Bikini skiing used to be common in Colorado.........
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Summer of Fun: Geithner "borrows" from 2 public pension funds to float the gov't from May 16-Aug 2. 22% unemployment in my town. Food is more expensive but at least it comes in smaller sizes. My utilities bills have started to skyrocket, necessarily so.
<< <i>Doom and Gloomers will always be with us. I think the US will come out of the kink and will ok one day. Maybe not in the next few years, but we'll fight back and look good. >>
I'm sure that those that came out of the Great Depression would have preferred that it had been prevented. You'll find that the majority of doom and gloomers are simply reading the very obvious economic tea leaves and are only hoping that the warnings are heeded.
Unfortunately, those of us that work for a living have finally become outnumbered by those that vote for a living.
Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.
I remember when the East had a blackout in 2003 or 2004. It was fun. We cooked corn and steak on the grill. I finished putting up chair rail in the diningroom with a homemade mitrebox and claw hammer.
well between crashing space junk, solar flares, earthquakes, crazy weather/drought/fires/tornadoes, possible dark stars, comet trails, blah blah blah ..... this is a picnic ----- Let's just hope PM's don't crash the party.
I need to get my guns and ammo first. Hopefully, the STHF will wait until all the permits and waiting periods have been met.
MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i><Sounds strangely familiar -- great minds think alike?>
Or two dummies
For the record I'm not a SHTF subscriber in the Mad Maxx sort of way. I would prefer to hear Baley babble on forever then then to have harriers and zombies nipping at my heels. Zombies scare the crap out of me. I will be whipping hunks of gold and silver at them to make my getaway. I believe I can out out run zombies as they are sort of slow. I just need to remember not to look back while I'm running. That always seems to be the downfall of many in the movies as they trip over an old tree root or beer bottle.
MJ >>
One of the greatest lines in movie history, from 1968, 'Night of the living dead.'
Reporter: "Are they slow moving, Chief."
Sheriff: "Yeah, they're dead. They're all messed up."
<< <i>"SHTF" Worshipping is a sad religion indeed. >>
Kind of like preparing for the end of the world. First, why bet on something that will only happen once in eternity and second, why prepare (worry) for something that will kill you anyway.
<< <i>"SHTF" Worshipping is a sad religion indeed. >>
Kind of like preparing for the end of the world. First, why bet on something that will only happen once in eternity and second, why prepare (worry) for something that will kill you anyway.
Party on boys!!!! >>
Sanity prevails Good grief, what am I going to do with my years worth of stockpiled food and enough ammo to arm an army? Perhaps I can barter some for unopened boxes of 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle Sets
I'm still keeping "an eye" on Nibiru though
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>How's those metrics? anyone spot any hyperinflation or zombies? >>
Does this count? >>
While I understand why people like to poke fun of survivalists, at the same time though there's nothing wrong with preparing for rough times. Take food for example. Up until 100 years ago humans have always stored as much food as they could. Yet today people make fun of preppers for keeping 6 months worth of food on hand. That doesn't make sense to me... As for inflation, you simply have to be kidding yourself if you think there's no risk of hyper-inflation. If the money supply chart above doesn't at least make you consider the possibilities of inflation, than I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps the debt chart will at least make you consider the possibility:
Why wouldn't a person allocate at least a small portion of their savings in precious metals purchased at melt given the above?
The closest we'll ever see to a SHTF scenario is going to be localized disasters such as hurricanes and earthquakes. In such cases silver dimes and gold eagles will mean nothing. In these situations actual paper money, coin dollars, and canned food, bottled water will come in most handy. The power will be down so paperless transactions will be shut down for awhile. I live almost on the New Madrid fault line and FEMA has stated that, in the event of a major earthquake, it would take them approximately 3 weeks before they could get into deep southern IL with assistance. That would definitely leave a lot of people without food after only 2-3 days. This is what causes the looting like what you saw in New Orleans. In this case a well stocked pantry and being armed is the best option. The people on welfare that keep little food in the house and shop for food daily at convenience stores will be on the prowl.
In conclusion, PMs are an investment tool. A silver dime or quarter is just a dime and quarter to the overwhelming majority of people.
70% of all real estate sales in South Fla are foreclosures or short sales. Ever hear anything like that before? The new mantra is "rent". "Renting" is better than owning. This is from the same types that have not owned a car prolly and can't muster even a few grand for a used one.
Take cable away and there would be rioting in the streets. That's when you should be worried. Give the people cable and sing them a lullaby or let them buy from Home Shopping and there will be peace in the valley. Numb is good for the masses.
Some may argue that the dollar has already collapsed albeit via a slow drip over the past 80 years or so losing 95% of it's purchasing power. No one notices when it's done over time. Drip, drip, drip
It is what it is.
I'm not a buyer of a TSHTF scenerio ever happening. I hope I'm right. I'm prepared for one though I THINK, but I doubt I will have thought of everything as there is no way to know for sure what shape or form SHTF will come in. My advise, enjoy life, kiss your kids, pet your wife and take the dog to a lot of dinners and movies and tell those that you cherish, " I love you"...........often. Hope for the best and prepare yourself and your family for rough times. There is no defense for harriers so why worry about it.
MJ >>
I got Direct TV and DVD's.....I got it covered..my wife likes the Kiddie movies.......Bring it on.....!!
So the dollar has lost 90% of its value since the FED came into existence. So in 100 years what will 90% of today remaining 10% be. This can only go on for so long than what? Are we looking at million dollar salaries for the middle class in the next 20-30 years?
<< <i>That chart makes me think deflation, not inflation. >>
Everything makes you think deflation. You are the anti-viagra of this forum
MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Monday January 09, 2012 12:40 PM (NEW!) The closest we'll ever see to a SHTF scenario is going to be localized disasters such as hurricanes and earthquakes. In such cases silver dimes and gold eagles will mean nothing. In these situations actual paper money, coin dollars, and canned food, bottled water will come in most handy. The power will be down so paperless transactions will be shut down for awhile. I live almost on the New Madrid fault line and FEMA has stated that, in the event of a major earthquake, it would take them approximately 3 weeks before they could get into deep southern IL with assistance. That would definitely leave a lot of people without food after only 2-3 days. This is what causes the looting like what you saw in New Orleans. In this case a well stocked pantry and being armed is the best option. The people on welfare that keep little food in the house and shop for food daily at convenience stores will be on the prowl.
In conclusion, PMs are an investment tool. A silver dime or quarter is just a dime and quarter to the overwhelming majority of people.
PS: those who think the dollar has "collapsed" or that the S has already hit the fan on a national scale do not define the terms the way most of us do.
Not saying it Can't, not saying it Won't, not saying One shouldn't be Prepared. Just saying, it Hasn't
IMHO there isn't much one can do about a big SHTF scenario short of becoming a survivalist and stocking MRE's and ammo, that's not for me. I like to look at the glass as half full. However, these are perilous times and I think one should diversify his assets as much as possible to protect against more likely events, inflation being my main concern.
<< <i>IMHO there isn't much one can do about a big SHTF scenario short of becoming a survivalist and stocking MRE's and ammo, that's not for me. I like to look at the glass as half full. However, these are perilous times and I think one should diversify his assets as much as possible to protect against more likely events, inflation being my main concern. >>
Actually those saying they have this and that wouldn't be any better off either. They'd lock down the cities and you'd have people wondering around the country side. I don't care what kind of fire power you have but it better be a shovel since you couldn't hold it against a small group much less a large one. How many ever watch westerns? Ever see how the Indians got the settlers out of their homes? There's a new horseless carriage out there you just set it on fire and put it in drive. It comes to that and you'd better be able to live off the land or go to a FEMA camp.
My family spent 18 days (in 5 to 7 day chunks) without power during the 2004 hurricane season here in Florida. Without a doubt having enough food, water, and cash on hand was a huge plus. Most retail stores would not open without power, but even the ones with power did not have their credit card service running and I witnessed MANY people b1tch and moan about not having cash.
<< <i>My family spent 18 days (in 5 to 7 day chunks) without power during the 2004 hurricane season here in Florida. Without a doubt having enough food, water, and cash on hand was a huge plus. Most retail stores would not open without power, but even the ones with power did not have their credit card service running and I witnessed MANY people b1tch and moan about not having cash. >>
I didn't mean to not be prepared for a short term crisis. We had the '99 ice storm as a wake up call and we are now prepared to go at least a month without electricity, stores etc.
So, in that respect, it's just like prision (or being lost in wilderness?)
Cigarettes and whisky, bic lighters and razor blades, bottled water and canned or pouched food, and maybe a good stout stick of wood, would get you through a few days at least?
How about paper cash money? Any disaster witnesses/participants that can comment on the relative usefullness of folding money versus gold coins in a real-life short to med. term disaster?
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Stocks Charge Ahead
Housing Ticks Up
Has Gold Peaked?
Corn Prices Extend Selloff
Euro-Zone Output Slows Pace
Swiss Economy Starts Showing Toll of Strong Swiss Franc
The Future Still Belongs to America
For Lucky Ski Bums, a Rare Chance to Hit Slopes on July 4th
Happy Independence Day!
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Housing Ticks Up As Selling Prices Drop in over 50% of urban markets.
Has Gold Peaked? What do YOU think?
Corn Prices Extend Selloff Ethanol subsidies set to expire.
Euro-Zone Output Slows Pace A weaker Euro a stronger Dollar does not make.
Swiss Economy Starts Showing Toll of Strong Swiss Franc No surprise there.
The Future Still Belongs to America Unless we find more ways to blow it (and there is no evidence to the contrary, yet.)
For Lucky Ski Bums, a Rare Chance to Hit Slopes on July 4th YES! YES!
Happy Independence Day! Roger that, 10-4 good buddy!
I knew it would happen.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>I could learn to like living in a ski resort town.
Happy 4th everyone!!!
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
22% unemployment in my town. Food is more expensive but at least it comes in smaller sizes. My utilities bills have started to skyrocket, necessarily so.
<< <i>Doom and Gloomers will always be with us. I think the US will come out of the kink and will ok one day. Maybe not in the next few years, but we'll fight back and look good. >>
I'm sure that those that came out of the Great Depression would have preferred that it had been prevented. You'll find that the majority of doom and gloomers are simply reading the very obvious economic tea leaves and are only hoping that the warnings are heeded.
Unfortunately, those of us that work for a living have finally become outnumbered by those that vote for a living.
Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.
I like it! Can I use that in my sig line?
In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
"The stores are all closed, with a word she can get what she came for"
unusual in So Cal. The kids are having a blast, hope all my friends are enjoying the drill
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Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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Yes, Baley - for the record, that is good. Unless you own lots of stocks. If you own precious metals, it probably doesn't matter one way or the other.
I knew it would happen.
it's comin'
"it" is?
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<< <i>200
it's comin'
"it" is? >>
any day now
I need to get my guns and ammo first. Hopefully, the STHF will wait until all the permits and waiting periods have been met.
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i><Sounds strangely familiar -- great minds think alike?>
Or two dummies
For the record I'm not a SHTF subscriber in the Mad Maxx sort of way. I would prefer to hear Baley babble on forever then then to have harriers and zombies nipping at my heels. Zombies scare the crap out of me. I will be whipping hunks of gold and silver at them to make my getaway. I believe I can out out run zombies as they are sort of slow. I just need to remember not to look back while I'm running. That always seems to be the downfall of many in the movies as they trip over an old tree root or beer bottle.
MJ >>
One of the greatest lines in movie history, from 1968, 'Night of the living dead.'
Reporter: "Are they slow moving, Chief."
Sheriff: "Yeah, they're dead. They're all messed up."
<< <i>200
it's comin' >>
Coin's for sale/trade.
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<< <i>
<< <i>200
it's comin' >>
i am so happy that most of you can count!
it's comin'"
Oil?
Got CASH?
peacockcoins
<< <i>"SHTF" Worshipping is a sad religion indeed. >>
Kind of like preparing for the end of the world. First, why bet on something that will only happen once in eternity and second, why prepare (worry) for something that will kill you anyway.
Party on boys!!!!
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
My life time motto!
"The road goes on forever & the PARTY never ends!"
Robert E Keen
<< <i>
<< <i>"SHTF" Worshipping is a sad religion indeed. >>
Kind of like preparing for the end of the world. First, why bet on something that will only happen once in eternity and second, why prepare (worry) for something that will kill you anyway.
Party on boys!!!!
Sanity prevails
Good grief, what am I going to do with my years worth of stockpiled food and enough ammo to arm an army? Perhaps I can barter some for unopened boxes of 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle Sets
I'm still keeping "an eye" on Nibiru though
<< <i>I'm still keeping "an eye" on Nibiru though
I had to look it up.
Hopefully all those hours spent watching Stargate will leave me well prepared.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
maybe next time Planet X comes around
what fun the relief rally of 2013 will be! it's not the end of life as we know it, after all
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"The West Coast line is open...."
All quiet on the western front..
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<< <i>How's those metrics? anyone spot any hyperinflation or zombies? >>
Does this count?
Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.
<< <i>
<< <i>How's those metrics? anyone spot any hyperinflation or zombies? >>
Does this count? >>
While I understand why people like to poke fun of survivalists, at the same time though there's nothing wrong with preparing for rough times. Take food for example. Up until 100 years ago humans have always stored as much food as they could. Yet today people make fun of preppers for keeping 6 months worth of food on hand. That doesn't make sense to me... As for inflation, you simply have to be kidding yourself if you think there's no risk of hyper-inflation. If the money supply chart above doesn't at least make you consider the possibilities of inflation, than I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps the debt chart will at least make you consider the possibility:
Why wouldn't a person allocate at least a small portion of their savings in precious metals purchased at melt given the above?
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
I knew it would happen.
In conclusion, PMs are an investment tool. A silver dime or quarter is just a dime and quarter to the overwhelming majority of people.
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<< <i>SHTF in America= no cable
Take cable away and there would be rioting in the streets. That's when you should be worried. Give the people cable and sing them a lullaby or let them buy from Home Shopping and there will be peace in the valley. Numb is good for the masses.
Some may argue that the dollar has already collapsed albeit via a slow drip over the past 80 years or so losing 95% of it's purchasing power. No one notices when it's done over time. Drip, drip, drip
It is what it is.
I'm not a buyer of a TSHTF scenerio ever happening. I hope I'm right. I'm prepared for one though I THINK, but I doubt I will have thought of everything as there is no way to know for sure what shape or form SHTF will come in. My advise, enjoy life, kiss your kids, pet your wife and take the dog to a lot of dinners and movies and tell those that you cherish, " I love you"...........often. Hope for the best and prepare yourself and your family for rough times. There is no defense for harriers so why worry about it.
MJ >>
I got Direct TV and DVD's.....I got it covered..my wife likes the Kiddie movies...
Box of 20
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mariner67, and Mikes coins
<< <i>That chart makes me think deflation, not inflation. >>
Everything makes you think deflation. You are the anti-viagra of this forum
MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>
<< <i>That chart makes me think deflation, not inflation. >>
Everything makes you think deflation. You are the anti-viagra of this forum
MJ >>
Why am I the only one rooting for a sale?!
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
This means all our obligations will be more expensive, our government will do all in its power to prevent this, in my opinion.
Monday January 09, 2012 12:40 PM (NEW!)
The closest we'll ever see to a SHTF scenario is going to be localized disasters such as hurricanes and earthquakes. In such cases silver dimes and gold eagles will mean nothing. In these situations actual paper money, coin dollars, and canned food, bottled water will come in most handy. The power will be down so paperless transactions will be shut down for awhile. I live almost on the New Madrid fault line and FEMA has stated that, in the event of a major earthquake, it would take them approximately 3 weeks before they could get into deep southern IL with assistance. That would definitely leave a lot of people without food after only 2-3 days. This is what causes the looting like what you saw in New Orleans. In this case a well stocked pantry and being armed is the best option. The people on welfare that keep little food in the house and shop for food daily at convenience stores will be on the prowl.
In conclusion, PMs are an investment tool. A silver dime or quarter is just a dime and quarter to the overwhelming majority of people.
PS: those who think the dollar has "collapsed" or that the S has already hit the fan on a national scale do not define the terms the way most of us do.
Not saying it Can't, not saying it Won't, not saying One shouldn't be Prepared. Just saying, it Hasn't
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>IMHO there isn't much one can do about a big SHTF scenario short of becoming a survivalist and stocking MRE's and ammo, that's not for me. I like to look at the glass as half full. However, these are perilous times and I think one should diversify his assets as much as possible to protect against more likely events, inflation being my main concern. >>
Actually those saying they have this and that wouldn't be any better off either. They'd lock down
the cities and you'd have people wondering around the country side. I don't care what kind of fire
power you have but it better be a shovel since you couldn't hold it against a small group much less
a large one. How many ever watch westerns? Ever see how the Indians got the settlers out of
their homes? There's a new horseless carriage out there you just set it on fire and put it in drive.
It comes to that and you'd better be able to live off the land or go to a FEMA camp.
<< <i>My family spent 18 days (in 5 to 7 day chunks) without power during the 2004 hurricane season here in Florida. Without a doubt having enough food, water, and cash on hand was a huge plus. Most retail stores would not open without power, but even the ones with power did not have their credit card service running and I witnessed MANY people b1tch and moan about not having cash. >>
I didn't mean to not be prepared for a short term crisis. We had the '99 ice storm as a wake up call and we are now prepared to go at least a month without electricity, stores etc.
Box of 20
http://shtfschool.com/category/general/
Natural forces of supply and demand are the best regulators on earth.
Cigarettes and whisky, bic lighters and razor blades, bottled water and canned or pouched food, and maybe a good stout stick of wood, would get you through a few days at least?
How about paper cash money? Any disaster witnesses/participants that can comment on the relative usefullness of folding money versus gold coins in a real-life short to med. term disaster?
"Hey, can anyone make change for a kruggerand?"
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
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