Seller Won't Combine Shipping?
Sethro
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I won three 1978 PSA 9 commons tonight for my set. I got the three of them for a total of $3.54. The seller sends me an invoice with $10.50 for shipping, stating he will not combine shipping. $10.50 for three slabs? I am guessing he's upset that he sold three cards for about a buck a piece, but how in the world is $10.50 not excessive? Do I have any recourse?
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If he did not mention it in the listing and you did not inquire before bidding you really have little to gripe about.
I think it is pathetic but these matters need to be settled before bidding.
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<< <i>pay for them separately and instruct him that you expect them to be shipped separately. >>
THIS!!!
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<< <i>pay for them separately and instruct him that you expect them to be shipped separately. >>
THIS!!! >>
Sent him a message asking him why he would not combine shipping and send these three cards in separate padded envelopes when he could just put all three cards in one envelope and save us both money. I am sure that's gonna work.
<< <i>Wouldn't be eBay seller: hemachal, would it? Been there, done that and they shipped slower than slow, too. Will not bid again with that seller. >>
It sure is!
<< <i>Don't worry... They'll all come in one package. Even if you pay separately, they'll ship them together. Bank on it! >>
I figured that, which is why I am not sure what I am going to do at this point. I am going to wait on his reply and if there is no compromise I will call eBay and see what they say.
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<< <i>Don't worry... They'll all come in one package. Even if you pay separately, they'll ship them together. Bank on it! >>
I figured that, which is why I am not sure what I am going to do at this point. I am going to wait on his reply and if there is no compromise I will call eBay and see what they say. >>
Leave negative feedback if you feel it is warranted for combining the cards in one package.
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<< <i>Don't worry... They'll all come in one package. Even if you pay separately, they'll ship them together. Bank on it! >>
I figured that, which is why I am not sure what I am going to do at this point. I am going to wait on his reply and if there is no compromise I will call eBay and see what they say. >>
Ebay is not going to force a seller to combine on shipping. You are barking up nthe wrong tree. "Excessive shipping charges" does not apply here because you are being charged just $3.50 per individual transaction......which is not excessive. You can certainly ask the seller to mail 3 individual items, and if he puts all 3 in one package, you would be correct in both dinging his stars as well as possibly a neutral feedback for a misleading shipping practice. In fact, if you asked for combined shipping, and he declined....and then you requested that all 3 items be shipped seperately, and he puts them in 1 package, you might even consider banging him with a neg for failing to meet his obligations as described. Depending on my mood, this might be the action I would take. You will likely be blocked from future auctions, but who wants to buy from an idiot like this anyway. Plus he will think twice the next time someone asks for a combined ship break.
If paying 14.00 is too much for the 3 cards then simply don't pay.
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Again, my question is: when does it become excessive. $10.50 for something that costs $3.00 does not seem reasonable at all.
<< <i>In his payment section of the auction it states. Sorry No Combined Shipping.. >>
This is absolutely correct.....which is why if the seller ships all 3 cards in seperate packages, the buyer has no real gripe. But if the seller puts all 3 in one package, thats a neg in my eyes.
<< <i>In his payment section of the auction it states. Sorry No Combined Shipping.. >>
That should be in the shipping section, not the payment section.
I 'd have no problem paying 5.00 each for those 3 cards
if I needed them.
Hope that helps Seth.
Don't sweat it, it really isn't that big of an issue (if you really need these cards)
Take care
all you can do is chose not to do business with them...
dont complete the transactions if you feel so compelled...
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There's also no requirement that you pay for them all at the same time.
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<< <i>You can make him ship as separate packages if you can have them go to different addresses.
There's also no requirement that you pay for them all at the same time.
Nick >>
I like this idea. That's probably what I will do, pay for one at a time. Wait for tracking, then pay for the next. I think that's totally fair.
Anyway, thank you all for you ideas and thoughts and letting me vent it out. It is greatly appreciated!
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<< <i>I like this idea. That's probably what I will do, pay for one at a time. Wait for tracking, then pay for the next. I think that's totally fair. >>
ummm, what if he don't need no %$&*^% tracking?
This has the makings of a great thread.
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ummm, what if he don't need no %$&*^% tracking?
This has the makings of a great thread. >>
Then I'll wait for it to arrive before I pay for the next one.
Although ThoseBackPages' comment made me laugh, I do not intend to defraud anyone. I am giving the seller a chance to be honest and do the right thing, which is use the shipping charges to cover shipping.
<< <i>This shipping nonsense has got to stop ... sellers can and should play with the pricing of their items as they choose ... but trying to manufacture profits by playing with shipping is just silly and IMO is a bad way to do business. >>
That's exactly right. Technically the problem is not that he didn't combine shipping. If he charged 2 bucks for shipping and didn't combine, no big deal. Six bucks seems reasonable to me. But this is a case of manufacturing profits and it's just wrong.
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PACKAGES ARE PREPACKAGED AT ANOTHER LOCATION (WAREHOUSE). YOU WILL RECEIVE 3 PADDED ENVELOPES WITH TRACKING.
THANKS SHP
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<< <i>This was his reply. In what world does this make sense?
PACKAGES ARE PREPACKAGED AT ANOTHER LOCATION (WAREHOUSE). YOU WILL RECEIVE 3 PADDED ENVELOPES WITH TRACKING.
THANKS SHP
- hemachal >>
Well this makes it pretty simple then. You either pay for them with the listed shipping fees, they come in individual padded envelopes and you leave him positive feedback since you agreed to the terms or they come in 1 padded envelope and you then claim SNAD and that you only received one of the cards and you neg him and give him all 1 stars. The ball is in his court.
<< <i>This was his reply. In what world does this make sense?
PACKAGES ARE PREPACKAGED AT ANOTHER LOCATION (WAREHOUSE). YOU WILL RECEIVE 3 PADDED ENVELOPES WITH TRACKING.
THANKS SHP
- hemachal >>
If you receive 3 padded envelopes each with seperate shipping costs, then you really have no gripe, or reason to either ding stars or leave bad feedback. It was stated in the listing that there was no combined shipping. You agreed to this by bidding on his product. Only if he sends in 1 package do you have a gripe....otherwise, be a bit more careful in understanding someone's policy BEFORE placing a bid.
<< <i>I'm not defending the seller . . . trust me, I had a bad experience with them, too. But, they've done nothing wrong. Obviously, they could do the "right" thing and combine shipping, but they've already stated that they do not. In my case, I just chose not to leave them ANY feedback as I felt it would've been vindictive to have done so and smashed them since I asked about combining shipping AFTER I won the items and I didn't have a leg to stand on. >>
I don't know, I feel they have done something wrong. First, they did not state in the shipping section that they don't combine shipping, it was in the payment section. Why would I look in the payment section for shipping information? I know I pay with Paypal, so there's no need to check if they accept my form of payment. And after hundreds of combined shipping transactions without a hitch, it just seems that something doesn't smell right. Second, well, I don't want to turn this into a philosophical thing, so let's just leave it at that.
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If you receive 3 padded envelopes each with seperate shipping costs, then you really have no gripe, or reason to either ding stars or leave bad feedback. It was stated in the listing that there was no combined shipping. You agreed to this by bidding on his product. Only if he sends in 1 package do you have a gripe....otherwise, be a bit more careful in understanding someone's policy BEFORE placing a bid. >>
Again, not stated in the shipping section. I will ask for one at a time. Let's see what he says.
Edited for update: Replied telling him that I will pay for the first card when I hear back from him. When he posts the tracking number and I see it has actually been shipped I will pay for the next card. Repeat for the third card. Hoping he just says OK and then this is done.
<< <i>This is where I retire to the sidelines. >>
This is where the OP is seriously making himself look bad.
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<< <i>I'm not defending the seller . . . trust me, I had a bad experience with them, too. But, they've done nothing wrong. Obviously, they could do the "right" thing and combine shipping, but they've already stated that they do not. In my case, I just chose not to leave them ANY feedback as I felt it would've been vindictive to have done so and smashed them since I asked about combining shipping AFTER I won the items and I didn't have a leg to stand on. >>
I don't know, I feel they have done something wrong. First, they did not state in the shipping section that they don't combine shipping, it was in the payment section. Why would I look in the payment section for shipping information? I know I pay with Paypal, so there's no need to check if they accept my form of payment. And after hundreds of combined shipping transactions without a hitch, it just seems that something doesn't smell right. Second, well, I don't want to turn this into a philosophical thing, so let's just leave it at that. >>
They actually did NOTHING wrong. Just because you feel they did doesn't mean that they did. I felt the same way when I was hosed, but it was because I didn't read and asked questions AFTER the auction. I was the one that was WRONG as the seller did what their auction said and what I agreed to when I bid. It was my fault, just like yours, for assuming that shipping would be combined and then being upset when it wasn't.
As I stated earlier, I was annoyed, but didn't leave ANY feedback because, while it wasn't the "right" thing for the seller to do, they really didn't do anything "wrong."
Life can suck sometimes. When things don't go as we planned, we can choose one of two options. We can accept the blame for not doing what we needed to do to make certain that things were as we expect them OR we can point a finger at someone else because we didn't do what was necessary to remove any assumed outcome that we expected in our favor.
Just because you, I and others don't agree with the seller not combining shipping, doesn't mean they are wrong. Once you get past that and accept the responsibility for not getting clarification in advance and assuming that EVERYONE will combine shipping, you'll find yourself in a happier place.
I agree with otw, and that doesn't happen too often with Yankee fans, so he must be right, LOL..
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Do not steal his cards if they come in one envelope, that is WRONG! Leave him a neg and ding his shipping charges with a one. Anyone who steals others property should be ashamed of themselves. I shouldn't have to mention that the cards have serial numbers on them that if entered in your set would prove you stole them.
The seller would be wise to rethink his position on shipping, but he did state no combined shipping, although in the wrong section.
Since it costs around $5.00 to grade a card, $1.00 for a padded envelope and the actual shipping, you still got a great deal. Yes, he is covering his a$$ with his shipping charges. One should not list anything for .99 (or less than he is willing to take for an item) in order to get bidders. Obviously backfired on him.
Buyers do not have the right to renegotiate the terms of an auction AFTER it's completed.
Mostly I buy on eBay, but lately I have had to sell some of my collection to pay bills. This has given me a different perspective on things. I always combine shipping, but rarely offer anything for .99 starting bid, unless it's a larger item and I charge more to ship. Sellers should realize by now that people don't like to pay much for shipping it it's a small item like a card.
Joe
<< <i>Buyers do not have the right to renegotiate the terms of an auction AFTER it's completed. >>
BINGO!!!
<< <i>The seller is doing something wrong, IMO, by not being flexible and adjusting to customers with very reasonable requests. >>
Its not the seller's obligation to be "flexible". The seller stated his policy, the buyer agreed to that policy by bidding. Now the buyer wants the seller to change the rules.
Although it would be NICE if the seller was "flexible" and "adjusted" to the customer's reasonable request........the fact that he is not doesnt mean he is doing anything wrong.
It would only be "wrong" if the seller charged 3 seperate shipping costs, and then mailed out the 3 items in one package. If he mails them out in 3 distinct packages, he fully upheld his exact obligations and is totally in the clear.
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<< <i>Buyers do not have the right to renegotiate the terms of an auction AFTER it's completed. >>
BINGO!!! >>
he will be doing something wrong when he ships all the cards in the same packing. When he does do this he violated his own rules since he did in fact combine shipping - and was being a big jack a@@ by not passing the savings on to his buyer. Just like crappy ebay buyers this joker gives all sellers a bad name.
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<< <i>Don't worry... They'll all come in one package. Even if you pay separately, they'll ship them together. Bank on it! >>
I figured that, which is why I am not sure what I am going to do at this point. . >>
If it were me I would post my concerns on a message board, since that always makes everything all better.
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