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    DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭✭
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    SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder how many dealers are reading this thread and thinking, "Wow, the perfect customer."

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    DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,836 ✭✭✭✭
    Rittenhouse knucklebone

    In gilt silver châsse (reliquary). Very Fine condition.
    Holed for suspension in the mid-1800s; expertly repaired
    with gutta percha. Rarely seen in the marketplace.

    Firm price of US$9,750.

    Wholesalers are invited to inquire re: thighbone,
    molars, matching set of metacarpals. POR.

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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bump to see if any resolution yet....?

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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bump to see if any resolution yet....? >>



    Not yet. It is being worked. Will report back at the right time.
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Rittenhouse knucklebone

    In gilt silver châsse (reliquary). Very Fine condition.
    Holed for suspension in the mid-1800s; expertly repaired
    with gutta percha. Rarely seen in the marketplace.

    Firm price of US$9,750.

    Wholesalers are invited to inquire re: thighbone,
    molars, matching set of metacarpals. POR. >>



    Nothing like that. Though there was a human skull in the Frank Stewart collection, fashioned into a drinking cup. Tres creepy.
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    kazkaz Posts: 9,350 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Rittenhouse knucklebone

    In gilt silver châsse (reliquary). Very Fine condition.
    Holed for suspension in the mid-1800s; expertly repaired
    with gutta percha. Rarely seen in the marketplace.

    Firm price of US$9,750.

    Wholesalers are invited to inquire re: thighbone,
    molars, matching set of metacarpals. POR. >>



    Sounds like something on that "Oddities" show.
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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭
    I know Len to be a fair and honest man.

    I am sure his cool head will result in a happy ending.

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bump just to see if any updates....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    atarianatarian Posts: 3,116
    I feel the dealer needs to either put up or shut up on this coin. Either mail the money back to the buyer or send the coin. Like others have said if it has been a year then i would be like please send a refund for the price. ( i wouldnt bother with interest) just get my money back and have a lesson learned about the seller. I know you want the coin but at this point wouldnt you at least want your money back. At least that way your back to square 1. right now your up the creek without a coin or your money he cashed. Just saying.
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    mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    A plastic surgeon in chicagoland owed me 100K once upon a time ( you reading ? ) and he took a year to pay me which was not part of the agreement. I let it go and a year later when I was paid in full I delivered the coins.

    But your deal doesn't sound kosher at all.

    A LOT of money made in this business in recent years. There is NO LEGITIMATE REASON to be slow with money.
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    Just out of curiosity .. has the dealer been neared in this thread yet .. and what was the purchase for ?
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    scotty1419scotty1419 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭✭
    No offense to the OP, but I feel like all the advice in this thread is going unheeded.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm hoping for a happy ending and I really want to know what this elusive item is. I actually have a good feeling about this. Is Len being a little coy? MJ
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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "...Is Len being a little coy?"

    Ya think?
    If the item in question is a coin, I will be surprised.
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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I thinkimage

    I would be shocked if it's even round.

    MJ
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    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Let me get this straight, you actually believe a $100 bonus is the way to go, that it will be the motivating factor on a 4 figure coin. I am sorry to say but not only do I think your are crazy for how you let this drag out so long, but now I know your crazy when that is now your new course of action. So I am going to tell i tlike it is, that isn't a course of action, that is called wimping out. >>



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    If I'm this dealer, I'd have rolled your four figures into five by now. If you still can, you should get a voice recording and threaten to sue him for your money back plus loss of opportunity cost. >>



    I won't wait any longer. I'd sue the guy. If you have got a really good case, he should settle. If he doesn't all of us should know who he is.
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    OldEastsideOldEastside Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, this is the best soap opera I've seen in a long time, your
    hesitance to right things makes me believe the would be seller
    knows where the bodys are buried and that the item in question
    has definate dna evidence on it to convict for a 1000 years.

    Oh well keep it going, I'll stay tuned.

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jus' a little "bump" to see if things are resolved yet....

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got a SDB to drill open for a bag of untouched Morgans.... I swear...


    pointless thread without the rest of the story.
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    << <i>Coinosaurus---Was this coin a Bridgeport, CT commem half dollar that he promissed you? >>



    P.T.B. Funny reference.

    This thread has also captured my attention. I forgot about it over the last month.

    Where're we at?

    Any discussions at the ANA?
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    The Coinosaurus is far more saintly than your very own Longacre.

    I would give the dealer a date to deliver the item, and thereafter, indicate that you will be forced to speak to an outside party to advise you about your rights.
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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So who was assigned to follow him around the ANA?


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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So who was assigned to follow him around the ANA?


    Sean Reynolds >>




    I thought we voted on RYK to do it image

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    streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's hot out here. I need some fun.

    The item never existed or is gone. He owes you money. He is slower than maple syrup in January. I would not think negatively about you if you decided to play volleyball with his name and ethics. After all, he IS CIRCLING THE DRAIN.

    Hi Len, write the check please.
    Have a nice day
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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't want piss this guy off too much because I really want the thing I am trying to buy & he is the only one that has it. >>



    You're assuming he actually has the item and isn't scrambling to find one for you at a price that will net a hefty "finder's fee" profit.
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my opinion now?


    this thread has been a total waste of time.


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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, did you get your coin or your money back?image

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    Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Who am i to caste stones, I have had my share of dumb postsover the years, how do you think I go to 10,000image >>



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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>my opinion now?


    this thread has been a total waste of time. >>



    Agree. Think it should be nuked. I honestly don't understand why anyone asks for advice, receives more than an ear-full of it, and then proceeds to ignore said advice. To je govno.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,545 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Posting rules updated 2/12/11...Updated by Mista Willis again on 8/22/11 I think!

    Rule # 11:
    If you are going to start a thread any thread you must make sure that you finsih it. And if you ask for advice you must go with the consensus and if by chance there is no clear consensus then you must follow the advice of any member or members with over 10,000 posts.......is that clear, otherwise your post will be a complete waste of time for all of us.image >>



    I've seen a lot of threads asking for advice and this thread is not only one of the longest such threads, it's almost totally unanimous in the advice given. I get the feeling the OP is ignoring us. Perhaps he's embarrassed to find himself in this situation.


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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm on top of it & will report back when the time is right. Very much on the radar screen.
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    CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭✭✭
    [9/19/2011] Update is in OP.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,545 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm disappointed I didn't get my tschoschke..... >>



    What's a tschoschke?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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    What sort of

    << <i>Tchotchke >>

    was it? And who was the dealer? and what did the dealer say? I want a little more juice and dirt in this 7 page long thread!
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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    who was the dealer? I'm sure perhaps some members here may know the dealer and a quick phone call and the voila all of a sudden your coin is found lol.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>[9/19/11] Update - I have been made the whole, got the money back from the dealer. He still "can't find" the item. I'm disappointed I didn't get my tschoschke but I think there is a lesson here - there is enough cool stuff out there that you shouldn't get obsessed with a single item to the point of making unwise business decisions. >>



    Sounds like you got the money you had given him back. That is great! I wouldn't call it "made whole" though, as he had 4 figures, as you mentioned, for a year. "Made whole" would have been him making up for that in some way above and beyond the original amount you had given him.

    And to not "find" the item, he is either very disorganized or dishonest. I can't imagine too many reputable dealers that would misplace/lose/forget an item worth 4 figures.

    At the end of the day, I am glad you got your money back at the very least!

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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