I got the following grades today that will be coming back soon and will be available for sale. As always, you guys have the first crack so PM me for pricing if interested:
1950 Joe Perry 6 1955 Don Hutson 5
Also got a 1956 Lenny Moore 8, but I haven't decided to keep or sell it. I still need the Moore for my set, but I only want a 7 so I will probably move it and downgrade to a 7 & use the extra to buy some others I need. Feel free to PM offers on this one, but since only one has gone off in the last 13 months it will probaby end up on the 'bay.
Last group i had in for a try at at bump these were all psa 9,s at the $5 per card 1 for 10. 10% but still worth it no clue why it copied this way ? anyway the bump was a 76 White to psa 10 any ideas on value ?
Hey guys, I have a ? about a review sub I sent in. It was logged as received last night. When I check the order status screen it shows: items: 12........added: 12...........waiting: 0...........available: 0 Does this mean they have them logged, but have not reviewed them yet or does it mean they have already reviewed them? When I look at the details it list every card with the cert # and current grade when I sent them in. Please tell me they haven't been reviewed already b/c they are all still showing the same grades. Vince
On another note I just added a buch of set. The new registry is awesome. So much easier. I have been putting off starting new sets b/c I would have to enter each cert. I just started about 20 set in about 20 minutes!!!!!
<< <i>Need a little help from you guys who know the modern stuff
Looking for what would be Chris Samuels best rookie card from 2000 any ideas ?????????? >>
Art, no clue...If he has an SP Authentic from 2000, that would definitely be the card.
I just entered all of my old spreadsheet data into the new registry (price paid, date, etc)...It's pretty neat as it breaks down how much you've spent on each set...
Anyone want to make a guess as to how much I've spent on my current NFL HOF RC collection? If the wife ever sees that number, I will be living in the garage...lolol
Jason
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$73,004.12...Not counting the 87 Zimmerman 10 I won tonight...
Jason
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<< <i>Nice....But the real question is what is the VCP value? >>
VCP value is $108,899.33
And that's missing the following cards that have no sales data in VCP:
PSA 7.5 1933 Goudey Sport Kings Jim Thorpe PSA 7.5 1935 National Chicle Cliff Battles PSA 7 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield PSA 7 1948 Bowman Pete Pihos PSA 8.5 1950 Bowman Otto Graham PSA 8.5 1950 Bowman Joe Perry PSA 8.5 1950 Bowman Lou Groza PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Frank Gifford PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Andy Robustelli PSA 7 1952 Bowman Small Ollie Matson PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Yale Lary PSA 7 1952 Bowman Small Joe Stydahar PSA 8 1952 Bowman Small Wayne Millner PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Jack Christiansen PSA 8.5 1955 Topps All-American Bruiser Kinard PSA 8.5 1955 Bowman Mike McCormack PSA 8.5 1958 Topps Sonny Jurgensen PSA 8.5 1963 Fleer Nick Buoniconti PSA 8.5 1963 Fleer Len Dawson PSA 9 1964 Philadelphia Herb Adderley PSA 8.5 1965 Philadelphia Mel Renfro
These would add around another 20K I would guess....Have I said before how lucky those of us are who got in this set prior to 2003...lolol
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Jason, That is from the last sale from each card right? I think that's how VCP tracks it. I wonder how much different it would be taking the last 5 from each card?
Well i have a real good idea what you paid for the Stydahar since that the last 1 i know of sold it is at least that but we both know it would go for more now
I just entered all of my old spreadsheet data into the new registry (price paid, date, etc)...It's pretty neat as it breaks down how much you've spent on each set... Anyone want to make a guess as to how much I've spent on my current NFL HOF RC collection? If the wife ever sees that number, I will be living in the garage...lolol
Jason that is why I'm scanning all my cards now, but that's it, no records or evidence that could be used against me, LOL.
<< <i>Jason, That is from the last sale from each card right? I think that's how VCP tracks it. I wonder how much different it would be taking the last 5 from each card?
Dave >>
Yep, unfortunately...Some would be higher, some lower if going by last 5 average..If you want to do the research on it and let me know feel free...lol...I don't plan on selling anytime soon, so values are relative anyway...
Art, many thanks for the Stydahar as well as many others through the years...Some would sell higher, others lower..Happy to own each and every one!
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>I just entered all of my old spreadsheet data into the new registry (price paid, date, etc)...It's pretty neat as it breaks down how much you've spent on each set... Anyone want to make a guess as to how much I've spent on my current NFL HOF RC collection? If the wife ever sees that number, I will be living in the garage...lolol
Jason that is why I'm scanning all my cards now, but that's it, no records or evidence that could be used against me, LOL. >>
I'm good at playing it off...lol..My spending has been spread over 10 years, and typically when I but something now, I have a lower graded card to re-sell and offset the cost..I always "publicize" the sales to the wife just so she knows there is also money coming in..She knows I spend quite a bit, but if she saw the total amount in one glance, she'd probably pass out..lol
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
FYI, as Gayle promised, she deleted last years HOFers from the Future-Modern set today:
1981 TOPPS ART MONK 1984 TOPPS DARRELL GREEN 1987 TOPPS GARY ZIMMERMAN
Also, I just e-mailed her to request that the 1976 Gradishar be moved from the Modern to the Senior set since he is no longer eligible as a modern candidate.
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
National is 2 months and counting....everyone got their plane tix??? After the Chaz and now the Nomellini the wife was not going to authorize this trip, but fortunately a buddy is getting married the week after and he has requested we all go to Chicago to National for his bachelor party. We told the wife it's the last place in the world you'd find a stripper...LOL.
<< <i>National is 2 months and counting....everyone got their plane tix??? After the Chaz and now the Nomellini the wife was not going to authorize this trip, but fortunately a buddy is getting married the week after and he has requested we all go to Chicago to National for his bachelor party. We told the wife it's the last place in the world you'd find a stripper...LOL.
Jasen >>
You obviously haven't been downtown.
Actually, I wouldn't really know...no really, I don't. But, I can imagine, if you're looking for that sort of entertainment, it is available. but I won't tell. lol
Well I have some recent poppage. I sent in a 16 card $5 special & it popped real quick, even before my 5 day review sub & my 6 club freebies. not too bad. 2nd time for the Joe D. I have another card with similiar rough edge & it graded a 7, but I can't get this one to grade. Must have missed a small wrinkle on the Dean. Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description 1 1 14240649 N8: MISCUT 1974 TOPPS 183 JOE DeLAMIELLEURE 2 1 14240650 EXCELLENT 5 1978 TOPPS 217 FRED DEAN 3 1 14240651 MINT 9 1997 SP AUTHENTIC 25 COREY DILLON 4 1 14240652 MINT 9 2001 TOPPS HERITAGE CLASSIC RENDITIONS CR8 BRIAN URLACHER CLASSIC RENDITIONS 5 1 14240653 GEM MINT 10 2002 UPPER DECK 234 ALEX BROWN 6 1 14240654 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 UPPER DECK XL 362 ALAN FANECA 7 1 14240655 MINT 9 2003 TOPPS CHROME 187 JUSTIN FARGAS 8 1 14240656 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 TOPPS ALL TIME FAN FAVORITES AUTOGRAPH GF GARY FENCIK 9 1 14240657 NEAR MINT 7 2004 TOPPS ALL TIME FAN FAVORITES AUTOGRAPH WP WILLIAM PERRY 10 1 14240658 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 TOPPS CHROME 180 STEVEN JACKSON 11 1 14240659 MINT 9 2004 TOPPS CHROME 215 LARRY FITZGERALD 12 1 14240660 MINT 9 2006 SP AUTHENTIC 100 DEVIN HESTER 13 1 14240661 MINT 9 2007 BOWMAN CHROME BC90 GREG OLSEN 14 1 14240662 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 2007 BOWMAN SIGNS OF THE FUTURE SF-GW GARRETT WOLFE 15 1 14240663 MINT 9 2007 BOWMAN STERLING ROOKIE RELICS GW GARRETT WOLFE AUTOGRAPH 16 1 14240664 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP AUTHENTIC 11 BRIAN URLACHER
<< <i>Anyone here bidding on the Butkus in Goodwin that closes tonight ? >>
Yes, and I will win it at any and all costs. Stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kidding of course. It does appear to be a really nice card.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Anyone buy anything lately? This thread needs more scans!! I havn't bought anything recently, just awaiting a low grade nagurski. Anyone have one for sale?
I picked up a PSA 10 1987 Zimmerman and a PSA 9 1960 Forrest Gregg in the past week or so for the HOF RC set, and also a PSA 10 1996 SP Terrell Owens for the future set.
I've been outbid on everything else, although not really been a whole lot on that I need. I did read an interesting article from Dr.Z concerning the 2009 HOF class. Always good to get different viewpoints. Here's a copy and paste:
I have, sent by the Hall of Fame, a gigantic roster of names marked CONFIDENTIAL, which means that I can't wait to tell you about it.
Oh, I've gone through this drill before -- once I believe. It involves sorting through something they call a Preliminary List, which means names that snuck in through leaks in the pipes, cracks in the wall, windows when no one was looking ... all sorts of creative ways ... 113 names, total.
Once upon a time I found it amusing to focus on the more obscure names, but no longer.
I've grown up now. Matured, in other words. So when I tell you that this list of folks in all walks of former NFL life will be further subjected to the addition of any favorites we feel the Hall has missed (actually it's the Hall's VP Joe Horrigan who compiled it), and then will be superseded by a Second Preliminary List, I am deadly serious. Then we come to a Third Preliminary List of 25, which will be October's harvest, followed by the Final Preliminary List, which will be reduced to the 15 modern and two Senior candidates we will take with us into the selection meeting the day before the Super Bowl.
Now normally I kind of like all this list-making-and-breaking, but something from the last Selection meeting stayed in my mind and then rang the gong for a Future Column. Green Bay's Cliff Christl brought in a set of capsule comments from Ron Wolf, the retired Packer GM and himself a Hall of Fame candidate, at least on the preliminary undercard. His remarks were acute and at times merciless, with those he felt had no business being among the nominees. His point was that very few people are worthy.
It got me thinking, which is a major achievement. Why not run the whole preliminary list by Ron when I get it? The answer is: who has that much time? Well, I do, especially in the offseason, and it turned out that Wolf did, too. It's what happens when a pair of ancients get together and start reminiscing about the great old players they'd seen, great moments, great games -- anything great, as long as it was in the thick mists of long ago.
So as we head into the month that really defines the offseason, June, here is my attempt to get one of the game's most revered chroniclers to cast some light on the current roster of future immortals. I can't list every name, so you're going to trust my judgment on those I consider the stickouts. First a general question to Ron Wolf. What constitutes a Hall of Famer?
"A guy who has made a difference," he said. "A unique performer during his time in the game. A person who dominated."
Let's look at our initial category, First-time eligibles. Forty strong. Shannon Sharpe, the tight end, is the name that jumps out among the pass-catchers.
"Well, he made the tight end position more of a receiving position," Wolf said. "Performed well in big games. For what he accomplished, I guess you'd have to say he was a game-changer. I think he belongs."
I didn't see any other offensive players who thrilled me, but here's a name, Vikings DT John Randle, who was a constant annoyance to Wolf's Packers -- two times a year. "Yes! Dominated his division for a long time," Wolf said. "I know he gave us all kinds of trouble."
I've argued this one for almost 15 years. Dynamite inside pass rusher, agreed, but so unsound against the run that he'd cause problems for those around him. I have yet to find one person who agrees with me. "Old-fashioned, leather-helmet thinking," Mike Giddings, the super scout has told me a million times. "He's only one of the most dynamic inside rushers in history, and that's what the game is all about, or haven't you heard?"
Yeah, I've heard already. Let's move on. Bruce Smith is up for the first time. Another great rusher, this time from the edge. "Oh yes," Wolf said. "I'd be very surprised if he's not a first-ballot choice. You know, it's a simple game. You take advantage of a guy's skill and ability, and he was one of the great wide rushers in history. You don't ask someone to do what he can't do."
John Mobley and Bill Romanowski are the more interesting LB names, a pair of Woodsons, Rod and Darren lead the DB's. "Mobley's effective career was too short," Wolf said. "I'd call him an 'almost.' Romo? Well, you had all the steroid charges. He helped every team he was on, but were you seeing the real Romanowski out there?
"I have no trouble with either defensive back, though. Rod Woodson certainly deserves it. Darren? Played a unique position for the Cowboys. Did everything a safetyman had to do, strongside or weak. Hell of a special teamer, too. Yes, a terrific player, a Hall of Famer."
Wait a minute. Wolf is supposed to be a tough grader, and that's five names he's already approved. And we're not even out of the new entries yet. And two Seniors still must make it. See how tough it is? Every year. Same problem.
On we go to the 38 players who were up in previous years and never made it. QBs are strong. Esiason, Plunkett, Simms, Stabler and Ken Anderson, who has always been a personal favorite, if only for the way he carried himself on the field. There was a kind of majesty about him.
"It's the grey area," Wolf said. "Good players, all of them good enough to win, but Hall of Famers? I don't think so. You could add Dan Fouts to that list. I know he's in already, but we played him enough times, when I was with the Raiders. But I never had the feeling that, OK, we're paying the Chargers now -- the one guy we have to worry about is the one throwing the ball."
Back comes Terrell Davis to light the fires of controversy once again. "Too short a career," said the negative voices. "Seven years, total, and only four of them were effective."
I was on the opposing side of that argument on this one. Yes, but those four years were sensational, and in two of them the Broncos rode his shirttails to Super Bowl triumphs.
"Four good years -- I don't think that's enough," Wolf said. Fine, but I think I have the clinching argument here. It's a two-word argument, a player both Wolf and I respect above almost anyone else. Orban "Spec" Sanders. Make that a three-word argument.
"Oh, man," Wolf said. "Ran back kicks and punts, passed, ran, punted, and then in his last year played defensive back."
A phenom for the rival All-America Football Conference, which had as many superstars as the NFL did, don't let anyone tell you different (not that anyone who is sane would hold such a conversation 60 years later). Single-wing tailback for the New York Yankees, and many a Sunday did I sit in the Stadium, yelling my lungs out for Spec and little Buddy Young, and Marion Motley, when the Browns came to town. Ran for 1,432 yards the same year Steve Van Buren set the NFL rushing record of 1,008.
His knees were shot in 1949, and he was out of the game, but in 1950 the Yankees were absorbed into the NFL and Spec came back as a defensive halfback -- they didn't call them cornerbacks then. His 13 interceptions were a league record, topped only by "Night Train" Lane's 14 two years later. Tell me, Ron, was Spec a Hall of Famer?
"Damn right he was," Wolf said. "Nobody ever did the things he did."
Well, ahem, three years in the AAFC, one in the NFL. Is Terrell Davis a Hall of Famer?
"You've given me something to think about," he said.
We move on, through a strong field of tight ends, Ben Coates, Mark Bavaro, the demon blocker, Todd Christensen, a personal favorite. "A hell of a list," he said. "If I had to take one of them, I'd take Bavaro, if only because of what he did for that offense. He made the Giants into a Super Bowl team."
How about the wideouts? Andre Reed. Made it to the round of 15.
"A lot of catches," Wolf said, "but did he dominate?"
Cris Carter, made it to the final 10 last time, lost out to Art Monk.
"Monk wouldn't be a choice of mine," Wolf said. "Did people say, when they played the Redskins, 'We've got to stop Art Monk?'
"Same thing with Carter. Who was the guy who worried you on that team? The speed guy on the other side, Randy Moss."
A pause for reflection. Cris Carter on the goal line, Carter against coverage on the sideline. Better think it through.
"Yeah, when they got in close, it was Carter you had to worry about," Wolf said. "When they needed the key first down, who did they go to? Moss? No, it was Carter. Plus he was an S.O.B. to cover. Now look what happened. Initially I dinged Carter, but when all is said and done, he really is deserving."
So how many has he put in the Hall already? Seven? Eight? And we still have the linemen who lost out last time, plus the defensive players.
Tony Boselli? "No. Better when he was younger."
Dermontti Dawson. "The best center's already in, and his name is Stephenson."
Bob Kuechenberg, whom I've been plugging for as long as I can remember? Jim Lachey? Steve Wisniewski? "No, no and no." Randall McDaniel? "More Pro Bowls than almost anybody," Wolf said, and I think he was beginning to wear out at this point. "I guess he belongs."
I told him I'd always been in ex-Falcon Mike Kenn's corner. As technically correct a tackle as the modern era has produced. "Oh yes," Wolf said. "And he did it for a long, long time, on some bad teams."
The name of Kenn reminded me of Winston Hill of the Super Bowl Jets. A smooth, stylish left tackle, a great raconteur, a fine wit.
"Of all the names I could have had that would have inspired fear," he used to say. "Rocky. Bruiser. My parents had to name me Winston ... Winnie to everyone. I mean could you see a defensive lineman terrified because he had to go up against a Winnie?"
"So graceful, so beautiful to watch," Matt Snell, the fullback, used to say. "Took them just where he wanted them to go. Never seemed like he was exerting himself that much. Tell me, did you ever seen Winnie sweat?"
"That's my man, bingo!" Wolf said. "You talk about a guy whose name you never hear now, that's him. I'd love to see the Seniors Committee propose him."
We all have our own favorites, players you could almost consider personal quirks. Hill is one of Ron Wolf's. So is defensive back Otto Schnellbacher, New York Yankees, New York Giants, a mainstay in Steve Owen's original Umbrella Defense, Otto Graham's persistent tormenter. Oh sure, I've got mine, too. Richie Jackson, the Broncos' great pass-rushing end, "Tombstone," they called him.
"Drove an old jalopy over the mountains after we'd traded with Oakland for him, and arrived in camp in the evening, just as it was getting dark," Stan Jones, the Denver line coach once told me. "He said, 'I've gone as far as I'm going. This is where I make my stand.' "
Here's another longshot, ex-49er Tommy Davis, a rocket punter who tamed the wicked winds of Kezar. Will the Seniors Committee ever find them? Probably not.
"Sometimes one particular talent stays with you," Wolf says. "Take George Buehler, our right guard with the Raiders. No one ever handled Joe Greene better than Buehler did. George was a different kind of guy, though. Kind of spacy.
"He would say to Gene Upshaw, our left guard, 'Eugene' ... he always called him Eugene ... 'who are we paying today?' And Gene would say, 'The Pittsburgh Steelers, George.'
'And Eugene, who will I be playing against?'
'Joe Greene, George.'
'Thank you, Eugene.' "
From an impressive list of linebackers, Wolf selected Clay Matthews, who played for 19 seasons, "with very little dropoff in effectiveness," as his man.
"Every time the Broncos come up, they're always pushing Karl Mecklenburg or Randy Gradishar. Both good players, but to me, Tommy Jackson is the Hall of Famer in that group. Very fast, very productive." Yep, Jackson is right up there, but I have also been in Sam Mills' corner for quite a while, but that's horse racing.
Cortez Kennedy is Wolf's favorite defensive lineman of the six in the group. I've been wearing myself out for years, trying to get Joe Klecko some notice.
"Old-time payer, lunch pail guy," Wolf says. Yes, but he also had 20 ½ sacks one year. Unfortunately that was the year before sacks became an official statistic.
"Tom Sestak, Arnie Weinmeister, great players ... who ever heard of them?" Wolf said.
Are you counting how many players we have already put in the Hall between us? And Wolf is supposed to be a hard guy, right? I told him to fasten his seat belt because the list of defensive backs from this category -- considered but not enshrined -- would blow him away. And it did.
Eric Allen, Eagles. Steve At-water and Louie Wright, Broncos. LeRoy Butler, Packers. Kenny Easley, Seahawks. Lester Hayes, Raiders. Donnie Shell, Steelers. Albert Lewis, Chiefs and Raiders, Ken Riley ("The Rattler"), Bengals.
"My God, what a group" Wolf said. "A stunning group. I can think of seven who deserve it."
Which two don't?
"At-water and Allen."
How about the others?
"Well, if I were drafting them, this is the order in which I'd pick them. No.1 Easley. The best safety I've ever seen. The crème de la crème. Unfortunately, he got hurt. Plus he played in Vladivostok, where nobody ever heard of him.
"No. 2, Hayes. Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame? Then Lewis, really smooth, almost a perfect cornerback. Then Butler, who I really have a special affinity for. As a strong safety, he and Darren Woodson were players who dominated. Could play the run, play the pass, really good tackler, effective blitzer, could set the defenses. Those Packer teams were really his teams.
"Finally, Wright, Riley and Shell, but they're all such great players."
Ray Guy is the only punter seriously proposed and he gets dinged every year. Now I know for a fact that as an ex-Raider, he will fit right into Wolf's comfort zone.
"All I can tell you is that we went from a team that kept giving up field position, because of our punter, to one that forced the other team to have to go 78 or 80 yards."
Last area, coaches and contributors. I told Wolf that I had tried to get Shaughnessy, the father of the modern T-formation, nominated by the Seniors Committee and had failed.
"Just look at the impact this guy had on the game," Wolf said. "You know he coached the Bears' defense for a while, too. My second year as GM of the Packers, I'm in Minneapolis for the Super Bowl -- Washington against Buffalo. Richie Petitbon, who played safety for the Bears when Shaughnessy coached the defense, was coaching the Redskins' defense. And what I was looking at in that game was Shaughnessy's defense, 30 years after he'd been at Chicago.
"In 1962, I was a 23-year-old, working for Pro Football Illustrated in Chicago, just a gofer, my first job. Every morning I had to meet with George Allen of the Bears' staff. I'd bring him a prune Danish and coffee. He said that the defense was Shaughnessy's, but George Halas wouldn't let him in the office. That's how jealous he was."
Well, we've almost come to the end of the line. How about the person, whose name is on the list as a "contributor," and who had just selected about 40 Hall of Famers for the Class of '09? Wolf has no illusions about being selected for enshrinement, but you never know.
This is the history. Vince Lombardi never had a losing season. Then there followed 24 seasons with only five winning records. Then Wolf was hired from the Raiders. What he brought to Green Bay in his nine years were nine winning seasons, a Super Bowl victory, and Brett Favre, stolen from Atlanta on a trade.
Not a bad way to wrap up a career.
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>I picked up a PSA 10 1987 Zimmerman and a PSA 9 1960 Forrest Gregg in the past week or so for the HOF RC set, and also a PSA 10 1996 SP Terrell Owens for the future set. >>
Why didn't you chase the Gregg 9 that just ended for, what was it, like $550?
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>I picked up a PSA 10 1987 Zimmerman and a PSA 9 1960 Forrest Gregg in the past week or so for the HOF RC set, and also a PSA 10 1996 SP Terrell Owens for the future set. >>
Why didn't you chase the Gregg 9 that just ended for, what was it, like $550? >>
Must have missed that one, I wouldn't have let it slide that cheap unless it was butt ugly. Who won it? Hard to believe all the HOF RC guys would have passed on it when the others in VCP are $835 and $1025...
Got a link? Not in VCP or ebay ended auctions..
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Well I have some more poppage. 6 freebies for renewing.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country 1 1 14240878 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS 28 MEL HEIN Card US 2 1 14240879 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1957 TOPPS 31 GEORGE BLANDA Card US 3 1 14240880 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1957 TOPPS 67 HARLON HILL Card US 4 1 14240881 NEAR MINT 7 1964 TOPPS 93 ED BUDDE Card US 5 1 14240882 NEAR MINT 7 1967 PHILADELPHIA 36 CHICAGO BEARS INSIGNIA Card US 6 1 14240883 N8: MISCUT 1970 TOPPS 95 RICH JACKSON Card US
Total Items: 6
Date Received: 5/20/2008
On another note: I recently sold a Little PSA 8 on Ebay and the buyer said the postmaster told him it was stolen. The package had been slit open. The buyer did purchase insurance though. Here is the cert # if anyone sees one pop up for sale. 14934777
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Vince I had the same thing recently, although I was the buyer. I received a bubble envelope that was cut open at the top and was completely empty. I couldn't beleive the mailman actually put it in my mailbox that way. Luckily, it was a low dollar card ($25-$30) and the seller "self" insured and refunded my payment via PayPal. Out of the hundreds, or more likely thousands of card transactions I have done both buying and selling combined, I had never had anything like that happen. I assumed it was something that happened at the sellers postal location which was I believe Oregon (and no it wasn's Publius)...
Next time, its probably going to be an uninsured package, and then could get really interesting for someone out there.
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
This thread is quiet....almost too quiet. Is this the calm before the storm in Chicago??? I whill be adding my Leo when it arrives, but I don't have anything else in the pipeline. I think there are only 3-4 "Updated" tags in the top 40 or so sets. Very unusual for this crowd......
Listed in category: Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Cards > Baseball-MLB > Lots > Other-Mixed
Shows you what listing in the right/wrong category can do for you. I only search football card categories on ebay..Based on the final price, many others do the same. Not to mention the old style flip which will always bring a little lower price. Here are the other Gregg 9 sales from VCP:
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
I just checked my reiew sub and I got some bumpage!!!!! I sent 12 cards in and 3 bumped 1971 Topps Terry Bradshaw PSA 7 to PSA 7.5 I got this from a board member, but can't remember who 1972 Topps Rayfield Wright PSA 8 to PSA 8.5 I got this one from Jason a long time ago 1950 Bowman Dante Lavelli PSA 6 to PSA 7
<< <i>I just checked my reiew sub and I got some bumpage!!!!! I sent 12 cards in and 3 bumped 1971 Topps Terry Bradshaw PSA 7 to PSA 7.5 I got this from a board member, but can't remember who 1972 Topps Rayfield Wright PSA 8 to PSA 8.5 I got this one from Jason a long time ago 1950 Bowman Dante Lavelli PSA 6 to PSA 7
not too bad. I guess >>
Vince, congrats!
If it's the same Wright I used to have in my set, I had actually sent it in a long time ago in hope of it bumping to PSA 9. Not surprised to see that one bump..
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>What did that Butkus psa 9 go for at the auction? >>
$11,166.03 with the juice...
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
I got HAMMERED! Absolutely hammered. My lowest percentage of 10's ever. 6.5%. My previous low was 7%, I usually run 10% or more. This sub, I fully expected close to 100 10's, I got 25. I did get 150 or so 9's. O joy.
Here are the highlights PSA 10 1995 SP Curtis Martin RC PSA 8 1967 Philly Dave Wilcox HOF RC PSA 8 Ray Guy rc PSA 8 Jim Langer rc PSA 7 Roger Wehrli RC PSA 1 Clarke Hinkle Chicle RC (I expected a 1 or a 2) PSA 5 Ollie Matson Bowman Small RC (BVG 6.5 crackout) PSA 7 Tommy McDonald rc PSA 8 Alex Karras RC PSA 8 1971 TOpps Alex Karras (Previously rejected as min size) I expected a 9. PSA 7 Pat Fischer RC PSA 7 Gene Hickerson RC (Also got a 7ST, 2x PSA 5, a 6 and a 4) One had a white line on the top that looked like it might have been a pressed out crease, but I couldn't tell. Probably one of the 5's or the 4 I'm guessing. PSA 7.5 Dave Robinson rc (Also 2x PSA 7 and an evid of trim I thought would get an 8 or 8.5) I'll resub that one PSA 7 CHris Hanburger rc PSA 7 Bob Trumpy rc PSA 7 Lemar Parrish rc PSA 7 Emmitt Thomas rc PSA 9OC Emmitt Thomas rc (was hoping for a straight 8, it is oc though) PSA 9 Randy Gradishar rc PSA 9 Gary Zimmerman rc (Expected at least one 10) PSA 10 Randall McDaniel rc PSA 10 Aeneas Williams rc 2x PSA 9 Darren Woodson rc (thought I might sneak a 10) PSA 10 Ben Coates rc Anybody need PSA 9 Willie Roaf rc? I have a couple. PSA 10 Tom Nalen rc PSA 10 Ruben Brown rc PSA 9 Larry Allen PSA 10 Gino Toretta (Vince?) PSA 10 Danny Wuerffell (Vince?) PSA 10 Drew Brees press pass auto. Rejected before as Min Size. PSA 9 Zach Thomas rc. Cracked from a BGS 9.5 holder. THought it might come back trimmed but I guess not. PSA 10 Bowman Chrome Adrian Peterson
Low Points PSA 4 Kenny Easley rc. Oy Vey PSA 3.5 John Henry Johnson RC (I expected a 7, I have a feeling it got creased getting pulled out of the card saver) PSA 4 Charlie Sanders rc (Ugh, a 4? WTF?) expected a 7 PSA 6 Andre Tippett rc PSA 7 Reggie White Topps rc PSA 8 Jerry Rice, Andree Reed & Bruce Smith ''86 Topps RCs (4) PSA 9 Leroy Butler rc's. All were PSA 9 Crackouts, so they are spotting something, I don't know what it is 1979 Topps James Lofton BVG 8.5 Crackout. EVID OF TRIM. Absolutely stunning card, but some pd on his face kept it from a 10, thought I might get a 9. Glad the 8.5 wasn't spendy. 4x PSA 7 Darren Woodson. Thought I'd get 8's 1991 Score Supp. Erik Williams "Evid of Recoloration" Yes, seriously. 1993 SP Jerome Bettis - The best looking one I've ever pulled. "MIN SIZE" That'll get subbed again
I had a number of 1993 and 1995 SP's (this sub and my last couple of subs) get rejected as trimmed or min size. I sent in some SP All Pro's for a guy on the registry who is doing the set. I pulled every one from a box myself and got a handful as min size. The Steve Young and Steve McNair they rejected as min size last time both ended up in PSA 9 holders this time around.
Anyways, that's the high and low of it.
384 cards, 25 10's, 162 9's, 15 half grades (all 7.5 - 8.5), 11 cards rejected as min size, miscut, recoloration or trim, 9 cards with qualifiers even though I asked for NQ.
113 cards are essentially worthless. That is, rejected as evid of trim or in an essentially unsellable grade. Ie. PSA 4 Charlie Sanders, PSA 5 Del Shofner, PSA 4 Billy Wilson, PSA 8 Steve Tasker..you get the idea.
The rest are 8's or less. Pretty disappointed, but I won't lose my shorts thanks to a few cards.
Once I get these back from psa (listed as shipped already). I'll make any available to anyone who wants them.
I also got a bunch of PSA 9 Cowboys stuff and PSA 9's on modern crap for the HOF and Future HOF sets. Newton, McDaniel, Zimmerman, Martin etc.
Yeah, it's kind of odd. No idea why they are having trouble with those.
Here were my 93 SP's and 95 SP's
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1993 SP 6 JEROME BETTIS FOIL NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1993 SP 9 DREW BLEDSOE FOIL NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 23 LINCOLN KENNEDY GEM MINT 10 1993 SP 23 LINCOLN KENNEDY MINT 9 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM MINT 9 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 99 REGGIE WHITE NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 99 REGGIE WHITE MINT 9 1993 SP 123 WILL SHIELDS MINT 9 1993 SP 150 DAN MARINO GEM MINT 10 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1993 SP 8 ROBERT SMITH FOIL MINT 9 1993 SP 241 DANA STUBBLEFIELD MINT 9 1993 SP 241 DANA STUBBLEFIELD MINT 9 1993 SP 259 JOHN LYNCH N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1993 SP 8 ROBERT SMITH FOIL
MINT 9 1995 SP 3 STEVE McNAIR FOIL MINT 9 1995 SP 3 STEVE McNAIR FOIL MINT 9 1995 SP 12 RASHAAN SALAAM FOIL MINT 9 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL GEM MINT 10 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL MINT 9 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 52 REGGIE WHITE MINT 9 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP MINT 9 1995 SP 103 DERRICK BROOKS NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 130 TERRELL DAVIS NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 174 TY LAW MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-1 MARSHALL FAULK NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-1 MARSHALL FAULK NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-2 NATRONE MEANS NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-3 EMMITT SMITH NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-3 EMMITT SMITH NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-3 EMMITT SMITH NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-4 BRETT FAVRE MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-5 MICHAEL WESTBROOK NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-6 JERRY RICE MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-6 JERRY RICE MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-7 JOHN ELWAY MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-11 DREW BLEDSOE MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-14 TYRONE WHEATLEY MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-16 STEVE YOUNG GEM MINT 10 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-15 STEVE McNAIR GOLD MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-16 STEVE YOUNG GOLD MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 1 JOE MONTANA MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 2 DAN MARINO N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 3 DREW BLEDSOE MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 4 BEN COATES N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 5 CURTIS MARTIN GEM MINT 10 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 5 CURTIS MARTIN NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 21 CHRIS WARREN NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 22 KERRY COLLINS N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 23 MARIO BATES NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 24 JEROME BETTIS NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 25 WILLIAM FLOYD MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 30 MICHAEL IRVIN MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 31 EMMITT SMITH GEM MINT 10 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 32 RODNEY HAMPTON MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 33 HEATH SHULER N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 34 MICHAEL WESTBROOK MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 35 BARRY SANDERS
Comments
<< <i>Well, Jon needs one and Joe now has one. The question is whether Joe wants another.......LOL>> >>
One can never have too many Largent rookie cards guys, no matter what the grade is.
joe
Hope everyone is well !!
I have another batch of NFL HOF rookie cards on ebay (ending tonight)
Free shipping to HOF RC set collectors !!!
Check them out!
1962 Topps Fran Tarkenton PSA 7
1965 Topps Willie Brown PSA 7
1965 Topps Fred Biletnikoff PSA 7
1962 Fleer Billy Shaw PSA 7
1965 Philadelphia Charley Taylor PSA 8
A nice variety of stuff there to bid on!
Best Regards to all,
Jeff
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
1950 Joe Perry 6
1955 Don Hutson 5
Also got a 1956 Lenny Moore 8, but I haven't decided to keep or sell it. I still need the Moore for my set, but I only want a 7 so I will probably move it and downgrade to a 7 & use the extra to buy some others I need. Feel free to PM offers on this one, but since only one has gone off in the last 13 months it will probaby end up on the 'bay.
Jasen
10% but still worth it
no clue why it copied this way ? anyway the bump was a 76 White to psa 10 any ideas on value ?
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Last two closed $1476 and $675
So I would guess $1k easily. Nice bump from a 9! Congrats!
My eBay Store
BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
I have a ? about a review sub I sent in.
It was logged as received last night. When I check the order status screen it shows:
items: 12........added: 12...........waiting: 0...........available: 0
Does this mean they have them logged, but have not reviewed them yet or does it mean they have already reviewed them?
When I look at the details it list every card with the cert # and current grade when I sent them in.
Please tell me they haven't been reviewed already b/c they are all still showing the same grades.
Vince
The new registry is awesome. So much easier.
I have been putting off starting new sets b/c I would have to enter each cert.
I just started about 20 set in about 20 minutes!!!!!
Looking for what would be Chris Samuels best rookie card from 2000 any ideas ??????????
<< <i>Need a little help from you guys who know the modern stuff
Looking for what would be Chris Samuels best rookie card from 2000 any ideas ?????????? >>
Art, no clue...If he has an SP Authentic from 2000, that would definitely be the card.
I just entered all of my old spreadsheet data into the new registry (price paid, date, etc)...It's pretty neat as it breaks down how much you've spent on each set...
Anyone want to make a guess as to how much I've spent on my current NFL HOF RC collection? If the wife ever sees that number, I will be living in the garage...lolol
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
<< <i>Nice....But the real question is what is the VCP value?
VCP value is $108,899.33
And that's missing the following cards that have no sales data in VCP:
PSA 7.5 1933 Goudey Sport Kings Jim Thorpe
PSA 7.5 1935 National Chicle Cliff Battles
PSA 7 1948 Leaf Bob Waterfield
PSA 7 1948 Bowman Pete Pihos
PSA 8.5 1950 Bowman Otto Graham
PSA 8.5 1950 Bowman Joe Perry
PSA 8.5 1950 Bowman Lou Groza
PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Frank Gifford
PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Andy Robustelli
PSA 7 1952 Bowman Small Ollie Matson
PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Yale Lary
PSA 7 1952 Bowman Small Joe Stydahar
PSA 8 1952 Bowman Small Wayne Millner
PSA 8 1952 Bowman Large Jack Christiansen
PSA 8.5 1955 Topps All-American Bruiser Kinard
PSA 8.5 1955 Bowman Mike McCormack
PSA 8.5 1958 Topps Sonny Jurgensen
PSA 8.5 1963 Fleer Nick Buoniconti
PSA 8.5 1963 Fleer Len Dawson
PSA 9 1964 Philadelphia Herb Adderley
PSA 8.5 1965 Philadelphia Mel Renfro
These would add around another 20K I would guess....Have I said before how lucky those of us are who got in this set prior to 2003...lolol
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
I would figure about 125 % on the .5,s
Anyone want to make a guess as to how much I've spent on my current NFL HOF RC collection? If the wife ever sees that number, I will be living in the garage...lolol
Jason that is why I'm scanning all my cards now, but that's it, no records or evidence that could be used against me, LOL.
<< <i>Jason, That is from the last sale from each card right? I think that's how VCP tracks it. I wonder how much different it would be taking the last 5 from each card?
Dave >>
Yep, unfortunately...Some would be higher, some lower if going by last 5 average..If you want to do the research on it and let me know feel free...lol...I don't plan on selling anytime soon, so values are relative anyway...
Art, many thanks for the Stydahar as well as many others through the years...Some would sell higher, others lower..Happy to own each and every one!
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>I just entered all of my old spreadsheet data into the new registry (price paid, date, etc)...It's pretty neat as it breaks down how much you've spent on each set...
Anyone want to make a guess as to how much I've spent on my current NFL HOF RC collection? If the wife ever sees that number, I will be living in the garage...lolol
Jason that is why I'm scanning all my cards now, but that's it, no records or evidence that could be used against me, LOL. >>
I'm good at playing it off...lol..My spending has been spread over 10 years, and typically when I but something now, I have a lower graded card to re-sell and offset the cost..I always "publicize" the sales to the wife just so she knows there is also money coming in..She knows I spend quite a bit, but if she saw the total amount in one glance, she'd probably pass out..lol
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
1981 TOPPS ART MONK
1984 TOPPS DARRELL GREEN
1987 TOPPS GARY ZIMMERMAN
Also, I just e-mailed her to request that the 1976 Gradishar be moved from the Modern to the Senior set since he is no longer eligible as a modern candidate.
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Jasen
<< <i>National is 2 months and counting....everyone got their plane tix??? After the Chaz and now the Nomellini the wife was not going to authorize this trip, but fortunately a buddy is getting married the week after and he has requested we all go to Chicago to National for his bachelor party. We told the wife it's the last place in the world you'd find a stripper...LOL.
Jasen >>
You obviously haven't been downtown.
Actually, I wouldn't really know...no really, I don't. But, I can imagine, if you're looking for that sort of entertainment, it is available. but I won't tell. lol
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
I sent in a 16 card $5 special & it popped real quick, even before my 5 day review sub & my 6 club freebies.
not too bad. 2nd time for the Joe D. I have another card with similiar rough edge & it graded a 7, but I can't get this one to grade. Must have missed a small wrinkle on the Dean.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description
1 1 14240649 N8: MISCUT 1974 TOPPS 183 JOE DeLAMIELLEURE
2 1 14240650 EXCELLENT 5 1978 TOPPS 217 FRED DEAN
3 1 14240651 MINT 9 1997 SP AUTHENTIC 25 COREY DILLON
4 1 14240652 MINT 9 2001 TOPPS HERITAGE CLASSIC RENDITIONS CR8 BRIAN URLACHER CLASSIC RENDITIONS
5 1 14240653 GEM MINT 10 2002 UPPER DECK 234 ALEX BROWN
6 1 14240654 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 UPPER DECK XL 362 ALAN FANECA
7 1 14240655 MINT 9 2003 TOPPS CHROME 187 JUSTIN FARGAS
8 1 14240656 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 TOPPS ALL TIME FAN FAVORITES AUTOGRAPH GF GARY FENCIK
9 1 14240657 NEAR MINT 7 2004 TOPPS ALL TIME FAN FAVORITES AUTOGRAPH WP WILLIAM PERRY
10 1 14240658 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 TOPPS CHROME 180 STEVEN JACKSON
11 1 14240659 MINT 9 2004 TOPPS CHROME 215 LARRY FITZGERALD
12 1 14240660 MINT 9 2006 SP AUTHENTIC 100 DEVIN HESTER
13 1 14240661 MINT 9 2007 BOWMAN CHROME BC90 GREG OLSEN
14 1 14240662 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 2007 BOWMAN SIGNS OF THE FUTURE SF-GW GARRETT WOLFE
15 1 14240663 MINT 9 2007 BOWMAN STERLING ROOKIE RELICS GW GARRETT WOLFE AUTOGRAPH
16 1 14240664 GEM MINT 10 2007 SP AUTHENTIC 11 BRIAN URLACHER
Total Items: 16
Date Received: 05/21/08
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK
Almost 12 k with the vig already
<< <i>Anyone here bidding on the Butkus in Goodwin that closes tonight ? >>
Yes, and I will win it at any and all costs. Stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kidding of course. It does appear to be a really nice card.
I had placed a bid of 10K including the vig, so having been outbid, I am out.
MAD
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THE BEST THERE WAS!
THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE!
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dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
I've been outbid on everything else, although not really been a whole lot on that I need. I did read an interesting article from Dr.Z concerning the 2009 HOF class. Always good to get different viewpoints. Here's a copy and paste:
I have, sent by the Hall of Fame, a gigantic roster of names marked CONFIDENTIAL, which means that I can't wait to tell you about it.
Oh, I've gone through this drill before -- once I believe. It involves sorting through something they call a Preliminary List, which means names that snuck in through leaks in the pipes, cracks in the wall, windows when no one was looking ... all sorts of creative ways ... 113 names, total.
Once upon a time I found it amusing to focus on the more obscure names, but no longer.
I've grown up now. Matured, in other words. So when I tell you that this list of folks in all walks of former NFL life will be further subjected to the addition of any favorites we feel the Hall has missed (actually it's the Hall's VP Joe Horrigan who compiled it), and then will be superseded by a Second Preliminary List, I am deadly serious. Then we come to a Third Preliminary List of 25, which will be October's harvest, followed by the Final Preliminary List, which will be reduced to the 15 modern and two Senior candidates we will take with us into the selection meeting the day before the Super Bowl.
Now normally I kind of like all this list-making-and-breaking, but something from the last Selection meeting stayed in my mind and then rang the gong for a Future Column. Green Bay's Cliff Christl brought in a set of capsule comments from Ron Wolf, the retired Packer GM and himself a Hall of Fame candidate, at least on the preliminary undercard. His remarks were acute and at times merciless, with those he felt had no business being among the nominees. His point was that very few people are worthy.
It got me thinking, which is a major achievement. Why not run the whole preliminary list by Ron when I get it? The answer is: who has that much time? Well, I do, especially in the offseason, and it turned out that Wolf did, too. It's what happens when a pair of ancients get together and start reminiscing about the great old players they'd seen, great moments, great games -- anything great, as long as it was in the thick mists of long ago.
So as we head into the month that really defines the offseason, June, here is my attempt to get one of the game's most revered chroniclers to cast some light on the current roster of future immortals. I can't list every name, so you're going to trust my judgment on those I consider the stickouts. First a general question to Ron Wolf. What constitutes a Hall of Famer?
"A guy who has made a difference," he said. "A unique performer during his time in the game. A person who dominated."
Let's look at our initial category, First-time eligibles. Forty strong. Shannon Sharpe, the tight end, is the name that jumps out among the pass-catchers.
"Well, he made the tight end position more of a receiving position," Wolf said. "Performed well in big games. For what he accomplished, I guess you'd have to say he was a game-changer. I think he belongs."
I didn't see any other offensive players who thrilled me, but here's a name, Vikings DT John Randle, who was a constant annoyance to Wolf's Packers -- two times a year. "Yes! Dominated his division for a long time," Wolf said. "I know he gave us all kinds of trouble."
I've argued this one for almost 15 years. Dynamite inside pass rusher, agreed, but so unsound against the run that he'd cause problems for those around him. I have yet to find one person who agrees with me. "Old-fashioned, leather-helmet thinking," Mike Giddings, the super scout has told me a million times. "He's only one of the most dynamic inside rushers in history, and that's what the game is all about, or haven't you heard?"
Yeah, I've heard already. Let's move on. Bruce Smith is up for the first time. Another great rusher, this time from the edge. "Oh yes," Wolf said. "I'd be very surprised if he's not a first-ballot choice. You know, it's a simple game. You take advantage of a guy's skill and ability, and he was one of the great wide rushers in history. You don't ask someone to do what he can't do."
John Mobley and Bill Romanowski are the more interesting LB names, a pair of Woodsons, Rod and Darren lead the DB's. "Mobley's effective career was too short," Wolf said. "I'd call him an 'almost.' Romo? Well, you had all the steroid charges. He helped every team he was on, but were you seeing the real Romanowski out there?
"I have no trouble with either defensive back, though. Rod Woodson certainly deserves it. Darren? Played a unique position for the Cowboys. Did everything a safetyman had to do, strongside or weak. Hell of a special teamer, too. Yes, a terrific player, a Hall of Famer."
Wait a minute. Wolf is supposed to be a tough grader, and that's five names he's already approved. And we're not even out of the new entries yet. And two Seniors still must make it. See how tough it is? Every year. Same problem.
On we go to the 38 players who were up in previous years and never made it. QBs are strong. Esiason, Plunkett, Simms, Stabler and Ken Anderson, who has always been a personal favorite, if only for the way he carried himself on the field. There was a kind of majesty about him.
"It's the grey area," Wolf said. "Good players, all of them good enough to win, but Hall of Famers? I don't think so. You could add Dan Fouts to that list. I know he's in already, but we played him enough times, when I was with the Raiders. But I never had the feeling that, OK, we're paying the Chargers now -- the one guy we have to worry about is the one throwing the ball."
Back comes Terrell Davis to light the fires of controversy once again. "Too short a career," said the negative voices. "Seven years, total, and only four of them were effective."
I was on the opposing side of that argument on this one. Yes, but those four years were sensational, and in two of them the Broncos rode his shirttails to Super Bowl triumphs.
"Four good years -- I don't think that's enough," Wolf said. Fine, but I think I have the clinching argument here. It's a two-word argument, a player both Wolf and I respect above almost anyone else. Orban "Spec" Sanders. Make that a three-word argument.
"Oh, man," Wolf said. "Ran back kicks and punts, passed, ran, punted, and then in his last year played defensive back."
A phenom for the rival All-America Football Conference, which had as many superstars as the NFL did, don't let anyone tell you different (not that anyone who is sane would hold such a conversation 60 years later). Single-wing tailback for the New York Yankees, and many a Sunday did I sit in the Stadium, yelling my lungs out for Spec and little Buddy Young, and Marion Motley, when the Browns came to town. Ran for 1,432 yards the same year Steve Van Buren set the NFL rushing record of 1,008.
His knees were shot in 1949, and he was out of the game, but in 1950 the Yankees were absorbed into the NFL and Spec came back as a defensive halfback -- they didn't call them cornerbacks then. His 13 interceptions were a league record, topped only by "Night Train" Lane's 14 two years later. Tell me, Ron, was Spec a Hall of Famer?
"Damn right he was," Wolf said. "Nobody ever did the things he did."
Well, ahem, three years in the AAFC, one in the NFL. Is Terrell Davis a Hall of Famer?
"You've given me something to think about," he said.
We move on, through a strong field of tight ends, Ben Coates, Mark Bavaro, the demon blocker, Todd Christensen, a personal favorite. "A hell of a list," he said. "If I had to take one of them, I'd take Bavaro, if only because of what he did for that offense. He made the Giants into a Super Bowl team."
How about the wideouts? Andre Reed. Made it to the round of 15.
"A lot of catches," Wolf said, "but did he dominate?"
Cris Carter, made it to the final 10 last time, lost out to Art Monk.
"Monk wouldn't be a choice of mine," Wolf said. "Did people say, when they played the Redskins, 'We've got to stop Art Monk?'
"Same thing with Carter. Who was the guy who worried you on that team? The speed guy on the other side, Randy Moss."
A pause for reflection. Cris Carter on the goal line, Carter against coverage on the sideline. Better think it through.
"Yeah, when they got in close, it was Carter you had to worry about," Wolf said. "When they needed the key first down, who did they go to? Moss? No, it was Carter. Plus he was an S.O.B. to cover. Now look what happened. Initially I dinged Carter, but when all is said and done, he really is deserving."
So how many has he put in the Hall already? Seven? Eight? And we still have the linemen who lost out last time, plus the defensive players.
Tony Boselli? "No. Better when he was younger."
Dermontti Dawson. "The best center's already in, and his name is Stephenson."
Bob Kuechenberg, whom I've been plugging for as long as I can remember? Jim Lachey? Steve Wisniewski? "No, no and no." Randall McDaniel? "More Pro Bowls than almost anybody," Wolf said, and I think he was beginning to wear out at this point. "I guess he belongs."
I told him I'd always been in ex-Falcon Mike Kenn's corner. As technically correct a tackle as the modern era has produced. "Oh yes," Wolf said. "And he did it for a long, long time, on some bad teams."
The name of Kenn reminded me of Winston Hill of the Super Bowl Jets. A smooth, stylish left tackle, a great raconteur, a fine wit.
"Of all the names I could have had that would have inspired fear," he used to say. "Rocky. Bruiser. My parents had to name me Winston ... Winnie to everyone. I mean could you see a defensive lineman terrified because he had to go up against a Winnie?"
"So graceful, so beautiful to watch," Matt Snell, the fullback, used to say. "Took them just where he wanted them to go. Never seemed like he was exerting himself that much. Tell me, did you ever seen Winnie sweat?"
"That's my man, bingo!" Wolf said. "You talk about a guy whose name you never hear now, that's him. I'd love to see the Seniors Committee propose him."
We all have our own favorites, players you could almost consider personal quirks. Hill is one of Ron Wolf's. So is defensive back Otto Schnellbacher, New York Yankees, New York Giants, a mainstay in Steve Owen's original Umbrella Defense, Otto Graham's persistent tormenter. Oh sure, I've got mine, too. Richie Jackson, the Broncos' great pass-rushing end, "Tombstone," they called him.
"Drove an old jalopy over the mountains after we'd traded with Oakland for him, and arrived in camp in the evening, just as it was getting dark," Stan Jones, the Denver line coach once told me. "He said, 'I've gone as far as I'm going. This is where I make my stand.' "
Here's another longshot, ex-49er Tommy Davis, a rocket punter who tamed the wicked winds of Kezar. Will the Seniors Committee ever find them? Probably not.
"Sometimes one particular talent stays with you," Wolf says. "Take George Buehler, our right guard with the Raiders. No one ever handled Joe Greene better than Buehler did. George was a different kind of guy, though. Kind of spacy.
"He would say to Gene Upshaw, our left guard, 'Eugene' ... he always called him Eugene ... 'who are we paying today?' And Gene would say, 'The Pittsburgh Steelers, George.'
'And Eugene, who will I be playing against?'
'Joe Greene, George.'
'Thank you, Eugene.' "
From an impressive list of linebackers, Wolf selected Clay Matthews, who played for 19 seasons, "with very little dropoff in effectiveness," as his man.
"Every time the Broncos come up, they're always pushing Karl Mecklenburg or Randy Gradishar. Both good players, but to me, Tommy Jackson is the Hall of Famer in that group. Very fast, very productive." Yep, Jackson is right up there, but I have also been in Sam Mills' corner for quite a while, but that's horse racing.
Cortez Kennedy is Wolf's favorite defensive lineman of the six in the group. I've been wearing myself out for years, trying to get Joe Klecko some notice.
"Old-time payer, lunch pail guy," Wolf says. Yes, but he also had 20 ½ sacks one year. Unfortunately that was the year before sacks became an official statistic.
"Tom Sestak, Arnie Weinmeister, great players ... who ever heard of them?" Wolf said.
Are you counting how many players we have already put in the Hall between us? And Wolf is supposed to be a hard guy, right? I told him to fasten his seat belt because the list of defensive backs from this category -- considered but not enshrined -- would blow him away. And it did.
Eric Allen, Eagles. Steve At-water and Louie Wright, Broncos. LeRoy Butler, Packers. Kenny Easley, Seahawks. Lester Hayes, Raiders. Donnie Shell, Steelers. Albert Lewis, Chiefs and Raiders, Ken Riley ("The Rattler"), Bengals.
"My God, what a group" Wolf said. "A stunning group. I can think of seven who deserve it."
Which two don't?
"At-water and Allen."
How about the others?
"Well, if I were drafting them, this is the order in which I'd pick them. No.1 Easley. The best safety I've ever seen. The crème de la crème. Unfortunately, he got hurt. Plus he played in Vladivostok, where nobody ever heard of him.
"No. 2, Hayes. Why isn't he in the Hall of Fame? Then Lewis, really smooth, almost a perfect cornerback. Then Butler, who I really have a special affinity for. As a strong safety, he and Darren Woodson were players who dominated. Could play the run, play the pass, really good tackler, effective blitzer, could set the defenses. Those Packer teams were really his teams.
"Finally, Wright, Riley and Shell, but they're all such great players."
Ray Guy is the only punter seriously proposed and he gets dinged every year. Now I know for a fact that as an ex-Raider, he will fit right into Wolf's comfort zone.
"All I can tell you is that we went from a team that kept giving up field position, because of our punter, to one that forced the other team to have to go 78 or 80 yards."
Last area, coaches and contributors. I told Wolf that I had tried to get Shaughnessy, the father of the modern T-formation, nominated by the Seniors Committee and had failed.
"Just look at the impact this guy had on the game," Wolf said. "You know he coached the Bears' defense for a while, too. My second year as GM of the Packers, I'm in Minneapolis for the Super Bowl -- Washington against Buffalo. Richie Petitbon, who played safety for the Bears when Shaughnessy coached the defense, was coaching the Redskins' defense. And what I was looking at in that game was Shaughnessy's defense, 30 years after he'd been at Chicago.
"In 1962, I was a 23-year-old, working for Pro Football Illustrated in Chicago, just a gofer, my first job. Every morning I had to meet with George Allen of the Bears' staff. I'd bring him a prune Danish and coffee. He said that the defense was Shaughnessy's, but George Halas wouldn't let him in the office. That's how jealous he was."
Well, we've almost come to the end of the line. How about the person, whose name is on the list as a "contributor," and who had just selected about 40 Hall of Famers for the Class of '09? Wolf has no illusions about being selected for enshrinement, but you never know.
This is the history. Vince Lombardi never had a losing season. Then there followed 24 seasons with only five winning records. Then Wolf was hired from the Raiders. What he brought to Green Bay in his nine years were nine winning seasons, a Super Bowl victory, and Brett Favre, stolen from Atlanta on a trade.
Not a bad way to wrap up a career.
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<< <i>I picked up a PSA 10 1987 Zimmerman and a PSA 9 1960 Forrest Gregg in the past week or so for the HOF RC set, and also a PSA 10 1996 SP Terrell Owens for the future set. >>
Why didn't you chase the Gregg 9 that just ended for, what was it, like $550?
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<< <i>I picked up a PSA 10 1987 Zimmerman and a PSA 9 1960 Forrest Gregg in the past week or so for the HOF RC set, and also a PSA 10 1996 SP Terrell Owens for the future set. >>
Why didn't you chase the Gregg 9 that just ended for, what was it, like $550? >>
Must have missed that one, I wouldn't have let it slide that cheap unless it was butt ugly. Who won it? Hard to believe all the HOF RC guys would have passed on it when the others in VCP are $835 and $1025...
Got a link? Not in VCP or ebay ended auctions..
Jason
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Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type Country
1 1 14240878 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1955 TOPPS 28 MEL HEIN Card US
2 1 14240879 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1957 TOPPS 31 GEORGE BLANDA Card US
3 1 14240880 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1957 TOPPS 67 HARLON HILL Card US
4 1 14240881 NEAR MINT 7 1964 TOPPS 93 ED BUDDE Card US
5 1 14240882 NEAR MINT 7 1967 PHILADELPHIA 36 CHICAGO BEARS INSIGNIA Card US
6 1 14240883 N8: MISCUT 1970 TOPPS 95 RICH JACKSON Card US
Total Items: 6
Date Received: 5/20/2008
On another note: I recently sold a Little PSA 8 on Ebay and the buyer said the postmaster told him it was stolen. The package had been slit open. The buyer did purchase insurance though. Here is the cert # if anyone sees one pop up for sale. 14934777
Date Shipped: 5/29/2008
Gregg 9
Next time, its probably going to be an uninsured package, and then could get really interesting for someone out there.
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Jasen
<< <i>Here you go Jason. $566.11...
Gregg 9 >>
Well, this pretty much explains it:
Listed in category: Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Cards > Baseball-MLB > Lots > Other-Mixed
Shows you what listing in the right/wrong category can do for you. I only search football card categories on ebay..Based on the final price, many others do the same. Not to mention the old style flip which will always bring a little lower price. Here are the other Gregg 9 sales from VCP:
5/25/08 eBay Listing | Image crenderman jasp24 Best Offer $900.00
10/23/07 eBay Image fineline9s faotw29re 15 $1,025.95
3/15/07 eBay $835.19
I paid less than Joe S. (Publius) anyway...lol
Jason
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<< <i>Anyone here bidding on the Butkus in Goodwin that closes tonight ?
Almost 12 k with the vig already >>
Wow! Strong price for vintage football. I'm glad to see it finally getting
the attention it deserves.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Rgs,
Greg M.
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Rgs,
Greg M.
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I sent 12 cards in and 3 bumped
1971 Topps Terry Bradshaw PSA 7 to PSA 7.5 I got this from a board member, but can't remember who
1972 Topps Rayfield Wright PSA 8 to PSA 8.5 I got this one from Jason a long time ago
1950 Bowman Dante Lavelli PSA 6 to PSA 7
not too bad. I guess
<< <i>I just checked my reiew sub and I got some bumpage!!!!!
I sent 12 cards in and 3 bumped
1971 Topps Terry Bradshaw PSA 7 to PSA 7.5 I got this from a board member, but can't remember who
1972 Topps Rayfield Wright PSA 8 to PSA 8.5 I got this one from Jason a long time ago
1950 Bowman Dante Lavelli PSA 6 to PSA 7
not too bad. I guess >>
Vince, congrats!
If it's the same Wright I used to have in my set, I had actually sent it in a long time ago in hope of it bumping to PSA 9. Not surprised to see that one bump..
Jason
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Looking for:
Heisman Rookies
Heisman Collection set singles
Eddie George PSA rookies
<< <i>What did that Butkus psa 9 go for at the auction? >>
$11,166.03 with the juice...
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I got HAMMERED! Absolutely hammered. My lowest percentage of 10's ever. 6.5%. My previous low was 7%, I usually run 10% or more. This sub, I fully expected close to 100 10's, I got 25. I did get 150 or so 9's. O joy.
Here are the highlights
PSA 10 1995 SP Curtis Martin RC
PSA 8 1967 Philly Dave Wilcox HOF RC
PSA 8 Ray Guy rc
PSA 8 Jim Langer rc
PSA 7 Roger Wehrli RC
PSA 1 Clarke Hinkle Chicle RC (I expected a 1 or a 2)
PSA 5 Ollie Matson Bowman Small RC (BVG 6.5 crackout)
PSA 7 Tommy McDonald rc
PSA 8 Alex Karras RC
PSA 8 1971 TOpps Alex Karras (Previously rejected as min size) I expected a 9.
PSA 7 Pat Fischer RC
PSA 7 Gene Hickerson RC (Also got a 7ST, 2x PSA 5, a 6 and a 4) One had a white line on the top that looked like it might have been a pressed out crease, but I couldn't tell. Probably one of the 5's or the 4 I'm guessing.
PSA 7.5 Dave Robinson rc (Also 2x PSA 7 and an evid of trim I thought would get an 8 or 8.5) I'll resub that one
PSA 7 CHris Hanburger rc
PSA 7 Bob Trumpy rc
PSA 7 Lemar Parrish rc
PSA 7 Emmitt Thomas rc
PSA 9OC Emmitt Thomas rc (was hoping for a straight 8, it is oc though)
PSA 9 Randy Gradishar rc
PSA 9 Gary Zimmerman rc (Expected at least one 10)
PSA 10 Randall McDaniel rc
PSA 10 Aeneas Williams rc
2x PSA 9 Darren Woodson rc (thought I might sneak a 10)
PSA 10 Ben Coates rc
Anybody need PSA 9 Willie Roaf rc? I have a couple.
PSA 10 Tom Nalen rc
PSA 10 Ruben Brown rc
PSA 9 Larry Allen
PSA 10 Gino Toretta (Vince?)
PSA 10 Danny Wuerffell (Vince?)
PSA 10 Drew Brees press pass auto. Rejected before as Min Size.
PSA 9 Zach Thomas rc. Cracked from a BGS 9.5 holder. THought it might come back trimmed but I guess not.
PSA 10 Bowman Chrome Adrian Peterson
Low Points
PSA 4 Kenny Easley rc. Oy Vey
PSA 3.5 John Henry Johnson RC (I expected a 7, I have a feeling it got creased getting pulled out of the card saver)
PSA 4 Charlie Sanders rc (Ugh, a 4? WTF?) expected a 7
PSA 6 Andre Tippett rc
PSA 7 Reggie White Topps rc
PSA 8 Jerry Rice, Andree Reed & Bruce Smith ''86 Topps RCs
(4) PSA 9 Leroy Butler rc's. All were PSA 9 Crackouts, so they are spotting something, I don't know what it is
1979 Topps James Lofton BVG 8.5 Crackout. EVID OF TRIM. Absolutely stunning card, but some pd on his face kept it from a 10, thought I might get a 9. Glad the 8.5 wasn't spendy.
4x PSA 7 Darren Woodson. Thought I'd get 8's
1991 Score Supp. Erik Williams "Evid of Recoloration" Yes, seriously.
1993 SP Jerome Bettis - The best looking one I've ever pulled. "MIN SIZE" That'll get subbed again
I had a number of 1993 and 1995 SP's (this sub and my last couple of subs) get rejected as trimmed or min size. I sent in some SP All Pro's for a guy on the registry who is doing the set. I pulled every one from a box myself and got a handful as min size. The Steve Young and Steve McNair they rejected as min size last time both ended up in PSA 9 holders this time around.
Anyways, that's the high and low of it.
384 cards, 25 10's, 162 9's, 15 half grades (all 7.5 - 8.5), 11 cards rejected as min size, miscut, recoloration or trim, 9 cards with qualifiers even though I asked for NQ.
113 cards are essentially worthless. That is, rejected as evid of trim or in an essentially unsellable grade. Ie. PSA 4 Charlie Sanders, PSA 5 Del Shofner, PSA 4 Billy Wilson, PSA 8 Steve Tasker..you get the idea.
The rest are 8's or less. Pretty disappointed, but I won't lose my shorts thanks to a few cards.
Once I get these back from psa (listed as shipped already). I'll make any available to anyone who wants them.
I also got a bunch of PSA 9 Cowboys stuff and PSA 9's on modern crap for the HOF and Future HOF sets. Newton, McDaniel, Zimmerman, Martin etc.
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i've had the same results on the 93 and 95sp all-pro inserts.... at least you did get a few 10s.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Here were my 93 SP's and 95 SP's
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1993 SP 6 JEROME BETTIS FOIL
NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1993 SP 9 DREW BLEDSOE FOIL
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 23 LINCOLN KENNEDY
GEM MINT 10 1993 SP 23 LINCOLN KENNEDY
MINT 9 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM
MINT 9 1993 SP 75 JASON ELAM
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 99 REGGIE WHITE
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 99 REGGIE WHITE
MINT 9 1993 SP 123 WILL SHIELDS
MINT 9 1993 SP 150 DAN MARINO
GEM MINT 10 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 SP 211 LARRY CENTERS
N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1993 SP 8 ROBERT SMITH FOIL
MINT 9 1993 SP 241 DANA STUBBLEFIELD
MINT 9 1993 SP 241 DANA STUBBLEFIELD
MINT 9 1993 SP 259 JOHN LYNCH
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1993 SP 8 ROBERT SMITH FOIL
MINT 9 1995 SP 3 STEVE McNAIR FOIL
MINT 9 1995 SP 3 STEVE McNAIR FOIL
MINT 9 1995 SP 12 RASHAAN SALAAM FOIL
MINT 9 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL
GEM MINT 10 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL
MINT 9 1995 SP 18 CURTIS MARTIN FOIL
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 52 REGGIE WHITE
MINT 9 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 99 WARREN SAPP
MINT 9 1995 SP 103 DERRICK BROOKS
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 130 TERRELL DAVIS
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP 174 TY LAW
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-1 MARSHALL FAULK
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-1 MARSHALL FAULK
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-2 NATRONE MEANS
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-3 EMMITT SMITH
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-3 EMMITT SMITH
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-3 EMMITT SMITH
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-4 BRETT FAVRE
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-5 MICHAEL WESTBROOK
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-6 JERRY RICE
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-6 JERRY RICE
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-7 JOHN ELWAY
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-11 DREW BLEDSOE
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-14 TYRONE WHEATLEY
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-16 STEVE YOUNG
GEM MINT 10 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-15 STEVE McNAIR GOLD
MINT 9 1995 SP ALL PRO AP-16 STEVE YOUNG GOLD
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 1 JOE MONTANA
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 2 DAN MARINO
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 3 DREW BLEDSOE
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 4 BEN COATES
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 5 CURTIS MARTIN
GEM MINT 10 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 5 CURTIS MARTIN
NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 21 CHRIS WARREN
NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 22 KERRY COLLINS
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 23 MARIO BATES
NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 24 JEROME BETTIS
NEAR MINT 7 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 25 WILLIAM FLOYD
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 30 MICHAEL IRVIN
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 31 EMMITT SMITH
GEM MINT 10 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 32 RODNEY HAMPTON
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 33 HEATH SHULER
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 34 MICHAEL WESTBROOK
MINT 9 1995 SP HOLOVIEW 35 BARRY SANDERS
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I have no respect for any order that doesnt have at least one Steve Largent card in it.
Its no wonder you got hammered on grades my friend
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<< <i>What did that Butkus psa 9 go for at the auction? >>
$11,166.03 with the juice... >>
Hey E Pluribus Unum - the link to your Steve Largent Master Set isn't working ... must have changed when the registy was changed ...
"How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"