<< <i>I don't know where you all find all these 70s cellos with stars on top. Though it might be easier to find the ones with stars on top than not. People keep the stars and open the non-stars. That means all my non-star packs have to be more valuable. How many people had a 78 cello with Mike Lum on top? But since you guys have helped me out here, I could probably be convinced to trade you some of my valuable non-star packs for your ordinary run of the mill star on top packs. Just let me know. >>
You should talk to Tim. He puts me to shame.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
I was looking through the 70's cellos selling on EBay last night and I couldn't believe some of the prices they were asking for the cellos with no stars. Do you have similar selling estimates for various 70's cello packs with no stars on top.
Jim
<< <i>< Guessing 120-150 each?
I'd buy a boatload of 75 racks that price! >>
LOL - indeed. Amazing how a few years difference makes such a difference.
So what are we looking at for the 70s in terms of average Topps Baseball rack pack price (no star showing)?
I've typed in what approximate retail prices for racks 1970-1973 with common cards showing would average. Of course, racks with well-centered cards and racks with no splits or tears would realize full retail price with lesser grade racks realizing somewhat lower prices.. The series would definitely be a factor in value, too..1971 is more popular than 1970 and will command higher prices in most cases.. >>
Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball 60's OPC packs 72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs 72 and earlier BB cello
A lot of the 70s cellos listed on ebay with BIN prices are obscenely overpriced. I've seen the same packs listed month after month for a year or more.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I offered some average prices for racks in a previous post. Here's some average market prices for cellos from the 70s. For packs from 1973 and earlier, the series will affect value, for example, a series 5 pack in 1973 will be worth a premium over a series 4 pack. Cello condition (no splits or tears) is also a factor. Topps produced ONLY jumbo cellos from 1970 through 1972. Those grocery cellos you see up for sale on ebay are bogus. For those years, cellos were housed in an outer cardboard box---green in 1970 (no gum either in 1970 packs), and blue in 1971 and 1972. 1970 cellos contained 33 cards. 1971 cellos contained 30 cards and 1972 packs 27 cards, if memory serves me correctly (the 1972 box did not list the card count). I've noted the card count for other years on the list as well. The prices I've listed are approximate, imo..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I like the grade 69 blue cello on EBay now. Too bad its 1000 dollars plus another 15 for shipping. I see there are several of the other type 69 cellos listed also. BTW Are the 74 and 75 FB cellos like the fake 70-72 cellos. They don't ;llok tight but I'm not sure of the dates on football grocery packs. Mike, Tim , Mike do you think you might be able to PM me some hints on good Ebay dealers and ones I should avoid that deal with unopened? Thanks for you help.
Jim Aiming for Baltimore
Looking for 66 and 69 OPC baseball 60's OPC packs 72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs 72 and earlier BB cello
<< <i>Mike do you think you might be able to PM me some hints on good Ebay dealers and ones I should avoid that deal with unopened? Thanks for you help.
Jim Aiming for Baltimore >>
PM sent.
And here's to Baltimore next year.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
71s are tougher to find but 350 is low for a legit 70 cello, imo. Unfortunately those bogus grocery cellos have affected the value of all jumbo cellos. I'd say 600 would be accurate for a PSA graded 71 cello in NM condition, maybe even more if it were graded an 8 or 9.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
legit 1970 cellos are def. easier to find than 1971 cellos so I would bump does down to $350-400 and 1971 up to $600-700.
Last time I looked there were 28 PSA graded 1970 cellos and only 5 graded 1971 cellos.
John
Edit to add, I know that 2 of the 1970 cellos mentioned above have been opened. >>
If I ever decide to grade my packs that will leave me with a dilemma. Do you submit the pack inside the cardboard box and do they even holder it inside the box? I like having the pack in the original box.
legit 1970 cellos are def. easier to find than 1971 cellos so I would bump does down to $350-400 and 1971 up to $600-700.
Last time I looked there were 28 PSA graded 1970 cellos and only 5 graded 1971 cellos.
John
Edit to add, I know that 2 of the 1970 cellos mentioned above have been opened. >>
If I ever decide to grade my packs that will leave me with a dilemma. Do you submit the pack inside the cardboard box and do they even holder it inside the box? I like having the pack in the original box. >>
PSA will not include the box when grading 1970-72 cellos.
That's one thing I liked about GAI--they holdered the box if you submitted it. After all, the box is part of the package.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>... all this talk about boxes and packages ... yikes! >>
Gemint, I agree with you that the early 70s jumbo cellos would like much better with the box, but I guess PSA can't justify the price for the bigger holders needed. I really wish they grade rack packs, but it is what it is.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>I offered some average prices for racks in a previous post. Here's some average market prices for cellos from the 70s. For packs from 1973 and earlier, the series will affect value, for example, a series 5 pack in 1973 will be worth a premium over a series 4 pack. Cello condition (no splits or tears) is also a factor. Topps produced ONLY jumbo cellos from 1970 through 1972. Those grocery cellos you see up for sale on ebay are bogus. For those years, cellos were housed in an outer cardboard box---green in 1970 (no gum either in 1970 packs), and blue in 1971 and 1972. 1970 cellos contained 33 cards. 1971 cellos contained 30 cards and 1972 packs 27 cards, if memory serves me correctly (the 1972 box did not list the card count). I've noted the card count for other years on the list as well. The prices I've listed are approximate, imo..
Needed to take a break at work so I figured I post my newest 1974 rack pack during lunch. And while I'm at it, here are my other 2 1974 rack packs. These are much harder to come by than their 1975 counterparts.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
WTG Mike ... nice 74's ... Too bad the Kranepool was not on the front!
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Larry Lintz and Leo Foster ... What more can you ask for? LOL. Nice pick-ups Mike. Congrats.
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Thanks guys. I think I'm more like the Baseball Pack Prince, Grote is the King!!! I also think Bobby should now be referred to as the Football Pack King.
<< <i>I'm partial to the Morris pack and the Molitor pack appears to "not" have that pesky print smudge around the "rookie" word - very nice. >>
You are right Mike, the Molitor cello pack is free of the print smudge which is why I had to have it. Unfortunately, the 1978 rack I picked up does have the print smudge but these are hard to come across so I couldn't pass it up. I'd like to think the other 1978 rack pack with Molitor on the back has no print smudge on it.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
DA MUGSTERRRRRRRRRRRR reappears! How are things going?
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
I'm with you. I could keep PSA busy for months with all the rack packs I've accumulated and would like to get graded.
Don't worry, you didn't miss an auction. I got the 78 Molitor racks in an off eBay deal after I bought some 1975 rack packs from the seller on eBay. Once it hits the bay, it's open season on racks like these.
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Comments
<< <i>I don't know where you all find all these 70s cellos with stars on top. Though it might be easier to find the ones with stars on top than not. People keep the stars and open the non-stars.
You should talk to Tim. He puts me to shame.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>Damn thats nice. I want one of those please!
Matt, that is what I was up to while you were having fun at the National.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
I was looking through the 70's cellos selling on EBay last night and I couldn't believe some of the prices they were asking for the cellos with no stars. Do you have similar selling estimates for various 70's cello packs with no stars on top.
Jim
<< <i>< Guessing 120-150 each?
I'd buy a boatload of 75 racks that price! >>
LOL - indeed. Amazing how a few years difference makes such a difference.
So what are we looking at for the 70s in terms of average Topps Baseball rack pack price (no star showing)?
70 - $650
71 - $700
72 - $500
73 - $350
74 - $250
75 - $200
76 - $125
77 - $75
78 - $50
79 - $30
This should be fun
I've typed in what approximate retail prices for racks 1970-1973 with common cards showing would average. Of course, racks with well-centered cards and racks with no splits or tears would realize full retail price with lesser grade racks realizing somewhat lower prices.. The series would definitely be a factor in value, too..1971 is more popular than 1970 and will command higher prices in most cases.. >>
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
1979 (18 cards): $15
1978 (21 cards): $25
1977 (18 cards): $40
1976 (18 cards): $75
1975 (18 cards): $85
1974 (22 cards): $150
1973 (27 cards): $200
1972 (27 cards): $350
1971 (30 cards): $500
1970 (33 cards): $500
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
BTW Are the 74 and 75 FB cellos like the fake 70-72 cellos. They don't ;llok tight but I'm not sure of the dates on football grocery packs.
Mike, Tim , Mike do you think you might be able to PM me some hints on good Ebay dealers and ones I should avoid that deal with unopened?
Thanks for you help.
Jim
Aiming for Baltimore
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
<< <i>Mike do you think you might be able to PM me some hints on good Ebay dealers and ones I should avoid that deal with unopened?
Thanks for you help.
Jim
Aiming for Baltimore >>
PM sent.
And here's to Baltimore next year.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
1970 (33 cards): $500"
legit 1970 cellos are def. easier to find than 1971 cellos so I would bump does down to $350-400 and 1971 up to $600-700.
Last time I looked there were 28 PSA graded 1970 cellos and only 5 graded 1971 cellos.
John
Edit to add, I know that 2 of the 1970 cellos mentioned above have been opened.
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>"1971 (30 cards): $500
1970 (33 cards): $500"
legit 1970 cellos are def. easier to find than 1971 cellos so I would bump does down to $350-400 and 1971 up to $600-700.
Last time I looked there were 28 PSA graded 1970 cellos and only 5 graded 1971 cellos.
John
Edit to add, I know that 2 of the 1970 cellos mentioned above have been opened. >>
If I ever decide to grade my packs that will leave me with a dilemma. Do you submit the pack inside the cardboard box and do they even holder it inside the box? I like having the pack in the original box.
<< <i>
<< <i>"1971 (30 cards): $500
1970 (33 cards): $500"
legit 1970 cellos are def. easier to find than 1971 cellos so I would bump does down to $350-400 and 1971 up to $600-700.
Last time I looked there were 28 PSA graded 1970 cellos and only 5 graded 1971 cellos.
John
Edit to add, I know that 2 of the 1970 cellos mentioned above have been opened. >>
If I ever decide to grade my packs that will leave me with a dilemma. Do you submit the pack inside the cardboard box and do they even holder it inside the box? I like having the pack in the original box. >>
PSA will not include the box when grading 1970-72 cellos.
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>... all this talk about boxes and packages ... yikes! >>
Gemint, I agree with you that the early 70s jumbo cellos would like much better with the box, but I guess PSA can't justify the price for the bigger holders needed. I really wish they grade rack packs, but it is what it is.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>I offered some average prices for racks in a previous post. Here's some average market prices for cellos from the 70s. For packs from 1973 and earlier, the series will affect value, for example, a series 5 pack in 1973 will be worth a premium over a series 4 pack. Cello condition (no splits or tears) is also a factor. Topps produced ONLY jumbo cellos from 1970 through 1972. Those grocery cellos you see up for sale on ebay are bogus. For those years, cellos were housed in an outer cardboard box---green in 1970 (no gum either in 1970 packs), and blue in 1971 and 1972. 1970 cellos contained 33 cards. 1971 cellos contained 30 cards and 1972 packs 27 cards, if memory serves me correctly (the 1972 box did not list the card count). I've noted the card count for other years on the list as well. The prices I've listed are approximate, imo..
1979 (18 cards): $15
1978 (21 cards): $25
1977 (18 cards): $40
1976 (18 cards): $75
1975 (18 cards): $85
1974 (22 cards): $150
1973 (27 cards): $200
1972 (27 cards): $350
1971 (30 cards): $500
1970 (33 cards): $500 >>
Great information here. Thanks for helping a novice baseball card collector learn something!
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>I have a 1974 rack pack with the Yogi Berra manager card on top which is pretty cool too. >>
That is a great rack pack to have. I agree the 74 Yogi is
Thanks!!!
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Too bad the Kranepool was not on the front! >>
At least he's in there though. I think Seaver is in there too.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I just can't pass up these 1975 rack packs. I think I need to go to rehab or something.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
First a few graded cellos. You might not be able to tell from the scan but Carlton is showing on the back of the Ripken cello pack.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
The last one shown I had to buy as I thought of Gumbyfan when I saw it.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Love seeing your recent finds and buys. You are building one heck of a collection.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
Very nice pickups!
I'm partial to the Morris pack and the Molitor pack appears to "not" have that pesky print smudge around the "rookie" word - very nice.
Thanx for sharing.
<< <i>I'm partial to the Morris pack and the Molitor pack appears to "not" have that pesky print smudge around the "rookie" word - very nice. >>
You are right Mike, the Molitor cello pack is free of the print smudge which is why I had to have it. Unfortunately, the 1978 rack I picked up does have the print smudge but these are hard to come across so I couldn't pass it up. I'd like to think the other 1978 rack pack with Molitor on the back has no print smudge on it.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Can I be a prince too?
Preferably, The Prince of Zamunda please and thank you.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Unfortunately, Norman's (RIP) collection sale was awesome to see and play with, but it was a big mistake on many levels.
That's all, Mug fine, very fine, thanks for asking.
I did see those PSA group pack grades... Well done boys! I did lovelove to see cpamike get a PSA 9 on the 78 Ryan cello I had to beg him to buy.
It is unfortunate that Doug is scared of NYC and we have not met yet.
NYC hug a Mug-athon soon at Brother Jimmy's please.
<< <i>I did lovelove to see cpamike get a PSA 9 on the 78 Ryan cello I had to beg him to buy.
It is unfortunate that Doug is scared of NYC and we have not met yet.
NYC hug a Mug-athon soon at Brother Jimmy's please. >>
Mugster is right, but I'm glad he was persuasive in talking me into taking that 78 Ryan cello off his hands.
After October 15th when things settle down for me at work, I'll grab Doug and we'll meet up with you in the big city.
As far as titles, I thought you were the crown prince of packs.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
I'm with you. I could keep PSA busy for months with all the rack packs I've accumulated and would like to get graded.
Don't worry, you didn't miss an auction. I got the 78 Molitor racks in an off eBay deal after I bought some 1975 rack packs from the seller on eBay. Once it hits the bay, it's open season on racks like these.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
i forgive you
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>Mike as always good stuff. You must have a man crush on Schmidt and Brett.
I also have one on Seaver, but who's counting.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>Mike as always good stuff. You must have a man crush on Schmidt and Brett.
Mike is deeper than most. He's able to look past the fact that Brett sh$ts himself twice a year.
<< <i>Mike is deeper than most. He's able to look past the fact that Brett sh$ts himself twice a year. >>
Everytime i watch that, I laugh hysterically.