!
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@Catbert Your 1843-O looks to be a late die state WB2 (R3), though a reed count is needed to confirm the die state.
I bought an NGC VG10 CAC 1887 at the FUN show but failed to copy the seller's photos at that time. Here are some photos I found on NGC's cert. pages that I edited to look more like the coin in hand. This coin is not particularly choice, IMO, but low grade 1887's in decent condition are apparently hard to find. I'm happy with it.
Here's another coin I found photos for on NGC for which I hadn't had photos. It was impossible to edit it to look like the coin in hand. The photo makes the coin look blotchy and ugly. In hand, the coin has a nice patina with more subtle color changes. It looks like it has dirt on it here. Too ugly to post?
@LJenkins11 said:
This thread needed a bump. The final year of the Carson City half dollars with a mintage of 62,000 and only one known die marriage.
1878-CC, WB-1, XF40, R-4
It looks parched, colorful, and very interesting, like something out of Nevada. Its minor flaws lend to its beauty. They speak for its environment. One of the few survivors. I like it more and more every time I see it.
Somehow, I posted the above post twice, and since I cannot delete a post, this is essentially a 'hole filler' post.
Anticipating a high closing price for an ideal "Everyman" coin, I had no intention of bidding on the 1852, but when the bid is at $2640 all in, and the auctioneer says, "Going twice," what are you gonna do? Let the coveted and long sought 1852 walk away from you for peanuts?
So, I went for an "Everyman ride" that stopped at $4560 all in. Now how do I tell my girlfriend I spent 6 mortgage payments for a half dollar?
So, I went for an "Everyman ride" that stopped at $4560 all in. Now how do I tell my girlfriend I spent 6 mortgage payments for a half dollar?
Which girlfriend? Your new girlfriend was born in 1852, and she's cool with you spending money on her.
I'm very happy that I acquired an 1852 half before Seated halves took off in popularity. It was somewhere around 10 years ago. I got an 1851 a couple of years ago when I saw Seated 50c prices starting to get red hot, but I never bought an 1850.
So, I went for an "Everyman ride" that stopped at $4560 all in. Now how do I tell my girlfriend I spent 6 mortgage payments for a half dollar?
Which girlfriend? Your new girlfriend was born in 1852, and she's cool with you spending money on her.
I'm very happy that I acquired an 1852 half before Seated halves took off in popularity. It was somewhere around 10 years ago. I got an 1851 a couple of years ago when I saw Seated 50c prices starting to get red hot, but I never bought an 1850.
Same here, but for dates other than the 1852 and the remaining 5 coins. I started collecting SLH around 2006 and went after the semi-key coins from the start when I saw coins I liked. For many dates, I'm glad I did! But there are a lot of them in the SLH. The 78-S was out of the question even then because I'd never had the income or spent anywhere close to that kind of money for coins back then. I should have stretched hard to get one.
What has hurt me was not going to coin shows, shops, and hitting auction houses more 15 years ago and SEEING sellers' inventories. My interactions with local coin shop owners were poor, so I was mainly working eBay (it was better 15 years ago than it is now, IMO), with no interaction with those in the hobby beyond these boards. I returned a lot of coins (e.g., 70-CC) because my tastes didn't match sellers' superlative written descriptions of their coins. At one point, I became tired of returning expensive coins and kept a few about which I was ambivalent. Pricewise, I'm glad I did!
It's been a while since I posted here, but I thought I'd share this cool 1839-O half dime. Lots going on with this one! ANACS VF-35 and pix courtesy Barberkeys....
@paesan said:
It's been a while since I posted here, but I thought I'd share this cool 1839-O half dime. Lots going on with this one! ANACS VF-35 and pix courtesy Barberkeys....
The reverse reminds me of "The Clash of the Titans" movie... let's get kraken'
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@paesan said:
It's been a while since I posted here, but I thought I'd share this cool 1839-O half dime. Lots going on with this one! ANACS VF-35 and pix courtesy Barberkeys....
@sedulous said:
The reverse reminds me of "The Clash of the Titans" movie... let's get kraken'
Yes, it's one of the best shattered reverses in the series (one of the Top 100 overall).
Plus you get the repunched 1 and 9 in the date.
In this late die state with the heavy die crack through I1 it's V-2c.
It's a readily available variety, though usually not this nice.
@paesan said:
Can one of the experts attribute this dime for me? Thanks! PCGS XF-40...
Obv: DR 1L or 1C, medium or slightly high, slight down slope.
Rev: Type I, mm Lt,C
Possible known Type I reverses based on mm position are B, F, H, K, P, Q, S, V.
(Note: the "Type I Reverse Die and Mintmark Position Comparison Guide" stops short at Reverse O).
B is out because it does not have the "misaligned N".
F is out because it does not have the "uneven M".
H is probably out because it does not appear to have the repunched right base of M.
K is possible, but your coin is not F-112 because yours does not have the high date.
P, Q, S are possible, but the DR rules out F-118, 119, 121.
V is possible, and F-124 has the right date position, but I don't see the defect on left leg. Maybe that is a late die state, though.
I had just woken up, checked eBay and saw that an eBay coin auction I wanted to snipe on was closing in one minute. I entered my snipe bid, hit the bid button, and saw that I'd bid a 4-figure amount instead of a low 3-figure amount, but my hand was too shaky to make the change before the auction closed. It went for $50 more than my intended bid.
A "meh" coin, a bit scuffy, but it's a doubled date (R4) that will straight grade if desired.
I never found the 1866-P Seated half to be very easy to locate in XF-AU grades. Long ago, it had a reputation as just slightly better than common, but it took me forever to find a decent XF that I could get into a PCGS holder. I had examples of all of the other 1860s P-mints before I landed an 1866.
From Wikipedia...
The Income Tax Act 1842[1] (citation 5 & 6 Vict c. 35) was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, passed under the government of Robert Peel, which re-introduced an income tax in Britain, at the rate of 7 pence (2.9%, there then being 240 pence in the pound) in the pound on all annual incomes greater than £150. It was the first imposition of income tax in Britain outside of wartime. Although promoted as a temporary measure, income tax has been levied continually in Britain ever since. In its detail, the Act of 1842 was substantially similar to the Income Tax Act 1803 introduced by Henry Addington during the Napoleonic Wars.
Where have we heard that an income tax was temporary...lol
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@rhedden said:
I never found the 1866-P Seated half to be very easy to locate in XF-AU grades. Long ago, it had a reputation as just slightly better than common, but it took me forever to find a decent XF that I could get into a PCGS holder. I had examples of all of the other 1860s P-mints before I landed an 1866.
I have one in QA now. It has interesting loden toning. After not seeing the collection for a few years in the SDB, I really liked the coin and chose to submit it for grading. My notes say "WB3 (R4), EF40, Nice!" We'll see.
A beautiful example of a very underrated coin. I believe recent LSCC surveys put it with coins like the 66-S NM and the 55-S in rarity based upon examples reported by members.
"In a recent survey of S-mint seated halves belonging to LSCC members (Gobrecht Journal #142, 2021), the 1873-S was the second rarest date among the coins reported after the 1878-S. Out of a total of 1,814 S-mint coins reported, counts for the five scarcest dates were: 1878-S - 7, 1873-S - 35, 1866-S NM - 36, 1855-S - 37, and 1857-S - 49 specimens. The 1874-S was tied for eighth with 62 coins submitted. I didn't realize the 73-S was this scarce, i.e., in the scarcity neighborhood of the 55-S and 57-S. At the current time, there are about a dozen low-grade 74-Ss on eBay but only 3 high-grade 73-Ss."
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Good to know! The coin is currently in for grading (just received by our host) and I will let you know the outcome.
Dug this out of my snowbank-entombed mailbox.
Here's one I picked up recently in an OGH 64.
Tom
1843 WB25. It's got a rim hit and possible planchet defect at the arm fold, but it's original, at least! It's been added to my stash of 1843-P DMs. Edited photo to add more exposure.
I spotted this 1855 in a PCGS genuine AU-details holder on EBay and checked it for the 1855/854 overdate. The seller's photos suggested it might be an overdate but weren't 100% conclusive in my mind.
Seeing that it was a Gold Shield coin that had been recently slabbed, I checked for a TrueView.
Bingo! A fairly early die state as well. A bit pricey at $285 BIN for an AU-details coin (however, PCGS AU50 1855/854s sell for about $1000), but I had to have it as another example of a misattributed coin in a TPG holder, and with a TrueView with it as well.
Excellent sleuthing! Way to go!
Doesn't look that bad, nice pick-up!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I love this choice 1867 business strike! The 6,000 mintage is so cool, its the lowest of any regular issue Liberty Seated Dimes.
It's so hard to find a mid grade example of this issue. Some of these were acquired by collectors early on, with many more high grade coins remaining. However most disappeared, with about 150 existing in all grades. Congratulations on owning this!!!!
When I was a kid back in 1970, I made a list of all of the coins that I would want in the future. I only knew that mintage was related to rarity and this coin was at the top of the list. A good was about $35. I didn't get an 1867 dime until about 2015. I think I only found 2 mid grade coins at shows from 1980 to now. Mine is shown below.
That is a very nice example you have there as well.
I'm looking at the 1867 dollar next.
Hi Kaj1,
I was curious if you have an 1867 theme or if just the 1867 dollar appealed to you? I know the 1867 is tougher in higher grades than the surrounding years 1866,1868.
Oops, just saw thread where this is 100 years before your birth. If you get into gold, the 1867 $2.5 is particularly undervalued compared with its rarity. The 1867 5.00 is undervalued as well. Both are from Philly mint.
Wow, all I can say is those are some beautiful coins guys!
Those are great! Last summer I got the 1865 half dime, also a low mintage and surviving population. 👍
Fun stuff!
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Hi Ashland,
Your 1865 is a lovely Half Dime! Rarest Civil War date in the series! I got to see it on your Youtube channel too!
Thank you! I appreciate the compliment. 👍
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Gorgeous quarter! Love the green overtones.
This thread needed a bump. The final year of the Carson City half dollars with a mintage of 62,000 and only one known die marriage.
1878-CC, WB-1, XF40, R-4
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@Catbert Your 1843-O looks to be a late die state WB2 (R3), though a reed count is needed to confirm the die state.
I bought an NGC VG10 CAC 1887 at the FUN show but failed to copy the seller's photos at that time. Here are some photos I found on NGC's cert. pages that I edited to look more like the coin in hand. This coin is not particularly choice, IMO, but low grade 1887's in decent condition are apparently hard to find. I'm happy with it.
Here's another coin I found photos for on NGC for which I hadn't had photos. It was impossible to edit it to look like the coin in hand. The photo makes the coin look blotchy and ugly. In hand, the coin has a nice patina with more subtle color changes. It looks like it has dirt on it here. Too ugly to post?
It looks parched, colorful, and very interesting, like something out of Nevada. Its minor flaws lend to its beauty. They speak for its environment. One of the few survivors. I like it more and more every time I see it.
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1850 NGC AU55
1852 PCGS AU58 CAC
Ouch! I got robbed by the Everymen!
Somehow, I posted the above post twice, and since I cannot delete a post, this is essentially a 'hole filler' post.
Anticipating a high closing price for an ideal "Everyman" coin, I had no intention of bidding on the 1852, but when the bid is at $2640 all in, and the auctioneer says, "Going twice," what are you gonna do? Let the coveted and long sought 1852 walk away from you for peanuts?
So, I went for an "Everyman ride" that stopped at $4560 all in. Now how do I tell my girlfriend I spent 6 mortgage payments for a half dollar?
Which girlfriend? Your new girlfriend was born in 1852, and she's cool with you spending money on her.
I'm very happy that I acquired an 1852 half before Seated halves took off in popularity. It was somewhere around 10 years ago. I got an 1851 a couple of years ago when I saw Seated 50c prices starting to get red hot, but I never bought an 1850.
Same here, but for dates other than the 1852 and the remaining 5 coins. I started collecting SLH around 2006 and went after the semi-key coins from the start when I saw coins I liked. For many dates, I'm glad I did! But there are a lot of them in the SLH. The 78-S was out of the question even then because I'd never had the income or spent anywhere close to that kind of money for coins back then. I should have stretched hard to get one.
What has hurt me was not going to coin shows, shops, and hitting auction houses more 15 years ago and SEEING sellers' inventories. My interactions with local coin shop owners were poor, so I was mainly working eBay (it was better 15 years ago than it is now, IMO), with no interaction with those in the hobby beyond these boards. I returned a lot of coins (e.g., 70-CC) because my tastes didn't match sellers' superlative written descriptions of their coins. At one point, I became tired of returning expensive coins and kept a few about which I was ambivalent. Pricewise, I'm glad I did!
Beautiful coin! Rare this nice!
It's been a while since I posted here, but I thought I'd share this cool 1839-O half dime. Lots going on with this one! ANACS VF-35 and pix courtesy Barberkeys....
I bought this before I knew any better than buying a cleaned coin.
Shiny things distract me.
Can one of the experts attribute this dime for me? Thanks! PCGS XF-40...
The reverse reminds me of "The Clash of the Titans" movie... let's get kraken'
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Yes, it's one of the best shattered reverses in the series (one of the Top 100 overall).
Plus you get the repunched 1 and 9 in the date.
In this late die state with the heavy die crack through I1 it's V-2c.
It's a readily available variety, though usually not this nice.
Obv: DR 1L or 1C, medium or slightly high, slight down slope.
Rev: Type I, mm Lt,C
Possible known Type I reverses based on mm position are B, F, H, K, P, Q, S, V.
(Note: the "Type I Reverse Die and Mintmark Position Comparison Guide" stops short at Reverse O).
B is out because it does not have the "misaligned N".
F is out because it does not have the "uneven M".
H is probably out because it does not appear to have the repunched right base of M.
K is possible, but your coin is not F-112 because yours does not have the high date.
P, Q, S are possible, but the DR rules out F-118, 119, 121.
V is possible, and F-124 has the right date position, but I don't see the defect on left leg. Maybe that is a late die state, though.
I had just woken up, checked eBay and saw that an eBay coin auction I wanted to snipe on was closing in one minute. I entered my snipe bid, hit the bid button, and saw that I'd bid a 4-figure amount instead of a low 3-figure amount, but my hand was too shaky to make the change before the auction closed. It went for $50 more than my intended bid.
A "meh" coin, a bit scuffy, but it's a doubled date (R4) that will straight grade if desired.
Well, that’s one way to place a nuclear bid!!! 😂
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I never found the 1866-P Seated half to be very easy to locate in XF-AU grades. Long ago, it had a reputation as just slightly better than common, but it took me forever to find a decent XF that I could get into a PCGS holder. I had examples of all of the other 1860s P-mints before I landed an 1866.
The only "copper" seated coin the US Mint ever produced (I think).
I would rather join with an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by sheep.
Here is a pair of Seated coins from my first slabbing experiment for the thread:
and
From Wikipedia...
The Income Tax Act 1842[1] (citation 5 & 6 Vict c. 35) was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, passed under the government of Robert Peel, which re-introduced an income tax in Britain, at the rate of 7 pence (2.9%, there then being 240 pence in the pound) in the pound on all annual incomes greater than £150. It was the first imposition of income tax in Britain outside of wartime. Although promoted as a temporary measure, income tax has been levied continually in Britain ever since. In its detail, the Act of 1842 was substantially similar to the Income Tax Act 1803 introduced by Henry Addington during the Napoleonic Wars.
Where have we heard that an income tax was temporary...lol
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I have one in QA now. It has interesting loden toning. After not seeing the collection for a few years in the SDB, I really liked the coin and chose to submit it for grading. My notes say "WB3 (R4), EF40, Nice!" We'll see.
1873-S, Arrows, WB-1, XF45, Mintage 228,000, R-3+
A beautiful example of a very underrated coin. I believe recent LSCC surveys put it with coins like the 66-S NM and the 55-S in rarity based upon examples reported by members.
My comments from the excellent "1873-S" thread started by rhedden:
http://forums.collectors.com/discussion/936772/the-1873-s-seated-half-dollar-a-tough-coin-to-find
"In a recent survey of S-mint seated halves belonging to LSCC members (Gobrecht Journal #142, 2021), the 1873-S was the second rarest date among the coins reported after the 1878-S. Out of a total of 1,814 S-mint coins reported, counts for the five scarcest dates were: 1878-S - 7, 1873-S - 35, 1866-S NM - 36, 1855-S - 37, and 1857-S - 49 specimens. The 1874-S was tied for eighth with 62 coins submitted. I didn't realize the 73-S was this scarce, i.e., in the scarcity neighborhood of the 55-S and 57-S. At the current time, there are about a dozen low-grade 74-Ss on eBay but only 3 high-grade 73-Ss."
Great link @Barberian I wasn't aware of that thread, very good information.