Amazing card! What set would that be from? It must be a challenge to find vintage boxing cards from that era, let alone one in that good of condition. Great pickup! >>
Thank you. It is an 1893 Lorillard Red Cross Long Cut Tobacco N266 featuring heaveyweights Bonb Fitzsimmons and Jack Dempsey.
J, Thank you. I am in the midst of upgrading my 1979 set. Yours look terrific, with very nice overall centering. The centering of my cards drags down my entire set.
If no one has asked you before, I will. With all the cards you show every Satruday, why the heck are they still not graded? You show raw cards from the 70's every weekend that look like they have a shot at 10's. I actually on check this thread when I see you were the last one to reply.
If no one has asked you before, I will. With all the cards you show every Satruday, why the heck are they still not graded? You show raw cards from the 70's every weekend that look like they have a shot at 10's. I actually on check this thread when I see you were the last one to reply. >>
I'm really not interested in having my cards graded. I prefer them raw so I can more clearly see them (which is becoming increasingly difficult with my cruddy eyesight). It's also less expensive and raw cards take up less space than slabbed ones. The only reason I've ever had cards graded is for the Set Registry, on which I have 2 1972 FB sets (Topps and OPC CFL). Grading would come in handy if I want to maximize re-sale value, but I don't plan on selling any cards. The only cards I sell are dups that I accumulate from the never-ending process of upgrading.
I just keep 'em all inside top loaders with penny sleeves. They stay well-protected and I can handle them much better than inside sheets/folders. I've always been a stats freak and still spend many hours looking at the card backs. I can more clearly read cards (with the aid of a magnifying glass) in a top loader than in a slab.
I would just like to know where you keep getting cards for upgrades. I can never seem to find any raw cards anywhere that compare to yours. The 72's you sent me were apperantly leftovers from upgrades and even those were awesome.
<< <i>I would just like to know where you keep getting cards for upgrades. I can never seem to find any raw cards anywhere that compare to yours. The 72's you sent me were apperantly leftovers from upgrades and even those were awesome. >>
Although most of the cards I display in this thread were purchased raw, many were crackouts from PSA or SGC. My 1972 set has the highest percentage of crackouts, probably about 35-40%. Most of the raw upgrades I got for that set came from Wheat State Cards on eBay. They broke up a high grade set and listed each card at BIN prices nearly 2 years ago. I just stumbled upon 'em. Other raw pick ups have been from a few individual eBay sellers. I just happened to get lucky a few times. I will no longer buy raw cards for my 1972 set, though. I can't trust sellers of raw cards to provide the quality I now seek.
As for my other 1970's sets I buy mainly from Mickey's Sportscards, Burbank Sportscards, and Jeff Kling (klinger83 or eBay). Kling has weekly set breaks from which I find many cards. Some are a little over-graded, but I'm very particular about which cards to pursue. If I study the scans carefully and give no card the benefit of the doubt, I probably achieve about a 90% satisfaction rate with his cards. Plus, I usually get 'em fairly cheap and shipping is more than reasonable. Geez, I sound like a commercial.
Edit: Bill, thanks for the kind words about the '72's I sent you. Those were all holdovers from my childhood, long before TPG. I managed to keep a good number of my cards in fine shape. As I continue to upgrade, though, cards like the ones I sent you no longer satisfy me. It seems look "good" is never going to be "good enough."
One final note about the 1974's I posted earlier today: The common thread is that each card features a player who batted .300 or better in his rookie season. The two multi-player cards have Bill Madlock and Bake McBride, both of whom exceeded .300 as rookies in 1974.
Opened a couple of 1983 topps baseball packs today a got a beautiful Pete Rose All Star #397. I think the centering, edges, and corners are all awesome. The only flaws I found is a black dot below the PP in Topps and a small hair line running down his nose. All in All I was happy.
What type of grade could this card pull if I sent it in to PSA??
Thanks for the input.
ADAM
Currently Collecting 1975 Topps Football PSA 9's - 10's
ymarea, you are my hero. It was over a year ago that I switched to cracked raw collecting (for stars, highs) and it was the best decision I made in nearly 40 years of collecting. I fully agree that having the cards in penny sleeves and sheets look far better than in plastic slabs, and that they makes the sets more accessible and easier to view/enjoy. Good luck.
Great 1957's, HighChopper. I absolutely LOVE that set. The baggie uniforms, the cap logos, and the old-stlye ballbarks speak of a much simpler era when baseball, among other things, was far more enjoyable. For the record, I was born in 1964, but I've always felt that I was born 20 years too late.
Indy78, excellent '75's. I've been slowly upgrading my set for about a year and half now and have found high-grade raw cards very hard to come by. Your cards look terrific.
Thanks. I'll try to share bigger scans next week. I'm still learning how to do this.
Most of my 70's sets are mid-grade, but this one I can't stop upgrading - it's gotten to the point that I've almost created a second set through upgrading alone. In any event, it's a slow process, as you know, whether working within a budget or not.
Collecting PSA graded Steve Young, Marcus Allen, Bret Saberhagen and 1980s Topps Cards. Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
The 57 Topps cards are beauties. I can't get over how nice the photography is from that year. It is also neat seeing the backgrounds of some of the old ballparks.
Those 75's are sharp too. I always like that 75 Kaline card.
Well, I guess I'll start us out this week. Here are some '75 minis from my latest set building project. I'm just about 1/3 of the way there. My goal is to complete the best set that I can for under $300. It means sacrifcing the condition of the bigger name star cards, but it's that or nothing at this point in my life. Enjoy!
Ok, since nobody else has stepped forward, I'll take a stab at it. All of those depicted players played with one team/organization for their entire careers. Off the top of my head, there is a slight nuance for Dick Green in that he played for the A's in Kansas City and Oakland. But I believe it's the same organization, just two different cities.
Ok, since nobody else has stepped forward, I'll take a stab at it. All of those depicted players played with one team/organization for their entire careers. Off the top of my head, there is a slight nuance for Dick Green in that he played for the A's in Kansas City and Oakland. But I believe it's the same organization, just two different cities. >>
Indy,
Very nicely done! You are correct. Each man spent his entire big league playing career with one organization. Yes, the A's began in Philadelphia, moved to KC, and are currently in Oakland. Mgr Bob Lemon (KC) played his entire big league career with the Cleveland Indians.
Good luck with your 1975 Mini set. Looks like you are off to a great start.
Today's raw pick up from East Coast National show. Hard to find these centered and mint.
Collecting Clemente master (#6) and basic PSA registry sets, Hank Aaron master and basic sets, Mantle oddball issues, 1970's mega decade HOFs, 1967 Topps pin ups, and high grade Topps Clemente and Aaron. Numerous transactions with over 100 board members.
Here's some stuff that you don't see too often...not regular issue stuff.
First is an 1893 Arbuckle Brothers depicting baseball...nice writeup on the back of the card:
Next are some 1954 NY Journal cards that were issued at newstands when buying the paper (these are the creme colored cards)...the orange ones are 1958 SanFrancisco Call Bulletin that were issued about the same way:
And finally, a 1970 Dodge postcard w/Tarkenton and a 1959 LA Dodgers postcard with John Roseboro:
Regarding Jim Palmer, it's no PD. To the best of my knowledge, all of those cards have that same red face. Even on the A.L. ERA Leaders card from that set, Palmer has a distinct red mark over his right cheek. I looked at a few other Palmer cards from the 1970's and it looks like his natural skin tone was somewhat blotchy. It is definitely accentuated on the 1972 card. Perhaps the lighting during the photo shoot had some affect.
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Amazing card! What set would that be from? It must be a challenge to find vintage boxing cards from that era, let alone one in that good of condition. Great pickup! >>
Thank you. It is an 1893 Lorillard Red Cross Long Cut Tobacco N266 featuring heaveyweights Bonb Fitzsimmons and Jack Dempsey.
Bosox1976
For any OPeeChee fans out there, here are some 69's that I got in trade from rajah424 this week - thanks again Stuart!!!
Collecting: Topps 1952-79, Bowman 1952-55, OPC 1965-71, and Pre-War White Sox cards
Very nice OPC's. Are you building the entire set?
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Very nice OPC's. Are you building the entire set? >>
Yes. I'm only 5 cards away from completing the set - then the endless upgrading will begin...
Collecting: Topps 1952-79, Bowman 1952-55, OPC 1965-71, and Pre-War White Sox cards
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Thank you. I am in the midst of upgrading my 1979 set. Yours look terrific, with very nice overall centering. The centering of my cards drags down my entire set.
If no one has asked you before, I will. With all the cards you show every Satruday, why the heck are they still not graded? You show raw cards from the 70's every weekend that look like they have a shot at 10's. I actually on check this thread when I see you were the last one to reply.
Very nice cards! With regard to the 77's, the common thread is that all of those players had 2 rookie cards printed, of course, in 2 different years.
BTW, thanks again for the 79's you sold me a couple of weeks ago. They're very nice.
Nick
<< <i>Brett,
If no one has asked you before, I will. With all the cards you show every Satruday, why the heck are they still not graded? You show raw cards from the 70's every weekend that look like they have a shot at 10's. I actually on check this thread when I see you were the last one to reply. >>
I'm really not interested in having my cards graded. I prefer them raw so I can more clearly see them (which is becoming increasingly difficult with my cruddy eyesight). It's also less expensive and raw cards take up less space than slabbed ones. The only reason I've ever had cards graded is for the Set Registry, on which I have 2 1972 FB sets (Topps and OPC CFL). Grading would come in handy if I want to maximize re-sale value, but I don't plan on selling any cards. The only cards I sell are dups that I accumulate from the never-ending process of upgrading.
I just keep 'em all inside top loaders with penny sleeves. They stay well-protected and I can handle them much better than inside sheets/folders. I've always been a stats freak and still spend many hours looking at the card backs. I can more clearly read cards (with the aid of a magnifying glass) in a top loader than in a slab.
<< <i>I would just like to know where you keep getting cards for upgrades. I can never seem to find any raw cards anywhere that compare to yours. The 72's you sent me were apperantly leftovers from upgrades and even those were awesome. >>
Although most of the cards I display in this thread were purchased raw, many were crackouts from PSA or SGC. My 1972 set has the highest percentage of crackouts, probably about 35-40%. Most of the raw upgrades I got for that set came from Wheat State Cards on eBay. They broke up a high grade set and listed each card at BIN prices nearly 2 years ago. I just stumbled upon 'em. Other raw pick ups have been from a few individual eBay sellers. I just happened to get lucky a few times. I will no longer buy raw cards for my 1972 set, though. I can't trust sellers of raw cards to provide the quality I now seek.
As for my other 1970's sets I buy mainly from Mickey's Sportscards, Burbank Sportscards, and Jeff Kling (klinger83 or eBay). Kling has weekly set breaks from which I find many cards. Some are a little over-graded, but I'm very particular about which cards to pursue. If I study the scans carefully and give no card the benefit of the doubt, I probably achieve about a 90% satisfaction rate with his cards. Plus, I usually get 'em fairly cheap and shipping is more than reasonable. Geez, I sound like a commercial.
Edit: Bill, thanks for the kind words about the '72's I sent you. Those were all holdovers from my childhood, long before TPG. I managed to keep a good number of my cards in fine shape. As I continue to upgrade, though, cards like the ones I sent you no longer satisfy me. It seems look "good" is never going to be "good enough."
What type of grade could this card pull if I sent it in to PSA??
Thanks for the input.
ADAM
Great 1957's, HighChopper. I absolutely LOVE that set. The baggie uniforms, the cap logos, and the old-stlye ballbarks speak of a much simpler era when baseball, among other things, was far more enjoyable. For the record, I was born in 1964, but I've always felt that I was born 20 years too late.
Indy78, excellent '75's. I've been slowly upgrading my set for about a year and half now and have found high-grade raw cards very hard to come by. Your cards look terrific.
Most of my 70's sets are mid-grade, but this one I can't stop upgrading - it's gotten to the point that I've almost created a second set through upgrading alone. In any event, it's a slow process, as you know, whether working within a budget or not.
Raw: Tony Gonzalez (low #'d cards, and especially 1/1's) and Steve Young.
Those 75's are sharp too. I always like that 75 Kaline card.
Ok, since nobody else has stepped forward, I'll take a stab at it. All of those depicted players played with one team/organization for their entire careers. Off the top of my head, there is a slight nuance for Dick Green in that he played for the A's in Kansas City and Oakland. But I believe it's the same organization, just two different cities.
<< <i>Those are beautiful 72's.
Ok, since nobody else has stepped forward, I'll take a stab at it. All of those depicted players played with one team/organization for their entire careers. Off the top of my head, there is a slight nuance for Dick Green in that he played for the A's in Kansas City and Oakland. But I believe it's the same organization, just two different cities. >>
Indy,
Very nicely done! You are correct. Each man spent his entire big league playing career with one organization. Yes, the A's began in Philadelphia, moved to KC, and are currently in Oakland. Mgr Bob Lemon (KC) played his entire big league career with the Cleveland Indians.
Good luck with your 1975 Mini set. Looks like you are off to a great start.
Today's raw pick up from East Coast National show. Hard to find these centered and mint.
<< <i>Love those 77s. Nice cards.
Thanks, Bobby.
Nice Rose AS, cpettimd.
1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Ozzie Smith
2006 Bowman Chrome Orange Refractor Chris Carpenter
First is an 1893 Arbuckle Brothers depicting baseball...nice writeup on the back of the card:
Next are some 1954 NY Journal cards that were issued at newstands when buying the paper (these
are the creme colored cards)...the orange ones are 1958 SanFrancisco Call Bulletin that were issued
about the same way:
And finally, a 1970 Dodge postcard w/Tarkenton and a 1959 LA Dodgers postcard with John Roseboro:
Hope you like them!
-Claude
Collecting: Topps 1952-79, Bowman 1952-55, OPC 1965-71, and Pre-War White Sox cards
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