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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Ron - Its a solid 40 - don't think it'll make a 45.
    JMHO.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree with Mike but I wouldn't be shocked to see it as a 45.

    Mike I know how much I hope my favorite from your set sells for...does that count? image
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Here's a 1902-S half that I've had for a few years, not totally sure if it's original but people tell me it's a scarcer date than the price guides would indicate. I like the coin but I sure would like to know if its been cleaned and re-toned or original. Anyway what you see is what I have.imageimage
    Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-
  • BarberFanaticBarberFanatic Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's a 1902-S half that I've had for a few years, not totally sure if it's original but people tell me it's a scarcer date than the price guides would indicate. I like the coin but I sure would like to know if its been cleaned and re-toned or original. Anyway what you see is what I have. >>



    I'm sorry to report that your 02-S (while certainly one of the sleeper key dates in the series) has absolutely, definitely been cleaned. image
    My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
  • BarberFanaticBarberFanatic Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Picked this 1907-O half up today. I think it's fully XF40, if not 45. What do you think? >>



    A definite 40, but I've seen coins its equal in PCGS 45 plastic (incorrectly in 45 plastic I might add).
    My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭


    <<I'm sorry to report that your 02-S (while certainly one of the sleeper key dates in the series) has absolutely, definitely been cleaned. image >>

    >> Psst! Hey buddy, wanna buy a coin?image But seriously BarberFanatic, I hear ya. I'm bummed about the whole thing and what I'll end up doing IS sell this abomination and wash my hands of the whole thing. I only have 3 raw coins in my collection and this is one of them. I will never buy a raw coin again. Whew! I feel better now. The kicker of the whole thing is I like Barbers, but I'll just stick to graded examples from now on.
    Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-
  • BarberFanaticBarberFanatic Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I only have 3 raw coins in my collection and this is one of them. I will never buy a raw coin again. Whew! I feel better now. The kicker of the whole thing is I like Barbers, but I'll just stick to graded examples from now on. >>



    I think you'll be missing out on a LOT of good coins by adopting that stance. I would recommend using this instance as a learning experience. Consider it part of your "Numismatic Tuition." Take an opportunity to learn what 100+ year old silver should look like considering that it naturally goes through a process of oxidation. If you want really good information about what to look for, I would suggest getting in contact with TomB. He is one of the board experts on Barber material, a molecular chemist (I think) by training, and he has written a very thorough piece about coin toning that used to be available on his website (not sure if it's still there or not). At any rate, once you know what to look for, you'll see that there are many raw coins worth owning.
    My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, Leon - your favorite and the amount you think it will sell for [ without the 15% buyers fees ].

    Again, the closest to the actual winning amout of your coin of choice will win a token momento... as I
    mentioned - don't get your hope's up too much... ha, ha.

    Lets say, my 1895-O Dime in PCGS AU 58 ... top/ winning bid [ lets just throw out a number here ] might be $5400.
    If you guessed $4900 - and no one was closer in their bid guesses by $500 - then you would win.

    Obviously - I know how someone could easily win - but - I mentioned that they should
    pick their favorite from any of my sets and price it accordingly.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    ajman - are you going to the ANA in Chicago ? Stop by table 1324 and say hello;
    either I or Glenn will be happy to show you hundreds of beautiful and original Barbers.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    I was killing some time on the registry the other evening. I started viewing the Sundance collection. I must have gone through the pictures 3 or 4 different times. Don't know if the person is a member here or not, but they must be commended on one great looking mid-grade half set. There is a lot of wonderful pieces in there. image
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Justin,

    The Sundance Collection belongs to
    Tyler Child who is known here as ARCO

    He has a great eye for "the perfect for the grade"
    Barber Half Dollar. He's assembled a number of sets
    and sold off his duplicates.

    The 1893-S in XF 45 is without a doubt one of the
    most detailed circulated coin I have ever seen and
    has as much detail as my AU 58, his coin is just dark
    and mine has bulls-eye toning.

    Here they are for a side by side comparison...

    imageimage

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    His 93-S is just one of those coins I dream about owning. That is one beauty of a coin.

    Your's isn't so bad either, Mike. image
  • BarberFanaticBarberFanatic Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>His 93-S is just one of those coins I dream about owning. That is one beauty of a coin.

    Your's isn't so bad either, Mike. image >>



    True story about Tyler's 93-S... he bought the coin on Ebay several years ago. I happened to see the coin on the Ebay listings and I clicked on the photo to open up the lot to see the larger photo and description. The page loaded and the picture came up with the description. I saw immediately that it was a spectacularly original looking piece. I glanced at the price (I don't remember what it was... something absurdly low for the quality is all I remember) and saw that it was still available for purchase. I immediately clicked the Buy It Now. Imagine my surprise and dismay when the screen opened that said the coin was no longer for sale. I remember verbally screaming, "NOOOOOOO!" when I saw that... because I realized that I had missed buying the coin by literally 1 or 2 seconds!!! It still haunts me to this day. Tyler's one of my oldest Barber buddies, so if anyone but me owns that coin I'm glad he does.

    But it still sticks in my craw to this day that I missed out on it by a couple of seconds! Now I have a super-nice 93-S XF40 so it does take some of the sting away. image
    My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>His 93-S is just one of those coins I dream about owning. That is one beauty of a coin.

    Your's isn't so bad either, Mike. image >>



    True story about Tyler's 93-S... he bought the coin on Ebay several years ago. I happened to see the coin on the Ebay listings and I clicked on the photo to open up the lot to see the larger photo and description. The page loaded and the picture came up with the description. I saw immediately that it was a spectacularly original looking piece. I glanced at the price (I don't remember what it was... something absurdly low for the quality is all I remember) and saw that it was still available for purchase. I immediately clicked the Buy It Now. Imagine my surprise and dismay when the screen opened that said the coin was no longer for sale. I remember verbally screaming, "NOOOOOOO!" when I saw that... because I realized that I had missed buying the coin by literally 1 or 2 seconds!!! It still haunts me to this day. Tyler's one of my oldest Barber buddies, so if anyone but me owns that coin I'm glad he does.

    But it still sticks in my craw to this day that I missed out on it by a couple of seconds! Now I have a super-nice 93-S XF40 so it does take some of the sting away. image >>



    If it's the same one on your site, then it's a beauty too. image


    Maybe Mr. Child will give you the right of first refusal? image
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Well, Tyler, what do you say ?

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Mike: There are several favorites. I'll let you know what I expect they will bring AFTER the sale!

    ____________
    Craig
    Craig


  • LVGTLVGT Posts: 503
    Here is a PCGS 55 that I recently got back from PCGS. I purchased this raw off ebay for around $35 - 40 bucks about a year ago.

    imageimage
  • LVGTLVGT Posts: 503
    Edited second post. Neither one would show up on my screen until you sent that reply.
  • BarberFanaticBarberFanatic Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭
    Amazing. Those two coins look virtually identical. image
    My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Edited second post. Neither one would show up on my screen until you sent that reply. >>



    It happens to me all the time... it takes three posts to
    get the first of the three to show up... usually, I just add
    an image of something - and repeat until the post shows up
    ... then do as you did, edit it.


    BTW - that's a really nice coin - and you stole it !!
    Congrats - and look forward to more of your
    lucky finds.

    image
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, Tyler, what do you say ? >>

    Sorry, Didn't notice the Barber talk with me involved.

    Tis' true exactly as Cary has written. The 1893-S was in an Anacs XF40 holder with a BIN of $450.00. I took all of five seconds to scan the coin and to see that it was a near perfect specimen. I immediately went to the BIN and pulled the trigger. I was estatic. I recieved an Email about five minutes later from Cary. Cary and I had been communicating often and Cary had just begun to collect the halves after a long hiatus. Well, Cary was pretty discouraged after missing the coin and I felt bad for him as I knew that the 93-S was an important coin for him (as it is for all Barber collectors).

    Anyway, it is a beautiful coin that I thought graded at least in the AU range, but it fit better into my set as a PCGS XF45.

    Tyler

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was killing some time on the registry the other evening. I started viewing the Sundance collection. I must have gone through the pictures 3 or 4 different times. Don't know if the person is a member here or not, but they must be commended on one great looking mid-grade half set. There is a lot of wonderful pieces in there. image >>


    Thanks Logpotato. It is...it was my set. It took about 7 years to complete with still a few dates lacking the eye appeal I wanted, but overall I was rather pleased with it.

    Tyler

  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Ok... my little contest is over Wednesday night - at Midnight - August 10th.

    The auctions start on Thursday the 11th of August.

    As no one has guessed anything - either by PM or here,
    I guess Barber Dimes are no longer popular... can't even
    give them away.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks, glad you like them -

    question... does anyone have a favorite from my sets ?

    Also... what do you think it'll bring at auction ? [ pre- Buyers Commission ]

    The poster with the closest answer will win one of my certified Barbers.
    More than likely a Dime. [ don't get too excited - most nicer ones were
    sold to the JMW Collection or put up at auction... but I have a lot of dupes !! ] >>



    I mentioned that my little contest would end at Midnight this Wednesday - August 10th.

    I've received a few PM's - and expect to get a few more before the cut off.

    Good luck.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    As no one has guessed anything - either by PM or here,
    I guess Barber Dimes are no longer popular... can't even
    give them away.


    Mike I hope and don't think that's true! image

    I just bought a F+ to XF+ original raw set that's one of the nicest I have seen in a long time and working it up ahead of the show.

    There is also a large group of Barber Halves I am working on now and will have up on the site this evening just ahead of Chicago.

    In that group there are 3 out of my Registry Set from a few years back. It is awesome to see these again and I find them just as nice and exciting to see as I did when I originally owned and bought them as a collector. They may be posted on here somewhere but thought you might enjoy seeing them again. In my day I wasn't chasing grades but the look of the coin itself, and while not everyone likes toning, I always did.

    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage

    Before these go up on the website tonight anyone want to play guess the grade?

    Two of the 3 are also CAC, any guesses which ones?

    Enjoy.
    The End of the Line in the West.

    Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I really wasn't serious... image...

    Ok - my guesses:

    50, CAC

    53, CAC

    55
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    There is also a large group of Barber Halves I am working on now and will have up on the site this evening just ahead of Chicago.
    >>



    Eeekkk! Any F-VF's in that mix? I bought two from you yesterday. image
  • LucanusLucanus Posts: 424 ✭✭✭
    1908- AU55
    1911- AU58
    1912- AU58
  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    1908 AU-50 CAC
    1911 AU-55
    1912 AU-55 CAC
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I really wasn't serious... image...

    Ok - my guesses:

    50, CAC

    53, CAC

    55 >>


    How about 63, 64 and 64.
  • RedglobeRedglobe Posts: 659 ✭✭✭
    50

    55 CAC

    53 CAC


    Rob
    Rob
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I really wasn't serious... image...

    Ok - my guesses:

    50, CAC

    53, CAC

    55 >>


    How about 63, 64 and 64. >>



    image... wondered why you're in the MS grades...
    you must know something I don't know ... or should I
    say "didn't know".

    I HATE grading MS coins from pictures on line.

    Not the best images - sorry to say. The eagle's feather
    details are not brought up that well ... and what appears
    to be rub on the cheeks is actually toning ?

    Nice coins, regardless.

    I have a question for all those who answered after my guesses:
    did I influence your grading decisions - or - were you convinced
    of your gardes without any outside influence ? Just curious.



    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,420 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I really wasn't serious... image...

    Ok - my guesses:

    50, CAC

    53, CAC

    55 >>


    How about 63, 64 and 64. >>



    image... wondered why you're in the MS grades...
    you must know something I don't know ... or should I
    say "didn't know".

    I HATE grading MS coins from pictures on line.

    Not the best images - sorry to say. The eagle's feather
    details are not brought up that well ... and what appears
    to be rub on the cheeks is actually toning ?

    Nice coins, regardless.

    I have a question for all those who answered after my guesses:
    did I influence your grading decisions - or - were you convinced
    of your gardes without any outside influence ? Just curious. >>



    I owned all three. Purchased for their original look, a look that most coins no longer have thanks to dipping.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    image

    I thought the trio looked original -
    and you just can't find that look
    anymore [ to speak of ] as you said
    most are dipped out.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • Those are gorgeous looking coins...and well beyond my XF-45 eye...so I'll leave it up to the experts!
  • BarberFanaticBarberFanatic Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭
    The three Glenn posted are definitely MS coins. It's impossible to accurately and consistently grade high level AU and all MS coins from photographs. It can't be done. Many times, like this one, toning can give the illusion of wear. You have to have the coin in hand. You have to.
    My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Glenn:

    Somewhat difficult to tell from the images, but from what I can see:

    58
    62 CAC
    64 CAC

    All quite nice!

    ___________
    Craig

    Craig


  • PonyExpress8PonyExpress8 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭
    I put the photos up as a bit of a statement and challenge as to grading from photographs. All 3 coins are PCGS MS64 coins, and the 1908 and 1912 are CAC stickered. The photos were done by an excellent photographer.

    The thing is, you can't rotate a coin under a light and see what's going on from a photo. Think of it as 2-dimensional vs. 3-dimensional. You just can't see the total coin from a photograph no matter how well done it is.

    Another point then is buying from an auction photograph is just a mistake waiting to happen. As a collector looking to add to your collection from an auction source or an online source, if you can't see the coin, or have a high degree of trust with the seller, then you better have someone you trust look at the coin in hand. These aren't pricey coins for a lot of folks, yet who wants to make a 4-figure decision based upon a photo.

    Most of you looking at these photos called the coins AU and original toned surfaces are more difficult to photograph, as well as being able to determine what the coin truly is. I would invite any of you to take a look at these in Chicago if you are there in person and they haven't sold.

    I posted these for the purpose of education and enlightenment. I hope everyone will consider and tuck this away in their arsenal when buying a coin.

    See you in Chicago. image
    The End of the Line in the West.

    Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,662 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just picked up this 1912-S half for my VG-F Dansco 7150 set.

    It was similar enough to my existing one that I ran a poll to decide which to keep. Posted below are the new coin (which I kept), then the coin it replaced, and the cheap but irresistible 1914 dime I bought with the latest half. (Note that these are scans and not photographs- but I've found the scanner does all right with "crusty" Barber halves- better than I'd dared to expect).



    image

    image

    image

    Explore collections of lordmarcovan on CollecOnline, management, safe-keeping, sharing and valuation solution for art piece and collectibles.
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    I would have never guessed that 1908 was MS, of course I'm not very good at grading higher grade coins in the first place. I leave that to the experts.
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    Less than 24 hours of on-line bidding left on MFH's Barbers in the pre-ANA Heritage sale. I see many of his AU 58 halves already have strong bids, but I think many will go up more. Good luck on the sale, Mike!
    Dr. Pete
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dr. Pete...no offense but...sssshhhhh!!! Just kidding and I agree that some will go higher. image
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • PonyExpress8 and BarberFanatic,
    Thanks for the tips and wisdom. It's very difficult to grade a coin from a photo in the upper AU and MS ranges...must have the coin in hand...but then again, in my novice pursuit of this hobby, I'd probably have a hard time even if I had coin in hand! Nonetheless, you made a very important point...if possible, get a first-hand look at the coin or have a representative do it for you...particularly on the more expensive coins. Thanks again...your advice is invaluable.
  • elmeisterelmeister Posts: 117 ✭✭
    200+ pages of goodness... this is a series I haven't paid much attention to but it's slowly becoming one of my favs. Here's my only example (from my ever growing type-set)... MS-63... crusty w/ deep original skin. I'm watching a number of MFH's as well.. hope i can add a nice piece or two this weekend

    image
    image
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    Glenn:

    Well saidimage
    Craig


  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks, Peter.

    Arrived in Chicago about 3:30 -
    checked into the Marriott - then
    picked up catalogs - and circled my
    consigned lots. Going back in the
    morning to view others as well.

    Glenn accompanied me and he
    kept pulling out different halves,
    and seems as if I owned most of
    the ones he was showing me. LOL

    Take my word for it - there are some serious
    and I mean serious bargains going on.

    Everyone seems to think I'll do extremely well
    but to be frank, I'd just like to recoup my original
    expenditures.

    Some odds and ends are reaching unimagined
    levels - and some are but a fraction of what I
    paid - even with the low levels of reserves that
    were placed on some of the collection. Some of
    the reserves are at less than 50% of what I paid.

    Remember, my friends, what I have kept telling you:

    Bid Early and Often !!

    Best of luck to all of you as well as my good friend
    Brandon's "Bodacious Barber Collection". He's a
    great guy and has a really nice set of Halves.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • LVGTLVGT Posts: 503
    Elmeister,

    That coin looks very familiar! It was one of two barber quarters I purchased raw on ebay when I first started collecting. I submitted your coin last October and recently submitted the Au55 a few pages back.

    Glad to see your enjoying it as well.


  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    No new posts for a while. Anyone going to Long Beach should stop by the PCGS table and have a look at my registry set of Barber Halves. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend and greet interested collectors, but stop by and see my coins if you get a chance.
    Dr. Pete
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No new posts for a while. Anyone going to Long Beach should stop by the PCGS table and have a look at my registry set of Barber Halves. Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend and greet interested collectors, but stop by and see my coins if you get a chance. >>



    That's pretty cool of you to have the set for viewing. Wish I lived a little closer (PA).

    I have bought a few F-VF halves lately, I'm holding off until the November Whitman show to let someone more qualified to take pictures for me.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I just got delivery of this Dime today.

    Yup, I'm still plugging away at my cousin's son's set
    that I started with him last year in Boston at the ANA.

    image
    image

    I also picked up a nice Half for the latest raw Dansco set...
    ...images to follow...
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases

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