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Shipped the wrong coins to (2) ebay customers.....opinions UPDATE Just got a response from the OP.

We shipped (2) items on Fri Dec 7th to the same state, but wrong parties.

Customer #1 contacted us,He was suppose to receive a box with (10) 2007 w ASE's in mint packaging, He got (1) slabbed 2007 w ASE in a mailer envelope,

So I sent an email to customer #2 who was suppose to get the slabbed 2007 w ASE, (he has already left positive feedback which leads me to believe he opened the package)

In the email I explained the situation and ask him to please open the package asap so we can get this corrected..............so far no response............when #2 got it I would think he would have had to

pay postage due........it only had enough postage and insur. for (1) 80.00 coin...

Is there anyway I can find out if customer #2 had to pay postage due ? (it was first class mail insured) this way I'd know for sure he got the (10) ASE"s

Both parties have good feedback.

edited to add: customer #2 left me this feedback................

A good seller .Fast delivery a perfect present...


opinions please
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Been there, done that.

    Once.

    Messy and embarrassing, but came out OK in the end.

    Fortunately for me, neither of my parties ended up with a major windfall as a result of my error, but one of the coins involved was a Mint State Shield nickel in an ANACS MS61 slab. (Not the greatest looking coin- if it had been, who knows what woulda happened).

    This sounds unpleasant for you.

    But I shall cross my fingers and hope that you just gave a windfall to somebody with a conscience.

    If he does make good, send him a gift of some sort.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The situation... to date... does not sound good. Hope it works out... Cheers, RickO
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Unfortunately he would not have to pay postage due. The Post Office randomly checks packages for accuracy. If it is not accurate it gets returned to sender. If it makes it to the end chances are it was never checked for postage accuracy.

    I made this mistake once but it worked out OK in the end. In your case I hope it does also.
  • gtstanggtstang Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I once had a seller send me 2 coins. One was obviously not for me as I only won one. It was in a bubble mailer and I always just cut the very top open on them. I just put the one coin back in the bubble mailer and taped it up, wrote return to sender on it and dropped it in the mail box. Worked out fine.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I've done similar things-once to a forum member. I sent him a 70 when he paid for a 69. He was very helpful and even sent the 70 to the right customer. I forgot what I did for him but I remember I did something and he will always get my best prices.

    So far in my cases the customers have all been honest and things have been fine.

    As for postage due, the USPS delivers things in such a hurry that they don't seem to bother with postage due. I've occasionally accidently put the postage for 2 slabs on a 4 slab set and it gets delivered just fine.

    Good luck,
    Jerry
  • The buyer who bought one ASE and got 10 left you positive feedback? Cool.

    You should eat whatever you have to to make it right by both. Now if the guy who got the 10 doesn't cooperate, and if he hasn't mentioned his windfall, that don't sound good, and this could get sticky. Good luck.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i> You should eat whatever you have to to make it right by both. >>



    Knowing eric I don't think we have to remind him to take care of his customers.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭
    This very scenario just happened to me.

    Won a Low Leaf Quarter on EBay, received its sister coin, the hi leaf which was sold within a day on mine.

    It didn;t dawn on me until I actually started thinking about it and double checked the auction! The seller arranged a swap and picked up all the postage involved with me and the other buyer.

    There seems to be a lot of this occuring lately and I hope your #2 buyer turns out to be an honest person. If not, then there's not much else that could be said.

    As a seller on EBay, this is one of my biggest fears so I try to double checkl everything before it gets sealed up for shipment. Granted I don't do a high volume like the OP but all it takes is two auctions for this to occur.
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  • I assume the 10-coin purchase was not an eBay transaction. I saw no sales of 10 items in the time period you mentioned.

    The buyer who got the 10 coins - levand2005 - has not received feedback from you, so you have that small amount of leverage.

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    You should go ahead and get his eBay contact info so you can call him and not let him just ignore you. It may be hard to get the coins back--there may not be a legal requirement that he return them to you. He may intend to keep them, hence the "present" verbage.

    Worst case, he keeps the coins and you have to neg him.
    Best case, you hear back and he undoes the deal voluntarily.
    //ab

  • The (10) coins were ebay BIN @28.50 each........yeah the "present" thing bothers me!
  • Sounds like a very costly mistake.

    If I had received 10 and ordered one, I'd keep them. Not my problem. Thanks for the present.
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭
    If the guy who got the windfall turns out to keep the loot, please post his eBay handle here, so
    we can all refuse to do business with him again.
  • If I had received 10 and ordered one, I'd keep them. Not my problem. Thanks for the present.

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  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a very costly mistake.

    If I had received 10 and ordered one, I'd keep them. Not my problem. Thanks for the present. >>



    And that makes you dishonest scum. Please give me your name, address, and eBay handle so I can
    block you.
  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,266 ✭✭✭✭✭
    years ago when we started ebay we had similiar situation happen to us 2 times..... since then we changed our packing methods including video taping shipping to prevent this from happening.... both times we paid all shipping charges to straighten the mess out...then we sent each party a gift after as a way of going beyond in customer service..... its one of those things.... in the scope of real life.... a lot could be worse
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  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    Well a perfect present could mean that he is planning of giving the item to someone and it will be perfect. You have to be sure that you sent him 10 instead of 1 before you say anything bad about him. You could have sent out an extra package to someone else or the 10 coins were just misplaced somewhere.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • Just got this response from the OP:



    Hello,Im responding in refence to the coin that I ordered.I didn't open the package as it was a trade that I had made with a gentleman in hamburg germany.I just put on his address lable and sent it to him.I'm very sorry.If I can help you any futher please let me know. Robert
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Just got this response from this POS:



    Hello,Im responding in refence to the coin that I ordered.I didn't open the package as it was a trade that I had made with a gentleman in hamburg germany.I just put on his address lable and sent it to him.I'm very sorry.If I can help you any futher please let me know. Robert >>



    Now that sounds like BS !
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • << <i>Just got this response from this POS:

    Hello,Im responding in refence to the coin that I ordered.I didn't open the package as it was a trade that I had made with a gentleman in hamburg germany.I just put on his address lable and sent it to him.I'm very sorry.If I can help you any futher please let me know. Robert >>

    <sarcasm> Did you already leave him positive feedback? He's already held up his end of the deal by paying, don't you know... </sarcasm>

    Seriously, though- sorry to hear that.
  • fcfc Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭
    that guy has to be a slick willy! what an answer. oi!
  • I have done this, it happens when you ship a lot. I don't know if there is a way to find out other than asking them. Usually people are fine if you just talk to them and explain.
  • I have never negged anyone..........this might be the first!


  • << <i>Sounds like a very costly mistake.

    If I had received 10 and ordered one, I'd keep them. Not my problem. Thanks for the present. >>



    Jerk!!
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ask him to email you a image of the insurance slip to Hamburg Germany. I would not let him get away with just one lie to you.

    Sorry to hear about this happening to you.
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,657 ✭✭✭
    Time to out him, neg him, and send him a copy of this thread.

  • For anyone who wants to block this guy, his ebay name is.......levand2005


  • << <i>Just got this response from this POS:



    Hello,Im responding in refence to the coin that I ordered.I didn't open the package as it was a trade that I had made with a gentleman in hamburg germany.I just put on his address lable and sent it to him.I'm very sorry.If I can help you any futher please let me know. Robert >>



    Not sure if you have any recourse, you may have to suck it up to lesson learned. The guy is a dirt bag and should be outed so people can decide it they want to buy or sell to him on eBay.
  • DuPapaDuPapa Posts: 495 ✭✭
    Major Bummer
    Out the buyer so many eyes will watch to see if he starts selling 2007 w ASE's.

    That was the only answer he could have given to maintain a veil of honesty. I didn't open it so I don't know what was in it and I don't have it anymore.
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    andrew andrew andrew!
  • jdillanejdillane Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭
    A slick reply no doubt.

    Why not ask for the name address and phone of the Hamburg gent so that you can pursue directly? Will be interesting to see if that is provided. Might want to ask if he has done prior trades with this gent and if not how he came to be involved with such a trade.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That bites. The one time I swapped two eBay lots between customers, I arranged for them to swap with each other and paid their postage. All went well, but I had two honest buyers.

    Call the guy's bluff with the following:

    "Perfect! I have a brother-in-law stationed in Hamburg at the moment. I can have him facilitate the swap on that end. Let me know how to reach him, and I'll take care of it from here."

    If he responds with an actual mailing address, inform the postal service that this guy has likely underdeclared a package on a customs form headed to said address.

    Meanwhile, prepare to eat the loss, and ask the other buyer to bear with you for a short time while you see if there's any hope of pulling off the swap.


  • << <i>Call the guy's bluff with the following:

    "Perfect! I have a brother-in-law stationed in Hamburg at the moment. I can have him facilitate the swap on that end. Let me know how to reach him, and I'll take care of it from here." >>

    That would be a most excellent response. image
  • UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a very costly mistake.

    If I had received 10 and ordered one, I'd keep them. Not my problem. Thanks for the present. >>



    Scum.....
    I used to be somebody, now I'm just a coin collector.
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  • << <i>For anyone who wants to block this guy, his ebay name is.......levand2005 >>



    Its a chick, a fat one at that.
  • Wouldn't he have known something fishy about the size of the package?Takes a bigger package to mail 10 than it does one.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,435 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>For anyone who wants to block this guy, his ebay name is.......levand2005 >>



    Its a chick, a fat one at that. >>



    How can you tell? How is this person's weight and gender relevant?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,435 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sounds like a very costly mistake.

    If I had received 10 and ordered one, I'd keep them. Not my problem. Thanks for the present. >>



    Azz hole. What's your eBay name so we can block you, Andrew289? I'm sure no one here wants to deal with you in the future.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    i'd neg the guy ...and thanks for letting us know who it is

    what goes around comes around...you should let him know that, too

    sorry this happened to a good-egg like you



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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Before you neg him try this.

    Let him know that you will be glad to explain to customs how he shipped a package with a false value declared.



    edit typo

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  • DuPapaDuPapa Posts: 495 ✭✭
    "Perfect! I have a brother-in-law stationed in Hamburg at the moment. I can have him facilitate the swap on that end. Let me know how to reach him, and I'll take care of it from here."

    The likely reply;

    My buyer in who resides in Germany is a wealthy public figure who for security purposes wishes to keep his name and contact information private and is the reason I buy for him on eBay. Therefore, being the honest person that I am, I cannot and will not betray or violate the trust he has in me to maintain his personal security. I'm very sorry. If I can help you any futher please let me know. Robert


    Let him know that you will be glad to explain to customs how he shipped a package without a false value declared.

    Nothing got shipped to anywhere.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hello,Im responding in refence to the coin that I ordered.I didn't open the package as it was a trade that I had made with a gentleman in hamburg germany.I just put on his address lable and sent it to him.I'm very sorry.If I can help you any futher please let me know. Robert >>

    Man, that stinks.
  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭
    He doesn't seem very upset for sending off more than he should have for the trade to this guy in hamburg.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,640 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It might be reasonable to ask for a scan of his receipt showing a shipment to Hamburg.
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Technically he admitted recieving property he did not pay for and then disposing of it. If it were $1M it would be clear that he would be responsible for at least cooperating in the return of it. It is a bit of a fuzzy part of the law but by making up a story like that he admitted he might have it and I am sure there is legal precident for him to have some responsibility for returning it. The law doesn't recognize "Finders Keepers". --Jerry
  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭
    In response to another poster, it may very well be a plus sized women, as most of "its" purchases are at Lulu's which describes itself as a plus sized boutique.
    EDIT: Now she may be pregnant, as she bought a maternity outfit.
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>In response to another poster, it may very well be a plus sized women, as most of "its" purchases are at Lulu's which describes itself as a plus sized boutique. >>

    Or a plus sized cross dresser image
  • I have made the mistake twice, but only once in the sellers favor. They never returned the coins.
  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭
    In some of her other feedback for purchases, she thanks them for being honest sellers. "A good and honest seller I appreciate doing business with you.." But she is clearly not being very honest right now.
  • I would write it off as a loss for taxes. If you neg or threaten him, he may retaliate by sending you junk mag.
    subscriptions or pizzas delivered to your address or worse. I heard of a person receiving a package of rotting chicken and poop sent to him.

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  • << <i>Technically he admitted recieving property he did not pay for and then disposing of it. If it were $1M it would be clear that he would be responsible for at least cooperating in the return of it. It is a bit of a fuzzy part of the law but by making up a story like that he admitted he might have it and I am sure there is legal precident for him to have some responsibility for returning it. The law doesn't recognize "Finders Keepers". --Jerry >>



    I'm an evil person. If I were the person who had the extra silver eagles, I would probably for the most part just keep them.

    First -- one must admit that shipping errors are a cost of doing business. This is especially true of larger companies. The case presented here is simpler because it only involves two parties. But what if the seller were a multi-million dollar business who ships thousands of items every day? What happens then? Is the recipient of a misintended item then required to return the item to the seller because of the seller's fault in shipping?

    Second -- we are all biased here. We assume that just because a "forum member says so" it must be true. I agree with the OP in this case, in that he can politely ask and hope for a favorable response. If I were the recipient, I may question the seller's intent. Maybe he had "giver's remorse" or something.

    Third -- I would recommend more prudence in shipping. In today's litigious society, anything can happen. I once ordered a book on "Ada Programming Language" and instead got shipped a book that relates on how to prepare for death. If I were meanie, I would get an attorney and sue sue sue.

    Finally, related to this item, if I still had the item, and if the seller inquired, I would gladly return it. However, if I didn't have the item, it's umm, bad luck.

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