I think the mint is pulling a fast one......these are going to be a short run......I think........12-15,000 tops!
First they state delivery on the 12th, so all are on B/O when ordered, buy as many as you want, no restrictions, now some folks have cancel boxes and some don't, and it seems that none say Backordered......something is up!
I think the mint is pulling a fast one......these are going to be a short run......I think........12-15,000 tops!
First they state delivery on the 12th, so all are on B/O when ordered, buy as many as you want, no restrictions, now some folks have cancel boxes and some don't, and it seems that none say Backordered......something is up!
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It appears, that a short run is hopeful dreaming ... over 22,000 orders have already been placed. ( I realize that they are not all Buff orders, but even if only 60% were and with no order limit ... well, you get the idea.)
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Edited to add: Yep, just an update, I'm back on!
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A Big pass to me. Minted till the cows come home imho. The Mint saw the UHR sales......you don't think they see the profit potential here.............They aren't as dumb as you think, well not quite that dumb
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The downside is ~$300. The upside is (almost) unlimited. Seems like a no-brainer to me. >>
I take the opposite position, Gold could and probably will go back to the $300 - $500 range, thus the downside is $800. The upside is very limited as I doubt it will go much higher than it is now.
and the NGC proof 70's are listed for $1,585 ... yup the mint produced a ton of the proofs, otherwise they'd be going for $2,000+ ( I'm glad that I only purchased 1 )
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I don't agree that MCM's current prices indicate mintages-right before /after the 08W $50 closed at the mint I was buying NGC ms70's at MCM for around $1300.The prices start going up a few days after it becomes apparent that the mintage will be low.
Canceled my Mint order today, while I still had the chance. I'm convinced that the Mint has thousands of planchets available for this coin, otherwise it would have been a sell out by now.
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We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD
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if you believe gold has a new floor above 1000, there's not much risk in these at 1310-1360.
anyone pays 200 over for proof gold buff's (raw). so, your risk is about 100-150 per coin. in fact - no risk. send it back.
i think one REDICULOUS priced coin is the 1/2 oz 2008-W buffalo gold. WAAAAAY too big a mintage to support its current trading price. the 1oz 2008-W unc pricing is discounted comparitively to the 1 oz proof 08-W, another wacky relationship in pricing.
<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
Who'd you get word from? >>
I got the same email from the mint, I am a bulk purchase dealer. You can indeed get these for a 4% discount if you order at least $5000 worth at one time.
<< <i>I got the same email from the mint, I am a bulk purchase dealer. You can indeed get these for a 4% discount if you order at least $5000 worth at one time. >>
$5000 is only 4 coins?
Looks like adding them to bulk though will make the proof mintages soar even more. Maybe the mint will add proof silver eagles to bulk and proof platinum now.
PS I agree on the 2008 w buffalo, they will stay low mintage monsters.
<< <i>The Coin Vault has these listed in MS 70ER for $1799.00. OUCH! Check out their website. >>
This is NGC. I haven't seen any PCGS 2009 Buffalos on TV. Has anyone else? Traditionally the PCGS coins sell for more on TV so I would expect them to ask $2k or more for the MS70FS PCGS 2009 buffalo. --Jerry
As a collector I have my ounce Buffalo gold coin so I don't need another. I wish I had purchased the fractional pieces more as a collector than as a missed opportunity to make a killing, but maybe the mint will offer then again in the future.
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I had about 10 PCGS MS70 FS 2008 1/4 oz buffs ordered and paid for about the time the mint announced the end of the program and the tv dealer backed out of my order after waiting about 6 weeks. I am still sore about that.
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<< <i>I had about 10 PCGS MS70 FS 2008 1/4 oz buffs ordered and paid for about the time the mint announced the end of the program and the tv dealer backed out of my order after waiting about 6 weeks. I am still sore about that. >>
So do the TV guys all have fine print that a deal can be canceled at their discretion?
<< <i>I had about 10 PCGS MS70 FS 2008 1/4 oz buffs ordered and paid for about the time the mint announced the end of the program and the tv dealer backed out of my order after waiting about 6 weeks. I am still sore about that. >>
So do the TV guys all have fine print that a deal can be canceled at their discretion?
--Jerry >>
They gave me a sob story and a $500 credit and I let it slide. Still hurts a bit though when I see what they sell for today.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I bought my first one ounce 2009 buffalo gold proof. It going to hurt but really wanted this one. In stock and reserved and getting ready to ship from the mint.
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Order # as of 10:00 pm tonite....33312.
I think the mint is pulling a fast one......these are going to be a short run......I think........12-15,000 tops!
First they state delivery on the 12th, so all are on B/O when ordered, buy as many as you want, no restrictions, now some folks have cancel boxes and some don't, and it seems that none say Backordered......something is up!
Merchandise : 1360.00
Freight . . . : 4.95
Total . . : 1364.95
1. 2009 BUFFALO GOLD PROOF 1 OZ. (BA9)
Qty 1 @ $1360.00 - In stock.
<< <i>Order # as of 10:00 pm tonite....33312.
I think the mint is pulling a fast one......these are going to be a short run......I think........12-15,000 tops!
First they state delivery on the 12th, so all are on B/O when ordered, buy as many as you want, no restrictions, now some folks have cancel boxes and some don't, and it seems that none say Backordered......something is up!
It appears, that a short run is hopeful dreaming ... over 22,000 orders have already been placed. ( I realize that they are not all Buff orders, but even if only 60% were and with no order limit ... well, you get the idea.)
Less a couple thousand for other products in the mix.
I knew it would happen.
from my bankcard: 10/30/09 PENDING US MINT COIN SALES-DR $1364.95
from my other bankcard: 10/30/2009 9399 US MINT COIN SALES-DR $1,364.95
also no more "will be available to ship on" date on the mint item webpage
either they are all in stock, or what's in stock is all there are
we shall see
(l8-)>>
Miles
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Edited to add: Yep, just an update, I'm back on!
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you are the jury, you have to decide the final verdict. But if you're asking me, buy 48 of them.
The only way to make an economic system truly stable is to permit the free market to take over.
Don't try to guess what the Mint has up its sleeve, because you will end up wrong.
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If gold stays under $1050 and they don't sell out, the price will be $50 less next Thursday.
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The downside is ~$300. The upside is (almost) unlimited.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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<< <i>Forum members: Is there a final verdict "To Buy" or "Pass" on ordering the 2009 PF Gold Buffalo from the USM ? Thanks. >>
The downside is ~$300. The upside is (almost) unlimited.
Seems like a no-brainer to me. >>
I take the opposite position, Gold could and probably will go back to the $300 - $500 range, thus the downside is $800. The upside is very limited as I doubt it will go much higher than it is now.
<< <i>The Coin Vault has these listed in MS 70ER for $1799.00. OUCH! Check out their website. >>
Actually, they are listed for $1235
Remember, these do not carry the 'W' mintmark.
Pre-orders for the 2009-W proof.....Linky
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<< <i>The Coin Vault has these listed in MS 70ER for $1799.00. OUCH! Check out their website. >>
Actually, they are listed for $1235
Remember, these do not carry the 'W' mintmark.
Pre-orders for the 2009-W proof.....Linky >>
and the NGC proof 70's are listed for $1,585 ... yup the mint produced a ton of the proofs, otherwise they'd be going for $2,000+
( I'm glad that I only purchased 1 )
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD
<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
How good is your source? Is this straight from the USM?
<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
With the 'W' Mintmark??
Well, dealers usually do not buy this crap anyway right?
<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
The cats out of the bag.......glad I passed on this one. Bet they minted a billion of them so to speak.
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<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
The cats out of the bag.......glad I passed on this one. Bet they minted a billion of them so to speak. >>
I also have my doubts about a "limited" mintage for the scheduled proof plats for December .... "Caveat Emptor"
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<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
The cats out of the bag.......glad I passed on this one. Bet they minted a billion of them so to speak. >>
I also have my doubts about a "limited" mintage for the scheduled proof plats for December .... "Caveat Emptor" >>
Who said that there would be a "limited" mintage of the plat proofs?
anyone pays 200 over for proof gold buff's (raw). so, your risk is about 100-150 per coin. in fact - no risk. send it back.
i think one REDICULOUS priced coin is the 1/2 oz 2008-W buffalo gold. WAAAAAY too big a mintage to support its current trading price. the 1oz 2008-W unc pricing is discounted comparitively to the 1 oz proof 08-W, another wacky relationship in pricing.
<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
That's a helluva squeeze play on the loyalists
The Mint's standard operating procedure. You're surprised?
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
Who'd you get word from?
2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN 102,311 and selling
2009 AMERICAN BUFFALO GOLD PROOF $50 COIN 19,468 and selling
2009 AMERICAN BUFFALO GOLD MINT STATE $50 116,500 and selling
Sales report as of 11/1/2009.
2008 was a good year.......
Hope you did not flip them all........
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<< <i>We got word today that the Mint would be selling Proof gold Buffalos on its bulk dealer program, at effectively a 4% discount.
Of course, it did this after many of us had already ordered ours at full price.
TD >>
Who'd you get word from? >>
I got the same email from the mint, I am a bulk purchase dealer. You can indeed get these for a 4% discount if you order at least $5000 worth at one time.
Yes, Im glad I did not flip em' all from 2008; what a year!
2006 and 2008 were vintage times.....
Miles
<< <i>I got the same email from the mint, I am a bulk purchase dealer. You can indeed get these for a 4% discount if you order at least $5000 worth at one time. >>
$5000 is only 4 coins?
Looks like adding them to bulk though will make the proof mintages soar even more. Maybe the mint will add proof silver eagles to bulk and proof platinum now.
PS I agree on the 2008 w buffalo, they will stay low mintage monsters.
<< <i>The Coin Vault has these listed in MS 70ER for $1799.00. OUCH! Check out their website. >>
This is NGC. I haven't seen any PCGS 2009 Buffalos on TV. Has anyone else? Traditionally the PCGS coins sell for more on TV so I would expect them to ask $2k or more for the MS70FS PCGS 2009 buffalo. --Jerry
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Are you a collector, speculator, dealer, or just looking for an easy buck? --Jerry
<< <i>I had about 10 PCGS MS70 FS 2008 1/4 oz buffs ordered and paid for about the time the mint announced the end of the program and the tv dealer backed out of my order after waiting about 6 weeks. I am still sore about that. >>
So do the TV guys all have fine print that a deal can be canceled at their discretion?
--Jerry
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<< <i>I had about 10 PCGS MS70 FS 2008 1/4 oz buffs ordered and paid for about the time the mint announced the end of the program and the tv dealer backed out of my order after waiting about 6 weeks. I am still sore about that. >>
So do the TV guys all have fine print that a deal can be canceled at their discretion?
--Jerry >>
They gave me a sob story and a $500 credit and I let it slide. Still hurts a bit though when I see what they sell for today.
Box of 20
Box of 20
<< <i>Mintage so far... >>
Looks like the 2008-W one-ounce proof Tatanka will remain the king.