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Federal Register: April 18, 2011 (Volume 76, Number 74)
Notices
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From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access wais.access.gpo.gov
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DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
United States Mint
Notice Announcing the Price of the 2010 America the Beautiful
Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated CoinsTM
ACTION: Notice.
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SUMMARY: The United States Mint is announcing the price of the 2010
America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated
CoinsTM.
In accordance with 31 U.S.C. 5112(u) & 9701(b), the United States
Mint 2010 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated
CoinsTM will be priced at $279.95.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: B.B. Craig, Associate Director for
Sales and Marketing; United States Mint; 801 9th Street, NW.;
Washington, DC 20220; or call 202-354-7500.
Authority: 31 U.S.C. 5111, 5112, & 9701.
Dated: April 11, 2011.
Richard A. Peterson,
Acting Director, United States Mint.
FR Doc. 2011-9246 Filed 4-15-11; 8:45 am
BILLING CODE 4810-02-P
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An As Yet Unmentioned Storage Option for the 5oz Silver Coins -- Plus a Potential NT(?) Option
I talked with a mint sales person today who said someone brought in some silver 5oz coins looking for something to put them in.
He sold them:
Deluxe Blue Presentation Case for 3" Medal (022) $8.00
He said it was a perfect fit, but doesn't think they will fit the capsules and coin, just the coin fits in.
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It's official.
Yellowstone is on the mint schedule for 5/17/2011. Prepare your ordering systems.
Numismatic News said the Mint Announced on May 4 that Yellowstone goes on sale May 17 >>
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US Mint Catalog Page Link w/ Poor Picture
Ordering Limits:
A limit of one (1) coin per household is in effect for the first week of this product’s release. At the end of this period, the United States Mint will re-evaluate this limit and either extend, adjust or remove it.
Mintage Limits:
The 2010 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin - Hot Springs National Park - is limited to a total of 27,000 coins.
Program Information:
These are special collector versions of those issued through the United States Mint America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coin™ Program and are available in limited mintages -- so don't miss out!
These three inch, five-ounce, .999 fine silver bullion coins replicate each of the designs featured on the United States Mint America the Beautiful Quarters Program® Coins, which are authorized by Public Law 110-456. The United States Mint will issue 56 quarter-dollar coins featuring designs depicting national parks and other national sites as part of this program. Five America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coins will be minted and released annually in the order in which the honored site was first established as a national site, with the final coin issued in 2021.
Purchasing Information:
If paying by credit card, please be sure your credit card information remains current to avoid any delays in processing your order. If your credit card expires by the time of shipment, your order will be cancelled. To update your credit card information after an order has been placed, you must call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468).
To ensure that all members of the public have fair and equal access to United States Mint products, any order placed prior to the official on-sale date and time of April 28, 2011, at 12:00 Noon (ET) shall not be deemed accepted by the United States Mint and will not be honored.
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Pricing for Numismatic Hot Springs 5 oz. Silver Coin
The US Mint has provided pricing information on the upcoming Hot Springs 5 Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin. This is the first of the numismatic or collector versions of the America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coins.
The price is set at $279.95. The Mint cautions that as with all products containing precious metals, the price is subject to potential change.
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Thanks to CaptHenway's Eagle eyes and post on page 15:
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Here is [L=a PR from the Mint]http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/index.cfm?action=press_release&ID=1182">Updated News from Mint News Blog, Hot Springs Numis-puck out April 28th where they are mentioned
The maximum mintage for these collector versions is set at 135,000 units-27,000 units for each of the five 2010 coins.
The numismatic version will bear the "P" mint mark of the United States Mint at Philadelphia.
The numismatic coins are being produced under authority 31 U.S.C. §5111(a) (3), which provides the Secretary of the Treasury with broad authority to design, produce and sell numismatic items.
at the bottom of this NN article the finish is explained.
Collector versions will be sold directly to collectors by the Mint in the first quarter of 2011. Mintages for them will be similar at 27,000 for each design, but the Mint will set the issue price.
The numismatic versions will not be proof, but have a surface that is vapor blasted after they are struck.
This, the Mint said, is the same finish used on its 3-inch bronze medals.
It further explained that the machine “uses a water vapor and ceramic media mix. It is similar to sand blasting but instead of using dry compressed air, it uses a compressed wet vapor. The finish is applied to the coin after striking and not to the die. This will provide a consistent coin-to-coin finish.”
At the bottom of this NN article it says February
But a note to collectors. A numismatic version of the coins will be available in February.
a Pre-Poll Pre-Thread to ask about how the mint should release these.
All on one day, or on different days?
{Pre-Poll, II} AFTER the 2010 release, Should the Mint Make the NumisPucks a Subscription?
I'm not asking for the 2010 Numimatic Park 5oz coins
But for 2011 and on, should the mint set up the National Park 5oz Silver coins on a subscription service?
Notices
Page 21802
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access wais.access.gpo.gov
DOCID:fr18ap11-127
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
United States Mint
Notice Announcing the Price of the 2010 America the Beautiful
Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated CoinsTM
ACTION: Notice.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
SUMMARY: The United States Mint is announcing the price of the 2010
America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated
CoinsTM.
In accordance with 31 U.S.C. 5112(u) & 9701(b), the United States
Mint 2010 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated
CoinsTM will be priced at $279.95.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: B.B. Craig, Associate Director for
Sales and Marketing; United States Mint; 801 9th Street, NW.;
Washington, DC 20220; or call 202-354-7500.
Authority: 31 U.S.C. 5111, 5112, & 9701.
Dated: April 11, 2011.
Richard A. Peterson,
Acting Director, United States Mint.
FR Doc. 2011-9246 Filed 4-15-11; 8:45 am
BILLING CODE 4810-02-P
==================================================
An As Yet Unmentioned Storage Option for the 5oz Silver Coins -- Plus a Potential NT(?) Option
I talked with a mint sales person today who said someone brought in some silver 5oz coins looking for something to put them in.
He sold them:
Deluxe Blue Presentation Case for 3" Medal (022) $8.00
He said it was a perfect fit, but doesn't think they will fit the capsules and coin, just the coin fits in.
==================================================
It's official.
Yellowstone is on the mint schedule for 5/17/2011. Prepare your ordering systems.
Numismatic News said the Mint Announced on May 4 that Yellowstone goes on sale May 17 >>
==================================================
US Mint Catalog Page Link w/ Poor Picture
Ordering Limits:
A limit of one (1) coin per household is in effect for the first week of this product’s release. At the end of this period, the United States Mint will re-evaluate this limit and either extend, adjust or remove it.
Mintage Limits:
The 2010 America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin - Hot Springs National Park - is limited to a total of 27,000 coins.
Program Information:
These are special collector versions of those issued through the United States Mint America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coin™ Program and are available in limited mintages -- so don't miss out!
These three inch, five-ounce, .999 fine silver bullion coins replicate each of the designs featured on the United States Mint America the Beautiful Quarters Program® Coins, which are authorized by Public Law 110-456. The United States Mint will issue 56 quarter-dollar coins featuring designs depicting national parks and other national sites as part of this program. Five America the Beautiful Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coins will be minted and released annually in the order in which the honored site was first established as a national site, with the final coin issued in 2021.
Purchasing Information:
If paying by credit card, please be sure your credit card information remains current to avoid any delays in processing your order. If your credit card expires by the time of shipment, your order will be cancelled. To update your credit card information after an order has been placed, you must call 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468).
To ensure that all members of the public have fair and equal access to United States Mint products, any order placed prior to the official on-sale date and time of April 28, 2011, at 12:00 Noon (ET) shall not be deemed accepted by the United States Mint and will not be honored.
==================================================
Pricing for Numismatic Hot Springs 5 oz. Silver Coin
The US Mint has provided pricing information on the upcoming Hot Springs 5 Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin. This is the first of the numismatic or collector versions of the America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coins.
The price is set at $279.95. The Mint cautions that as with all products containing precious metals, the price is subject to potential change.
==================================================
Thanks to CaptHenway's Eagle eyes and post on page 15:
==================================================
Here is [L=a PR from the Mint]http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/index.cfm?action=press_release&ID=1182">Updated News from Mint News Blog, Hot Springs Numis-puck out April 28th where they are mentioned
The maximum mintage for these collector versions is set at 135,000 units-27,000 units for each of the five 2010 coins.
The numismatic version will bear the "P" mint mark of the United States Mint at Philadelphia.
The numismatic coins are being produced under authority 31 U.S.C. §5111(a) (3), which provides the Secretary of the Treasury with broad authority to design, produce and sell numismatic items.
at the bottom of this NN article the finish is explained.
Collector versions will be sold directly to collectors by the Mint in the first quarter of 2011. Mintages for them will be similar at 27,000 for each design, but the Mint will set the issue price.
The numismatic versions will not be proof, but have a surface that is vapor blasted after they are struck.
This, the Mint said, is the same finish used on its 3-inch bronze medals.
It further explained that the machine “uses a water vapor and ceramic media mix. It is similar to sand blasting but instead of using dry compressed air, it uses a compressed wet vapor. The finish is applied to the coin after striking and not to the die. This will provide a consistent coin-to-coin finish.”
At the bottom of this NN article it says February
But a note to collectors. A numismatic version of the coins will be available in February.
a Pre-Poll Pre-Thread to ask about how the mint should release these.
All on one day, or on different days?
{Pre-Poll, II} AFTER the 2010 release, Should the Mint Make the NumisPucks a Subscription?
I'm not asking for the 2010 Numimatic Park 5oz coins
But for 2011 and on, should the mint set up the National Park 5oz Silver coins on a subscription service?
Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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this whole AP fiasco is just too much...but there are 9 outlets....
just imagine the funnel to one outlet they are creating
VIRTUAL WAITING ROOM.....take a lesson from the MLB ticket sales USM....
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<< <i>Maybe we should come up with some good recommendations for the mint on how to sell these. How about a presale the day before they go on sale to the public to mint customers for the past five years
I like this idea
<< <i>i wonder if they plan on increasing the number of phone lines and get more dedicated server space....
this whole AP fiasco is just too much...but there are 9 outlets....
just imagine the funnel to one outlet they are creating
VIRTUAL WAITING ROOM.....take a lesson from the MLB ticket sales USM.... >>
Most of those 9 outlest were never set up to handle volume. At least the Mint is.
<< <i>
<< <i>Maybe we should come up with some good recommendations for the mint on how to sell these. How about a presale the day before they go on sale to the public to mint customers for the past five years
I like this idea
<< <i>Maybe we should come up with some good recommendations for the mint on how to sell these. How about a presale the day before they go on sale to the public to mint customers for the past five years
Walmart.
Most of those 9 outlest were never set up to handle volume. At least the Mint is. >>
trust me....they are not set up for the avalanche that awaits when these go on sale....
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Adds a touch of class!
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<< <i>I like the............... "**LQQK!**"
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Adds a touch of class!
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MsM trying to lure the flippers away from the other thread.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
but we're free to speculate!
"I was reading the front page Jan. 4-11 NN article "Public waits for 5 oz coins."
The final sentence of the article, on P.20 reads: "A numismatic version of the coins will be available in February." Feb. sounds good to me!! What a day it will be when they go on sale. What's the prediction for sell out time for those??"
<< <i>Raufus reported in the other thread:
"I was reading the front page Jan. 4-11 NN article "Public waits for 5 oz coins."
The final sentence of the article, on P.20 reads: "A numismatic version of the coins will be available in February." Feb. sounds good to me!! What a day it will be when they go on sale. What's the prediction for sell out time for those??" >>
Before one can utter the word PUCK.
Coinfame,Kaelasdad,Type2,UNLVino,MICHAELDIXON
Justacommeman,tydye,78saen,123cents,blue62vette,Segoja,Nibanny
<< <i>I like the............... "**LQQK!**"
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Adds a touch of class!
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& thanks for the heads up MsM
<< <i>****The Official, Definitive, and Essential**** Everything to do with the America the Beautiful 5oz Coin Thread >>
I like it
<< <i>I'm just going to change the title of my thread to
<< <i>****The Official, Definitive, and Essential**** Everything to do with the America the Beautiful 5oz Coin Thread >>
I like it >>
Yours should be: "The Bullion Pucks: Gouging, Cherrypicking, Lies and Backdoor Dealings"!
Can someone also link the the recent CW article which called into question The Mint's authority to issue these? It is an important article. I made specific reference to it in the monster puck thread but don't have time to look now.
Has the Mint established the pricing? no.
Has the Mint told anyone whether there will be a HH limit? no.
Does anyone know what the rules for ordering a set will be? no.
Situation normal - full speed ahead!!!
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>So, has the Mint set the release date? no.
Has the Mint established the pricing? no.
Has the Mint told anyone whether there will be a HH limit? no.
Does anyone know what the rules for ordering a set will be? no.
Situation normal - full speed ahead!!! >>
Hey, they gave a whole six days heads up on the bullion hockey pucks. Why should the collector coins be any different???
TD
<< <i>I'm at work w/only a minute to reply...
Can someone also link the the recent CW article which called into question The Mint's authority to issue these? It is an important article. I made specific reference to it in the monster puck thread but don't have time to look now. >>
It was the December 27 edition, page 68.
<< <i>Thanks!! Will it even be issued at all??? >>
It's doubtful ... all those pucks will end up in the melting pot.
Unless recent legislation changed the original law...
A) shall become available for sale no sooner than
the first day of the calendar year in which the
circulating quarter dollar of which such bullion coin is
a duplicate is issued; and
``(B) may only be available for sale during the year
in which such circulating quarter dollar is issued.
But are they considered bullion coins if they have a Mint Mark? With a Mint Mark, they are now a collectors version & can be issued I suppose.
Somewhere in that mishmass of gobbldygook of promulgated garp, I believe that there is a reference which states that the Mint Director has some discretionary power to issue various varieties of the coins that get authorized.
Unfortunately, there is no current Mint Director (unless you count Moy, but he may be gone by now).
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Will it even be issued at all???
Somewhere in that mishmass of gobbldygook of promulgated garp, I believe that there is a reference which states that the Mint Director has some discretionary power to issue various varieties of the coins that get authorized.
Unfortunately, there is no current Mint Director (unless you count Moy, but he may be gone by now). >>
True...but the alleged bullion must be magically converted to a numismatic coin with a Mint Mark in order for that to happen.
I suppose HSN will now entice the rest of their employees to sign up with the Mint and so will the "profiteer" dealers. Still a no win situation for J6P. Unfortunately, that's reality...If you don't learn to "play the game", you're left out in the cold.
Mint's Product Schedule
<< <i>The hockey pucks have been added to the Mint's product schedule, but the date is TBD. The important thing, though, is that the coins are listed individually, meaning they will be sold individually.
Mint's Product Schedule >>
Five wonderful days of trying to buy from the Mint.
Will they spread it out over 5 weeks, 5 months or 5 days?
<< <i>I'm at work w/only a minute to reply...
Can someone also link the the recent CW article which called into question The Mint's authority to issue these? It is an important article. I made specific reference to it in the monster puck thread but don't have time to look now. >>
the Mint's PR in the OP on page one has this:
The numismatic coins are being produced under authority 31 U.S.C. §5111(a) (3), which provides the Secretary of the Treasury with broad authority to design, produce and sell numismatic items.
<< <i>I suppose Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon will be the first to sell out. Any ideas? >>
I'm betting on Yellowstone and Mt. Hood selling first, followed by Yosemite, Grand Canyon and the Restroom.
....with selling prices of $229 ea. or $1145 for all five. After all of the price gouging talk, the mint probably won't charge craploads for these. But with the nicer finish and shiny presentation box they'll go for a nice premium.
From a steadfast follower of this series!
<< <i>36 hours and their servers will be noticably busy the entire time. >>
Way off, I'm guessing based on the past less than 4 hours...GONE!! I wouldn't take a nap when these go on sale. That puts it at around 9 orders per second. The individual sales will likely slow things down a bit.
<< <i>36 hours and their servers will be noticably busy the entire time. >>
<< <i>What makes any of you think that these will be offered on the same day? >>
They may not, but regardless based on past sellouts on first time offerings I stik by my estimate. They did sellout 80,000 1/2 ounce spouse coins IIRC in 8 hours. These will be way cheaper, and the demand is a certainty.
<< <i>
<< <i>I suppose Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon will be the first to sell out. Any ideas? >>
I'm betting on Yellowstone and Mt. Hood selling first, followed by Yosemite, Grand Canyon and the Restroom.
....with selling prices of $229 ea. or $1145 for all five. After all of the price gouging talk, the mint probably won't charge craploads for these. But with the nicer finish and shiny presentation box they'll go for a nice premium. >>
Having had a set of the BU's in hand, I was most impressed by the Grand Canyon coin. If I were to only get one of the collector coins, that would be my choice.
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HOWEVER, (and you knew there was a "BUT" coming, didn't you?) the big question at this time is how will they look after they are sandblasted? The intricate detail that makes the Grand Canyon coin look so cool may come out looking like mud. The river at the bottom of the canyon may become indistinguishable from the rocks around it.
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I await with worms in my mouth (baited breath) the official Mint publicity pictures.
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TD
<< <i>What makes any of you think that these will be offered on the same day? >>
Selling them one a day for five days would require creative marketing skills.
TD
I knew it would happen.