No big surprise here. But, I picked it up from eBay yesterday and it looked like a strong 8. It is currently a 7 though. Would it be worth resubmitting and pulling an 8? The top right corner could (don't have it in hand yet) keep it from a 9 probably. What do 8s go for?
* '72 BASEBALL #15 100% * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3 * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100% * L. TIANT BASIC #1 * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100% * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3 * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1 * '65 DISNEYLAND #2 * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6 * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
I was actually looking at the bottom right corner when I guessed 7. I don't think it would cross to an 8 IMO... Wait for a special and I'll cost ya $5 bucks to try..GOod luck.
I collect the 63 set and both ride side corners will keep that card at a 7 still a fair price you paid have seen 7,s go higher and that has great centering in my opinion thats the big thing when i buy 7,s or 8,s
Edited to ad i hate this darn pages not turning thing PLEASE FIX THE ISSUE PSA
Joe flunked Scanning 101 (was it 2 or 3 times Joe?). Check out his Lofton 10 scan. What a big tease!
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>Joe flunked Scanning 101 (was it 2 or 3 times Joe?). Check out his Lofton 10 scan. What a big tease! >>
ROFL
Now thats funny Andy, Ive had so many people try to tell me how to do a better job scanning and uploading to the sets, I just gave up. Ill probably scan them and send em to Josh someday and beg him to do it for me.
I heard through the grapevine that card was available, but was WAYYYYYY out of my price range...Looks like I will be moving down to 5th on the set shortly as Joe (Publius) is looking like the future #3...When i retire from the military in 5 years and get a higher paying job maybe I can run with the big dogs....lol...No time soon will I be able to drop that kinda money on any one card. My most expensive card is my Nagurski 3 that I paid $2700 for...
If its the same Baugh 8 that was floating around, its a nice 8. I may even have a leftover scan I can post...
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Jon (fight4olddc) still has one available as well, if anyone else is looking...
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Thank you guys!! Definately the cornerstone of my collection.
I had some freinds over for dinner the other day, i had it propped up on the counter so it would "naturally" come up in conversation. It gave me a chance to talk football to an otherwise disinterested crowd.
I figure there are two really hard cards to get in high grade, Baugh and Nagurski. So one down, one to go.
Oh, and I normally wouldnt have such a nice scan of a card myself, having failed scanning 101 three time for you information Andy, but the guy I bought it from had sent me that scan!!
yeah....it was propped up against a beer can....and they had to move the card away to get to the ale!!!!! yesireee andy, joe also failed his other courses also. It's not his fault...he was raided in the deep woods and the only school was a one room log cabin that also served as a bigfoot expedition base camp. He always refered to the 6th grade as his senior year!!!! I know for sure he doesn't know how to read except wiring diagrams........the other day he was reading a book to me on the phone.....once upon a time there was a black wire.....who loved and married another black wire. Mr. white wire was kinda neutral about marriage but joined in a union with mrs. white. Then along came junior green wire.........what's that word!!!! oh weeeeeell I'll just join him with the black wires. His nickname on his oregon drivers liscense is 'sparky'
So what's the big deal about some lousy baugh card....ya guys are all foaming at the mouth like ya got rabies!!!! I wouldn't want one in anything less than a 9 or 10. Just be glad there is someone out there willing to pick up those loose scraps!!!
Did I mention I have a nmt-mt bronco nagurski rc..........
Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets 1948-76 Topps FB Sets FB & BB HOF Player sets 1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>It's not his fault...he was raided in the deep woods and the only school >>
Until I realized that you were trying to say "raised", Jay, I was sitting here trying to figure out what being raided in the deep woods meant
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Thank you for clearing that up andy. Yes, uncle jay didn't take typing because he knew he would fail that course !!! I get my 2 fingers going faster than they can spell right or even hit the right keys
yes Mr Pulius......very nice card!!!! Even though I knew you had it for a little bit....I'm a little jealous when you post a card that is worth 3 times my yearly salary !!!!!!
Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets 1948-76 Topps FB Sets FB & BB HOF Player sets 1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
yes Mr Pulius......very nice card!!!! Even though I knew you had it for a little bit....I'm a little jealous when you post a card that is worth 3 times my yearly salary !!!!!! >>
Oh, Jay Z, your not fooling anyone my dear. Hows that Bob St. Clair 9 you bought a few months ago doing? Are you using it as a coaster for you hot cocoa?
I would like everyone here on the boards to know just how crazy old Jay here is. Definately one of the coolest guys Ive met on the boards and had the pleasure of talking the hobby to, but crazy like a fox.
Jay writes me poems about Bob St. Clair, left me a few messages pretending to be local Big foot control (his nickname for me is bigfoot, its an Oregon thing), sends me questionaires about how many times Ive been shocked as an electrician, we email back and forth presidential trivia. Jay also gives me heads up when good cards are on Ebay, even my kooky 56 topps presidents set. He is a prime example of how cool the guys on the boards here are. I've met so many cool guys on here....
Thanks for all the laughs and help on and off the boards Jay Z
Well, Thanks to Art, I just reached a personal milestone in this set. He sold me a very nice PSA 5 Otto Graham and that pushed me over 90% complete. I never, in my wildest dreams would think that I would get as far as I have. It's been about 6 years since I started collecting this set.
I remember saying last year (I believe when this thread was started) that It has taken me 5 years to get to 80% and will probably take me another 5 to get the last 20%. 10% in one year isn't too bad. Hopefully, this time next year, I can be at 95%
Anyway, Just a quick thank you to all of you that have helped me in one way or another. I'm sure I made transactions with most of you on this thread.....
Congrats Dave. I know this set has been a labor of love for you. I'm sure you'll be coming for me again in no time. Although, I'm hoping to sell some more stuff and have some funds to go to Sun Times next weekend and improve my set some more. If I get any upgrades that you can use, I'll let you know of course.
Man this set is unreal i had no clue that there are so many active sets going 75
Dave glad i could help a little that is a sweet 5 centering is very nice ,congrats on 90% a milestone for sure
Greg your set as well is very very nice, I was shocked to find a set that nice would be in 24th place.
You guys have it tough !!! and i cant say enough about the dedication it takes to do a set like this. I have done many sets as most of you guys know but doing the HOF Rookie set is like have over 200 low pops to find AND EVEN WORSE PAY FOR , hats off to all of you guys.
Greg might have 1 for you have a nice 51 Stautner sitting in my maybe to regrade pile rock solid 6 but looks better if you want it lmk drop me a email at jelly_man@msn.com i can send a scan if you like but trust me you will like it.
$33 is a great price. I paid $75 for mine when they were selling in the 80-90 range. Can't believe how cheap that card is now. I guess all the HOF guys got theirs.
For anyone interested, I have upgraded my Emlen Tunnell rc and now have a PSA 5 available. Asking $45 dlvd.
The nicely centered versions still sell at a premium (see 10/31/07 Largent that sold for $68.00). The Largent 8 has historically, over the years, been a $35-$50 card...Every once and awhile you'll see a spike just like some of the other rookies will, but $35-$50 has been the long term baseline for this card..I paid around $38 for my first PSA 8 back in 2000...
The PSA 9's on the other hand have risen very nicely over the years..I paid $125 for my PSA 9 back in July of 2003...These days you rarely find them under $200, with a nice one selling for $310 back in March.
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
<< <i>Jason thought you might find this interesting McAcardell 4 rec 33 yds 1 td
With James thrash now hurt Keenen will be moved to the # 2 wide out until Moss returns then will take over at #3 >>
Yeah, I saw that...He's now 781 yds short of 12,000...He's already got the required catches, so just a matter of getting the yards..He obviously isn't going to get 781 over the last 7 games of this year, so its really going to come down to him finding a job next season. He didn't make a team out of training camp this year, so definitely not a guarantee.
The other interesting guy is Rod Smith. Now confirmed out for the rest of this season, he might be finished as well...He's also got the 800+ catches, but is still short 611 yds...
Torry Holt just needs 34 catches and 625 yds over the last 7...I think he has the best chance of anyone of making the All-Time WR set THIS season...
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
yes dave there was a recent 67 kelly auction. Congrats to Mr. Publius...... Suprised at how much it went for.....but what do I know. Andy I think your 2 students are hopeless...........In siberia they shoot the teacher if their students can't learn.....I think I saw some Horse bound cossacks with swords drawn heading down the Garden state Parkway yesterday.....
I have a little question for modern FB cards? I have not opened a pack in many many years. Do these last years have SP authentic rc's......and are the rc's numbered to so called psa set standards........are they all autographed? example what would be shawme merriman's best rc? Will 2007 be coming out? is there a 2006?
Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets 1948-76 Topps FB Sets FB & BB HOF Player sets 1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
jay- you definitely have some of the most confusing posts I'll try to answer some of your questions. SP Authentic product has been issued every year sincee 1997 (prior to that year it was called SP and was first issued in 1993) There is no PSA official standard for # RC's...yet. We on the boards have assumed and used 1000 and above as a guideline. Many are autographed and some aren't. The most hi profile RC's, depending on the year. usually are numbered under 1000, with an autograph and uniform patch on the card. S. Merrimans SP Authentic RC is #207 in the 2005 set. It is autographed to 850 I believe. Hope this helps.
I write this column at about the same time, every year. It's the Hall of Fame's annual telephone directory, a.k.a. the preliminary ballot. It has more names on it than the voting registers of both Denville and Mountain Lakes, N.J., and is about as interesting ... no wait, I didn't write that ... and has some rare and exotic names, some going as far back as Watergate.
Once it was explained to me how the 124 names contained herein were submitted, but it's the kind of thing I forget without much encouragement. I think a phone call or write-in from a concerned observer might swing it. I know the lobbyists have been hard at work, as usual.
Nothing like getting a phone call from an old coach -- "You want me to ever talk to you again? You vote for my guy." Even better are the endorsements from noted public figures, on their letterhead, U.S. Congress, State House of Representatives, Hi-di-ho Box Company, whatever. I like it best when the secretary who has typed this thing is kind of in a hurry, and you find your share of howlers:
"Mr.Boselli in his career was able to amass over 300 tackles and assists ... is that what guards do?"
Enough beating about the bush. Step one of this long process is to submit to the Hall 25 choices, those whom I want to progress to step two, which chops the list down to 15. I have not fully decided in some cases, but I'll share what I have with you.
Quarterbacks. My favorite of the nine, and probably the only one I'll vote for, at this point, is Ken Anderson of the Bengals. There was nothing not to like about him. Accurate, powerful, tremendously courageous, he had Hall of Fame written all over him. The prototype, actually. My second favorite candidate is Phil Simms, and ... what the hell, I'll probably go for him, too. He felt deeply about his profession, cared more than almost any of them. Oh yes, he could also throw the hell out of the ball.
Terrell Davis is my only running back, of the six listed. I'm sure he'll make it to the final 15, which will get him into the selection meeting at the Super Bowl, and the debate will rage long and hard. Shortness of career will be the main negative, although others are in there who have done far less.
He played for seven seasons, only four of which were really outstanding ... dynamic actually ... and that's perceived as a negative. But all you have to do is look at one of the current senior candidates, Marshall Goldberg, to see the lack of logic here. His career stretched over eight years, with only two, repeat, two, functional seasons. How his name came up is a mystery. A joke, actually. But that's another matter.
In the last two years of the glory part of Davis' career, the Broncos rode his shirttails to a pair of Super Bowl titles, the only ones in their history. You could rightly say he and John Elway are the two most important people in the history of the franchise. I think that's enough of an endorsement. Quality over quantity will be my argument when this whole thing comes up in January.
I'm going heavy on the wideouts this year, for some reason. I've always been a fan of the gigantic Harold Carmichael. Cris Carter's numbers are overpowering. I don't see how they can keep him out. Andre Reed has a rough time in the balloting, usually because the competition is so stiff at this position, but I've always been in his corner and I'll continue to be. And now we come to Art Monk.
I'm tired of being a negative. I'm tired of all the impassioned letters asking me what did he ever do to me. I've been thinking long and hard about this. OK, he caught a lot of short passes but he also bought a lot of first downs, and he was a terrific team guy, well-respected and a pleasure from whom to borrow money. Why must I continue to pound a shoe on the table?
"Because the heel is falling off," says The Flaming Redhead. Hey, can't you see this is serious? What's the matter with you?
Where was I? Oh yeah, Art Monk. OK. He's got my vote. D.C. e-mailers can mail their contributions to me, care of the office.
Tight ends. Mark Bavaro. For some reason I'm blanking out. Why hasn't he made it before now? His name certainly has come up. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. This is mysterious. Have there been negatives? I can't recall any. OK, so he didn't catch as many passes as other guys did, but blocking? Oh my God, he hunted linebackers down. Defensive ends, too. Please, let's get him in there.
But let's not forget about another guy who's eminently qualified, Todd Christensen. He has been bobbing around the edges for a few years now, always backed up by tremendous numbers, never quite getting the votes to put him over. I'll always be a voice on his behalf, mainly because of the fact that for a four-year span, 1983 through '86, he defined the position. He averaged 87 catches a season, and they were a lot rougher on receivers in those days.
And there's still another tight end on this list. Right now I'm undecided. Russ Francis. Twelve years of high-quality performance. We'll see.
Bob Kuechenberg remains my No. 1 project among the moderns, now that Cliff Harris has gone into the Seniors pool. Kooch's problem is two of his Dolphin teammates went in before he had his shot. Larry Little? OK, he was a powerful guard, a friendly guy, jolly, well liked by the writers. A comfortable Hall of Fame choice. Jim Langer, the center? A bit of a mysterious choice. Even Dolphin fans were surprised. A fine player, granted, but he went in before Kooch did? Come on now.
"Kooch was the best of all of them," Don Shula growled at me in his latest phone call. "You've got to do something for him."
I'm trying, coach, Lord knows I'm trying. But what do you do when he makes it to the absolute finals and all that's required is a yea vote instead of a nay, and he still gets dinged? I mean do I call my Corsican friends in the Bronx and have them pay some of these birds a visit?
Two centers get my vote in this round, Dermontti Dawson, the cat-quick pivotman for the Steelers, and Kent Hull, who kept everything kosher up front during the Buffalo Bills' K-Gun era. Still on the O-line list, Tony Boselli bothers me. It's not the relative shortness of his career. I can live with that. It's that ... well, I probably watched more tape on him than any offensive lineman I can remember, and what I saw was a guy who burst onto the scene like a meteor, but during his career did less and less to get by.
Granted, his "less" was more than a lot of other players' "more," but I wanted to see him going after people. I wanted to see some Artie Shell there. Instead, what I saw was a guy who came to work and did his job and never really took it to the highest level. I must warn you. I think I met one other person in my life who agrees with me about this. So all you Jacksonville fans who want to tell me I'm nuts, fine. Go ahead. But I did watch this guy an awful lot.
There's always tremendous quality in the defensive line list and this year is no different. I penciled in three out of the 11 names, and I wish I could have picked more. Joe Klecko, a complete linemen who could play end or tackle, a dynamic pass rusher, a guy who was almost technically perfect against the run, is not loved by my fellow selectors, no matter how much pleading I have done. I think I know what the problem is. They look at his stats and see 24 career sacks. But those encompass the latter part of his career, when sacks became official. How about the 54 he ran up in his first five years, including 20 ½ one season? Ah, what's the use at this point? I'll save my energy for when it counts.
Chris Doleman, yeah. Richard Dent, yeah. Good linemen, fine pass rushers. But neither one of them was as good as Klecko was. You know, it just gets you down after a while.
Cortez Kennedy's name keeps staring at me from the pages of this fat book. I sure liked big Cortez when he was playing. Powerhouse, bowling-ball type. Looks like I'll have to make room for him, somehow.
Now we come to 17 linebackers, and it was agonizing, trying to trim some of these guys from the roster. Why don't I tell you the guys about whom I'm definite? Top gun is Sam Mills, a genius on the field ... one of those mystical tacklers who just seemed to be drawn to the ball like a moth to a lamp. Derrick Thomas was one of the great pass rushers of the era, and the Patriots' Andre Tippett was in the same class. And so was Kevin Greene. Ricky Jackson was underrated and overlooked at this level, but he always performed at a very high caliber. That's five I have.
Randy Gradishar is someone everybody else likes better than I do. And I'm talking now about scouts and longtime personnel people who explain to me why he was so good. OK, I'll buy it. Obviously I was missing something, but I'd really like to see the whole thing presented to me as a film study.
Thirteen defensive backs listed, and there's a reverse situation going on at this position, and I mean cornerback. At one time every team had a shutdown corner who could excel in man coverage. Now almost none do. They have cover two guys, players like Ty Law who can hang in forever, protected by the scheme and a good knowledge of the angles. The shutdown corner is a dying breed, which is why most of the names I see in front of me now are part of a rare species, to be carefully protected.
Darrell Green, Albert Lewis and The Rattler, Ken Riley ... in that order. All legitimate Hall of Famers. All terrific players. No one, repeat nobody, comes anywhere near their skill today. And if the H of F would have wanted to include Riley's teammate on the Bengals, Lemar Parrish, on its list, that wouldn't have bothered me, either.
I've allowed myself one coach's selection, and it's Clark Shaughnessy, the guy who perfected the modern T-formation with flanked receiver and man in motion. He only did it 67 years ago, and it remains our basic formation. I tried interesting the Seniors Committee in those qualifications, but they preferred a player who got one vote (Chicago Herald-American) for all-pro, as a defensive back, out of an entire career.
Whenever I see the heading, CONTRIBUTOR, I expect to see a list of donations, as they have in the college alumni reports. OK, my contributor is Art Rooney, Jr., the Steelers' personnel director who conducted drafts the likes of which the league has never seen since. His '74 draft, with Hall of Famers on the first (Swann), second (Lambert), fourth (Stallworth) and fifth (Webster) rounds, remains his monument.
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
Dr. Z has been a long time foe of Ray Guy getting into the HOF..He doesn't think Punters belong.
He's only one vote...
Jason
I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit, according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
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No big surprise here. But, I picked it up from eBay yesterday and it looked like a strong 8. It is currently a 7 though. Would it be worth resubmitting and pulling an 8? The top right corner could (don't have it in hand yet) keep it from a 9 probably. What do 8s go for?
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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Dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
I'm very happy with the overall look of this card...especially the centering. So, I'm happy either way.
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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I collect the 63 set and both ride side corners will keep that card at a 7 still a fair price you paid have seen 7,s go higher and that has great centering in my opinion thats the big thing when i buy 7,s or 8,s
Edited to ad i hate this darn pages not turning thing PLEASE FIX THE ISSUE PSA
A Sammy Baugh PSA 8 !!!! are you serious?
Awesome addition man, congrats !!
Can we see a scan of that beauty??
Gabbs
<< <i>Joe flunked Scanning 101 (was it 2 or 3 times Joe?). Check out his Lofton 10 scan. What a big tease! >>
ROFL
Now thats funny Andy, Ive had so many people try to tell me how to do a better job scanning and uploading to the sets, I just gave up. Ill probably scan them and send em to Josh someday and beg him to do it for me.
<< <i>Joe, (Publius)
A Sammy Baugh PSA 8 !!!! are you serious?
Awesome addition man, congrats !!
Can we see a scan of that beauty??
Gabbs >>
I heard through the grapevine that card was available, but was WAYYYYYY out of my price range...Looks like I will be moving down to 5th on the set shortly as Joe (Publius) is looking like the future #3...When i retire from the military in 5 years and get a higher paying job maybe I can run with the big dogs....lol...No time soon will I be able to drop that kinda money on any one card. My most expensive card is my Nagurski 3 that I paid $2700 for...
If its the same Baugh 8 that was floating around, its a nice 8. I may even have a leftover scan I can post...
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
Baugh 8
Jon (fight4olddc) still has one available as well, if anyone else is looking...
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
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Wawaweewa! Very niiiiice!
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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<< <i>SWEET SWEET SWEET Card Joe >>
Thank you guys!! Definately the cornerstone of my collection.
I had some freinds over for dinner the other day, i had it propped up on the counter so it would "naturally" come up in conversation. It gave me a chance to talk football to an otherwise disinterested crowd.
I figure there are two really hard cards to get in high grade, Baugh and Nagurski. So one down, one to go.
Oh, and I normally wouldnt have such a nice scan of a card myself, having failed scanning 101 three time for you information Andy, but the guy I bought it from had sent me that scan!!
joe
yesireee andy, joe also failed his other courses also. It's not his fault...he was raided in the deep woods and the only school was a one room log cabin that also served as a bigfoot expedition base camp. He always refered to the 6th grade as his senior year!!!!
I know for sure he doesn't know how to read except wiring diagrams........the other day he was reading a book to me on the phone.....once upon a time there was a black wire.....who loved and married another black wire. Mr. white wire was kinda neutral about marriage but joined in a union with mrs. white. Then along came junior green wire.........what's that word!!!! oh weeeeeell I'll just join him with the black wires. His nickname on his oregon drivers liscense is 'sparky'
So what's the big deal about some lousy baugh card....ya guys are all foaming at the mouth like ya got rabies!!!! I wouldn't want one in anything less than a 9 or 10. Just be glad there is someone out there willing to pick up those loose scraps!!!
Did I mention I have a nmt-mt bronco nagurski rc..........
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>It's not his fault...he was raided in the deep woods and the only school >>
Until I realized that you were trying to say "raised", Jay, I was sitting here trying to figure out what being raided in the deep woods meant
yes Mr Pulius......very nice card!!!! Even though I knew you had it for a little bit....I'm a little jealous when you post a card that is worth 3 times my yearly salary !!!!!!
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
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1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
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yes Mr Pulius......very nice card!!!! Even though I knew you had it for a little bit....I'm a little jealous when you post a card that is worth 3 times my yearly salary !!!!!! >>
Oh, Jay Z, your not fooling anyone my dear. Hows that Bob St. Clair 9 you bought a few months ago doing? Are you using it as a coaster for you hot cocoa?
I would like everyone here on the boards to know just how crazy old Jay here is. Definately one of the coolest guys Ive met on the boards and had the pleasure of talking the hobby to, but crazy like a fox.
Jay writes me poems about Bob St. Clair, left me a few messages pretending to be local Big foot control (his nickname for me is bigfoot, its an Oregon thing), sends me questionaires about how many times Ive been shocked as an electrician, we email back and forth presidential trivia. Jay also gives me heads up when good cards are on Ebay, even my kooky 56 topps presidents set. He is a prime example of how cool the guys on the boards here are. I've met so many cool guys on here....
Thanks for all the laughs and help on and off the boards Jay Z
I think I saw someone "raided in the deep woods" in the movie Deliverance!
Gabbs
I remember saying last year (I believe when this thread was started) that It has taken me 5 years to get to 80% and will probably take me another 5 to get the last 20%. 10% in one year isn't too bad. Hopefully, this time next year, I can be at 95%
Anyway, Just a quick thank you to all of you that have helped me in one way or another. I'm sure I made transactions with most of you on this thread.....
Here is my set with every card scanned and then a quick GALLERY VIEW
Here is the card that pushed me over the 90% mark....
Dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
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Greg M.
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Dave glad i could help a little that is a sweet 5 centering is very nice ,congrats on 90% a milestone for sure
Greg your set as well is very very nice, I was shocked to find a set that nice would be in 24th place.
You guys have it tough !!! and i cant say enough about the dedication it takes to do a set like this. I have done many sets as most of you guys know but doing the HOF Rookie set is like have over 200 low pops to find AND EVEN WORSE PAY FOR , hats off to all of you guys.
Greg might have 1 for you have a nice 51 Stautner sitting in my maybe to regrade pile rock solid 6 but looks better if you want it lmk drop me a email at jelly_man@msn.com i can send a scan if you like but trust me you will like it.
Art
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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Hmmmmm, I guess I missed that one
Nice pickup Arny!!
<< <i>Hmmmmm, I guess I missed that one
Nice pickup Arny!! >>
Thanks!
I got it for $33, is that a fair price?
* C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
* T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
* L. TIANT BASIC #1
* DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
* MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
* PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
* '65 DISNEYLAND #2
* '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
* '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1
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FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
Arnie :
I cut and pasted the data from VCP (vintagecardprices.com) on a Largent 8 .
David
Hall of Fame Card Profile of Steve Largent (177)
Player: Steve Largent
Name on Card: Steve Largent
Variation:
Card Number: 177
Category: Football
Year: 1977
Set Name: 1977 Topps
Card Size:
Number of cards in set: 528
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 8 - Last 5 Sales Average Price: $41.23
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For anyone interested, I have upgraded my Emlen Tunnell rc and now have a PSA 5 available. Asking $45 dlvd.
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
The PSA 9's on the other hand have risen very nicely over the years..I paid $125 for my PSA 9 back in July of 2003...These days you rarely find them under $200, with a nice one selling for $310 back in March.
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
With James thrash now hurt Keenen will be moved to the # 2 wide out until Moss returns then will take over at #3
<< <i>Jason thought you might find this interesting McAcardell 4 rec 33 yds 1 td
With James thrash now hurt Keenen will be moved to the # 2 wide out until Moss returns then will take over at #3 >>
Yeah, I saw that...He's now 781 yds short of 12,000...He's already got the required catches, so just a matter of getting the yards..He obviously isn't going to get 781 over the last 7 games of this year, so its really going to come down to him finding a job next season. He didn't make a team out of training camp this year, so definitely not a guarantee.
The other interesting guy is Rod Smith. Now confirmed out for the rest of this season, he might be finished as well...He's also got the 800+ catches, but is still short 611 yds...
Torry Holt just needs 34 catches and 625 yds over the last 7...I think he has the best chance of anyone of making the All-Time WR set THIS season...
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
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Ill be at a local watering hole tonight watching the Seahawks vanquish yet another foe (hopefully), but my snipe is set.
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Ill be at a local watering hole tonight watching the Seahawks vanquish yet another foe (hopefully), but my snipe is set. >>
Beating up on the 49ers is akin to beating up the retarded kid who rides the short bus to school
Greg M.
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1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
watch out that's where the top predators go huntig for a meal...like the lions and cougars.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
Look what I can do JZ
Dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
<< <i> Beating up on the 49ers is akin to beating up the retarded kid who rides the short bus to school
Greg M. >>
Greg
Speaking of, when DO the Dolphins play the 49 ers, and who would be considered the retarded kid in that case?
These are going on the bay in a couple days along with many more 63 ,s and a run of 67 phillys thought i would offer them here 1st .
SALE PRICE IS AVG VCP
All 63 topps
44 JONES PSA 7
95 WOOD PSA 7 --------------------sold
96 NITSCHKE PSA 7---------------sold
155 WILSON PSA 8
CAN REACH ME AT JELLY_MAN@MSN.COM Yes i will trade them all for a Bronko 8
Art
Andy I think your 2 students are hopeless...........In siberia they shoot the teacher if their students can't learn.....I think I saw some Horse bound cossacks with swords drawn heading down the Garden state Parkway yesterday.....
I have a little question for modern FB cards? I have not opened a pack in many many years. Do these last years have SP authentic rc's......and are the rc's numbered to so called psa set standards........are they all autographed? example what would be shawme merriman's best rc? Will 2007 be coming out? is there a 2006?
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
I'll try to answer some of your questions. SP Authentic product has been issued every year sincee 1997 (prior to that year it was called SP and was first issued in 1993)
There is no PSA official standard for # RC's...yet. We on the boards have assumed and used 1000 and above as a guideline. Many are autographed and some aren't. The most hi profile RC's, depending on the year. usually are numbered under 1000, with an autograph and uniform patch on the card. S. Merrimans SP Authentic RC is #207 in the 2005 set. It is autographed to 850 I believe.
Hope this helps.
Dutch Clark PSA 8
dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
I write this column at about the same time, every year. It's the Hall of Fame's annual telephone directory, a.k.a. the preliminary ballot. It has more names on it than the voting registers of both Denville and Mountain Lakes, N.J., and is about as interesting ... no wait, I didn't write that ... and has some rare and exotic names, some going as far back as Watergate.
Once it was explained to me how the 124 names contained herein were submitted, but it's the kind of thing I forget without much encouragement. I think a phone call or write-in from a concerned observer might swing it. I know the lobbyists have been hard at work, as usual.
Nothing like getting a phone call from an old coach -- "You want me to ever talk to you again? You vote for my guy." Even better are the endorsements from noted public figures, on their letterhead, U.S. Congress, State House of Representatives, Hi-di-ho Box Company, whatever. I like it best when the secretary who has typed this thing is kind of in a hurry, and you find your share of howlers:
"Mr.Boselli in his career was able to amass over 300 tackles and assists ... is that what guards do?"
Enough beating about the bush. Step one of this long process is to submit to the Hall 25 choices, those whom I want to progress to step two, which chops the list down to 15. I have not fully decided in some cases, but I'll share what I have with you.
Quarterbacks. My favorite of the nine, and probably the only one I'll vote for, at this point, is Ken Anderson of the Bengals. There was nothing not to like about him. Accurate, powerful, tremendously courageous, he had Hall of Fame written all over him. The prototype, actually. My second favorite candidate is Phil Simms, and ... what the hell, I'll probably go for him, too. He felt deeply about his profession, cared more than almost any of them. Oh yes, he could also throw the hell out of the ball.
Terrell Davis is my only running back, of the six listed. I'm sure he'll make it to the final 15, which will get him into the selection meeting at the Super Bowl, and the debate will rage long and hard. Shortness of career will be the main negative, although others are in there who have done far less.
He played for seven seasons, only four of which were really outstanding ... dynamic actually ... and that's perceived as a negative. But all you have to do is look at one of the current senior candidates, Marshall Goldberg, to see the lack of logic here. His career stretched over eight years, with only two, repeat, two, functional seasons. How his name came up is a mystery. A joke, actually. But that's another matter.
In the last two years of the glory part of Davis' career, the Broncos rode his shirttails to a pair of Super Bowl titles, the only ones in their history. You could rightly say he and John Elway are the two most important people in the history of the franchise. I think that's enough of an endorsement. Quality over quantity will be my argument when this whole thing comes up in January.
I'm going heavy on the wideouts this year, for some reason. I've always been a fan of the gigantic Harold Carmichael. Cris Carter's numbers are overpowering. I don't see how they can keep him out. Andre Reed has a rough time in the balloting, usually because the competition is so stiff at this position, but I've always been in his corner and I'll continue to be. And now we come to Art Monk.
I'm tired of being a negative. I'm tired of all the impassioned letters asking me what did he ever do to me. I've been thinking long and hard about this. OK, he caught a lot of short passes but he also bought a lot of first downs, and he was a terrific team guy, well-respected and a pleasure from whom to borrow money. Why must I continue to pound a shoe on the table?
"Because the heel is falling off," says The Flaming Redhead. Hey, can't you see this is serious? What's the matter with you?
Where was I? Oh yeah, Art Monk. OK. He's got my vote. D.C. e-mailers can mail their contributions to me, care of the office.
Tight ends. Mark Bavaro. For some reason I'm blanking out. Why hasn't he made it before now? His name certainly has come up. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. This is mysterious. Have there been negatives? I can't recall any. OK, so he didn't catch as many passes as other guys did, but blocking? Oh my God, he hunted linebackers down. Defensive ends, too. Please, let's get him in there.
But let's not forget about another guy who's eminently qualified, Todd Christensen. He has been bobbing around the edges for a few years now, always backed up by tremendous numbers, never quite getting the votes to put him over. I'll always be a voice on his behalf, mainly because of the fact that for a four-year span, 1983 through '86, he defined the position. He averaged 87 catches a season, and they were a lot rougher on receivers in those days.
And there's still another tight end on this list. Right now I'm undecided. Russ Francis. Twelve years of high-quality performance. We'll see.
Bob Kuechenberg remains my No. 1 project among the moderns, now that Cliff Harris has gone into the Seniors pool. Kooch's problem is two of his Dolphin teammates went in before he had his shot. Larry Little? OK, he was a powerful guard, a friendly guy, jolly, well liked by the writers. A comfortable Hall of Fame choice. Jim Langer, the center? A bit of a mysterious choice. Even Dolphin fans were surprised. A fine player, granted, but he went in before Kooch did? Come on now.
"Kooch was the best of all of them," Don Shula growled at me in his latest phone call. "You've got to do something for him."
I'm trying, coach, Lord knows I'm trying. But what do you do when he makes it to the absolute finals and all that's required is a yea vote instead of a nay, and he still gets dinged? I mean do I call my Corsican friends in the Bronx and have them pay some of these birds a visit?
Two centers get my vote in this round, Dermontti Dawson, the cat-quick pivotman for the Steelers, and Kent Hull, who kept everything kosher up front during the Buffalo Bills' K-Gun era. Still on the O-line list, Tony Boselli bothers me. It's not the relative shortness of his career. I can live with that. It's that ... well, I probably watched more tape on him than any offensive lineman I can remember, and what I saw was a guy who burst onto the scene like a meteor, but during his career did less and less to get by.
Granted, his "less" was more than a lot of other players' "more," but I wanted to see him going after people. I wanted to see some Artie Shell there. Instead, what I saw was a guy who came to work and did his job and never really took it to the highest level. I must warn you. I think I met one other person in my life who agrees with me about this. So all you Jacksonville fans who want to tell me I'm nuts, fine. Go ahead. But I did watch this guy an awful lot.
There's always tremendous quality in the defensive line list and this year is no different. I penciled in three out of the 11 names, and I wish I could have picked more. Joe Klecko, a complete linemen who could play end or tackle, a dynamic pass rusher, a guy who was almost technically perfect against the run, is not loved by my fellow selectors, no matter how much pleading I have done. I think I know what the problem is. They look at his stats and see 24 career sacks. But those encompass the latter part of his career, when sacks became official. How about the 54 he ran up in his first five years, including 20 ½ one season? Ah, what's the use at this point? I'll save my energy for when it counts.
Chris Doleman, yeah. Richard Dent, yeah. Good linemen, fine pass rushers. But neither one of them was as good as Klecko was. You know, it just gets you down after a while.
Cortez Kennedy's name keeps staring at me from the pages of this fat book. I sure liked big Cortez when he was playing. Powerhouse, bowling-ball type. Looks like I'll have to make room for him, somehow.
Now we come to 17 linebackers, and it was agonizing, trying to trim some of these guys from the roster. Why don't I tell you the guys about whom I'm definite? Top gun is Sam Mills, a genius on the field ... one of those mystical tacklers who just seemed to be drawn to the ball like a moth to a lamp. Derrick Thomas was one of the great pass rushers of the era, and the Patriots' Andre Tippett was in the same class. And so was Kevin Greene. Ricky Jackson was underrated and overlooked at this level, but he always performed at a very high caliber. That's five I have.
Randy Gradishar is someone everybody else likes better than I do. And I'm talking now about scouts and longtime personnel people who explain to me why he was so good. OK, I'll buy it. Obviously I was missing something, but I'd really like to see the whole thing presented to me as a film study.
Thirteen defensive backs listed, and there's a reverse situation going on at this position, and I mean cornerback. At one time every team had a shutdown corner who could excel in man coverage. Now almost none do. They have cover two guys, players like Ty Law who can hang in forever, protected by the scheme and a good knowledge of the angles. The shutdown corner is a dying breed, which is why most of the names I see in front of me now are part of a rare species, to be carefully protected.
Darrell Green, Albert Lewis and The Rattler, Ken Riley ... in that order. All legitimate Hall of Famers. All terrific players. No one, repeat nobody, comes anywhere near their skill today. And if the H of F would have wanted to include Riley's teammate on the Bengals, Lemar Parrish, on its list, that wouldn't have bothered me, either.
I've allowed myself one coach's selection, and it's Clark Shaughnessy, the guy who perfected the modern T-formation with flanked receiver and man in motion. He only did it 67 years ago, and it remains our basic formation. I tried interesting the Seniors Committee in those qualifications, but they preferred a player who got one vote (Chicago Herald-American) for all-pro, as a defensive back, out of an entire career.
Whenever I see the heading, CONTRIBUTOR, I expect to see a list of donations, as they have in the college alumni reports. OK, my contributor is Art Rooney, Jr., the Steelers' personnel director who conducted drafts the likes of which the league has never seen since. His '74 draft, with Hall of Famers on the first (Swann), second (Lambert), fourth (Stallworth) and fifth (Webster) rounds, remains his monument.
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
He's only one vote...
Jason
according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.