Official 2008 Allen & Ginter Rip/Trade/Show Off/Information Thread....

leathtech · July 23, 2008 10:38AM

has anyone seen these at their local target or walmarts?

AragornTheBold · July 23, 2008 10:42AM

<< has anyone seen these at their local target or walmarts? >>

I was told it would be a few more days until they get a limited supply of them but I am going to check them both tomorrow

fattymacs · July 23, 2008 10:43AM

I checked wal mart yesterday, nada. A card shop said his shipment comes tomorrow.

AragornTheBold · July 23, 2008 10:50AM

Did you check with wal mart and see when they are getting a shipment in?

gfb · July 23, 2008 10:50AM

<< Here are some pics:

Kevin >>

you got the most hated man in all of videogamedom the svengali of Donkey Kong Billy Mitchell!!

If you haven't seen King of Kong, it's really worth the rental, go rent it, then you'll know why he's the biggest jerk and cheater in all the land 8-)

leathtech · July 23, 2008 10:52AM

ok you guys are sucking me in... anyone know of any good places to buy a few boxes... I see ebay has several selling in the $70 + shipping and several buy it nows for around $85-90.

joestalin · July 23, 2008 11:12AM

Is it too early to figure out print runs? Based on the plate odds, the cloth odds and the wood odds, there appear to be 1,345,400 hobby packs. About the
same number of retail packs....giving us 11 cuts in the hobby and 9 in retail.

With those numbers the group A autos are around 135 each. Not that many.

Are the cloth, wood and plates hobby only?

Kevin

magellan · July 23, 2008 11:13AM

Some nice looking cards & some great pulls guys. I got my tracking # today from Larry Roselli, says it shipped yesterday. I can't wait to start rippage.

What's the general consensus on the rip cards? Rip or no?

nam812 · July 23, 2008 11:22AM

<< Some nice looking cards & some great pulls guys. I got my tracking # today from Larry Roselli, says it shipped yesterday. I can't wait to start rippage.

What's the general consensus on the rip cards? Rip or no? >>

No.

jcdcubs · July 23, 2008 11:27AM

I order 2 cases from eBay and I still can't wait !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wem1472 · July 23, 2008 11:56AM

Who's the Sizemore collector again? I just pulled the Mini Exclusive out of my Rowand Rip card. I hope you can use it as part of a trade or something!

Shoot me a PM to let me know and I'll put it aside if you want it.

Bill

Goot · July 23, 2008 12:10PM

<< 
- [Open mini-rant] Topps seems to be really, really stretching the definition of "World's Champions" for the non baseball cards. I think I've pulled two different rugby players (neither of whom seem to have won any World Championship), an air guitarist (huh?), the hotdog guy (which was cool the first time around), someone who scored a perfect score in Pacman, a fisherman, an arm-wrestler, a sled-dog guy, and I'm sure there are more. Mark Spitz, absolutely a World Champion - great idea. Monet, Hickok, Tchaikovsky, Dickens, and Franklin - sure, neat cards of famous people. A skateboarder? That may be taking it too far. [Close mini-rant]

... >>

Why is being a skateboarding champion any less deserving than a fisherman or a eating champion? Not sure why you would include him as "taking it too far". Maybe some older guys or people that don't follow skateboarding don't know about him, but Stevie Williams is idolized by millions of kids, the best at what he does, and the founder and owner of a skate clothing line that is partnered with Reebok. He's accomplished a lot more than some stupid air guitarist.

joestalin · July 23, 2008 12:13PM

anyone see the Wright case topper autos? They look like advertisement but are autoed by Wright....I wonder how many of them will be
thrown away, after all they are folded up like the box toppers they had in every box back in 2006!

Kevin

parkerj · July 23, 2008 12:16PM

I just finished my first case, I'll summarize shortly but 2 cloths, and 2 rip cards - no fu**dome, were the highlights.

Kevin, looks like team orange is another unannounced mini subset of 10 cards. Haven't seen "BO".

Cloth, wood, and printing plates are hobby only.

joestalin · July 23, 2008 12:19PM

2 cloth and 2 rip...dang!

Kevin

joestalin · July 23, 2008 12:21PM

wait, I did get a team orange...TO8 Thurgood Cartwright.

parkerj · July 23, 2008 12:23PM

By the way, I am convinced that the SP is the card right before the state insert. Well actually the mini is on top of the state insert, so its the card on top of the mini - usually about the 4th card in. and i think most of the high #s are the sp's, like last year.

rube26105 · July 23, 2008 12:24PM

i only opened 4 boxes out of a case so far and just had to order another case, got a rip card and red bazooka back so far as the best ones, lots of gu stuff i want something good lol ,back to drinking,watching criss angel,and opening this case, had to get up and pee so i thought id check in mom
is there anyplace that has the odds on some of this stuff online like sharks/the crack year toad and stuff like that and the sp's? i love you guys, group hug lol
ihave not got one card over 350 yet or a no #ered one, so i guess they are really tough!!!! got a tiger shark
im going to look for mary shelley/brahm stoker,and wild bill ttm too lol-maybe thier relatives??
rube the drunken

TNP777 · July 23, 2008 12:29PM

O Drunken One,

The cards numbered 350+ are minis and only found inside the rip cards.

joestalin · July 23, 2008 12:37PM

would anyone mind posting a pic of the back of the team orange crack the code card? It appears like all these players are made up!

Kevin

Rube...odds on the back of the wrapper...good luck on the rest!

ROCKCITYCHRIS · July 23, 2008 12:52PM

Hey guys ! Cant wait to get in on the action thanks to prscott I will be getting 4 boxes. Graduating from blaster to hobby boxes this year!

kuhlmann · July 23, 2008 1:17PM

OK i got 3 rip cards 4 auto's 2 no number mini. 1 bazooka 3 sharks 3 airplane thing cards 1 world icon 5 world champion cards. a bunch of jersey cards. in 10 boxes.

my question if anyone can answer this for me as i am dying to rip one of my rip cards. is there anything in there besides the 50 extra mini cards? like are the dna cards in there or some kind of special other card you could get?

any help would be great?

prscott933 · July 23, 2008 1:18PM

<< OK i got 3 rip cards 4 auto's 2 no number mini. 1 bazooka 3 sharks 3 airplane thing cards 1 world icon 5 world champion cards. a bunch of jersey cards. in 10 boxes.

my question if anyone can answer this for me as i am dying to rip one of my rip cards. is there anything in there besides the 50 extra mini cards? like are the dna cards in there or some kind of special other card you could get?

any help would be great? >>

i got a 1/1 wood mini out of a rip card last year

joestalin · July 23, 2008 1:19PM

Chris

Nice rip. The rip cards will have extended cards in them, also possible perez 1/1's or red ink autos.

Kevin

parkerj · July 23, 2008 1:20PM

Well, here are the results from my first case:

6 cabinets
6 n43
63 a&G minis
26 black minis
23 world leaders
28 relics
3 team orange
5 baseball icons including ruth
1 aviation
4 sharks (got 2 of mako)
6 ancient icons
11 break the code
2 no # minis
6 Autos:
Carl Crawford - group a
Bonnie Blair - group a
Jeff Francour
Francisco Cordero card
Francisco Cordero redemption (Huh???)
Curtis Granderson
2 rip cards: scott rolen 70/99 unripped, aaron rowand 97/99 ripped: 400 mini ryan howard
2 felts: Chin-Lung Hu 2/10, Edgar Renteria 5/10

joestalin · July 23, 2008 1:23PM

two cloth cards in one case..WOW. Nice ink too!

Kevin

kuhlmann · July 23, 2008 1:23PM

i pulled and sold a andrea farina auto card for 29$ rock paper scissors champ.. they bought it in 2 minutes. did i mess up on that lol? never thought someone would buy that for more then 2$

HeritageAddict · July 23, 2008 1:24PM

Jim, that's a very nice first case.

prscott933 · July 23, 2008 1:24PM

<< i pulled and sold a andrea farina auto card for 29$ rock paper scissors champ.. they bought it in 2 minutes. did i mess up on that lol? never thought someone would buy that for more then 2$ >>

should have asked here first. that could be worth a lot more.

Guru · July 23, 2008 1:28PM

I've got my F*kudome on ebay right now. I have to be honest, buying this box today was a splurge (hope that's spelled right). I can't really trade, gotta sell. Sorry. For some reason I feel really guilty for listing that and the fact that I'm going to be selling most from the box. Don't know why I'm ranting.

AragornTheBold · July 23, 2008 1:28PM

Ya when I get my box I will need some help with the values of the cards

joestalin · July 23, 2008 1:33PM

Chris

You might of done better than that now, in a month of so that might turn out to be a fair value...there is one thing I have learned with A&G...many people will
pay whatever they need to to get the card they want. I also let a few of my rarer cards ride with high BIN's just to see if I can get a bite. The group A autos
which in the last have compared to the group C autos, are a bit rarer than we are used to.

Kevin

kuhlmann · July 23, 2008 1:35PM

scans of my 10 boxes.

and one very happy lady

sorry scans so small the autos are buchholtz kinsler carmona and the girl. no numbers are lee and nathan bazooka is cuddyer. printing plate is f rod from angeles.

Guru · July 23, 2008 1:39PM

No one's posting because they just keep staring at the chick over and over again. Nice!

kuhlmann · July 23, 2008 1:40PM

No one's posting because they just keep staring at the chick over and over again.

if that offends anyone pm me and i will take it down.

but i think 99% of us like it

joestalin · July 23, 2008 1:43PM

Im checking the back of my packs, but I don't see the odds on the lucky lady..is that Mary Jane Rottencrotch?

Kevin

mosaic · July 23, 2008 1:43PM

Boing-yoing-yoing-yoing... at the cards...

Oh, there's a girl there? Hmm, she's OK. Glad to see she's a safety nut. Has her flotation devices and everything!

BunchOBull · July 23, 2008 1:45PM

that almost makes up for not having anything to rip

Goot · July 23, 2008 1:46PM

Crawford and Francoeur autos.....Sweeettt! That's the first Crawford auto I've seen. Nice job on the Cloths as well.

hofautos · July 23, 2008 1:47PM

Are there any SP autos in the set? I looked on topps website for their checklist, and see the framed autos, but don't see any listed as being SP?

joestalin · July 23, 2008 1:50PM

<< Are there any SP autos in the set? I looked on topps website for their checklist, and see the framed autos, but don't see any listed as being SP? >>

Group A autos are SP'ed there are a bunch..around 135 each according to my bad math. Group C autos are plentiful!

Kevin

Guru · July 23, 2008 1:51PM

Is there an SP list out there yet?

BunchOBull · July 23, 2008 1:53PM

Glad to find this on ebay:

AragornTheBold · July 23, 2008 1:57PM

Did you find that babe in one of your boxes? If so I really need to buy some fast!

metalmike · July 23, 2008 2:06PM

IF anyone pulls any bad miscuts/misprints ect shoot me a pm. Mike

kuhlmann · July 23, 2008 2:08PM

IF anyone pulls any bad miscuts/misprints ect shoot me a pm. Mike

not sure if its just my 10 boxes but my # 10 states card nick markakis is way over sized all of them are? anyone else notice this.

hofautos · July 23, 2008 2:18PM

<< Is there an SP list out there yet? >>

Ok, i found it...anyone know if there are the same amount of each in the same group?
IE if it is group A, does that mean that all the cards in "group A" have xx copies?

Description Card #
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Andre Ethier C AE
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Andrea Farina A AF
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Allen Fisher A AFI
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Alex Rios B AIR
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Andrew Litz A AL
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Adriano Moraes A AM
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Bonnie Blair A BB
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Bruce Jenner A BJ
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Bob Motley A BM
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Brad Penny A BP
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Brian Bannister C BPB
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Billy Mitchell A BPM
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Clay Buchholz B CB
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Carl Crawford A CC
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Curtis Granderson B CG
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Deep Blue A DB
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Dan Jansen A DJ
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Dean Karnazes A DK
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs David Ortiz A DO
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs David Wright A DW
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Ervin Santana C ES
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Francisco Cordero C FC
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Fausto Carmona C FCC
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Frank Morris A FM
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Geoff Jenkins B GJ
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Hunter Pence A HP
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Hanley Ramirez A HR
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Ian Kinsler C IK
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Jeff Francoeur C JBF
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Joba Chamberlain B JC
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Jeff Francis B JF
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Joey Chestnut A JJC
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Jeff King A JK
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Jeanette Lee A JL
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Jose Reyes A JR
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Jarrod Saltalamacchia C JS
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Kerri Strug A KS
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Kevin Van Dam A KVD
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Lisa Leslie A LL
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Les Miles A LM
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Matt Biondi A MB
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Matt Kemp B MK
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Manny Ramirez A MR
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Mark Spitz A MS
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Matt Holliday A MTH
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Nicky Hayden A NH
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Nick Markakis B NM
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Orlando Hudson B OH
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Prince Fielder A PF
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Pete Weber A PW
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Ryan Howard A RH
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Rampage Jackson A RJ
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Serena Williams A SJW
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Stevie Williams A SW
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Todd Clever A TC
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Torii Hunter A TH
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Travis Hafner A TLH
2008 Topps Allen and Ginter Autographs Takudzwa Ngwenya A TN

joestalin · July 23, 2008 2:28PM

yes usually cards within the same group all have the same print run.

Kevin

TNP777 · July 23, 2008 2:33PM

So if I've counted right, out of a total of 58 autos, 41 are Group A, 9 are Group B and 8 are Group C. Wow, that's a lot of SPed autos. That explains the high percentage of Group As that have been pulled by board members.

Guru · July 23, 2008 2:46PM

Is anyone ripping tonight?

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