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Offer up a nice group of classic type coins on the BST....give mention that the lot has an approx $2,000 greysheet wholesale value, and get flamed for being a "CON-MAN!". What the heck is going on? I have had deals with members on this board. I am extremely active here for over 5 months posting almost daily, and almost never about selling something, and all the sudden im the bad guy. I have learned 2 things. Although my offering was unorthodox to say the least, its much more honest than selling "OBW" shotgun rolls of 1909 cents. The 2 things I have learned are #1 dont attempt to sell WHOLESALE lots for WHOLESALE prices. People will think you are trying to efff them somehow. #2 there are alot of unscroupulous members in here. I had a few members PM me and try to tell me my group was worth melt only!image Also had one guy say my stuff was "junk box" material! image Anyway, rant over....lessons learned.image
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    You should have priced them through the moon. Then someone would PM you asking for wholesale. image
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    You never replied to my post. image


  • << <i>You should have priced them through the moon. Then someone would PM you asking for wholesale. image >>




    LOL...ya think? It will be best to break the group and sell seperately. I will begin that process Sunday. Do you think I would try to pull a fast one on anyone? It was a simple deal. Group (that means not individually imaged nor described) of nice U.S. classic type coins on the cheap for low end sheet money. Instead of actual offers, all I get are lowballs and snide remarks about how im some sort of scammer. Oh well. Im positive they will fetch well over 2k on the bay when imaged seperately and sold that way. I tried to give someone here a nice start on their type set.


  • << <i>You never replied to my post. image >>




    Check the BST...I most certainley did.image
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just remember, they are only worth what someone is willing to pay for. I have no idea what you were trying to sell, but I suspect it may have been common date stuff that's difficult to sell at a premium to "educated" collectors on the BST forum. Suggest you sell those on eBay for a much better return.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    I wouldn't sweat it as there is always someone that will disagree over value and always someone to bust on you over nothing. I still hold the record for the most death wishes in a single thread. image
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To sell them separately, you would actually have to list them, which you said was too hard because you cannot type. I think the responses on the BST board was based more on you than on what you were selling.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    There is no mention of the value in your initial post. You failed to provide images. You failed to provide date/mm information. You only have yourself to blame.
  • And by the way BOOM, no, those are not my widgets from my sig line. These are some of my widgets:

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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    You ask for $6000 yet say that it's NOW NOT worth 6K in this post?


    Make up your mind Gecko!


    Is this your resonse to ME? image




  • << <i>There is no mention of the value in your initial post. You failed to provide images. You failed to provide date/mm information. You only have yourself to blame. >>




    The mention of value comes a few posts into the thread as I hadnt had a final price in mind at the very second they were listed. I wanted to see what offers were out there. I provided a nice picture of the group (again, group means as a whole, not individually). I mentioned that date/mm did not matter as all coins were common material (thats usually what type collectors go after anyway).
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭
    Gecko. I am surprised, to say the least, that you decided to bring your debacle from the BST over here, and for what purpose?. Your initial attempt to sell was plainly inadequate, and you were told this, in many ways. You are getting an invaluable lesson. I hope you get from the coin forum just what you are looking for, whatever that may be. Well anyway, good luck with it. image


  • << <i>You ask for $6000 yet say that it's NOW NOT worth 6K in this post?


    Make up your mind Gecko!


    Is this your resonse to ME? image >>




    Perhaps you should try reading once in awhile. For starters, read this OP, and tell me again how I had arrived at the "$6,000" asking price.image
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    It's your attitude.
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭
    You're bound to find low ball comments. Don't take any of it personally.

    The coins are nice.

    HAPPY COLLECTING!!!
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's your attitude. >>



    Think so?

    Ken
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>To sell them separately, you would actually have to list them, which you said was too hard because you cannot type. I think the responses on the BST board was based more on you than on what you were selling. >>




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  • << <i>You're bound to find low ball comments. Don't take any of it personally.

    The coins are nice. >>



    The coins ARE nice, and at 2k im doing two people a favor. Im helping myself by avoiding all the work to image/describe each coin, and whoever would have bought the lot would have gotten some very nice classic type coins for FAR less than buying them individually. Oh well, like Jerry said, maybe IM the jagoff.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Well, Gecko! Let's see. First there's your title

    Anyone want to buy this group for $6,000 before it goes to ebay?

    And in your text you ask for 6K. image

    Maybe THAT's "How"!image


  • << <i>Well, Gecko! Let's see. First there's your title

    Anyone want to buy this group for $6,000 before it goes to ebay?

    And in your text you ask for 6K. image

    Maybe THAT's "How"!image >>



    At first BOOM, I had no price in mind. Then when asked, I tallied them up quickly and found them to be worth roughly 2k in wholesale sheet value. I then began getting offers of $80, $125, $150 (shipped:Funnyimage, and $250. I then thought to myself BOOM, if its perfectly fine for these members to offer me 1/10th the real value of the lot, it then must be ok for me to ask for 3 times the real value of the lot. Do you get it yet numbskull?image


  • << <i>Well, Gecko! Let's see. First there's your title

    Anyone want to buy this group for $6,000 before it goes to ebay?

    And in your text you ask for 6K. image

    Maybe THAT's "How"!image >>



    Agreed. Initially asking for $6k, then stating greysheet in only $2k can tick some people off---plus your attitude.
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Agreed. Initially asking for $6k, then stating greysheet in only $2k can tick some people off---plus your attitude. >>



    I will defend Gecko on this. He did not ask 6 grand for the coins at first. He had the attitude though.

    Ken


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    << <i>Agreed. Initially asking for $6k, then stating greysheet in only $2k can tick some people off---plus your attitude. >>



    I will defend Gecko on this. He did not ask 6 grand for the coins at first. He had the attitude though.

    Ken >>




    Well thanks for not calling me a liar Ken.image He is correct though. I ONLY listed it for 6k AFTER about 6 lowball offers that ranged from $80-$250.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    AND. exactly what did I calmly suggest to you in my post?

    Instead you ran here, poured gas on yourself with a lighter in your hand. image
  • vplitevplite Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭
    This has been a humorous thread, especially on BST.

    gecko109 has gotten an education on selling and many posters on the board have had some fun at gecko109's expense.

    I imagine the education will continue when gecko109 lists on ebay.

    The main lessons:

    1) Coins are a whole lot more fun to buy than to sell.

    2) Offering a large mixed group of "average" coins to a group of knowledgeable collectors for "Gray Sheet" bid will get you a lot of horse laugh.
    The Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules.
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Then you run here and proudly proclaim,

    << Of course this group IS NOT worth $6,000, or even remotely close.>>

    WTF, Gecko??image
  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    BST and ebay run about even IMHO. image
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



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    Instead you ran here, poured gas on yourself with a lighter in your hand. image >>



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  • << <i>Then you run here and proudly proclaim,

    << Of course this group IS NOT worth $6,000, or even remotely close.>>

    WTF, Gecko??image >>




    Wow.....simply wow! It appears you wouldnt know what sarcasm was if it smacked you in the face.image
  • percybpercyb Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭✭
    Thank God it's Friday.
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  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Sarcasm? Ha, surely you jest!

    I came in, saw a title for some lot of non descript coins for 6K, saw you were gettimg your ass handed to you on a platter and calmly told you to step back and take a look at the picture from the other side, with the rest of us.

    At NO TIME did I ever hear you offer these coins for 2K.

    As far as I'm concerned, seeing what I have thus far, I've seen enough. I have no desire to have any part of this sideshow.


    Get a grip, Dude!

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  • << <i>Sarcasm? Ha, surely you jest!

    I came in, saw a title for some lot of non descript coins for 6K, saw you were gettimg your ass handed to you on a platter and calmly told you to step back and take a look at the picture from the other side, with the rest of us.

    At NO TIME did I ever hear you offer these coins for 2K.

    As far as I'm concerned, seeing what I have thus far, I've seen enough. I have no desire to have any part of this sideshow.


    Get a grip, Dude!

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    First page.....half way down....$2,000 value (unedited post). Perhaps try READING once in awhile BOOM.image
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Maybe YOU should have read my post to your OP.

    I can read & write just fine, Thank you!image
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I understand his intent was good, but why he couldn't provide a list is beyond me.

    Taking the time to type a list is NOT as time consuming as posting on Ebay and takes about the same time as does responding to this thread.

    Looked like some nice coins there.

    Too bad there was no list and an individual grey sheet prices. Would have definitely helped.

    I might have put in a good bid.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • << <i>I understand his intent was good, but why he couldn't provide a list is beyond me.

    Taking the time to type a list is NOT as time consuming as posting on Ebay and takes about the same time as does responding to this thread.

    Looked like some nice coins there.

    Too bad there was no list and an individual grey sheet prices. Would have definitely helped.

    I might have put in a good bid. >>




    If im going to type a list, I might as well photo each coin, and by that token then sell them at AUCTION, where they will realize maximum exposure and price. If I wanted to be lazy, and just post a group pic (with seperate pics upon request as stated in the OP), then I expect a much lower final sale price because it was less work. Why dont people get that concept?
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    Phil,

    What part of the following did you NOT comprehend? Maybe YOU should take time to READ and to listen!

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    Geck,

    Is this the widget set you refer to on your sig line? Seriously, is it?

    Now take a minute to chill, OK? Get over here on this side of the fence with the rest of us for a couple minutes.

    Now, look at your picture the way we see it. Here's a guy that's been posting for 4 Months, offers no hard information, no detailed descriptions.

    He lays out some coins and throws out a number - THAT'S IT! Now, would YOU (based on what you SEE) throw $6000 out - on an indescript lot of coins that could very well be fraught with problems?

    Now, C'mon Geck! Chill. It doesn't work like that & you KNOW you would NOT throw 6K out on stuff you have little more than a pic and a few words to go on .... and YOU KNOW IT!

    You want to sell or work something out? I'll listen, OK?

    Just relax and have a look at this as if they were not your coins and someone you do not know did as you have.

    Ask yourself, what you would say or do if the shoes were the other way around.

    When you calm down, PM me, OK?

    It'll be OK!
  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>You're bound to find low ball comments. Don't take any of it personally.

    The coins are nice. >>



    The coins ARE nice, and at 2k im doing two people a favor. Im helping myself by avoiding all the work to image/describe each coin, and whoever would have bought the lot would have gotten some very nice classic type coins for FAR less than buying them individually. Oh well, like Jerry said, maybe IM the jagoff. >>



    Why not post them on the BST with an asking price? Recently, it seems like there are a lot of "make me an offer" type postings on the BST, trolling for bids.

    The procedure used to be that you posted a coin for sale with a price, or got flamed.
  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,979 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's your attitude. >>



    Think so?

    Ken >>



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  • I hope some one posts the damn popcorn gif 'cause I'm tired of doin' it....!!!....
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In reading this post and the other one in the BST forum, I'm concluding that everyone feels that Gecko109 is in the wrong.

    When this happens and the OP does not waver on his reasons why he posted it in the first place, or his resulting comments, I have to say that I'm very hesitant to have any future dealings with him, as he has shown himself to be very stubborn, unyielding in his decisions, and shall I say, a 'hothead'.

    Just the type of customer/vendor you do not want to be dealing with.

    Sorry....just telling it like it is.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Popcorn.. where's the damn popcorn??? image Cheers, RickO
  • Gecko, all people wanted was a list of what was there, dates and mintmarks. And if you'd at least have flipped them all over and done a reverse shot, that would've helped some of them. You said it was too much typing, but c'mon... type a list. Number it 1 to whatever number of coins it was, put the coin, date and MM beside it, and go to the next coin. That would've been a good start.

    For someone who can't take the time to do that, you sure have done a lot of posting trying to argue with everyone.

    Would YOU buy $2,000 worth of coins by just one group shot where you can't see dates, condition, mintmarks?? I don't think many people here would - please be fair.

    I've been over at BST a lot lately looking for things and saw the whole post. People were ribbing you but some were giving you good helpful advice, not being mean. And I'm not being mean either so don't flame me over this! Just think of yourself as a buyer and what you'd like to know before you laid down 2 grand.

    AHOOKA ~ Where's the popcorn?? I'm buying the image
    Have bought and sold on BST, many references available when asked.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    drama

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  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are only a few people alive who could tell me "trust me, it's a good deal" and I wouldn't question it - for $200 or $200,000.

    Ruputations like that are earned over years, not 4 months. Could be that a few others share my sentiments.
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  • What a massive waste of time and energy.....Gecko you should either furnish the list or delete the listing altogether.

    You seem to have your mind made up about this and now you are doing nothing more then making it even worse with your lame arguments....

    As mentioned by several here, put yourself on the other end of this deal and you will understand the reception that your comments and opnions have received....or maybe you won't but utimately that is for you to decide.
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