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The beginning of the end for incadescents..."Traditional incandescent bulbs on their way out st
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Just 100W for now...but the rest will follow...
"Traditional incandescent bulbs on their way out starting Jan. 1"
Grading might get a bit more interesting/creative!
"Traditional incandescent bulbs on their way out starting Jan. 1"
Grading might get a bit more interesting/creative!
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>I thought professional graders used Halogen lights. >>
I thought halogens were waaay to harsh to grade by.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>Those old bulbs basically produce more heat than light. Very inefficient. . >>
So if you are currently heating your home, would there be no inefficiency? Food for thought.
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<< <i>The mini flourescents contain mercury. As of now, there still is no official recycling effort to prevent them from ending up poisoning landfills for years to come. The recycling costs should be included in the purchase price instead of dumping those costs on taxpayers years after the profits have been booked. Though the mercury released is a small percentage when compared to the mercury released from coal fired power plants, that is not an excuse to not deal with the problem. >>
LEDs will address the mercury problem in CFLs. From the article:
<< <i>"The long-term solution will be LEDs," predicts Home Depot's Paulsen, noting they're mercury-free and last up to 25 times as long as traditional incandescents. Paulsen says LED prices are falling fast. >>
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<< <i>I thought professional graders used Halogen lights. >>
I HATE Halogen lights. They are too darn bright for me.
Over the years I've not fooled very often, so I can live without Halogen lights.
It's it a shame that the government finds it necessary to dictate to people what they should buy when it not harmful like drugs or other bad stuff? I've got no use for "BIG BROTHER."
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<< <i>The mini flourescents contain mercury. As of now, there still is no official recycling effort to prevent them from ending up poisoning landfills for years to come. The recycling costs should be included in the purchase price instead of dumping those costs on taxpayers years after the profits have been booked. Though the mercury released is a small percentage when compared to the mercury released from coal fired power plants, that is not an excuse to not deal with the problem. >>
LEDs will address the mercury problem in CFLs. From the article:
<< <i>"The long-term solution will be LEDs," predicts Home Depot's Paulsen, noting they're mercury-free and last up to 25 times as long as traditional incandescents. Paulsen says LED prices are falling fast. >>
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Does this then mean by "In the long term" that currently or previously there is/was a problem ? In short , that problem exists ? I remember when the CFL's were introduced and the advice if one got broke was close to Hazmat work.
Lighting at our house isnt under my jurisdiction, she wants the old kind and she gets what she wants , one of the many keys to a happy home : )
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<< <i>The mini flourescents contain mercury. As of now, there still is no official recycling effort to prevent them from ending up poisoning landfills for years to come. The recycling costs should be included in the purchase price instead of dumping those costs on taxpayers years after the profits have been booked. Though the mercury released is a small percentage when compared to the mercury released from coal fired power plants, that is not an excuse to not deal with the problem. >>
LEDs will address the mercury problem in CFLs. From the article:
<< <i>"The long-term solution will be LEDs," predicts Home Depot's Paulsen, noting they're mercury-free and last up to 25 times as long as traditional incandescents. Paulsen says LED prices are falling fast. >>
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Does this then mean by "In the long term" that currently or previously there is/was a problem ? In short , that problem exists ? I remember when the CFL's were introduced and the advice if one got broke was close to Hazmat work.
Lighting at our house isnt under my jurisdiction, she wants the old kind and she gets what she wants , one of the many keys to a happy home : ) >>
Nowhere close to Hazmat. There are people that wish to squash the move to CFL's and use scare tactics in order to blow it out of proportion. The amount of mercury is miniscule. If you think breaking one of those is bad, how about breaking one of the traditional thermometers!
I have enough to last me for the rest of my life so I am not concerned.
...i recently read that these new swirl bulbs can and do create health problems just from the thing being on!
GE, they bring good things to.............................
<< <i>Special handling instructions for breakage are currently not printed on the packaging of household CFL bulbs in many countries. The amount of mercury released by one bulb can temporarily exceed U.S. federal guidelines for chronic exposure.[55][56] Chronic however, implies that the exposure continues constantly over a long period of time and the Maine DEP study noted that it remains unclear what the health risks are from short-term exposure to low levels of elemental mercury. The Maine DEP study also confirmed that, despite following EPA best-practice cleanup guidelines on broken CFLs, researchers were unable to remove mercury from carpet, and agitation of the carpet — such as by young children playing — created localized concentrations as high as 25,000 ng/m3 in air close to the carpet, even weeks after the initial breakage. Conventional tubular fluorescent lamps have been in commercial and domestic use since the 1930s with little public concern about their handling; these and other domestic products, such as the mercury-in-glass thermometer — now banned by many countries for medical use — contain far more mercury than modern CFLs.[57] >>
1.Before cleanup
*Have people and pets leave the room.
*Air out the room for 5-10 minutes by opening a window or door to the outdoor environment.
*Shut off the central forced air heating/air-conditioning system, if you have one.
*Collect materials needed to clean up broken bulb.
2.During cleanup
*Be thorough in collecting broken glass and visible powder.
*Place cleanup materials in a sealable container.
3.After cleanup
*Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of properly. Avoid leaving any bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors.
*If practical, continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the heating/air conditioning system shut off for several hours.
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I'm stocking up on these wonderful Edison incadescent creations!
I can't seem to get a CFl to last more than two or three months. Definitely not worth the money to me.
<< <i>I have a few LED's in lieu of halogens. Boy, they can be brutally expensive though! And, they're just LED's!!! >>
Yeah, but they last close to forever.
On another note, I read somewhere that incandescents will still be available from Canada. So besides buying your pharmaceuticals there, you can add light bulbs to the list.
Only one, but the light bulb has to want to change.
<< <i>FWIW, a lightening strike on my parents farmhouse three weeks ago resulted in the curly-cue bulbs exploding, literally, the incandescent bulbs still work... >>
That's irrelevant. Somebody has already decided for you what kind of light bulbs you will be allowed to use. I'm sure those doing the deciding are really smart people, so it's probably okay.
You know, clean water. Trivial stuff like that.
<< <i>From the dangerously powerful EPA.....always looking out for us citizens!!!!
You know, clean water. Trivial stuff like that. >>
This photo gives me vertigo.
Quick , call OSHA !
They produce a subdued, bright and even light that works great for coin grading.
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<< <i>can I still use my kerosene lamps? >>
Another fours years of this in 2012 we might be glad of those , id be keepin'em
Iam not only keeping them but buy a few more every week. I don't care what they say.
I hate those curly fluorescent bulbs and hate having these things foisted on me by the government even more ! ! !
HH
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<< <i>Iam not only keeping them but buy a few more every week. I don't care what they say. >>
they want to put outlets in your house to monitor and regulate your usage.
those LED`s are a lil pricy. i think i`ll hold off on them.
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>The mini flourescents contain mercury. As of now, there still is no official recycling effort to prevent them from ending up poisoning landfills for years to come. The recycling costs should be included in the purchase price instead of dumping those costs on taxpayers years after the profits have been booked. Though the mercury released is a small percentage when compared to the mercury released from coal fired power plants, that is not an excuse to not deal with the problem. >>
LEDs will address the mercury problem in CFLs. From the article:
<< <i>"The long-term solution will be LEDs," predicts Home Depot's Paulsen, noting they're mercury-free and last up to 25 times as long as traditional incandescents. Paulsen says LED prices are falling fast. >>
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Does this then mean by "In the long term" that currently or previously there is/was a problem ? In short , that problem exists ? I remember when the CFL's were introduced and the advice if one got broke was close to Hazmat work.
Lighting at our house isnt under my jurisdiction, she wants the old kind and she gets what she wants , one of the many keys to a happy home : ) >>
Nowhere close to Hazmat. There are people that wish to squash the move to CFL's and use scare tactics in order to blow it out of proportion. The amount of mercury is miniscule. If you think breaking one of those is bad, how about breaking one of the traditional thermometers! >>
READ the freakin instructions on what you have to do if one of those cork-screwed POS with mercury in them breaks in your house. Immediately, you must establish cross ventilation in your house for 15 minutes minimum. You're instructed to leave the room that the broken light is in as well as your house until sufficient cross-ventilation is accomplished (pick up those kids and pets!). Then, you have to glove and mask up to pick up remnants and place them in sealed containers for disposal. These are the MINIMAL safety requirements.
These lights being mandated rank right up there with 1099's for coin sales in terms of government interfering in our lives. Only in this case, government actually jeopardizes our lives.
i'm buying and stockpiling the old lights by the gross.
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<< <i>All I know is I'm stocking up on incandescents. Hopefully a lifetime supply plus maybe some for the future black market.
I hate those curly fluorescent bulbs and hate having these things foisted on me by the government even more ! ! !
HH >>
Those curly things do not fit in my overhead lights at all. What am I supposed to do change the light fixtures as well. That's stupid, my light
bulbs have been up there for 10 years without being changed and when they do have to be changed it will be with the old style bulbs for sure.
when all you people start to realize how stupid an idea this is I might be able to sell you a bulb or two at a slightly higher price when you cant
get any thanks to government red tape. I am sick and tired of progressives telling me what to do. It started in the 60's with seat belts.
<< <i>I have been stocking up on incandescents.
I can't seem to get a CFl to last more than two or three months. Definitely not worth the money to me. >>
...i'm not surprised since they're made in china.
...i remember reading in the ANA grading book, i believe, that coins should be graded by the light of the incandescent
light bulb. SO THERE!
<< <i>...i remember reading in the ANA grading book, i believe, that coins should be graded by the light of the incandescent
light bulb. SO THERE!
I've talked to many of the people that wrote that book.
Ken pointed out that it was written before many of the new types of light bulbs out there existed and that some of the ones that are out now are "just as good" as incandescent.
Personally, I don't think that CFL is any good for grading coins.
I do like LED though, you guys should try it, you may like it better.
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