<< <i>Raws seem to be drying up and outperforming the glut of ms69's. Leads one to believe many of the "hoards" have been disbursed. Some may be waiting yet, but there is always that percentage that will sell regardless of logic proportional to the smarter sellers... >>
I attribute this to the fact that many collectors prefer coins in OGP. Not everyone collects slabs.
Never teach a pig to sing. You'll waste your time and annoy the pig
<< <i>Raws seem to be drying up and outperforming the glut of ms69's. Leads one to believe many of the "hoards" have been disbursed. Some may be waiting yet, but there is always that percentage that will sell regardless of logic proportional to the smarter sellers... >>
I attribute this to the fact that many collectors prefer coins in OGP. Not everyone collects slabs. >>
For about the last year I have actually preferred putting all of my modern stuff in Albums and have been selling of the slabs. Slabs just take up too much space. If I ever do ASE's again I will collect raw and put them in a Dansco album.
I had 3 orders of 12 active...Cancelled one but the other two were "in stock and reserved" without the cancel box....I agree that these have probably dried up. I will report about my outstanding orders due to ship this week. My totals so far: 0/25, 0/12, 12/12, 5/5, in that order
Well I decided to try one more time for these elusive things - I bought some MS70s awhile back and I did order a box of 99 about three weeks ago and got zero of the goodies. Then some people got a few more and I crumbled under the pressure of greed and order a whole bunch of smaller orders totalling about 200 coins. I now see that one of my shipments is due to arrive tomorrow morning (total coins in that shipment/lot will be 48. i will let keep everyone updated.
i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it.
a "cull" 08/07 W ASE.....lol but i know what you mean....2manycoins2fewfunds
Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –verb (used with object) 1. to choose; select; pick. 2. to gather the choice things or parts from. 3. to collect; gather; pluck. –noun 4. act of culling. 5. something culled, esp. something picked out and put aside as inferior.
<< <i>i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it. >>
This is why the raw price should not exceed the MS69...anyone can convert a 69 back to being raw....and this is why the POP totals will never be correct because the same coin could be graded multiple times and included in the POP (I would add that the MS70 POP should be accurate unless someone is trying to upgrade a 70 as seen in a previous thread)
<< <i>i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it. >>
This is why the raw price should not exceed the MS69...anyone can convert a 69 back to being raw....and this is why the POP totals will never be correct because the same coin could be graded multiple times and included in the POP (I would add that the MS70 POP should be accurate unless someone is trying to upgrade a 70 as seen in a previous thread) >>
upgrade a 70 to what?..
two possibilities:
- he's an alchemist and trying to upgrade it to Gold or Platinum - he's illiterate and can't read the back of a PCGS submission form where it says you can't submit someone else's 70 as a cross-over and specify a minimum grade of 70..
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
I have been watching Modern Coin Mart NGC's, they are up another 10 dollars today, Regular 69s are 259, plus shipping, Early Release 269. The 70s are at 499, and 539 before shipping.
<< <i>Has there been any PCGS non-First Strike ms70's on Ebay yet? I wonder the FS premium on these is. >>
I would say ~$750+ (or double the regular label price). >>
I guess that hasn't been tested yet. I looked at Ebay and did not see one PCGS ms70 non-FS sold yet. I was surprised to see that the PCGS 69 FS's have not held much of a premium over raw especially knowing how hard and expensive it is to get a PCGS holder like that.
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<< <i>Has there been any PCGS non-First Strike ms70's on Ebay yet? I wonder the FS premium on these is. >>
I would say ~$750+ (or double the regular label price). >>
I guess that hasn't been tested yet. I looked at Ebay and did not see one PCGS ms70 non-FS sold yet. I was surprised to see that the PCGS 69 FS's have not held much of a premium over raw especially knowing how hard and expensive it is to get a PCGS holder like that. >>
Too early to establish. IMO, it depends on what the population reports look like in a couple weeks.
Never teach a pig to sing. You'll waste your time and annoy the pig
He was definitely kidding. He's referring to a recent thread about an inferior "MS70" coin being offered on ebay. The seller said "it has a great chance to upgrade!"
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<< <i>I agree about the raw vs 69 >>
<< <i>i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it. >>
This is why the raw price should not exceed the MS69...anyone can convert a 69 back to being raw....and this is why the POP totals will never be correct because the same coin could be graded multiple times and included in the POP (I would add that the MS70 POP should be accurate unless someone is trying to upgrade a 70 as seen in a previous thread) >>
upgrade a 70 to what?..
two possibilities:
- he's an alchemist and trying to upgrade it to Gold or Platinum - he's illiterate and can't read the back of a PCGS submission form where it says you can't submit someone else's 70 as a cross-over and specify a minimum grade of 70..
<< <i>I just checked the pops across the street......looks like a total of 6,821 graded.
2008 W EAGLE S$1 REVERSE OF 2007 MS 554 252 302 2008 W EAGLE REV OF 07 S$1 EARLY RELEASES MS 6267 1 3510 2756 >>
68 69 70 early release 2 10304 10143 reverse/08 252 302 early release reverse/08 1 3510 2756
hope this helps those who do not see things as well as others....without doing a photo bucket pr link to another page early release 68 (2) 69 (10304) 70 (10143) reverse non ER 69 (252) 70 (302) ER reverse 68 (1) 69 (3510) 70 (2756)
ALSO these TPG stats seem to suggest a high quality coin...meaning newer dies on this batch
<< <i>I just checked the pops across the street......looks like a total of 6,821 graded.
2008 W EAGLE S$1 REVERSE OF 2007 MS 554 252 302 2008 W EAGLE REV OF 07 S$1 EARLY RELEASES MS 6267 1 3510 2756 >>
68 69 70 early release 2 10304 10143 reverse/08 252 302 early release reverse/08 1 3510 2756
hope this helps those who do not see things as well as others....without doing a photo bucket pr link to another page early release 68 (2) 69 (10304) 70 (10143) reverse non ER 69 (252) 70 (302) ER reverse 68 (1) 69 (3510) 70 (2756)
ALSO these TPG stats seem to suggest a high quality coin...meaning newer dies on this batch >>
here are some interesting graphs from eBay's market research, these are WITHOUT PCGS and NGC coins. First two pics are average sold price for 2 week and 1 week history. Second two pics are average number of items sold for 2 week and 1 week period.
Got mine today... I ordered a whopping 4 coins!! And I'm batting .500!! Two for four, and I think I got pretty lucky.
Not sure about getting them graded. Frankly, I didn't buy 'em to sell 'em. but, "If I had A Million Dollars, ..." i might reconsider it...
Thanks to this thread, even as a novice "collector", I recognized this as an opportunity, and the long and short of it is that here I am today, gloating just a tiny bit, giddy with successfully having dipped my toes in the big boys pool!!
Well... now that THAT'S over with...
back to my little corner of the world...
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Ordered 2 more over the weekend. Pretty sure that they will be '08 Rev. but I needed a couple for my sets anyway. Then again it's like the lottery, or a box of charcolattts!
Regards, John
Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set: 1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S. Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
I have two of those coming from Modern Coin Mart. Paid $300 each. I thought they were cool and reasonably priced, especially with the recent upward surge.
<< <i>Local B&M picked up another batch of 50 today, received three with the 07 reverse.
He wasn't happy. He wouldn't even take $200 each.
I don't blame him, prices seem to be rising, trying to sell at a peak. >>
i'm gonna laugh.. or cry.. or sit in stunned silence or something if these things end up being worth more than my PCGS PR69DCAM / PR70 10nd Anniversary Platinum pair.. which is definitely a possibility.. no one is buying that set from the Mint since they re-priced it at $2700.00.. good.. keep the Mintage down..
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<< <i>Raws seem to be drying up and outperforming the glut of ms69's. Leads one to believe many of the "hoards" have been disbursed. Some may be waiting yet, but there is always that percentage that will sell regardless of logic proportional to the smarter sellers... >>
I attribute this to the fact that many collectors prefer coins in OGP. Not everyone collects slabs.
<< <i>I'm trying to control my frustration at those who are holding MANY and sit there licking there chops.
It's a great hobby, nonetheless. >>
I'm not holding mine..... Feel free to bid ;-]
received 2- 2008/2008
Well I have 2 for my albums and the 2 that I got
before have the 2007 reverse so I have a balanced set.
Stefanie
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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<< <i>Raws seem to be drying up and outperforming the glut of ms69's. Leads one to believe many of the "hoards" have been disbursed. Some may be waiting yet, but there is always that percentage that will sell regardless of logic proportional to the smarter sellers... >>
I attribute this to the fact that many collectors prefer coins in OGP. Not everyone collects slabs. >>
For about the last year I have actually preferred putting all of my modern stuff in Albums and have been selling of the slabs. Slabs just take up too much space. If I ever do ASE's again I will collect raw and put them in a Dansco album.
Jeff
i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it.
a "cull" 08/07 W ASE.....lol but i know what you mean....2manycoins2fewfunds
it's either 70 or raw
<< <i>it's either 70 or raw >>
Don't forget or discount the first strike labels.
Thats very cool with me. I'll just hang on to my 69 First Strikes and Early Releases, and when all the raw and 70's have dried up...
<< <i>i agree about the raw vs 69
i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it.
a "cull" 08/07 W ASE.....lol but i know what you mean....2manycoins2fewfunds
Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object)
1. to choose; select; pick.
2. to gather the choice things or parts from.
3. to collect; gather; pluck.
–noun
4. act of culling.
5. something culled, esp. something picked out and put aside as inferior.
<< <i>I agree about the raw vs 69 >>
<< <i>i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it. >>
This is why the raw price should not exceed the MS69...anyone can convert a 69 back to being raw....and this is why the POP totals will never be correct because the same coin could be graded multiple times and included in the POP (I would add that the MS70 POP should be accurate unless someone is trying to upgrade a 70 as seen in a previous thread)
You will never get that label back
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<< <i>I agree about the raw vs 69 >>
<< <i>i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it. >>
This is why the raw price should not exceed the MS69...anyone can convert a 69 back to being raw....and this is why the POP totals will never be correct because the same coin could be graded multiple times and included in the POP (I would add that the MS70 POP should be accurate unless someone is trying to upgrade a 70 as seen in a previous thread) >>
upgrade a 70 to what?..
two possibilities:
- he's an alchemist and trying to upgrade it to Gold or Platinum
- he's illiterate and can't read the back of a PCGS submission form where it says you can't submit someone else's 70 as a cross-over and specify a minimum grade of 70..
okay three poissibilities:
- you were kidding
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>it's either 70 or raw
Thats very cool with me. I'll just hang on to my 69 First Strikes and Early Releases, and when all the raw and 70's have dried up... >>
<< <i>Very few will crack an Early Release 69 or a First Strike 69 to a raw.
You will never get that label back >>
there is little "label" premium on these in "69"
above post beat me to it....
<< <i>Has there been any PCGS non-First Strike ms70's on Ebay yet? I wonder the FS premium on these is. >>
I would say ~$750+ (or double the regular label price).
2008 W EAGLE S$1 REVERSE OF 2007 MS 554 252 302
2008 W EAGLE REV OF 07 S$1 EARLY RELEASES MS 6267 1 3510 2756
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<< <i>Has there been any PCGS non-First Strike ms70's on Ebay yet? I wonder the FS premium on these is. >>
I would say ~$750+ (or double the regular label price). >>
I guess that hasn't been tested yet. I looked at Ebay and did not see one PCGS ms70 non-FS sold yet. I was surprised to see that the PCGS 69 FS's have not held much of a premium over raw especially knowing how hard and expensive it is to get a PCGS holder like that.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Has there been any PCGS non-First Strike ms70's on Ebay yet? I wonder the FS premium on these is. >>
I would say ~$750+ (or double the regular label price). >>
I guess that hasn't been tested yet. I looked at Ebay and did not see one PCGS ms70 non-FS sold yet. I was surprised to see that the PCGS 69 FS's have not held much of a premium over raw especially knowing how hard and expensive it is to get a PCGS holder like that. >>
Too early to establish. IMO, it depends on what the population reports look like in a couple weeks.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I agree about the raw vs 69 >>
<< <i>i was going to crack the one NGC69 i had but sold it. >>
This is why the raw price should not exceed the MS69...anyone can convert a 69 back to being raw....and this is why the POP totals will never be correct because the same coin could be graded multiple times and included in the POP (I would add that the MS70 POP should be accurate unless someone is trying to upgrade a 70 as seen in a previous thread) >>
upgrade a 70 to what?..
two possibilities:
- he's an alchemist and trying to upgrade it to Gold or Platinum
- he's illiterate and can't read the back of a PCGS submission form where it says you can't submit someone else's 70 as a cross-over and specify a minimum grade of 70..
okay three poissibilities:
- you were kidding
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<< <i>I just checked the pops across the street......looks like a total of 6,821 graded.
2008 W EAGLE S$1 REVERSE OF 2007 MS 554 252 302
2008 W EAGLE REV OF 07 S$1 EARLY RELEASES MS 6267 1 3510 2756 >>
68 69 70
early release 2 10304 10143
reverse/08 252 302
early release reverse/08 1 3510 2756
hope this helps those who do not see things as well as others....without doing a photo bucket pr link to another page
early release 68 (2) 69 (10304) 70 (10143)
reverse non ER 69 (252) 70 (302)
ER reverse 68 (1) 69 (3510) 70 (2756)
ALSO these TPG stats seem to suggest a high quality coin...meaning newer dies on this batch
<< <i>
<< <i>I just checked the pops across the street......looks like a total of 6,821 graded.
2008 W EAGLE S$1 REVERSE OF 2007 MS 554 252 302
2008 W EAGLE REV OF 07 S$1 EARLY RELEASES MS 6267 1 3510 2756 >>
68 69 70
early release 2 10304 10143
reverse/08 252 302
early release reverse/08 1 3510 2756
hope this helps those who do not see things as well as others....without doing a photo bucket pr link to another page
early release 68 (2) 69 (10304) 70 (10143)
reverse non ER 69 (252) 70 (302)
ER reverse 68 (1) 69 (3510) 70 (2756)
ALSO these TPG stats seem to suggest a high quality coin...meaning newer dies on this batch >>
That's pretty low on the 70's, Early Release.
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<< <i>S*C*O*R*E Order placed 4/29, shipped 5/1, received 5/6 (2) 2008 reverse 2007. Finally! So I'm batting 2 for 55. >>
Thanks for the hope. I placed an order 4/30 that says it shipped 5/5. Should have it tomorrow.
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<< <i>S*C*O*R*E Order placed 4/29, shipped 5/1, received 5/6 (2) 2008 reverse 2007. Finally! So I'm batting 2 for 55. >>
my order place 04/30 was 0/5, at least i have some 08/08 now
<< <i>S*C*O*R*E Order placed 4/29, shipped 5/1, received 5/6 (2) 2008 reverse 2007. Finally! So I'm batting 2 for 55. >>
Congratulations!
Looks like the mint is still shipping
<< <i>S*C*O*R*E Order placed 4/29, shipped 5/1, received 5/6 (2) 2008 reverse 2007. Finally! So I'm batting 2 for 55. >>
congrats. i also placed an order for 12 on 4/29 and they are still "in process" with cancel box gone for days now
Nice work!
Seems like we are all getting very excited here...statistics, graphs, daily coin counts and ebay averages, high number of posts.
I can vouch for the $300 (sold) on 4-28.
Ren
Not sure about getting them graded. Frankly, I didn't buy 'em to sell 'em. but, "If I had A Million Dollars, ..." i might reconsider it...
Thanks to this thread, even as a novice "collector", I recognized this as an opportunity, and the long and short of it is that here I am today, gloating just a tiny bit, giddy with successfully having dipped my toes in the big boys pool!!
Well... now that THAT'S over with...
back to my little corner of the world...
Thanks, friends
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Beats All The Lies You Can Invent
Pretty sure that they will be '08 Rev. but I needed a couple for my sets anyway.
Then again it's like the lottery, or a box of charcolattts!
Regards, John
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
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<< <i>Has anyone gotten one of these yet?
I have two of those coming from Modern Coin Mart. Paid $300 each. I thought they were cool and reasonably priced, especially with the recent upward surge.
-Paul
He wasn't happy. He wouldn't even take $200 each.
I don't blame him, prices seem to be rising, trying to sell at a peak.
<< <i>S*C*O*R*E Order placed 4/29, shipped 5/1, received 5/6 (2) 2008 reverse 2007. Finally! So I'm batting 2 for 55. >>
Congratulations!
You just gave me some hope that the 15 I ordered 04/29 will have some of the '07 reverse's! Hopefully they will be in soon!
<< <i>Local B&M picked up another batch of 50 today, received three with the 07 reverse.
He wasn't happy. He wouldn't even take $200 each.
I don't blame him, prices seem to be rising, trying to sell at a peak. >>
i'm gonna laugh.. or cry.. or sit in stunned silence or something if these things end up being worth more than my PCGS PR69DCAM / PR70 10nd Anniversary Platinum pair.. which is definitely a possibility.. no one is buying that set from the Mint since they re-priced it at $2700.00.. good.. keep the Mintage down..
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