Take a breather folks...this thread is gettin' way old, already...
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
People should strive to say more with less. More content, less posts is the desire. I am guilty of this too. I am amazed the moderators have tolerated this stupid thread.
bochiman, unless you have a reading comprehension problem it should be plain who my PM challenge was to.
i admitted in that same reply that i went over the edge in a PM to a member, that member was you and the challenge is to soty27. it is all clear in the reply. you are free to make any cut/paste here of PM's i sent you if that will satisfy your evident need to fullfill whatever it may be that your agenda is. post the PM's and let the forum judge me as they will. just be certain to keep the order intact and to cut/paste your PM's to me, also. that is the "bochiman challenge" to you. while we're at it, why not have alll those come forward that i've sent "nasty PM's" to in the past and then we can just air all the laundry hanging on your line.
make no mistake about it, i attempted to be civil in this matter and i went over the edge in ONE PM TO YOU but will not back off if you insist on coming here to make an effort to discredit me for your own reasons. you have done this in the past with other members, it is well documented. perhaps the best thing to do is to just quit trying to stir things up as you have been.
<< <i>More to the point, you sure were assuming devious intent in your hypothetical >>
Actually, that was a sarcastic comment in response to the attitude I see expressed (way too often) that seems to imply that the morality bar should somehow be set higher for dealers than for collectors. Personally, I think it should be set at the same level for everyone.
<< <i>Do you get it now, or have I misunderstood you? >>
I believe you have misunderstood me.
"Specifically, the implied devious intent of the collector not to return to the store where they ripped off the dealer compared to the (presumed) devious intent of purchasing a 01-s quarter as scrap."
There was no implied devious intent on the part of the collector or ripoff of the dealer (as the dealer paid scrap for the coin and was paid scrap by the collector) and there was no devious intent on the part of the dealer, who, for totally undevious reasons, didn't inspect the coin closely when originally purchasing it. Nobody was trying to cheat anybody out of anything.
Let's try this again.
Scenario 1: Dealer pays scrap for a rare coin because he doesn't examine it at the time of purchase, and later recognizes its value. Scenario 2: Dealer pays scrap for a rare coin because he doesn't examine it at the time of purchase, sells it for scrap, and its value is later recognized by the collector who bought it.
In both cases, the original seller loses out, but in only scenario 1 is the individual who identifies (and gains the benefit) of the value of the "found" coin expected to be responsible for making the seller whole.
That's the best I can do to explain the intent of my original question- does it help or just make things worse? >>
It just makes things worse. Let's just drop it and get back to the discussions at hand....
...now what that is -- either it has something to do with PMs, or someone's cat -- I'm not really sure.
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
Keets, you are the master stirrer-upper here. You love snide little comments when you do them...you hate when others do them
As for trying to make you look bad...obviously, I don't have to worry about that...seems you handle that just fine on your own
Nice of you to FINALLY admit you went over the edge in the PM to me...of course, you couldn't man up to that earlier, could you? You left it at "a member" and couldn't bother to mention who.....you also can't be bothered to apologize for it, but that's ok, I expect nothing less from you. If your PMs were an "attempt to be civil", then I dread what it would be like if you weren't making the "attempt"
Now, let's see how much further you want to keep this going....after all, you love the attention
People should strive to say more with less. More content, less posts is the desire. I am guilty of this too. I am amazed the moderators have tolerated this stupid thread. >>
Ron, your depiction of events is that you were the cool, civil head and i just started spewing venom. go ahead and post my PM's or would you like for me to post mine?? then you can post yours and so on?? i'm up to it if you are. that's my challenge to you since you alluded to things to begin with in a different thread and then carried it here. why not just stop all the nah nah finger pointing and lay everything out?? that way the forum can judge for itself how we really are without each of us having to say anything else.
i'm not afraid, so i'll just start with the first PM i sent to you and i'll let you verify that it's accuarate and then you can post your reply. this might even be fun!!!!
keets Date Posted: Jul/24/2009 8:10 AM so if i understand you correctly, i shouldn't defend myself and what it's really about is my craving for attention??
well, i had hoped that bochiman would have responded in some fashion by now so that we could clear this matter. i will tell anyone concerned that i will be unable to reply to anything until later this evening, perhaps around 6:30PM and again near midnight.
i am surprised at the lack of a reply on the part of bochiman, i will check in later. perhaps someone could send him a PM since he's checked in since last night. he may not be aware of my "challenge" request .
I have followed only a small bit of this thread but I do feel it's a breach of netiquette to post PM's, even when challenged to do so. The PM stands for 'private message' ... right? If this thread has descended into throwing PM's around then you guys have probably gotten too much into it.
<< <i>I have followed only a small bit of this thread but I do feel it's a breach of netiquette to post PM's, even when challenged to do so. The PM stands for 'private message' ... right? If this thread has descended into throwing PM's around then you guys have probably gotten too much into it. >>
<< <i>I have followed only a small bit of this thread but I do feel it's a breach of netiquette to post PM's, even when challenged to do so. The PM stands for 'private message' ... right? If this thread has descended into throwing PM's around then you guys have probably gotten too much into it. >>
You are correct >>
Yep, and I'm just seeing this now as it is near the top of the page. Someone wants attention and is begging for it, but I have been involved enough on it and, while I was the one sent the nasty PMs, I too, feel it isn't good to just bandy them about, as tempting as it is.
So, sorry keets, if you can't do it, at least one of us will have to have enough class to just step back and looks like that will be me. Go monger for attention with others. Like I have told you, I laugh but also feel sorry for you. Hope you get the help you need
Ron, you're a typical loudmouth who always does the finger pointimg but isn't man enough to put up when challenged. you were the one who took it upon himself to bring the entire talk of the PM's between us to this thread and another, stating about how i send nasty PM's to anyone who doesn't agree with me. since you stated that more than once, several members have made unsolicited replies that such a thing never took place with PM's i sent them, that they were civil. also, soty27 backed off his boast that he was in the nasty PM crowd, simply because that was a bald-faced lie. you might also note that noone else has come forward to state that i sent them nasty PM's even though you stated that others have said as much to you and i challenged them to prove as much.
i'm just doing the same thing which started our exchange, defending myself against ridicule and untruth. i simply won't be bullied by someone who thinks he can say whatever he wants without any form of retaliation. the "sanctity of PM's" you want to be shielded by only pertains to what others send to you, not what you send to others. i'm only asking you to post what you sent to me. i seriously think you don't have the guts to do that, you're all bark and no bite, a typical bully on the internet playground. now you want to paint yourself as the bigger man who has enough class to let this die out?? what a joke. you brought the subject up in the first place. where was your "class" at then??
it's OK with me if you want to slink away and hope everything is forgotten. i'm sure some here will believe your line of BS, but i'm just as sure that others have you pegged and won't be fooled.
Not slinking keets, just tired of your attention hungering ways. You admitted you sent the nasty pm, you didn't apologize, which I never thought you would, after all, you think you are always right.
It's all about you, buddy, as you so often want it....thread after thread, edit after edit. You love the spotlight.
One of us has to man up, and since you can't quite seem to do it, and the boards really aren't the place for petty squabbles, which this is between us, imho, like I said, I will be the one to man up.
Sorry if that kind of irritates you and your need for attention. I'm sure you can go kick a dog or push an elder citizen to make yourself feel better, then you can post about it for more attention. Maybe make another "mock" poll just so you can poke fun at folks and get your attention fix
Yep...this thread reminds me of Anchorman also ...........MJ
Ron Burgundy: Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast. Champ Kind: It jumped up a notch. Ron Burgundy: It did, didn't it? Brick Tamland: Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart. Ron Burgundy: I saw that. Brick killed a guy. Did you throw a trident? Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident. Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
i actually feel refusing to state the things you PM'd is the safe thing to do, the face-saving thing to do, the way to "man up" and the way to show class. it's actually odd the way your thread replies follow the same pattern as your PM, but it doesn't surprise me.
i accept that my challenge will go un-met. i admit that i sent you a "nasty" PM. i wish you well in your forum participation. hopefully you can add some good topics for discussion in the future while i continue on my whorish ways, seeking attention and insulting at every chance.
Not sure why but this thread has now reminded me of a song from long ago...
...
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Forever let us hold our banners high, high, high, high
and now it's time to say good-bye
to all our family...
M...I...C ... see ya real soon
K..E...Y ... Why? because we love you
M...O...U...S...E...
...and not a creature was stirring...
...not even a mouse...
Would you be my neighbor?
Why can't we all just get along?
Th...Th...th...th...th...th...th...that's all folks...
(hey, if yaha can do it...then so can I )
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
Keets is just upset that there probably hasn't been too many other rips of key dates for melt that he could do lately. All he likes doing is taking shots at others and bragging about a rip of an old man who didn't know better....and thinking he would get a ton of pats on the back around here for the rip.
You're a nice enough guy, he probably figured he could just enjoy taking the shots at you and not get any response back.
wow!!!!! that's sort of like the habit you've taken up, coming into threads late and trying to take shots. i'd expect it from the Boch-meister, though, since you have demonstrated a low quality of class at this site almost since day one. and regarding this old thread and its content, you never rose to the smackdown-post-the-PM's-that-you-lied-about-and-couldn't-back-up-challenge so i've pretty much dismissed you and any feigned credibility you think you have. nice job of revisionist posting on the '01-S, BTW, it almost made me laugh.
as far as Feld, he's a big boy and can defend himself, he doesn't need a chump like you helping out.
"Okay boys, grab the shovels and meet me in the cemetery at midnight. Let's dig up another one!" My God, everyone. Give it a break! Handle your insults through the PM function, will ya? Will somebody take the high road? Sooner or later the moderator is just going to get tired of locking threads and just take this site down! Thanks.
Larry L.
Autism Awareness: There is no limit to the good you can do, if you don't care who gets the credit.
Lets see the Keet's Formula is arrived at using this formula:
Blue sheet-40% X80% ____________ 2
Seems all good.
This offer is then submitted, as a rectal suppository. It seems that using this formula, the old widow woman owed the dealer $11.40 That included the cost of letting her out the front door.
Even if this story was presented tongue in cheek the sad thing is there really are dealers this crooked still operating out there ripping people off, luckily the dealers in my area are honest whenever I've dealt with them.
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Yeah, but it only reached 200 posts because ksteelheader posted 100 by himself, LOL
Take a breather folks...this thread is gettin' way old, already...
Ksteel is about to post his addy and demand you come over to settle this.
<< <i>Careful...
Ksteel is about to post his addy and demand you come over to settle this. >>
Why would I do that? I've exchanged thoughtful PM's with both Ron and Al about this today. What have you done?
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<< <i>Careful...
Ksteel is about to post his addy and demand you come over to settle this. >>
Why would I do that? I've exchanged thoughtful PM's with both Ron and Al about this today. What have you done? >>
If only all your meaningless vacuous posts were pm's k-steelbs'er, perhaps PCGS would have saved enough bandwidth to keep CoinFacts free
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<< <i>Careful...
Ksteel is about to post his addy and demand you come over to settle this. >>
Why would I do that? I've exchanged thoughtful PM's with both Ron and Al about this today. What have you done? >>
If only all your meaningless vacuous posts were pm's k-steelbs'er, perhaps PCGS would have saved enough bandwidth to keep CoinFacts free >>
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Talk about meaningless posts!!!
<< <i>Talk about meaningless posts >>
Hmm...
People should strive to say more with less. More content, less posts is the desire. I am guilty of this too. I am amazed the moderators have tolerated this stupid thread.
bochiman, unless you have a reading comprehension problem it should be plain who my PM challenge was to.
i admitted in that same reply that i went over the edge in a PM to a member, that member was you and the challenge is to soty27. it is all clear in the reply. you are free to make any cut/paste here of PM's i sent you if that will satisfy your evident need to fullfill whatever it may be that your agenda is. post the PM's and let the forum judge me as they will. just be certain to keep the order intact and to cut/paste your PM's to me, also. that is the "bochiman challenge" to you. while we're at it, why not have alll those come forward that i've sent "nasty PM's" to in the past and then we can just air all the laundry hanging on your line.
make no mistake about it, i attempted to be civil in this matter and i went over the edge in ONE PM TO YOU but will not back off if you insist on coming here to make an effort to discredit me for your own reasons. you have done this in the past with other members, it is well documented. perhaps the best thing to do is to just quit trying to stir things up as you have been.
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<< <i>More to the point, you sure were assuming devious intent in your hypothetical >>
Actually, that was a sarcastic comment in response to the attitude I see expressed (way too often) that seems to imply that the morality bar should somehow be set higher for dealers than for collectors. Personally, I think it should be set at the same level for everyone.
<< <i>Do you get it now, or have I misunderstood you? >>
I believe you have misunderstood me.
"Specifically, the implied devious intent of the collector not to return to the store where they ripped off the dealer compared to the (presumed) devious intent of purchasing a 01-s quarter as scrap."
There was no implied devious intent on the part of the collector or ripoff of the dealer (as the dealer paid scrap for the coin and was paid scrap by the collector) and there was no devious intent on the part of the dealer, who, for totally undevious reasons, didn't inspect the coin closely when originally purchasing it. Nobody was trying to cheat anybody out of anything.
Let's try this again.
Scenario 1: Dealer pays scrap for a rare coin because he doesn't examine it at the time of purchase, and later recognizes its value.
Scenario 2: Dealer pays scrap for a rare coin because he doesn't examine it at the time of purchase, sells it for scrap, and its value is later recognized by the collector who bought it.
In both cases, the original seller loses out, but in only scenario 1 is the individual who identifies (and gains the benefit) of the value of the "found" coin expected to be responsible for making the seller whole.
That's the best I can do to explain the intent of my original question- does it help or just make things worse? >>
It just makes things worse.
...now what that is -- either it has something to do with PMs, or someone's cat -- I'm not really sure.
1/2 Cents
U.S. Revenue Stamps
You love snide little comments when you do them...you hate when others do them
As for trying to make you look bad...obviously, I don't have to worry about that...seems you handle that just fine on your own
Nice of you to FINALLY admit you went over the edge in the PM to me...of course, you couldn't man up to that earlier, could you? You left it at "a member" and couldn't bother to mention who.....you also can't be bothered to apologize for it, but that's ok, I expect nothing less from you.
If your PMs were an "attempt to be civil", then I dread what it would be like if you weren't making the "attempt"
Now, let's see how much further you want to keep this going....after all, you love the attention
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>Talk about meaningless posts >>
Hmm...
People should strive to say more with less. More content, less posts is the desire. I am guilty of this too. I am amazed the moderators have tolerated this stupid thread. >>
Hopefully SM1 will poof that one.
i'm not afraid, so i'll just start with the first PM i sent to you and i'll let you verify that it's accuarate and then you can post your reply. this might even be fun!!!!
keets
Date Posted: Jul/24/2009 8:10 AM
so if i understand you correctly, i shouldn't defend myself and what it's really about is my craving for attention??
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>Just checking to see if anything is new and to remind Ken what begins today.
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My guess is that Bochiman lost the PM war with Keets, and is now too afraid to post them.
Throttle back a bit so he can catch the bait.
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
I have followed only a small bit of this thread but I do feel it's a breach of netiquette to post PM's, even when challenged to do so. The PM stands for 'private message' ... right? If this thread has descended into throwing PM's around then you guys have probably gotten too much into it.
<< <i>I have followed only a small bit of this thread but I do feel it's a breach of netiquette to post PM's, even when challenged to do so. The PM stands for 'private message' ... right? If this thread has descended into throwing PM's around then you guys have probably gotten too much into it. >>
You are correct
Maybe gremlins?
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<< <i>I have followed only a small bit of this thread but I do feel it's a breach of netiquette to post PM's, even when challenged to do so. The PM stands for 'private message' ... right? If this thread has descended into throwing PM's around then you guys have probably gotten too much into it. >>
You are correct >>
Yep, and I'm just seeing this now as it is near the top of the page.
Someone wants attention and is begging for it, but I have been involved enough on it and, while I was the one sent the nasty PMs, I too, feel it isn't good to just bandy them about, as tempting as it is.
So, sorry keets, if you can't do it, at least one of us will have to have enough class to just step back and looks like that will be me. Go monger for attention with others. Like I have told you, I laugh but also feel sorry for you. Hope you get the help you need
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
i'm just doing the same thing which started our exchange, defending myself against ridicule and untruth. i simply won't be bullied by someone who thinks he can say whatever he wants without any form of retaliation. the "sanctity of PM's" you want to be shielded by only pertains to what others send to you, not what you send to others. i'm only asking you to post what you sent to me. i seriously think you don't have the guts to do that, you're all bark and no bite, a typical bully on the internet playground. now you want to paint yourself as the bigger man who has enough class to let this die out?? what a joke. you brought the subject up in the first place. where was your "class" at then??
it's OK with me if you want to slink away and hope everything is forgotten. i'm sure some here will believe your line of BS, but i'm just as sure that others have you pegged and won't be fooled.
You admitted you sent the nasty pm, you didn't apologize, which I never thought you would, after all, you think you are always right.
It's all about you, buddy, as you so often want it....thread after thread, edit after edit.
You love the spotlight.
One of us has to man up, and since you can't quite seem to do it, and the boards really aren't the place for petty squabbles, which this is between us, imho, like I said, I will be the one to man up.
Sorry if that kind of irritates you and your need for attention. I'm sure you can go kick a dog or push an elder citizen to make yourself feel better, then you can post about it for more attention. Maybe make another "mock" poll just so you can poke fun at folks and get your attention fix
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
Ron Burgundy: Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
Champ Kind: It jumped up a notch.
Ron Burgundy: It did, didn't it?
Brick Tamland: Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart.
Ron Burgundy: I saw that. Brick killed a guy. Did you throw a trident?
Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
"Keep your malarkey filter in good operating order" -Walter Breen
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Bottles???
i actually feel refusing to state the things you PM'd is the safe thing to do, the face-saving thing to do, the way to "man up" and the way to show class. it's actually odd the way your thread replies follow the same pattern as your PM, but it doesn't surprise me.
i accept that my challenge will go un-met. i admit that i sent you a "nasty" PM. i wish you well in your forum participation. hopefully you can add some good topics for discussion in the future while i continue on my whorish ways, seeking attention and insulting at every chance.
it has been fun.
(I miss Ksteels BS flag)
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working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
<< <i>TTT
(I miss Ksteels BS flag) >>
You aren't worthy!
...
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Forever let us hold our banners high, high, high, high
and now it's time to say good-bye
to all our family...
M...I...C ... see ya real soon
K..E...Y ... Why? because we love you
M...O...U...S...E...
...and not a creature was stirring...
...not even a mouse...
Would you be my neighbor?
Why can't we all just get along?
Th...Th...th...th...th...th...th...that's all folks...
(hey, if yaha can do it...then so can I
All he likes doing is taking shots at others and bragging about a rip of an old man who didn't know better....and thinking he would get a ton of pats on the back around here for the rip.
You're a nice enough guy, he probably figured he could just enjoy taking the shots at you and not get any response back.
wow!!!!! that's sort of like the habit you've taken up, coming into threads late and trying to take shots. i'd expect it from the Boch-meister, though, since you have demonstrated a low quality of class at this site almost since day one. and regarding this old thread and its content, you never rose to the smackdown-post-the-PM's-that-you-lied-about-and-couldn't-back-up-challenge so i've pretty much dismissed you and any feigned credibility you think you have. nice job of revisionist posting on the '01-S, BTW, it almost made me laugh.
as far as Feld, he's a big boy and can defend himself, he doesn't need a chump like you helping out.
Larry L.
<< <i>Not sure why but this thread has now reminded me of a song from long ago...
...
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Mickey Mouse
Donald Duck
Forever let us hold our banners high, high, high, high
and now it's time to say good-bye
to all our family...
M...I...C ... see ya real soon
K..E...Y ... Why? because we love you
M...O...U...S...E...
...and not a creature was stirring...
...not even a mouse...
Would you be my neighbor?
Why can't we all just get along?
Th...Th...th...th...th...th...th...that's all folks...
(hey, if yaha can do it...then so can I
Dayum, how old are you!!!!
using this formula:
Blue sheet-40% X80%
____________
2
Seems all good.
This offer is then submitted, as
a rectal suppository. It seems that
using this formula, the old widow woman
owed the dealer $11.40 That included
the cost of letting her out the front door.
Camelot
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.........I love this place.....