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Found this at the pawn shop.

I found this at the pawn shop down the street. Common silver dollar, but I picked it up cause it had pretty color and was in a different looking holder.
Anyone know the story on these holders?

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do a search for "doily"
    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Thanks for the tip, I will take a look.
  • image
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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    This kind of holder garners a premium.

    Congrats! image
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does he have any more?
    Many happy BST transactions
  • MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    I don't know how much you paid the pawn guy,
    but I'm willing to bet you'll make a profit on it if
    you decide to sell it.

    image

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    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice find!
  • I read some threads over these holders.

    They are an older holder style from the 80's (?).

    Looks like Morgans are commonly found in them and carry a small premium. Other coins are more rarely found and carry a larger premium.

    Am I on the right track?

    I got this for $65.00. Didn't see any others. I sometimes go by pawn shops around here and browse

    as there is a major lack of collector coin shops in KC.
  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't take the first offer...you'll make a nice profit on that one. image
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Borg-

    Congrats on a neat find ... one that would be the envy of many folks on the Board. If you choose to sell it ... do your homework as they can command a nice premium. Well done!
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    Just checked Condors slab book and this slab is know as PCGS3. Issued sometime before 1995.
  • Thanks for the tips guys. I feel bad for talking the guy down now as he had it marked $80. I don't think he knew it was any different than other holders.

    I will have to do some research on ebay and see if it is worth selling with fees and all.
  • I think you'll double your money, at least ... just for the holder.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you ever see sharks swarm?
    Put 'doily' in your thread title and sit back.



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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you ever see sharks swarm?
    Put 'doily' in your thread title and sit back. >>

    imageThe posts look more like ones coming from Nurse Sharks ... I bet the Great Whites are sending PMs!

    There are enough posting warning of a higher value that I think the sharks will be repelled.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the tips guys. I feel bad for talking the guy down now as he had it marked $80. I don't think he knew it was any different than other holders.

    I will have to do some research on ebay and see if it is worth selling with fees and all. >>


    Forget the hassle and fees of ebay. Put it on the BST and watch it go in a hurry for top dollar.

    (Disclaimer - I'm not a buyer.)

    Edit: image
  • Thanks for the welcome Swampboy.

    I already have a nicer 1884O, but it does have some nice color so I might hold onto it.

    Maybe I will start collecting doilys.
  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i had a little luck at a pawn shop recently myself. Picked this up for a big $5.


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  • A lot more than $5 worth of labor went into making that!!

    Nice find!!
  • Do any of you other guys regularly look for and find nice coins in pawn shops?

    It seems like there is little chance of finding nice things there. However, I guess there is also the chance that
    the shop owners have something nice and don't really know it.
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a sweet Morgan and holder. Great price too. Also a nice Perace Dollar cut-out. I stop into pawn shops once in a while when I'm traveling around. Never have seen any good deals, just prices on coins that are rediculously high sometimes.
  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I kinda envy your find, as my experience with pawn shops and coins is one of utter disappointment. I do however have a couple of real nice power tools I got at pawn shops for a steal image
  • Well, the pawn shop near me does have a lot of numismatic items and some supplies, so it may not be your typical pawn shop.

    The quality, however, sucks. Mostly just raw problems coin priced at full retail. Anything perceived to be special (CC morgan) is a bit overvalued.

    Guess I caught them on a good day. image
  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ive had very good luck at pawn shops. I can almost always get pms for spot or just over. they usually dont specialize in coins and yes sometimes dont understand exactly what they have. there is one impaticular that i stop into and almost always walk out with something.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    you have great luck! Doilies are in great demand......now try and find a NGC black slab!
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  • Thanks. I will check the pawn shop for that one too!
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe I will start collecting doilys. >>

    )

    Good luck!!! There aren't a whole lot left to be found (unless you want to pay MOOON money..like Apollo lunar landing moon money). Besides, there are more than just a few here that hunt these things like a starving dog looking for that rib-eye someone's got grilling, that they can smell!!!

    Nice find, especially for a pawn shop !
    I'll come up with something.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the welcome Swampboy.

    I already have a nicer 1884O, but it does have some nice color so I might hold onto it.

    Maybe I will start collecting doilys. >>



    Can you post a better pic? That appears to be missing the outer ring from what I can tell and will reduce the value accordingly.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • I took the pic with my iphone. I cropped off the bottom rim slightly. I didn't post it here to sell it, only to show what I had found.
    Not sure how my pic will reduce the value accordingly as you state.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I took the pic with my iphone. I cropped off the bottom rim slightly. I didn't post it here to sell it, only to show what I had found.
    Not sure how my pic will reduce the value accordingly as you state. >>



    The real doilies have an outer ring around them leading to the oft used term double holder. It's like the the old rattlers with a ring added which makes it look more like the current holders. From the top of your pic the ring appears to be missing. Compare yours to the pics in the "doily census" thread. In the early days, dealers frequently removed the outer ring so that they'd fit into the rattler boxes.

    sans outer ring

    image

    with outer ring

    image
    theknowitalltroll;
  • Oh, gotcha. Thanks for the education. Yeah the outer rim is all there, just cropped it out trying to zoom on the coin.

    Did they somehow cut or file it off ??.... seems like a lot of work.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They can be broken off fairly easily.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oh, gotcha. Thanks for the education. Yeah the outer rim is all there, just cropped it out trying to zoom on the coin.

    Did they somehow cut or file it off ??.... seems like a lot of work. >>


    The outer rim is very fragile.
  • Thanks for the advice. I will be careful with handling it.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would expect your private message box to soon be overflowing with offers...image There are several ardent doily collectors here. Nice find. Cheers, RickO
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks for the advice. I will be careful with handling it. >>



    Would still be nice to see a pic of the whole slab and the reverse. It still looks to me from the top right of the pic that the outer ring is missing. You can see a bit o daylight at the edge which shouldn't be there if the ring is present.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, the pawn shop near me does have a lot of numismatic items and some supplies, so it may not be your typical pawn shop.

    The quality, however, sucks. Mostly just raw problems coin priced at full retail. Anything perceived to be special (CC morgan) is a bit overvalued.

    Guess I caught them on a good day. image >>



    There are people who go around on a regular basis and check out the pawn shops for newps. Same for those antique malls like the Brass Armadillo in Des Moines, Omaha and a couple of other places. It's likely pure dumb luck that you were able to snag that. Same for these little hometown auctions; there are usually 1 or 2 people there who know what stuff is worth.
    theknowitalltroll;
  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would love to see a full shot as well.

    I will double your money and offer you $130. Think about it and PM me.
  • Bajjerfan- Thanks for the replies. It does have the outer rim. I will post pics when I get a chance.

    Jersey- Thanks for the offer. If I choose to sell it you will see it on the BST.
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You cherrypicked a pawn shop very cool, Nice pick up.... image


    Hoard the keys.


  • << <i>i had a little luck at a pawn shop recently myself. Picked this up for a big $5.


    image >>



    Not a single scratch on the fields!
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    image >>



    image
    theknowitalltroll;
  • I think the group is curious to know at this point how many PMs have you received thus far image. No need to divulge names, prices, etc., but I bet a lot of us here are betting you've received PM's from at least a couple dozen people by now imageimage

    Congrats on the score by the way image
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pretty sweet pawn shop find... I'm guessing you'll double your money on that one if you want to sell.

    I stop in a few pawn shops every now and then, but rarely find anything interesting. However, while visiting my folks this Christmas, I stopped in a local pawn shop and saw the following set in a very beat up plastic holder...

    image
    image

    But even in that beat up holder and in the bottom of the display case, I could tell the coins were nicely toned and I had to take a closer look. Shockingly, when I asked the price I was actually quoted a very fair price, barely above the silver melt value of the coins. After a closer look, the coins were beautifully toned on both sides. Unfortunately, the Peso appears to have been cleaned (probably when it was first put into the cardboard holder many years ago) as there are various lightly hairlines across MacArthur's face and in the fields when tilted just right. The 50 centavos appears to be problem free. In any event, I'm glad I was able to find something in the shop, especially something this cool and relatively inexpensive.

    After opening the case I attempted to get better pics of the coins as follows, but it wasn't easy to get the color to show well without completely washing out the coin with too much light...

    50 Centavos
    imageimage

    One Peso
    imageimage
  • Only a couple. Perhaps those who like these already have several.
  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pretty sweet pawn shop find... I'm guessing you'll double your money on that one if you want to sell.

    I stop in a few pawn shops every now and then, but rarely find anything interesting. However, while visiting my folks this Christmas, I stopped in a local pawn shop and saw the following set in a very beat up plastic holder...

    image
    image

    But even in that beat up holder and in the bottom of the display case, I could tell the coins were nicely toned and I had to take a closer look. Shockingly, when I asked the price I was actually quoted a very fair price, barely above the silver melt value of the coins. After a closer look, the coins were beautifully toned on both sides. Unfortunately, the Peso appears to have been cleaned (probably when it was first put into the cardboard holder many years ago) as there are various lightly hairlines across MacArthur's face and in the fields when tilted just right. The 50 centavos appears to be problem free. In any event, I'm glad I was able to find something in the shop, especially something this cool and relatively inexpensive.

    After opening the case I attempted to get better pics of the coins as follows, but it wasn't easy to get the color to show well without completely washing out the coin with too much light...

    50 Centavos
    imageimage

    One Peso
    imageimage >>



    That's a great pick up, I love those post WWII commems from the Islands.
  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK . . .

    You've trolled enough to get a reply. I will deign to give you one . . .

    No. No. Definitely no. I have not PM'd. I really hope dozens have. It'll bode well for the Doily Market.

    I have 6 1884-O Doilies already . . . from MS64 to MS65. Another . . . . .??? The point? Well, let's let someone send a PM for the right amount. This one should sell for about $170. Just IMHO. Nice Pawn shop acquisition. Wish it would have been me!

    Drunner
    (Doily Slut)
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is the O mintmark filled on your Doily Dollar? Looks to me like it is in the picture.
  • The o was filled in on that 1884 o.. Is that a variety?

    I found another doily today at a coin shop.

    Pics here:
    http://s1165.photobucket.com/albums/q595/jnborger/

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