anyone else watching this auction?
GoldenEyeNumismatics
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this guy usually provides semi-deceptive pics and his coins usually go for moon money. Mostly though it's all under 2 grand. Looks like he's tried to make a move into the higher quality stuff here, and I'm interested to see how it pans out.
Coin looks like an AU. Dipped, but still a gradable AU.
this guy usually provides semi-deceptive pics and his coins usually go for moon money. Mostly though it's all under 2 grand. Looks like he's tried to make a move into the higher quality stuff here, and I'm interested to see how it pans out.
Coin looks like an AU. Dipped, but still a gradable AU.
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<< <i>FDC= fleur de coin? Who the hell still uses that term anymore? I much prefer PQ. >>
European auction houses and firms use the "FDC" term regularly. However, for someone to use it on EBay and apply it to a U.S. coin is really asking the prospective bidder(s) to come armed with knowledge that's a bit beyond what's expected of the average U.S. collector.
BTW- the coin is a dog...
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<< <i>621 people think his coins are great. I've been tempted, but I just can't seem to get past the "no return" thing.. >>
You're a smart buyer!
All you need to know.
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Thought "FDC" on all his auctions stood for "Freshly Dipped Coin"?
The first picture is an au 1916 quarter from the Heritage auction - totally genuine.
The second picture is this seller's 1916 SLQ he has currently for auction. Please notice the date under higher magnification.
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Am I watching the auctions? Not really as I hate to imagine the looks on some of these folks faces when their coins arrive and/or get rejected by one of the TPG's. Especially with that no return business and no PayPal!
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<< <i>Can someone zoom in on these two pictures I'm providing, because you may see quite a difference in the shape of the date, especially the "6".
The first picture is an au 1916 quarter from the Heritage auction - totally genuine.
The second picture is this seller's 1916 SLQ he has currently for auction. Please notice the date under higher magnification.
I noticed the exact same thing, but I'm pretty sure the coin's real.
that looks ok
The 9 looks a bit strange too.
SCANS MISLEADING. NGC REFUSED TO SLAB THE COIIN. ENHANCED SURFACES
ERRIR!! ERROR!! CAME BACK FROM NGC AS HAVING MODIFIED SURFACES. SCANS MISLEADING
SCANS MISLEADING. NGC REFUSED TO SLAB THE COIIN. ENHANCED SURFACES
FEEDBACK MISTAKE. COIN CAME BACK FROM NGC AS IMPROPERLY CLEANED. MISLEADING SCAN
FEEDBACK MISTAKE. SELLERS SCANS ARE DESIGNED TO HIDE PROBLEMS/IMPERFECTIONS
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<< <i>Payment by Money Order, Cashier's/Certified Check, sorry NO PAYPAL or credit cards, items sold as is and all sales final as estate settlement does not allow for returns.
All you need to know.
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He says he inherited these coins from his grandfather, but then he says estate settlement does not allow for returns. Seems very contradictory to me. If he inherited the coins, then the estate settlement has to be final, otherwise he couldn't sell the coins. So if he owns the coins, the estate settlement wouldn't matter in terms of whether coins could be returned. If the estate settlement isn't final and he is selling them for the estate, then his statement about inheriting the coins isn't true. In either of the two possible scenarios, he is lying.
No bids from me.
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<< <i>Caveat Emptor......read some of the "Pos. Feeback" that he received...
SCANS MISLEADING. NGC REFUSED TO SLAB THE COIIN. ENHANCED SURFACES
ERRIR!! ERROR!! CAME BACK FROM NGC AS HAVING MODIFIED SURFACES. SCANS MISLEADING
SCANS MISLEADING. NGC REFUSED TO SLAB THE COIIN. ENHANCED SURFACES
FEEDBACK MISTAKE. COIN CAME BACK FROM NGC AS IMPROPERLY CLEANED. MISLEADING SCAN
FEEDBACK MISTAKE. SELLERS SCANS ARE DESIGNED TO HIDE PROBLEMS/IMPERFECTIONS >>
Don't forget this one: This coin I paid 1600+ for is cleaned, hairlined, and slightly worn......I Lose
Oh yeah, maybe the attorney's on the board could answer this?
"Payment by Money Order, Cashier's/Certified Check, sorry NO PAYPAL or credit cards, items sold as is and all sales final as estate settlement does not allow for returns.
Is that true? Not only that but I got the impression that these were left to him but then that's the impression that his auction text leaves with you. A Closer read could be interpreted that he is settling his granfather's estate with the exception of this line:
"I AM SELLING ALL MY COINS FROM MY INHERITANCE AT NO RESERVE"
Still, no returns and no buyers recourse (no paypal, no credit cards) when they discovered they've been duped is a huge red flag waving in the breeze! Of course this is not even mentioning the possible schill bidding going on here but I've discussed that one before and got shot down!
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centsles ( 32157 [Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999] )
Oct-09-07 10:20
1894-S Barber Quarter FDC Unc Pristine - Among the Best (#230170277740) US $1,576.51
<< <i>This is the feedback I like the most. Funny thing he should post that.
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centsles ( 32157 [Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999] )
Oct-09-07 10:20
1894-S Barber Quarter FDC Unc Pristine - Among the Best (#230170277740) US $1,576.51 >>
That's easy, just cut and paste!
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<< <i>Payment by Money Order, Cashier's/Certified Check, sorry NO PAYPAL or credit cards, items sold as is and all sales final as estate settlement does not allow for returns.
All you need to know.
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He says he inherited these coins from his grandfather, but then he says estate settlement does not allow for returns. Seems very contradictory to me. If he inherited the coins, then the estate settlement has to be final, otherwise he couldn't sell the coins. So if he owns the coins, the estate settlement wouldn't matter in terms of whether coins could be returned. If the estate settlement isn't final and he is selling them for the estate, then his statement about inheriting the coins isn't true. In either of the two possible scenarios, he is lying.
No bids from me. >>
maybe there are others involved in the sales proceeds. But I still wouldn't bid over melt.
<< <i>A couple of buyers think they got burned, including someone named "centsles".......
karma can be a bee-yatch, eh?
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Hoard the keys.
Too fishy.
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Luckily, none of this touches me, as he has nothing I am interested in.
and yes, the date on that 16 SLQ looks funky, and since when did you guys start valuing centsles opinion?
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Well the first thing p[opped into mind- why not have it slabbed and authenticated as genuine and attach a grade to it!
lo and behold- this person is selling coins FDC i might add at moon money-
and now some have come out of the closet
I saw these coins 3 years ago- same place- different seller (now)- it's bull sh*iT and we as a collecting group can't slow it down- no matter what we say.
I posted 16 questions to this clown- on 16 different items he had- no response whatsoevere.
Is he lame/a thief/ someone who can't wait to be caught and can hide?
I'm guessing he fits #2 & 3...
I hate being brutally honest.
<< <i>I hope you guys are not ripping this auctions apart, just to drive fellow board members away
Luckily, none of this touches me, as he has nothing I am interested in.
and yes, the date on that 16 SLQ looks funky, and since when did you guys start valuing centsles opinion? >>
Opinion? Pfffft. It's karma, baby - karma.
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<< <i>I hope you guys are not ripping this auctions apart, just to drive fellow board members away
Luckily, none of this touches me, as he has nothing I am interested in.
and yes, the date on that 16 SLQ looks funky, and since when did you guys start valuing centsles opinion? >>
Opinion? Pfffft. It's karma, baby - karma. >>
he does deserve what he gets IMHO
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
<< <i>and since when did you guys start valuing centsles opinion? >>
I don't think anyone is valuing his opinion. I think it is funny that centsles would leave that type of feedback since he slabs his own coins and they are so over graded that on a good day his MS70's and PR70DCAM's would probably get a body bag by the major graders.
If you can't see the comedy in that then you are not paying attention.
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<< <i>and since when did you guys start valuing centsles opinion? >>
I don't think anyone is valuing his opinion. I think it is funny that centsles would leave that type of feedback since he slabs his own coins and they are so over graded that on a good day his MS70's and PR70DCAM's would probably get a body bag by the major graders.
If you can't see the comedy in that then you are not paying attention. >>
Oh I did miss that point, its why I just spit soda all over my keyboard
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
Why do these coin collectors always think that there's a 'hidden' treasure around every corner?
I believe the truth is: if these coins were that good, then the owner would have them slabbed and put them in a high profile auction for sale.
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"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
want to see.
even with those crappy pics i can tell the coin has problems and
the winner will be disappointed.
grade from a pic?, sure can. i grade it disappointment.
<< <i>This is the feedback I like the most. Funny thing he should post that.
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centsles ( 32157 [Feedback score is 25,000 to 49,999] )
Oct-09-07 10:20
1894-S Barber Quarter FDC Unc Pristine - Among the Best (#230170277740) US $1,576.51 >>
Looks like someone got caught in the same type of trap they set
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>4 weeks ago when this clown started his FDC listings everyone here thought 'new stuff' on the market.
Well the first thing p[opped into mind- why not have it slabbed and authenticated as genuine and attach a grade to it!
lo and behold- this person is selling coins FDC i might add at moon money-
and now some have come out of the closet
I saw these coins 3 years ago- same place- different seller (now)- it's bull sh*iT and we as a collecting group can't slow it down- no matter what we say.
I posted 16 questions to this clown- on 16 different items he had- no response whatsoevere.
Is he lame/a thief/ someone who can't wait to be caught and can hide?
I'm guessing he fits #2 & 3...
I hate being brutally honest. >>
I hate being confused. Which are 2 and 3? You sound like you know more about this than you are saying. Please be clear. Out of what closet? To sum it up: huh?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Sooner or later this seller will start piling up negs.
Russ, NCNE >>
Yeah, but $250k later I doubt he will care. Then will just start another user name from scratch with a new grandfathers coins.
I can't find it, but the description, pics etc, look very similar to another discussion we had up here about another ebayer about a year ago.
<< <i>Sooner or later this seller will start piling up negs.
Russ, NCNE >>
But long after his bank account is past the FDIC limit.
I also think the date, especially the 6, looks odd.
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The name is LEE!
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It ONLY sold for $10,000.00
Cut the guy some slack. LOL