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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭
    Seems Fidelity made their decsion to sell these. Unlike the other APs. The mint needs to put up a list of those APs that accepted their allotment.


  • << <i>Seems Fidelity made their decsion to sell these. Unlike the other APs. The mint needs to put a list of those APs that accepted their allotment. >>



    If I read the latest Mint guidelines the AP's have until the 20th to order their pucks. After that they will be released to those who did order them.

    So....the list of AP's selling them probably won't be final until after the 20th....
  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    I called Fidelitrade @ 845a cst and talked to Linda. After getting on the list, I asked how many people are on the list, she said, "Over two hundred, but there will be plenty", which I took to mean referring to Fidelitrade's expected supply of ATB pucks. So, we'll see.
  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 968 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I called Fidelitrade @ 845a cst and talked to Linda. After getting on the list, I asked how many people are on the list, she said, "Over two hundred, but there will be plenty", which I took to mean referring to Fidelitrade's expected supply of ATB pucks. So, we'll see. >>



    Any idea of payment methods they are accepting?
  • On their website they accept checks (personal/cashier's) and bank wire....I did not see CC listed
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wakey, wakey, rise and shine!!!

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Time for another cup of Java. Still no email from APMEX.
    There is one seller on eBay who obviously did not "get the word." Already sold 8 sets at similar prices.

    eBay link
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  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    Fidelitrade,, what is the price of a set?
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 5,872 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Fidelitrade,, what is the price of a set? >>



    Safe to assume they will charge the max allowed.
  • BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    spot + 9.95 + 10% + Reasonable Shipping and handling fee
    Since the mint is not specifying the "Reasonable shipping and handling fee"....we've seen what AP's think is reasonable.
    So for them....$500 s/h
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>spot + 9.95 + 10% + Reasonable Shipping and handling fee
    Since the mint is not specifying the "Reasonable shipping and handling fee"....we've seen what AP's think is reasonable.
    So for them....$500 s/h >>



    Is that so ... how about letting us know which AP charged that for s&h.
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  • BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    I meant their "reasonable" markup on the bullion
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  • Just spoke with Linda at Fidelitrade, she said they expect to have the coins in hand on Monday and will start accepting orders then.

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  • gyromacgyromac Posts: 213 ✭✭
    While all these other bullion companies are accepting orders and taking numbers....the silence out of APMEX makes you wonder....they were so quick to jump in the saddle on Dec 3rd ....but are still waiting for an "official press release from USM"???? at least this is what i was told....
  • MrBearMrBear Posts: 379 ✭✭✭


    << <i>While all these other bullion companies are accepting orders and taking numbers....the silence out of APMEX makes you wonder....they were so quick to jump in the saddle on Dec 3rd ....but are still waiting for an "official press release from USM"???? at least this is what i was told.... >>



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  • Classof67Classof67 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭
    On the list at Fidelitrade!image
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  • BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    No reason for apmex to be in a hurry since there is no price war or strategic sales efforts to worry about. They know they are going to get their allotment, they know how much they are going to charge for them, they know they will sell out...they can do it whenever they get ready.
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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What the heck, I'm on the list @ Fidel. I'm prolly #3001!
  • PapiPapi Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    Call all the congressmen/women that co-sponsored this bill H.R. 6184, back in 2008, and tell them to amend the legislation and extend the time limits placed on the mint for sale/production/distribution of these coins.

    Here's the numbers of the representatives

    Michael Castle; DE Phone: 202-225-4165

    Charles Gonzales; TX Phone: 202-225-3236

    Raul Grijalva; AZ Phone: 202-225-2435

    Luis Gutierrez; IL Phone: 202-225-8203

    Carolyn Maloney; NY Phone: 202-225-7944

    Joe Sestak; PA Phone: 202-225-2011

    Betty Sutton; OH Phone: 202-225-3401





  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone know where one can obtain quality flips for these 5 oz pieces?
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  • GeomanGeoman Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭
    APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........

    Exactly! I mailed a business check for 2 sets a couple of weeks ago. I also checked my bank account online and it was deposited by APMEX almost 2 weeks ago. With the new limits/restrictions imposed by the US Mint, I called APMEX asking how they are going to work that, if I would be getting a refund check from them for the difference, etc. They didn't know anything yet!! All they told me was they would be releasing a statement sometime this week regarding the ATB 5-oz coins. I mentioned the fact that I am losing out in interest, etc on my money while they hold it until they make a decision. They didn't seem to care.

    If anyone knows more about how they are going to handle order limits, refunds, etc. please post it. Thanks!
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,195 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Call all the congressmen/women that co-sponsored this bill H.R. 6184, back in 2008, and tell them to amend the legislation and extend the time limits placed on the mint for sale/production/distribution of these coins.

    Here's the numbers of the representatives

    Michael Castle; DE Phone: 202-225-4165

    Charles Gonzales; TX Phone: 202-225-3236

    Raul Grijalva; AZ Phone: 202-225-2435

    Luis Gutierrez; IL Phone: 202-225-8203

    Carolyn Maloney; NY Phone: 202-225-7944

    Joe Sestak; PA Phone: 202-225-2011

    Betty Sutton; OH Phone: 202-225-3401 >>



    ...... could we get some 2009 Silver American Eagle Proof coins made, while they're at it ?

    HE>I



  • << <i>APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........

    Exactly! I mailed a business check for 2 sets a couple of weeks ago. I also checked my bank account online and it was deposited by APMEX almost 2 weeks ago. With the new limits/restrictions imposed by the US Mint, I called APMEX asking how they are going to work that, if I would be getting a refund check from them for the difference, etc. They didn't know anything yet!! All they told me was they would be releasing a statement sometime this week regarding the ATB 5-oz coins. I mentioned the fact that I am losing out in interest, etc on my money while they hold it until they make a decision. They didn't seem to care.

    If anyone knows more about how they are going to handle order limits, refunds, etc. please post it. Thanks! >>



    The interest you're losing is negligible. (2 or 3 bucks on a single set?) When all the orders are added up though, their float can add up quickly.


  • << <i>APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........
    >>



    Yes, I am also quite disappointed by the action (or inaction) they took over the last twelve days.
    It is a second strike to me.
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    << <i>APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........
    >>



    Yes, I am also quite disappointed by the action (or inaction) they took over the last twelve days.
    It is a second strike to me. >>



    Agreed. Considering they've actually charged us for the coins, it seems that it's only right to keep us out of the dark at least a little.
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  • SoundPointSoundPoint Posts: 255 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........
    >>



    Yes, I am also quite disappointed by the action (or inaction) they took over the last twelve days.
    It is a second strike to me. >>



    Agreed. Considering they've actually charged us for the coins, it seems that it's only right to keep us out of the dark at least a little. >>



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    AMPEX should never have charged for the coins until they shipped them to the buyers.
  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........

    Exactly! I mailed a business check for 2 sets a couple of weeks ago. I also checked my bank account online and it was deposited by APMEX almost 2 weeks ago. With the new limits/restrictions imposed by the US Mint, I called APMEX asking how they are going to work that, if I would be getting a refund check from them for the difference, etc. They didn't know anything yet!! All they told me was they would be releasing a statement sometime this week regarding the ATB 5-oz coins. I mentioned the fact that I am losing out in interest, etc on my money while they hold it until they make a decision. They didn't seem to care.

    If anyone knows more about how they are going to handle order limits, refunds, etc. please post it. Thanks! >>



    The interest you're losing is negligible. (2 or 3 bucks on a single set?) When all the orders are added up though, their float can add up quickly. >>



    Actually I think what Geoman is really losing is the loss of the use of his money. I'm pretty sure while APMEX holds his money, he could have reinvested in other inventory which could have been sold. Anyone that owns a retail shop will tell you the opportunity to buy and sell bullion is pretty big and with a chunk of available cash tied up for no reason, he is losing money everyday. Opportunity cost, not interest earned by a loss in my mind.

    Yes, I agree with you on the float. Nice little wind fall for them.
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  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 968 ✭✭✭✭
    Based on a conversation I had with their customer service department, I have a feeling their CEO is out this week.
  • If they didn't get our money, how long would they hold our place in line? 24 Hours??????????
  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Linda's a popular gal at Fidelitrade...I also filled out their on-line form...just because.
  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fidelitrade also indicated to me that they would PROBABLY have a set up to accept credit cards for these orders...PROBABLY.
  • 1tommy1tommy Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • << <i>Time for another cup of Java. Still no email from APMEX.
    There is one seller on eBay who obviously did not "get the word." Already sold 8 sets at similar prices.

    eBay link >>




    As of a couple of days ago I had the sets sold by this seller at 23!!!!!

    ...and he is still selling??????WTF??????

    Someone is gonna disappear soon with some significant cash in his pockets
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just shot of an email to APMEX Attn: Michael Haynes, relaying my concern over their silence. If he gets enough feedback, maybe they'll get of the pot.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like the USMint issued the APs a new stipulation....

    "The APs may only sell these to the American public" is what I was just told. So, if you are calling from Canada/Japan/Timbuktu, you will have to get these on the secondary market....

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like the USMint issued the APs a new stipulation....

    "The APs may only sell these to the American public" is what I was just told. So, if you are calling from Canada/Japan/Timbuktu, you will have to get these on the secondary market.... >>



    Socialism at it's finest. image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."


  • << <i>

    << <i>Time for another cup of Java. Still no email from APMEX.
    There is one seller on eBay who obviously did not "get the word." Already sold 8 sets at similar prices.

    eBay link >>




    As of a couple of days ago I had the sets sold by this seller at 23!!!!!

    ...and he is still selling??????WTF??????

    Someone is gonna disappear soon with some significant cash in his pockets >>



    I just actually read the listing.....get this:

    I HAVE SECURED MY ORDERS WITH MY SUPPLIER AND AS SOON I GET THEM,THEY WILL SHIP OUT ASAP IN THE ORDER THEY HAVE BEEN BOUGHT !!

    So his "supplier" can get him 25 or so sets????
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,358 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Sounds like the USMint issued the APs a new stipulation....

    "The APs may only sell these to the American public" is what I was just told. So, if you are calling from Canada/Japan/Timbuktu, you will have to get these on the secondary market.... >>



    Socialism at it's finest. image >>



    I actually don't mind something like this, for any country, if an issue is considered "hot".
    If I collected Korean coins, and they had a low mintage item, and it was 1 per, then I would be ok with Koreans getting it first.
    Same for Japan/China/Canada/etc.

    Particularly if it were for something "patriotic". As long as it is from a country's own national mint, then I don't see an issue.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like the USMint issued the APs a new stipulation....

    "The APs may only sell these to the American public" is what I was just told. So, if you are calling from Canada/Japan/Timbuktu, you will have to get these on the secondary market.... >>



    What is the source of this, please?
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,358 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Sounds like the USMint issued the APs a new stipulation....

    "The APs may only sell these to the American public" is what I was just told. So, if you are calling from Canada/Japan/Timbuktu, you will have to get these on the secondary market.... >>



    What is the source of this, please?
    TD >>




    Tom.....I'm not enough of a source for you on this? You don't think I would make it up, do you? image
    Linda, at Fidelitrade, told me they just got that one today.

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  • << <i>Sounds like the USMint issued the APs a new stipulation....

    "The APs may only sell these to the American public" is what I was just told. So, if you are calling from Canada/Japan/Timbuktu, you will have to get these on the secondary market.... >>



    The USM stipulations from last week only said "the public" not "the American public." If there's a new press release, please post the link!

    And besides, there are some APs that are located abroad. Though whether they're carrying the coins or not is an entirely different story.
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  • I just got on the list with fidelitrade. Linda was nice but overwhelmed. She said there was around 700-800 on the list already........
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  • << <i>I just got on the list with fidelitrade. Linda was nice but overwhelmed. She said there was around 700-800 on the list already........ >>



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  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>APMEX is holding a lot of money in payments for multiple sets. They need to do something soon........

    Exactly! I mailed a business check for 2 sets a couple of weeks ago. I also checked my bank account online and it was deposited by APMEX almost 2 weeks ago. With the new limits/restrictions imposed by the US Mint, I called APMEX asking how they are going to work that, if I would be getting a refund check from them for the difference, etc. They didn't know anything yet!! All they told me was they would be releasing a statement sometime this week regarding the ATB 5-oz coins. I mentioned the fact that I am losing out in interest, etc on my money while they hold it until they make a decision. They didn't seem to care.

    If anyone knows more about how they are going to handle order limits, refunds, etc. please post it. Thanks! >>



    The interest you're losing is negligible. (2 or 3 bucks on a single set?) When all the orders are added up though, their float can add up quickly. >>



    Actually I think what Geoman is really losing is the loss of the use of his money. I'm pretty sure while APMEX holds his money, he could have reinvested in other inventory which could have been sold. Anyone that owns a retail shop will tell you the opportunity to buy and sell bullion is pretty big and with a chunk of available cash tied up for no reason, he is losing money everyday. Opportunity cost, not interest earned by a loss in my mind.

    Yes, I agree with you on the float. Nice little wind fall for them. >>



    I understand opportunity cost, but if you're planning on holding the set and not flipping it, then there is no loss.


  • << <i>Based on a conversation I had with their customer service department, I have a feeling their CEO is out this week. >>



    He might be out for longer than a week if he was the person that made the decision to presell at 1400 a set. By not waiting until the sets were in hand, somone cost ampex and other APs a fortune when the mint pullled the coins and set new rules.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    APMEX just responded to an inquiry of my order.

    "We received the communication from the US Mint last Thursday afternoon and we will issue a statement this week."
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭✭
    Last Thursday is when everyone heard the revised conditions. There is a reason for the delay and I would guess actual delivery of the stock this time image

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Based on a conversation I had with their customer service department, I have a feeling their CEO is out this week. >>



    He might be out for longer than a week if he was the person that made the decision to presell at 1400 a set. By not waiting until the sets were in hand, somone cost ampex and other APs a fortune when the mint pullled the coins and set new rules. >>



    You may be right, but the delicious irony is that the $1395 figure turned out to be less than everybody else made their initial offering at.
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  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Based on a conversation I had with their customer service department, I have a feeling their CEO is out this week. >>



    He might be out for longer than a week if he was the person that made the decision to presell at 1400 a set. By not waiting until the sets were in hand, somone cost ampex and other APs a fortune when the mint pullled the coins and set new rules. >>



    You may be right, but the delicious irony is that the $1395 figure turned out to be less than everybody else made their initial offering at.
    TD >>



    I did not know that Captain, I was only aware of AMPEX preselling and somone I had not heard off, Monaco? coins. Or were you talking about Ebay presales?
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
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