The Official 2012 Topps Heritage thread

magellan

Box 11:
1 buyback
8 SP
1 Ref.-D. Price
2 chromes
3 stickers
1 CC-Kemp
2 NAP
2 TN
2 BBF
2 NF

parker95

So do you think that there are 11 SSP cards so far?

Craig from Texas

magellan

So Topps bent me over.......most likely the worst case I've ever opened. The case "hits", a Black Michael Young refractor & a Musial coin redemption.
There were 9 image swaps & at least 3 color swaps.

The 40 retail packs I opened had a Black refractor & 1 of the RC errors.
Yuck

psu92

<< <i>So do you think that there are 11 SSP cards so far?

Craig from Texas >>




Craig,

I believe there are 10 SSPs:
15,29,54,113,231,341(x2),380,454,483.

parker95

Then what about card #356? I guess I am confused with this card but this is what I think. All base cards of #356 are Adrian Beltre. All color swap cards of David Ortiz are numbered #356. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you.

Craig from Texas

psu92

<< <i>Then what about card #356? I guess I am confused with this card but this is what I think. All base cards of #356 are Adrian Beltre. All color swap cards of David Ortiz are numbered #356. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you.

Craig from Texas >>



Craig,

#356 David Ortiz is considered a color swap, not a SSP.

heritage

So Topps bent me over.......most likely the worst case I've ever opened. The case "hits", a Black Michael Young refractor & a Musial coin redemption.
There were 9 image swaps & at least 3 color swaps.


no ink at all?

magellan

No ink George. I've had retail & blaster cases that looked much better than this hobby case.

Griffins

I've got jack from the first 3 boxes, have 8 more to go, hopefully there will be something in there.
Anyone have a checklist for the ad panels?

parker95

Ok, gang, thanks to your help, I have compiled a list of all image swaps, color swaps, and SSP cards in an easy format. All you have to do is sort your Heritage and follow this numerical list to see if you have any of the 60 different shortprints. If there are any errors, please let me know. Thank you!

2012 Topps Heritage Shortprint List with PICTURES!

Now I off to go find some more Heritage!

Good luck to those who haven't ripped yet -- looking forward to seeing more scans!

Craig from Texas

TNP777

Craig - what's the difference in the two Madson SSPs?

parker95

One has a white stripe in the inset photo and one has a red stripe.

Craig from Texas

TNP777

<< <i>One has a white stripe in the inset photo and one has a red stripe.

Craig from Texas >>

ah, I see them now. Thanks

magellan

Thanks Craig !

parker95

Thanks! I am about to go get some family pictures done so I will not be able to update the list on my web site right away, but it was pointed out to me that the Mike Stanton SSP is this:

On the back of the card where the stats columns are, check to see if a column is labeled with a 'W'. It's supposed to a 'R' for runs, but the error is 'W' for wins which is similar to the error that occurred in 1963 for this card number 483.

So now,the only mystery SSP left is that of #380 Carlos Pena.

Craig from Texas

psu92

Thanks Craig!

parker95

Might want to look at your card #380 for the last mystery SSP. Chances are it has to do with the stats on the back of the card. Back in 1963, #380 Ernie Banks has the back of card with minor league stats although Banks never played in minors. So please look through yours and if you have one with minor league stats, please post a picture! Thanks!

Craig from Texas

TNP777

here's the Stanton SSP picture

parker95

Thanks Geordie! Only one more to go -- #380 Carlos Pena SSP.

Craig from Texas

psu92

#380 Carlos Pena error - Back says "Complete Major and Minor League Batting Record". Should be "Complete Major League Batting Record".

NewHeritageCollector

Anyone selling the base set 1-425?

Looking to put the set together without buying boxes.

Tim

bjbrall4

I have a base set available. What price did you have in mind?

Bob

Sorry; meant to send as a PM.

bjbrall4

Thought I'd try again for trades to avoid eBay.

High numbers I need: 429, 434, 436, 460, 475, 484, 488, 490, 493, 499;
High numbers to trade: 427(2), 428(2), 432, 433(2), 435(2), 437, 440(4), 443, 444(2), 445, 448, 449, 450(2), 451, 452, 454(4)(no ssp), 456, 457(2), 458, 462, 465, 467(2), 468, 471, 472, 473, 474, 478(2), 479, 480, 482, 483(2), 486(2), 492, 494(2), 496(2).

TAN I need: TN-JM Marichal;
TAN I have to trade: KB (2), MB, YC (SIX!), KK(2), KV(4), MS(3), AB, SL.

BBFB I need: none;
BBFB to trade: AK (2), EW, EB(5), HA(5), JM(2), SK(3), SK, WM, SM(2).

NFB I need: MK
NFB to trade: A, JK(4), JKE(4), MKI, PS, PP(3), UA(2), UC(2), VT.

NAP I need: Jeter, Weaver, Bautista;
NAP to trade: Pujols(2), Lee(2), Votto, Beckett(2), Kemp, Cabrera(2), Cano, Halladay, Braun.

Stickers I need: 1, 5, 11, 13, 21, 28, 33, 35, 38, 40, 41, 43;
Stickers to trade: 14, 17, 22(2), 31, 37, 42, 45(2), 46.

Thanks for looking.

jmmiller777

Wow Craig, great job on the lists and picts!

Mick65

I agree the list is great. I think you set the precedent for future years. Especially if this is topps game plan going forward.. hard to remember the sets without the SSPs and variations.

psu92

Anybody have a checklist in Excel?

magellan

Pena never played in the minors, the error is indeed "complete minor & major league batting record"

Lee99

Hi,

I bought a couple of packs during the weekend, and like the cards very much. Probably have 100 - 125 commons and 7 - 9 SPs.

If some of you want to get rid of common duplicates for cheap, please send me an email. Also, I'd be interested in SP (426-500).

Thanks,

Lee

matthewbschultz83

Anybody have a handle on the Panel Checklist yet? Are we looking at 20 like last year? Or several more with strings of 2008-2010?

VeniVidiRitchie

I preordered my case on March 6th and haven't heard from the seller yet if he received it and/or that he has shipped it to me. He hasn't answered my email (yet) that I sent last Friday. Do I have to start worrying??

I didn't buy the case on Ebay but did pay him with my creditcard via Paypal, so I think (hope...) that I'm save incase I decide somewhere this week that I would like my money back. (Or is that too soon?) Anyone has experience with that? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck with all your breaks and greetings from the Netherlands,

Richard

Griffins

<< <i>Anybody have a handle on the Panel Checklist yet? Are we looking at 20 like last year? Or several more with strings of 2008-2010? >>



from the ones on ebay it looks like strings as it was in '08-10. No stamp panels this year (thankfully) so they've probably gone back to 88 panels or something like that.

bjbrall4

Anybody have a handle on the Panel Checklist yet? Are we looking at 20 like last year? Or several more with strings of 2008-2010? >>

I had arranged to buy the panels from brentandbecca, thinking there would be thirty, like last year. Brent sent an e-mail that he had 77 different from 192 packs and had seen several others, that he didn't have, on eBay. This means we're probably back to 88 in eleven "strings" of eight per string, but that's just a guess.

kuhlmann

long time since i been on here.. just bought 1 hobby box. and pulled the #54 ssp ..

jmmiller777

<< <i>I preordered my case on March 6th and haven't heard from the seller yet if he received it and/or that he has shipped it to me. He hasn't answered my email (yet) that I sent last Friday. Do I have to start worrying??

I didn't buy the case on Ebay but did pay him with my creditcard via Paypal, so I think (hope...) that I'm save incase I decide somewhere this week that I would like my money back. (Or is that too soon?) Anyone has experience with that? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck with all your breaks and greetings from the Netherlands,

Richard >>



Ya, me too. I ordered it from MR C.W.J. from Dewitt, NY. No email replies, nothing. I think we all know at this point...

GB5HOF

I ordered from the same seller. He answered an e-mail I sent on the release date saying he would be shipping either Thursday or Friday of last week. UPS Ground. No tracking info uploaded of course. I think its a 50/50 chance at best we get these. Update the board if you hear anything on your end...and I'll do the same.

VeniVidiRitchie

I didn't order from the seller in DeWitt and still hope my guy will send the case... He's not the best in communicating though; before I made the payment he had no problem replying three times to get the deal done, after that not a single word...

Does anyone know how 'time consuming'it is to start a complaint/money refund with paypal or should I go directly to my creditcard company?

Really hope you all get your cases.

Richard

jlzinck

Grabbed 5 packs from a fresh box. Box had a buyback topper. Tom doesn't know if he will sell or open. He will probably sell when all the hoopla dies down.

Got a Ryan Howard jerset w/ pinstripe
Mariano swap
Some Chrome card
Kennedy Flashback.

parkerj

Do you have a phone or address for the guy in Dewitt? I drive thru ther everyday to and from work. Let me know if I can help

VeniVidiRitchie

Latest comment on the Ebay feedback page of this guy in DeWitt states:

"REFUNDED MONEY, COULD NOT GUARANTEE ME A CASE?????????????????????"
Mar-17-12 09:00
2012 TOPPS HERITAGE FACTORY SEALED HOBBY CASE PRE-SELL! FREE SHIPPING! (#150741666433)"

GB5HOF

Oh yeah...I saw that.

jmmiller777

<< <i>I didn't order from the seller in DeWitt and still hope my guy will send the case... He's not the best in communicating though; before I made the payment he had no problem replying three times to get the deal done, after that not a single word...

Does anyone know how 'time consuming'it is to start a complaint/money refund with paypal or should I go directly to my creditcard company?

Really hope you all get your cases.

Richard >>



I would start the paypal process for sure, don't drop any of your options.

VeniVidiRitchie

<< <i>

I would start the paypal process for sure, don't drop any of your options. >>



Thanks jmmiller, I'm seriously considering doing that in the next 48 hours. I just sent the seller another email and want to give him a last change to 'do the right thing'.

86nova

Heritage Addicts-- A couple of days ago,I wrote that the Beltran (#300) still had the Giants listed on the card back and not the

Cardinals. Got a black refractor of Beltran today, and the back was changed to St.Louis. I would assume that the chromes and

refractors all have St. Louis on the back. No big deal, just point of interest. Craig in Ohio

TNP777

<< <i>Heritage Addicts-- A couple of days ago,I wrote that the Beltran (#300) still had the Giants listed on the card back and not the

Cardinals. Got a black refractor of Beltran today, and the back was changed to St.Louis. I would assume that the chromes and

refractors all have St. Louis on the back. No big deal, just point of interest. Craig in Ohio >>

That's sorta like the Adrian Beltre card back in '05 Heritage. Base card had the correct Mariners uniform, but the chrome had him in his old Dodgers uni.

paleocards

Hi guys,

A bit late to the party as usual, but I got pretty lucky on my 4th blaster box, as you can see below. Will be getting half a hobby case later in the week. I'll be back later to trade as usual. Enjoy Heritage season!





And here's the back of the Michael Young chrome I pulled out of the same blaster, never before have I hit the player's jersey number (#0010/1963)! May be available for trade later...

matthewbschultz83

<< <i>

<< <i>Heritage Addicts-- A couple of days ago,I wrote that the Beltran (#300) still had the Giants listed on the card back and not the

Cardinals. Got a black refractor of Beltran today, and the back was changed to St.Louis. I would assume that the chromes and

refractors all have St. Louis on the back. No big deal, just point of interest. Craig in Ohio >>

That's sorta like the Adrian Beltre card back in '05 Heritage. Base card had the correct Mariners uniform, but the chrome had him in his old Dodgers uni. >>



Same with Arod in 2001 Topps Heritage. His base card was in a Ranger uniform. All inserts, chromes, and autographs featured him as a Mariner.

ssdawg77

My newest trade list, lmk if you can help.


NEEDS:
SP’s: 496,484x2,479,474,471,469,468,465,462,461,459x2,458,451x2,450,448x2,444
437x2,436,435x2,429,428,427x2
BASE: 418,411,406,398,386,384,382,379,365,364,358,353,351,345,342,337,325,324,320
319,316,311,307,306,301,300,295,285,281,272,269,268,266,265,258,252,244,237
232,224,221,219,215,213,209,207,206,205,203,201,200,199,187,178,177,155,148
146,142,140,138,135,122,120,109,107,102,90,89,79,73,63,51,41,39,29,24,22,13,10,6,2
NAP: AP,CL,CJx2,JBECKx2,JVx2,RC,RH
BF: HA,SKO,SM
NF: PP
TN: SL
JFK: 1,2
IMAGE SWAP: 497,486,483,476,415,289,276,197,193,52
COLOR SWAP: 495,485,480,468,415,414,408,373,356,285,282,264, 215
201,177,137,115,87,85,83,20
CHROME:100,92,89,84,83,81,77,71,67,64,57,56,53,51,46,45,40,38,36,33
32,31,30,29,28,26,24,23,22,20,18,15,12,7,4,3,2,1
RED BORDER (T): 227,98
BLUE BORDER (W): 468,325,275,323,225,217,185,177,164,130,115,85,84,76,34,14
STICKER 3: 41,38,36,33,32x2,28x2,27x2,24,22x2,14,9,5,4

Also interested in SSP's.

Here is what I have for trade.


Blue Auto: DeLock, Stone, Landrith
BLACK REFRACTOR: 54 Felix Hernandez
JFK Stamp:2 21/63
Refractor: 4,9,11,12,15,19,18,26,41,47,48,56,60,63,67,71,75,79,86
CHROME: 6,10,21,25,30,30,34,39,41,42,43,47,49,54,55,58,59,60,63,63,66
69,72,72,78,79,82,82,86,87,87,91,91,94,97,98,99
Image Swap: 44,183,183,246,279348,453,468,468,481,489,489
CC Relic: NS,AC,MCB,AJ,THU,MG,PK,CGO,JRO,JRO,CL,CH,CC,CC,MH,JG
JU,DHU,IK,EL,DPR,JE,NC,AB,MS,NM,YG,MB,PF
RED: 32,32,174,186,276,279,445
BLUE: 296
SP’S: 426,430,430,431,431,431,432,438,439,439,439,441,443,447,447,453
453,453,455,455,460,460,463,463,463,464,466,467,470,472,476,476,480,480
480,485,485,485,485,485,486,487,488,488,489,490,491,491,491,493,495,495
497,498,498,498
NAP: MC,MC,MC,MC,MC,MC,MK,JW,JW,RB,VM,VM,VM
BF: AK,AK,AK,AK,JM,WMC,WM,WM,WM,WM
NF: MK,MK,UA,UA,UA,UA,JK,UC,UC,UC,PS,JKE,VT,VT,VT,VT,VT
TN: AK,KV,KV,MS,MS,MS,YC,YC,KK,KK,KK,MV

PM if you can help.

Thanks

zep33

<< <i>Hi guys,

A bit late to the party as usual, but I got pretty lucky on my 4th blaster box, as you can see below. Will be getting half a hobby case later in the week. I'll be back later to trade as usual. Enjoy Heritage season!





>>




Great pull!!

TNP777

great pull, Andy! Nice to see you check in.

paleocards

Thanks Mike & Geordie, that's the first red auto I've pulled since 2008! And a big thanks to Craig for putting together that great page of variations and SSPs!

Andy