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PCGS GUIDANCE - 2007 10th ANNIVERSARY PLATINUM EAGLES

- December 17, 2007
To commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Platinum American Eagle Coin Program, the U.S. Mint created a two-piece Proof set for sale to collectors, containing the following coins: 1) 2007-W $50 Proof – identical to the coins issued earlier this year, and 2) 2007-W $50 Reverse Proof – a completely new style for Proof platinum coins, with frosted fields and brilliant devices.
The American Eagle 10th Anniversary Platinum Coin Set is limited to 30,000 sets. The Mint began accepting orders for these sets on December 13, 2007, with an expected shipping date of December 31.

PCGS will recognize each of the coins from the 10th Anniversary Set with a separate coin number and a “10th Anniversary Set” designation. The First StrikeSM option will be available for the Reverse Proof $50 only and must be requested at the time of submission. Any coins received or postmarked within 30 days of the initial shipment date (to be announced) qualify for the First StrikeSM designation. There is a $10 fee for each First StrikeSM insert, in addition to the normal grading fees.

IMPORTANT REQUIREMENTS: All coins must be submitted in the original, sealed, unopened Mint packaging (the 2007-W $50 Proof was already issued earlier this year, thus the packaging must remain unopened for the coins to qualify for the 10th Anniversary Set designation). Because of the value of the individual coins, all submissions must be made under the Regular Service level or higher tiers. All 10th Anniversary set submissions should be made on a separate submission form clearly marked with the request “10th Anniversary Set Designation.” Mint packaging will be returned upon request at a cost of $2 per set (except in cases where PCGS ships using the customer’s account number, i.e. Fed-Ex and other services). Collectors and dealers may submit 10th Anniversary Platinum coins at coin shows, where a PCGS representative will confirm the seal on the Mint packaging, remove the coins (in their capsules), return the packaging to the customer, and sign the submission form confirming the “10th Anniversary Set” designation.


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  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    Finally! Thanks! image
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,931 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool!!!
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  • Great
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    About time.

    "Must use the regular submission" $30 grading (each coin) + $10 first strike (one coin) + shipping both ways. Ouch.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Bear gets his wish"

    Not entirely - there is one open issue. The regular issue coin does not get FS even though the gold and silver Proof did under the exact same circumstances? I have emailed PCGS just to make sure they intended for that inconsistent treatment of the Anniv Eagle Plat proofs.

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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    so this is different by not giving a FS designation to the proof.

    the other anniversary sets got one, correct?

    would this be a deterrant to keeping the sets sealed as there will be many more in this anniversary set of the proof than issued by the mint?

    BTW thanks for posting

    ps i see wondercoin posted above me with answers.... :-)

  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>so this is different by not giving a FS designation to the proof.

    the other anniversary sets got one, correct?

    would this be a deterrant to keeping the sets sealed as there will be many more in this anniversary set of the proof than issued by the mint?

    BTW thanks for posting

    ps i see wondercoin posted above me with answers.... :-) >>



    Does it really matter? You still have to keep it sealed to get the 10th anniversary label for the proof. Just this label alone separates it from the standard issue.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Does it really matter?"

    Did it matter to the highly collectible Proof Gold FS 20th Anniv coin? Of course it did - right?

    Wondercoin
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  • Fair enough, at least PCGS will recognize the 2007-W $50 Proof from the set with a 10th anniversary label, though not the First Strike® designation. The $50 10th anniversary Proof still should be the key to a perfect 10th anniversary set and command a premium over the non - 10th anniversary, non First Strike® designated 2007-W $50 Proof.

    I wonder if the PR70DCAM First Strike® non - 10th anniversary $50 Proof will sell for more than the PR70DCAM non - First Strike®, 10th anniversary Proof since the 2007-W First Strike® PR70DCAM $50 Proof currently has a population of just 56 coins and the 2007-W $50 10th anniversary PR70DCAM pop will surley be higher.
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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Fair enough, at least PCGS will recognize the 2007-W $50 Proof from the set with a 10th anniversary label, though not the First Strike® designation. Still should be the key to a perfect 10th anniversary set and command a premium over the non - 10th anniversary, non First Strike® designated 2007-W $50 Proof. I wonder if the PR70DCAM First Strike® non - 10th anniversary $50 Proof will sell for more than the PR70DCAM non - First Strike®, 10th anniversary Proof since the 2007-W First Strike® PR70DCAM $50 Proof currently has a population of just 56 coins and the 2007-W $50 10th anniversary PR70DCAM pop will surley be higher. >>



    you couldn't have been more conciseimage



  • jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How many do we have to send in to get bulk?
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How many do we have to send in to get bulk? >>

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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    May heaven and HRH be praised.image
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>"Does it really matter?"

    Did it matter to the highly collectible Proof Gold FS 20th Anniv coin? Of course it did - right?

    Wondercoin >>



    I have the regular proof 20th anniversary gold coin in proof 69 First Strike that I picked up for melt on Teletrade.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I have the regular proof 20th anniversary gold coin in proof 69 First Strike that I picked up for melt on Teletrade."

    Even more of a reason to maintain consistency between all 3 metals!

    Wondercoin

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  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>May heaven and HRH be praised.image >>



    I for one am very happy that Bear is happy.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Eric, on another thread had reported 14,000+ Platinum sets ordered.

    Ren
  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
    image...Never thought they wouldn't image...Way I read it, the special label for the "regular" proof will be no extra charge. $60-coins..$10 for FS...$5 fee...plus 2 for box return.. $15?-return post=$92 to get slabbed. No problem here image ............Edit to include the extra 2 bucks for box return.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>May heaven and HRH be praised.image >>



    I for one am very happy that Bear is happy.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Eric, on another thread had reported 14,000+ Platinum sets ordered.

    Ren >>



    How's that possible, this ebay seller says.........Sell out Imminent image
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>May heaven and HRH be praised.image >>



    I for one am very happy that Bear is happy.

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Eric, on another thread had reported 14,000+ Platinum sets ordered.

    Ren >>



    How's that possible, this ebay seller says.........Sell out Imminent image >>



    It depends on his definition of "is" is. Also, he predicts a possible 1,000% appreciation. Dang, I should've bought more sets...wait...I can because they are still for sale.

    Ren
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭

    no reason to not give the proof first strike. what's the difference anyway. $10 an order more PCGS, come on, that's easy money...

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>no reason to not give the proof first strike. what's the difference anyway. $10 an order more PCGS, come on, that's easy money... >>

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    edited to say:

    I think I'm changing my mind on the proof first strike....it was struck several months ago, and it should not have the designation the more I consider it.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I haven't understood people getting their panties in a twist over this.....NONE have been shipped/received yet, so it isn't like PCGS was running out of time.
    People need to relax at times and just take a deep breath....

    I really laughed seeing the "well fine then! We'll take out coins over to NGC and PCGS will lose the the fees".... image Funny little threats.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "I think I'm changing my mind on the proof first strike....it was struck several months ago, and it should not have the designation the more I consider it."

    Goldbully - The reason the coin should be a First Strike is that it will be receiving A DIFFERENT COIN NUMBER ALL TOGETHER. Just as PCGS had the regular Proof Gold Eagle from the 20th Anniv set last year receive a separate First Strike on its new coin number - separate and apart from the $50 Proof Gold Eagle First Strike of 2/06 when it was released as part of the 4 pc annual Proof Gold set 8 months earlier.

    Wondercoin


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  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    I will have you know my shorts are not twisted.

    My T shirt, however, might be a tad snug. image
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"I think I'm changing my mind on the proof first strike....it was struck several months ago, and it should not have the designation the more I consider it."

    Goldbully - The reason the coin should be a First Strike is that it will be receiving A DIFFERENT COIN NUMBER ALL TOGETHER. Just as PCGS had the regular Proof Gold Eagle from the 20th Anniv set last year receive a separate First Strike on its new coin number - separate and apart from the $50 Proof Gold Eagle First Strike of 2/06 when it was released as part of the 4 pc annual Proof Gold set 8 months earlier.

    Wondercoin >>




    Good point, Wondercoin....I did not know that.

    OK, let me think on it.

    I would love the FS designation on my proof, that's a fact....just being greedy here. image
  • First Strike doesn't mean First Strike of the Mintage. We ALL KNOW THAT.

    It means exactly how the RP is labeled.

    Since that $50 Proof Coin is still in a SEALED box, it is part of the set and can NOT be swapped out.

    What Mitch said is right on.

    PCGS just 'forgot'.

    I am sure they will correct and rather than be inconsistent!

    Right?....image
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt


    For the early AM forum members, in case you mised this one!!!!!!!
  • planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I haven't understood people getting their panties in a twist over this.....NONE have been shipped/received yet, so it isn't like PCGS was running out of time.
    People need to relax at times and just take a deep breath....

    I really laughed seeing the "well fine then! We'll take out coins over to NGC and PCGS will lose the the fees".... image Funny little threats. >>



    I kinda liked the thought of being able to open the box and view the coins before submitting them, but I guess I'll just go with the flow of the hobby.

    What I find is also funny here is that, as Coinlearner points out, this exercise will cost between $90-100 for each set; yet the same hue and cry about the CAC sticker amounting to a "tax" on coin sales is all but silent here.
  • wow PCGS is certainly making this 10th Anniversary Set interesting. I really don't understand the logic, but it is their show right....
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gyro - You of all people - a Red Sox diehard fan - know better than anyone -

    IT AIN'T OVER TILL ITS OVER!!

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  • gyromacgyromac Posts: 213 ✭✭
    mitch...

    it is just humorous watching this game unfold....


  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    I just wish they would hurry up and make a decision so I can decide on keeping the set or not.
  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's a 5 coin minimum under the "regular" service level in the announcement ($30ea.).

    Are they still enforcing the minimum or is this some kind of exception? The mint limits purchases to 1 set (2 coins), and these coins have to be separate from other submissions. Most regular people will only be submitting 2 coins. Are you sure we don't have to use the "Express Special" submission level?

    Edited to add: Or is it possible to submit 3 other regular service level coins on a separate form in the same shipment?
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭
    It looks like the Guidance has changed. Am I now reading that they are giving First Strike to both coins now?

    PCGS will offer special First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts for these coins subject to the following special limitations:

    1. All coins must be submitted in the original, unopened Mint packaging as received from the Mint within 30 days of the original release date (to be announced) or sealed and postmarked within that 30 day period. Because the 2007-W $50 Regular Proof was already issued earlier this year, the packaging must remain unopened for these coins to qualify for these special inserts.
    Individual submissions of the 2007-W $50 Reverse Proof will qualify for First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts as long as they are received within 30 days of their original release dates.


  • << <i>It looks like the Guidance has changed. Am I now reading that they are giving First Strike to both coins now?

    PCGS will offer special First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts for these coins subject to the following special limitations:

    1. All coins must be submitted in the original, unopened Mint packaging as received from the Mint within 30 days of the original release date (to be announced) or sealed and postmarked within that 30 day period. Because the 2007-W $50 Regular Proof was already issued earlier this year, the packaging must remain unopened for these coins to qualify for these special inserts.
    Individual submissions of the 2007-W $50 Reverse Proof will qualify for First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts as long as they are received within 30 days of their original release dates. >>


    Yep, both coins will now be designated First Strike® - 10th anniversary image All those that canceled are going to be sick when they see what a perfect 70 set goes for image
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "It looks like the Guidance has changed. Am I now reading that they are giving First Strike to both coins now?"

    The regular proof coin is no longer "junk" - I worked real hard to have Ron reconsider that particular issue. You guys approve?

    Wondercoin

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  • << <i>"It looks like the Guidance has changed. Am I now reading that they are giving First Strike to both coins now?"

    The regular proof coin is no longer "junk" - I worked real hard to have Ron reconsider that particular issue. You guys approve?

    Wondercoin >>


    Great News! Thanks for Lobbying for us Wondercoin. I think it will work out the best for everyone, this way makes everybody happy image
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  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone have an answer for my questions?
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It looks like the Guidance has changed. Am I now reading that they are giving First Strike to both coins now?

    PCGS will offer special First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts for these coins subject to the following special limitations:

    1. All coins must be submitted in the original, unopened Mint packaging as received from the Mint within 30 days of the original release date (to be announced) or sealed and postmarked within that 30 day period. Because the 2007-W $50 Regular Proof was already issued earlier this year, the packaging must remain unopened for these coins to qualify for these special inserts.
    Individual submissions of the 2007-W $50 Reverse Proof will qualify for First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts as long as they are received within 30 days of their original release dates. >>




    Original guidance:

    PCGS will recognize each of the coins from the 10th Anniversary Set with a separate coin number and a “10th Anniversary Set” designation. The First StrikeSM option will be available for the Reverse Proof $50 only and must be requested at the time of submission. Any coins received or postmarked within 30 days of the initial shipment date (to be announced) qualify for the First StrikeSM designation. There is a $10 fee for each First StrikeSM insert, in addition to the normal grading fees.


    Guidance has definitely changed!!!!!! Thanks for noticing!!!!!!!!

    First Strike for BOTH coins it is!!!!! image

    New Guidance:

    PCGS will offer special First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts for these coins subject to the following special limitations:

    1. All coins must be submitted in the original, unopened Mint packaging as received from the Mint within 30 days of the original release date (to be announced) or sealed and postmarked within that 30 day period. Because the 2007-W $50 Regular Proof was already issued earlier this year, the packaging must remain unopened for these coins to qualify for these special inserts.
    Individual submissions of the 2007-W $50 Reverse Proof will qualify for First StrikeSM/10th Anniversary Set inserts as long as they are received within 30 days of their original release dates........................





    PCGS Link
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone have an answer for my questions? >>



    Per PCGS guidance: "Because of the value of the individual coins, all submissions must be made under the Regular Service level or higher tiers."


    PCGS will accept just one submission on this issue.....99.9% sure!!!! image
  • gyromacgyromac Posts: 213 ✭✭
    way to go mitch....

    once again THE MVP of platinum comes through AGAIN!!!

    thank you from all of us!!!!

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"It looks like the Guidance has changed. Am I now reading that they are giving First Strike to both coins now?"

    The regular proof coin is no longer "junk" - I worked real hard to have Ron reconsider that particular issue. You guys approve?

    Wondercoin >>



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  • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭
    We all owe wondercoin a round of applause for his work on this one.
  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
    image...for those that may soon get themimage
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image...for those that may soon get themimage >>




    Flippers get some new life.........Wonder if the Mint cuts off PLAT set sales in Jan.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys.

    Now if the US Mint lifts the 1 set per household limit next week, that "new life" will be sucked out of you quicker than you've ever seen!!

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  • << <i>Thanks guys.

    Now if the US Mint lifts the 1 set per household limit next week, that "new life" will be sucked out of you quicker than you've ever seen!!

    Wondercoin >>


    Have they a reason to do that? Has the Mint done it before.? Would they be able to ship the remaining orders in time for the First Strike® cut-off image
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,980 ✭✭✭✭✭
    FBH - Didn't the Mint do that with the Proof Buffalos - limit 10 and then 500 or 1000 a month later??? Refresh my memory someone.

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  • I know the limit was 5,000 on the 2006-W Buffalo's. Anyway, I don't see why the Mint would raise the order limit at this point with over half the maximum mintage sold in a few days at a one-per-household limit unless they were looking to clear them out. Either way, I do feel they will sell out in a short while since they are starting to ship them now. I would expect a sellout before the end of the year.
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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭
    I don't think these coins are flippable with the exception of the 70 grade. The mint is seeing that they will go into collectors hands. Those die hard mint customers will either buy it now or probably never. Those entering the hobby in a few years may want one though. I will wait ten years. My sets will stay in my collection.

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