It has what appears to be machine doubling aroud the entire reverse on the lettering . Also on the front . The word liberty. Shoud I have sent it under mint error ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe machine doubling would be considered an "error", and accordingly almost never carries any sort of premium...surely not enough to ever be worth paying an error fee, on top of a grading fee the worth of which would even be questioned by most.
There is a doubled die obverse for the date, but your coin is not that variety. There is also a doubled die reverse known for the date, but your coin is not that variety either (it is paired with a Small Date obverse). Strike doubling is generally not collectible and is considered a form of damage (and to be honest, I don't see much of that on your coin either). Frankly, you would have been better off if they had graded that thing AU58, at least then you could have recouped your fees from someone building an Everyman set.
Sean Reynolds
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<< <i>By the looks of the PCGS #, yours is the variety. Probably top pop since they put up a pic. >>
They put up a pic because it was submitted under Secure Plus. All Secure Plus coins get a pic.
I'm not seeing a variety other than Bronze Large Date which makes me wonder why someone would submit this common coin under that submission level and expense.
I don't understand??
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
my first thought was in something to do with designer's intials or the brown hiding some amazing color a lil concerned about that spot above the left top of the memorial...hopefully it's dormant congrats though
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Sorry, I assumed by the big PCGS # that it was a variety. Maybe they (PCGS) had to insert numbers because of 1982. If I remember correctly in 1982 there were like 8 different types. Large and small and composition combinations. Which are varieties to me.
If the OP wants to have all 8 this is what has to be done.
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I thought we went through this already and came to a consensus that this was not a true DD? Maybe I'm wrong and I'm missing the point of all the expense to get this coin graded....I dunno, I'm lost for words, but that has happened to me more than once.
You guys are missing a tremendous coin here. It's not like they come around often. >>
No, they come around all the time, it's just not everyday that someone spends the money to get one slabbed.
Sean Reynolds
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"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
I don't feel too bad about some of my submissions now. If the OP is happy with the coin then that's all that matters, but I'm at a loss as to why this was slabbed myself.
I would have spent it instead of spending money on it to get it slabbed...or sold it RAW on eBay...or sent it to Teletrade and let them slab it and auction it...
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With all due respect, the OP needs to learn about the series he or she wishes to collect, BEFORE spending hard earned dollars. I checked the pop report, and there are a number of 63 thru 67 red examples in the pop report. (coin #146017). At 65 for the secure plus, 16.95 for shipping and 8 for handling, the OP could have owned a nice 100 dollar coin instead of a slab worth about............ uh one cent. Please ask for advice OP, before spending your money. Shag
Would the OP please come back and tells us why he had it slabbed? >>
He said why on the first page of the thread - because of the strike doubling. He even asked if he should have ponied up for the variety plus service. He also posted on a different thread asking if PCGS would attribute it as a new variety, though I don't expect you to have seen that. Basically, he made an installment payment on his numismatic tuition.
Also, there are only seven varieties of 1982 cents, the 1982-D small date was not struck in copper.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
The reason that I asked was it a doubled die was there is quite a bit of dpubling on the front and back of the coin...whether it's machine doubling,hub doubling or machine damage it's there. The 9 and the 2 in the date is split all the way down. The 8 is stamped twice. I know I need to post better pitcures..I am working on that.. I realize all of that it is all different and that machine damage on the lettering on a coin has no monetary value.
My main goal is to get an example of each varity from 1982, 1972, and 1955 It's not about the value of the coins. Its all about collecting and passing these sets on to someone in the future so they have a unique piece of american history. from different years. I asked about this coin because I have never seen one with this type of damage doublig etc. on both sides. ( If someone has a pitcure of lincoln cent with odd lettering all the way around on both sides please post a pitcure that would be greatly apprecaited )
The reason I asked if I should have submitted it under the variaty submission was after reading about different varaties ( here ) I didn't know if pcgs would contact you if your coin was a new varity or not. I apprecatite everyones feed back.
The reason I asked if I should have submitted it under the variaty submission was after reading about different varaties ( here ) I didn't know if pcgs would contact you if your coin was a new varity or not. I apprecatite everyones feed back.
All in all It's still a cool coin :-)
Im supprised they didn't contact you,before grading it
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Sean Reynolds
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1982 Bronze Large Date MS62BN
It's a Pop 1 with none higher.
Awesome!!
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<< <i>By the looks of the PCGS #, yours is the variety. Probably top pop since they put up a pic. >>
They put up a pic because it was submitted under Secure Plus. All Secure Plus coins get a pic.
I'm not seeing a variety other than Bronze Large Date which makes me wonder why someone would submit this common coin under that submission level and expense.
I don't understand??
The name is LEE!
I'd love first shot at that one if it is ever available.
peacockcoins
a lil concerned about that spot above the left top of the memorial...hopefully it's dormant
congrats though
If the OP wants to have all 8 this is what has to be done.
<< <i>Beautiful coin. Looks MS63 BR to me.
I'd love first shot at that one if it is ever available. >>
???? Its a common penny found everyday.
The submmiter must have made a mistake.
"Is it the Brown designation that matters?"
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For the Pop 1, yes.
There's a MS65RB, which is Top Pop for Red
and Brown, and there're 9 MS67RD coins for
that designation of the '82 Large Date.
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"Sooooo....what's it worth?"
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A penny?
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Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
<< <i>Sooooo....what's it worth? 1c? >>
Worth 2,500% more to me (at the very minimum).
You guys are missing a tremendous coin here. It's not like they come around often.
peacockcoins
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<< <i>Sooooo....what's it worth? 1c? >>
Worth 2,500% more to me (at the very minimum).
You guys are missing a tremendous coin here. It's not like they come around often. >>
No, they come around all the time, it's just not everyday that someone spends the money to get one slabbed.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
This is my favorite thread of the week, so far.
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I have seen a lot of coins more confusing in slabs. Like commen dat Barber dimes in good???????
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Would the OP please come back and tells us why he had it slabbed?
I have slabbed dimes paying both grading and attribution fees that were not worth that much.
<< <i>Greg, I don't think he wants to sell it.
Would the OP please come back and tells us why he had it slabbed? >>
He said why on the first page of the thread - because of the strike doubling. He even asked if he should have ponied up for the variety plus service. He also posted on a different thread asking if PCGS would attribute it as a new variety, though I don't expect you to have seen that. Basically, he made an installment payment on his numismatic tuition.
Also, there are only seven varieties of 1982 cents, the 1982-D small date was not struck in copper.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Now, are you saying that there is some type of doubling on the coin?
I couldn't see any on the PCGS pic, but it is small and might not be seen.
My main goal is to get an example of each varity from 1982, 1972, and 1955 It's not about the value of the coins. Its all about collecting and passing these sets on to someone in the future so they have a unique piece of american history. from different years. I asked about this coin because I have never seen one with this type of damage doublig etc. on both sides. ( If someone has a pitcure of lincoln cent with odd lettering all the way around on both sides please post a pitcure that would be greatly apprecaited )
The reason I asked if I should have submitted it under the variaty submission was after reading about different varaties ( here ) I didn't know if pcgs would contact you if your coin was a new varity or not.
I apprecatite everyones feed back.
All in all It's still a cool coin :-)
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I apprecatite everyones feed back.
All in all It's still a cool coin :-)
Im supprised they didn't contact you,before grading it
<< <i>I have never heard the term machine damage to describe a kind of doubling has anyone else? >>
Thats a negative. Two different things, as everyone knows.
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