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<< <i>I've been very happy with the LEDs I've installed in my house. I purchased them at Home Depot and the label is EcoSmart. Doing a little more research, I have found out that they are made by a company of out Florida. Not China! go USA! >>
Yeah, I don't think so. 99% of the LED's are made in Shenzhen. Did the boxes you bought them in say "Made in USA" on them? The brief research I just did shows that the EcoSmart LED's look just like the ones I have purchased in downtown Shenzhen, locally made. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm 99% sure that all the "affordable" LED bulbs on the market are of Chinese manufacture.
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To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
I completely disagree with that. I've replaced 60W incadescents with 13W CFL's and they produce great white light. The 13W LED's are totally kick ass and 3 of them use less power then a single halogen and the LED produces a very, very bright pure white light.
In fact, the vanity CFL's we used to replace the normal ones were surprisingly more than adequate and use a hell of a lot less power. My wife was very pleasantly surprised and they came in convenient, inexpensive 3-packs at Sam's Club.
■I have read that CFLs contain mercury. Is that correct?
•Yes, all CFLs contain a very small amount of mercury, typically about 5 mg, which is 1/6000th of an ounce (mass). If all the mercury were concentrated in one droplet, that droplet would have a diameter of only 1.1 mm, which is 0.042 inches. Typical mercury-based fever thermometers contain 0.5 to 3 grams of mercury, which is 100 to 600 times as much mercury as a CFL that has 5 mg of mercury. Data on the mercury content of fever thermometers comes from: Mercury and the Environment - Sources of Mercury - Mercury Containing Products, a web site maintained by the Canadian government.
■Doesn't disposal of mercury-based products harm the environment?
•Yes, mercury is classified as a hazardous material by the US Environmental Protection Agency and CFLs should be recycled instead of being thrown out with the normal trash. However, in many cases use of CFLs will offset mercury that would otherwise be introduced into the environment from other sources. For example, coal contains mercury and this mercury is released into the environment when coal is burned to produce electricity. If the electricity used to operate your lamps is generated from coal, and you operate 100-watt incandescent lamps for 10,000 hours, the power generating plant will release between 40 mg and 70 mg of mercury into the environment, depending upon the type of coal being used. If instead of the 100-watt incandescent lamp, you use a 25-watt CFL, the power plant mercury emissions drop to between 10 and 18 mg over the same 10,000 hour period, again depending upon the type of coal used. Even when the 5 mg of mercury in the CFL is added to the environment at the end of the lamp's 10,000 hours life, the total mercury from using the CFL is far less than using the incandescent lamp. Mercury emissions will be lower for For lower power incandescent lamps and CFL replacements, but for any incandescent lamp of 40 watts or greater, there will be more mercury added to the environment by using an incandescent lamp than by using a CFL, assuming that the electricity used to operate both is generated by burning coal. If the electrical power used to operate your lamps comes from oil, hydro, wind, even nuclear power plants then use of a CFL will not be directly offsetting mercury released by power plants. However, by using less electrical power from your "low-mercury" or "mercury-free" generating plant, you make more of this relatively clean power available to replace power generated by coal-fired plants. And, you will save money, no matter what type of fuel is used to generate your electrical power.
Because CFLs contain mercury they should be recycled instead of thrown in the normal trash. However, even if a relatively large number of CFLs are disposed of in landfills instead of being recycled, they will not significantly increase the amount of mercury in the waste stream. A report titled Mercury Programme, published by the United Nations Environmental Programme, estimated that in 2000 there were 145 metric tons of mercury added to the solid waste stream in the United States. If 200 million CFLs, each containing 5 mg of mercury were placed in the solid waste stream in one year, they would add only 1 metric ton, or less than 0.7% of the total annual mercury load in the waste stream.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
I completely disagree with that. I've replaced 60W incadescents with 13W CFL's and they produce great white light. The 13W LED's are totally kick ass and 3 of them use less power then a single halogen and the LED produces a very, very bright pure white light.
In fact, the vanity CFL's we used to replace the normal ones were surprisingly more than adequate and use a hell of a lot less power. My wife was very pleasantly surprised and they came in convenient, inexpensive 3-packs at Sam's Club. >>
I am sick and tired of people trying to run my life. If you want to use them fine but I am not going to. I am not about to change all my overhead
lights just because other people decide I should. If it costs me an extra dollar or two a month, so be it.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W. >>
I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that cfl's give as good a light as the old style bulb.They may give off this or that in lumens but they still do not supply a decent light.People use cfl's for growing plants indoors,a cheap grow lamp,it's a different kind of light alltogether.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W. >>
I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that cfl's give as good a light as the old style bulb.They may give off this or that in lumens but they still do not supply a decent light.People use cfl's for growing plants indoors,a cheap grow lamp,it's a different kind of light alltogether. >>
I agree! Try and read a book without a 150 watt curly cue bulb!
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W. >>
I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that cfl's give as good a light as the old style bulb.They may give off this or that in lumens but they still do not supply a decent light.People use cfl's for growing plants indoors,a cheap grow lamp,it's a different kind of light alltogether. >>
I guess it depends on the color temperature of the CFL and the intended usage. The one I bought provides a soft, warm light similar in spectrum to the incandescent it replaced. The only downside is a slight (sub-second) lag in coming on and up to a minute to reach full brightness. For the purposes of bathroom lighting, I'm completely satisfied.
It does take about a minute or two to reach full brightness with the CFL bulbs, but that's a small drawback, IMO, to the significant saving I've realized in my electric bill since switching over.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
So, other than specialty bulbs, this is the end for the conventional incandescent.
How many of you have already made the move to using CFL's or LED's for grading and/or photography? How's the new type of light working for your photographs?
<< <i>From the dangerously powerful EPA.....always looking out for us citizens!!!!
1.Before cleanup *Have people and pets leave the room. *Air out the room for 5-10 minutes by opening a window or door to the outdoor environment. *Shut off the central forced air heating/air-conditioning system, if you have one. *Collect materials needed to clean up broken bulb.
2.During cleanup *Be thorough in collecting broken glass and visible powder. *Place cleanup materials in a sealable container.
3.After cleanup *Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of properly. Avoid leaving any bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors. *If practical, continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the heating/air conditioning system shut off for several hours.
<< <i>So, other than specialty bulbs, this is the end for the conventional incandescent.
How many of you have already made the move to using CFL's or LED's for grading and/or photography? How's the new type of light working for your photographs? >>
Okay, so we've heard from all the bulb hoarders and people afraid of breaking new bulbs. How about hearing from those that have successfully made the transition to the bulb replacements that the rest of the hobby will be using going forward?
<< <i>Okay, so we've heard from all the bulb hoarders and people afraid of breaking new bulbs. How about hearing from those that have successfully made the transition to the bulb replacements that the rest of the hobby will be using going forward? >>
Never was a fan of CFL's for coin photography, so I held out for LED's after my halogen goosnecks blew out.
I've been using LED gooseneck lights for my photos the past few months now. These lights seem to be more intense, but putting a sheet of tissue paper over them diffuses the light and results in better pictures. I like the fact that these lights never get hot and should last for quite a while. I really like the warm LED flood lights in our bathroom; cannot tell the difference from that and the old, very hot to the touch 75 watt bulbs that were there before.
Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water!
For what it's worth, the less nutty "rest of the world" hasn't banned the old style bulbs and they remain readily available to purchase online. Once the government finds out they might just ban the internet though.
I got rid of my incandescents in the 90's and moved to CFL. Have not made the move to LED yet as the CFL's still are working and I have a few spares. My electric bills are literally hundreds less than my neighbors who have similar size houses. I must also state I replaced the old fridge maybe 10 years ago and the central A/C at that time too. But hundreds of dollars per month over many years is huge savings in my eyes. I really don't know what the rest of you are waiting for.
The price difference from CFL to LED seems significant for the minor savings (ie going from a 16W CFL to 8W LED is not much of a savings but going from a 100W incandescent to a 16W CFL was a big savings). It is worth it now to go from an incandescent to LED. People who are sticking with incandescents are literally burning money for no reason. My electric company stocks thank you.
Thanks for reminding me about this. I have a pair of these LED goosenecks from IKEA that are loved by some numismatists. Oddly enough, I'm not using those for photography (yet) as they are in the middle of another big project. I still use a couple of standard goosenecks with 75W bulbs. Those should last me until I free up the LED ones. I've seen some pretty remarkable results from those IKEA goosenecks!
<< <i>Never was a fan of CFL's for coin photography, so I held out for LED's after my halogen goosnecks blew out.
I've been using LED gooseneck lights for my photos the past few months now. These lights seem to be more intense, but putting a sheet of tissue paper over them diffuses the light and results in better pictures. I like the fact that these lights never get hot and should last for quite a while. I really like the warm LED flood lights in our bathroom; cannot tell the difference from that and the old, very hot to the touch 75 watt bulbs that were there before.
Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water! >>
I have several led bulbs including one floodlight by my garage. The quality of light for led bulbs is way up. It's the only kind of light bulb I buy now.
Just finished a full interior home renovation, and replaced 98% of all my lighting fixtures.
I put in LEDs - expensive yes, but I like the light, and my electrician assured me that they will outlast me, so I'll probably never have to replace 'em........almost all have dimmer switches, which I absolutely love for every room wall, ceiling, etc.
(this has nothing to do with coin photography, but I thought I'd add my two watts worth)
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<< <i> How about hearing from those that have successfully made the transition to the bulb replacements that the rest of the hobby will be using going forward? >>
Going forward, many of the coins will be bogus copies in bogus slabs. The bogus bulbs will be appropriate.
<< <i>Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water! >>
I do not recall that the horse drawn carriage was made illegal when the motor car emerged as an alternate mode of transportation.
Same with the non chlorinated and fluoridated water. Both can still be purchased, though the carriages in new condition may be tough to find.
<< <i>Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water! >>
I do not recall that the horse drawn carriage was made illegal when the motor car emerged as an alternate mode of transportation.
Same with the non chlorinated and fluoridated water. Both can still be purchased, though the carriages in new condition may be tough to find. >>
Exactly. If we were talking about the demise of phonograph records, the buggy whip comparison would be appropriate. Congress didn't pass a record ban. CDs came along. If a product people have been using all their lives is phased out by law, it makes sense to buy them up so we can continue using them. It's simply a matter of being pro-choice in how we light our homes. Nothing illegal or radical about having a few hundred light bulbs stashed away.
I have removed all CFLs from inside my house replaced with LED bulbs ,longer lasting offsets the costs , which are coming down. Still using up my incandescents too. Also have some ecovantage halogens (they work great) no mercury.
Though supposedly 4 mlligrams of mercury in each CFL bulb. There is no law or standard I am aware of for this. Bulbs made in china could have more, who knows what you have. I do not want the worry or hassle of looking up of how to clean up a mercury break inside my house. It needs lots of ventilation.
I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt. Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years.
Keep in mind, the main thrust of getting rid of incandescents was not that they didn't last long enough is that they are very energy inefficient. They throw off more heat than light.
<< <i>I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt. Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years. >>
<< <i>Keep in mind, the main thrust of getting rid of incandescents was not that they didn't last long enough is that they are very energy inefficient. They throw off more heat than light.
<< <i>I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt. Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years. >>
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I'll put that BULB on eBay if you bid. It's got a provenance
...me too. in fact I saved a site on my favorites list where I've ordered them recently.
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I will not switch from incandescent bulbs, as they're the only type of bulbs that give off the kind of light I prefer. Right now I'm getting them from Mexico.
<< <i>I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt. Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years. >>
I bet it barely glows. I worked at an airport with 50' high ceilings. They used incandescent lamps, but they also used a 120v-100v transformer to increase the lamp life. They still had to buy a shaky lift to change the lamps.
<< <i>I will not switch from incandescent bulbs, as they're the only type of bulbs that give off the kind of light I prefer. Right now I'm getting them from Mexico. >>
you guys crack me up. Do you buy Crisco at the corner store too?
While most of my house is CFLs, my copy stand often has incandescent bulbs on it. There are many coin applications where incandescent light is superior, including grading and many photographic applications. And one doesn't have to be "anti-gubmint" or "old-fashioned" to recognize these numismatic applications.
"Buy your coins using halogen light, sell your coins using fluorescent light."
I was fortunate enough to buy 576 high quality long life incandescent 75 watt bulbs at the astonishing price of 3 cents each!
They came in 12 brown boxes of 12 4-packs and they were clearing them out at Lowes at $1.44 each. I keep thinking that they meant to sell them at the 4 pack price of $1.44 but no they were $1.44 for each big box!!
Someday, these will be MORE VALUABLE than my coins!!!
Sure, most of my house is led but I still like these for my coin viewing!!
<< <i>I was fortunate enough to buy 576 high quality long life incandescent 75 watt bulbs at the astonishing price of 3 cents each!
They came in 12 brown boxes of 12 4-packs and they were clearing them out at Lowes at $1.44 each. I keep thinking that they meant to sell them at the 4 pack price of $1.44 but no they were $1.44 for each big box!!
Someday, these will be MORE VALUABLE than my coins!!!
Sure, most of my house is led but I still like these for my coin viewing!! >>
Again, you guys really crack me up. My electric utility stocks thank you.
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...i love my non guv approved incan light bulbs!
<< <i>I've been very happy with the LEDs I've installed in my house. I purchased them at Home Depot and the label is EcoSmart. Doing a little more research, I have found out that they are made by a company of out Florida. Not China! go USA! >>
Yeah, I don't think so. 99% of the LED's are made in Shenzhen. Did the boxes you bought them in say "Made in USA" on them? The brief research I just did shows that the EcoSmart LED's look just like the ones I have purchased in downtown Shenzhen, locally made. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm 99% sure that all the "affordable" LED bulbs on the market are of Chinese manufacture.
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To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
I completely disagree with that. I've replaced 60W incadescents with 13W CFL's and they produce great white light. The 13W LED's are totally kick ass and 3 of them use less power then a single halogen and the LED produces a very, very bright pure white light.
In fact, the vanity CFL's we used to replace the normal ones were surprisingly more than adequate and use a hell of a lot less power. My wife was very pleasantly surprised and they came in convenient, inexpensive 3-packs at Sam's Club.
■I have read that CFLs contain mercury. Is that correct?
•Yes, all CFLs contain a very small amount of mercury, typically about 5 mg, which is 1/6000th of an ounce (mass). If all the mercury were concentrated in one droplet, that droplet would have a diameter of only 1.1 mm, which is 0.042 inches. Typical mercury-based fever thermometers contain 0.5 to 3 grams of mercury, which is 100 to 600 times as much mercury as a CFL that has 5 mg of mercury. Data on the mercury content of fever thermometers comes from: Mercury and the Environment - Sources of Mercury - Mercury Containing Products, a web site maintained by the Canadian government.
■Doesn't disposal of mercury-based products harm the environment?
•Yes, mercury is classified as a hazardous material by the US Environmental Protection Agency and CFLs should be recycled instead of being thrown out with the normal trash. However, in many cases use of CFLs will offset mercury that would otherwise be introduced into the environment from other sources. For example, coal contains mercury and this mercury is released into the environment when coal is burned to produce electricity. If the electricity used to operate your lamps is generated from coal, and you operate 100-watt incandescent lamps for 10,000 hours, the power generating plant will release between 40 mg and 70 mg of mercury into the environment, depending upon the type of coal being used. If instead of the 100-watt incandescent lamp, you use a 25-watt CFL, the power plant mercury emissions drop to between 10 and 18 mg over the same 10,000 hour period, again depending upon the type of coal used. Even when the 5 mg of mercury in the CFL is added to the environment at the end of the lamp's 10,000 hours life, the total mercury from using the CFL is far less than using the incandescent lamp. Mercury emissions will be lower for For lower power incandescent lamps and CFL replacements, but for any incandescent lamp of 40 watts or greater, there will be more mercury added to the environment by using an incandescent lamp than by using a CFL, assuming that the electricity used to operate both is generated by burning coal.
If the electrical power used to operate your lamps comes from oil, hydro, wind, even nuclear power plants then use of a CFL will not be directly offsetting mercury released by power plants. However, by using less electrical power from your "low-mercury" or "mercury-free" generating plant, you make more of this relatively clean power available to replace power generated by coal-fired plants. And, you will save money, no matter what type of fuel is used to generate your electrical power.
Because CFLs contain mercury they should be recycled instead of thrown in the normal trash. However, even if a relatively large number of CFLs are disposed of in landfills instead of being recycled, they will not significantly increase the amount of mercury in the waste stream. A report titled Mercury Programme, published by the United Nations Environmental Programme, estimated that in 2000 there were 145 metric tons of mercury added to the solid waste stream in the United States. If 200 million CFLs, each containing 5 mg of mercury were placed in the solid waste stream in one year, they would add only 1 metric ton, or less than 0.7% of the total annual mercury load in the waste stream.
<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out
the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W.
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<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
I completely disagree with that. I've replaced 60W incadescents with 13W CFL's and they produce great white light. The 13W LED's are totally kick ass and 3 of them use less power then a single halogen and the LED produces a very, very bright pure white light.
In fact, the vanity CFL's we used to replace the normal ones were surprisingly more than adequate and use a hell of a lot less power. My wife was very pleasantly surprised and they came in convenient, inexpensive 3-packs at Sam's Club. >>
I am sick and tired of people trying to run my life. If you want to use them fine but I am not going to. I am not about to change all my overhead
lights just because other people decide I should. If it costs me an extra dollar or two a month, so be it.
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<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out
the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W. >>
I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that cfl's give as good a light as the old style bulb.They may give off this or that in lumens but they still do not supply a decent light.People use cfl's for growing plants indoors,a cheap grow lamp,it's a different kind of light alltogether.
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<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out
the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W. >>
I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that cfl's give as good a light as the old style bulb.They may give off this or that in lumens but they still do not supply a decent light.People use cfl's for growing plants indoors,a cheap grow lamp,it's a different kind of light alltogether. >>
I agree! Try and read a book without a 150 watt curly cue bulb!
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<< <i>To get as much light out of curly thing , you have to go from a 100 watt bulb to 150 watt bulb. I like o see what I am doing. Where is the savings on that?
I bet the people that are pushing these idiotic things are using the bigger bulbs. >>
Patently false. I just replaced a 120W incandescent flood light in our bathroom with a CFL which puts out
the same amount of lumens. Power consumption of the new bulb is 26W. >>
I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that cfl's give as good a light as the old style bulb.They may give off this or that in lumens but they still do not supply a decent light.People use cfl's for growing plants indoors,a cheap grow lamp,it's a different kind of light alltogether. >>
I guess it depends on the color temperature of the CFL and the intended usage. The one I
bought provides a soft, warm light similar in spectrum to the incandescent it replaced. The
only downside is a slight (sub-second) lag in coming on and up to a minute to reach full
brightness. For the purposes of bathroom lighting, I'm completely satisfied.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
How many of you have already made the move to using CFL's or LED's for grading and/or photography? How's the new type of light working for your photographs?
<< <i>From the dangerously powerful EPA.....always looking out for us citizens!!!!
1.Before cleanup
*Have people and pets leave the room.
*Air out the room for 5-10 minutes by opening a window or door to the outdoor environment.
*Shut off the central forced air heating/air-conditioning system, if you have one.
*Collect materials needed to clean up broken bulb.
2.During cleanup
*Be thorough in collecting broken glass and visible powder.
*Place cleanup materials in a sealable container.
3.After cleanup
*Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of properly. Avoid leaving any bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors.
*If practical, continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the heating/air conditioning system shut off for several hours.
EPA Link >>
I just read their extended clean up instructions and based on what the EPA has posted...
Health concern wise it might be better and far easier to just burn the house down and move if a new type bulb breaks!
<< <i>So, other than specialty bulbs, this is the end for the conventional incandescent.
How many of you have already made the move to using CFL's or LED's for grading and/or photography? How's the new type of light working for your photographs? >>
Stockpiled the old non gore bulbs.
<< <i>Okay, so we've heard from all the bulb hoarders and people afraid of breaking new bulbs. How about hearing from those that have successfully made the transition to the bulb replacements that the rest of the hobby will be using going forward? >>
Never was a fan of CFL's for coin photography, so I held out for LED's after my halogen goosnecks blew out.
I've been using LED gooseneck lights for my photos the past few months now. These lights seem to be more intense, but putting a sheet of tissue paper over them diffuses the light and results in better pictures. I like the fact that these lights never get hot and should last for quite a while. I really like the warm LED flood lights in our bathroom; cannot tell the difference from that and the old, very hot to the touch 75 watt bulbs that were there before.
Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water!
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The price difference from CFL to LED seems significant for the minor savings (ie going from a 16W CFL to 8W LED is not much of a savings but going from a 100W incandescent to a 16W CFL was a big savings). It is worth it now to go from an incandescent to LED. People who are sticking with incandescents are literally burning money for no reason. My electric company stocks thank you.
<< <i>Never was a fan of CFL's for coin photography, so I held out for LED's after my halogen goosnecks blew out.
I've been using LED gooseneck lights for my photos the past few months now. These lights seem to be more intense, but putting a sheet of tissue paper over them diffuses the light and results in better pictures. I like the fact that these lights never get hot and should last for quite a while. I really like the warm LED flood lights in our bathroom; cannot tell the difference from that and the old, very hot to the touch 75 watt bulbs that were there before.
Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water! >>
We'll use our hands and hearts and if we must we'll use our heads.
Box of 20
and replaced 98% of all my lighting fixtures.
I put in LEDs - expensive yes, but I like the
light, and my electrician assured me that
they will outlast me, so I'll probably never
have to replace 'em........almost all have
dimmer switches, which I absolutely love
for every room wall, ceiling, etc.
(this has nothing to do with coin photography,
but I thought I'd add my two watts worth)
<< <i> How about hearing from those that have successfully made the transition to the bulb replacements that the rest of the hobby will be using going forward? >>
Going forward, many of the coins will be bogus copies in bogus slabs. The bogus bulbs will be appropriate.
<< <i>Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water! >>
I do not recall that the horse drawn carriage was made illegal when the motor car emerged as an alternate mode of transportation.
Same with the non chlorinated and fluoridated water. Both can still be purchased, though the carriages in new condition may be tough to find.
<< <i>Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! >>
I've got a great source for gas masks and MREs if you want it.
His photograph example below is as close as possible to how coins actually look in hand.
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<< <i>Some of the responses on this thread come across as anti-gubmint, doomsday prepping talk, sheesh! Next thing you know, they'll take away our buggy whips and non-treated all natural water! >>
I do not recall that the horse drawn carriage was made illegal when the motor car emerged as an alternate mode of transportation.
Same with the non chlorinated and fluoridated water. Both can still be purchased, though the carriages in new condition may be tough to find. >>
Exactly. If we were talking about the demise of phonograph records, the buggy whip comparison would be appropriate. Congress didn't pass a record ban. CDs came along. If a product people have been using all their lives is phased out by law, it makes sense to buy them up so we can continue using them. It's simply a matter of being pro-choice in how we light our homes. Nothing illegal or radical about having a few hundred light bulbs stashed away.
I have removed all CFLs from inside my house replaced with LED bulbs ,longer lasting offsets the costs , which are coming down.
Still using up my incandescents too. Also have some ecovantage halogens (they work great) no mercury.
Though supposedly 4 mlligrams of mercury in each CFL bulb.
There is no law or standard I am aware of for this.
Bulbs made in china could have more, who knows what you have. I do not want the worry or hassle of looking up of how to clean up a mercury break
inside my house. It needs lots of ventilation.
Krueger
Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i>I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt.
Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years. >>
<< <i>Keep in mind, the main thrust of getting rid of incandescents was not that they didn't last long enough is that they are very energy inefficient. They throw off more heat than light.
<< <i>I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt.
Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years. >>
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I'll put that BULB on eBay if you bid. It's got a provenance
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Stockpiled the old non gore bulbs.
...me too. in fact I saved a site on my favorites list where I've ordered them recently.
<< <i>I returned from Germany in 1988. Unpacked all the household goods and there sat a lamp with an OSRAM incandescent bulb from Germany. 220 V, 60 Watt.
Purchased a house in 1989 and put that bulb in the fixture for the front foyer. It's still lighting up after 25 years. >>
I bet it barely glows. I worked at an airport with 50' high ceilings. They used incandescent lamps, but they also used a 120v-100v transformer to increase the lamp life. They still had to buy a shaky lift to change the lamps.
<< <i>I will not switch from incandescent bulbs, as they're the only type of bulbs that give off the kind of light I prefer. Right now I'm getting them from Mexico. >>
you guys crack me up. Do you buy Crisco at the corner store too?
K
My 1866 Philly Mint Set
How you been?
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
"Buy your coins using halogen light, sell your coins using fluorescent light."
They came in 12 brown boxes of 12 4-packs and they were clearing them out at Lowes at $1.44 each. I keep thinking that they meant to sell them at the 4 pack price of $1.44 but no they were $1.44 for each big box!!
Someday, these will be MORE VALUABLE than my coins!!!
Sure, most of my house is led but I still like these for my coin viewing!!
<< <i>I was fortunate enough to buy 576 high quality long life incandescent 75 watt bulbs at the astonishing price of 3 cents each!
They came in 12 brown boxes of 12 4-packs and they were clearing them out at Lowes at $1.44 each. I keep thinking that they meant to sell them at the 4 pack price of $1.44 but no they were $1.44 for each big box!!
Someday, these will be MORE VALUABLE than my coins!!!
Sure, most of my house is led but I still like these for my coin viewing!! >>
Again, you guys really crack me up. My electric utility stocks thank you.
what a troll, like the whole forum using the bulbs to photograph coins adds up to anything. take your pennies to the bank.
Soon they'll all burn out in 30 days just like the old ones. Of course they got the old ones to throw a spark when they burned out.
<< <i>In Texas in July, we don't want to heat our homes! >>
I'm in San Antonio and already don't want to heat my home!