Received the CD from BluCCphotos with my Liberty Head Nickels [ original set from my Grandfather ] - my PCGS rejected Barber Dimes [now holdered by NGC -"Details Graded" ] - and four of my AU 58 Barber Halves. [ Plus a few odds and ends of no real consequence here ].
I need to transfer the images to my Photobucket account; I still can't figure out how to use BluCCphotos site as a Host Site. Its all above me, believe me.
Here's a sampling [ this is the only Dime to get a numerical grade ]:
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Here are a couple of new images - the 1898 Nickel - in PCGS 58 was a pocket change find by my Grandfather.
The 1911 Nickel - also in a PCGS 58 holder - is a newp from Glenn Holsonbake.
The images were sent to me on CD and I can't rotate them on my lap top. The rotation icon on the bottom of my screen is "grey'd out " and won't allow me to straighten the images out.
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I'm still scratching my head on most of the dozen coins rejected by PCGS as being cleaned. Only the 1908-O Dime was a mistake-purchase on my part. I bought it sight unseen years ago on a Teletrade telephone auction and it was in an Old Cachet ANACS holder - as an AU 58. I was fairly new to collecting AU Barber Dimes - and I assumed the coin was just darkly toned. PCGS bagged it - and NGC placed it in a Details Graded Holder. Environmental damage - AU Details.
I saw nothing wrong with the 02-P either - its a spectacular looking coin.
I'll post other images later tonight when I have the chance.
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Hello everyone, I've been wondering whats the opinion of everyone on this thread when it comes to the info in Coin-facts dealing with Barber Halves? Specifically the rarity levels PCGS assigns. I'll admit I like Coin-facts (use it daily) a lot of info but their rarity ratings are sometimes a lot different then over at BCCS. But then again who would be in a better position to judge remaining quantities and rarity's then a TPG?
USAFRETWI, I don't subscribe to PCGS Coin Facts so I can't vouch for any of the rarity ratings posted there. As for BCCS, they seem to have a fairly good handle on rarity ratings...but in the end, it all depends on the collector, finances, availability, and demand. There are many coins that are underrated as many on these boards can attest to...if you look at the population reports, some of these coins only come around every couple of years. The 04-S is overrated IMHO as well as some other "key dates"...I personally think the 02-S, 05-O, and many others are as rare as the 04-S. It's all in what you're looking for, your pocketbook, and your patience. I recall many avid collectors yearning for such prevalent dates as an 05-P or a 94-O...although they are not considered rare. Again, it's all about finances, demand, and availability.
CoinFacts is a continuous work in progress. I frequent the Barber half section and have noticed that it was really enhanced around the time of the sale of the Dr. and Mrs Steve Duckor collection at the 2010 ANA sale in Boston. The Duckor set got completely imaged and most of the coins attributed. The top end of the Barber half section was greatly enhanced by the addition of this information, which also had a lot of input from David Akers, one of the most knowledgeable, if not THE most knowledgeable individuals about top-end Barber halves. The collection of Dale Friend also sold recently enoug to provide additional coin information. Add to that my set as listed in detail in the set registry, and we have a large number of the top known specimens accounted for. There is also a top-listed set in the NGC registry called YeOldOne that has many very top-end coins in both NGC and PCGS holders. Some of these coins came from other collections including some from Dr. Duckor, Dale Friend, and a duplicate or two I had.
Thus, CoinFacts has a lot of information about the relatively limited number of high-end mint state gem coins, and less about lower grade mint state coins and circulated issues. Pricing information is always problematic, and it is through auction records that one can obtain some of the most recent and accurate values, and where it is possible, CoinFacts has this information incorporated into their pricing. Also, the PCGS site has direct connections to a large body of auction records, some going back as far as 50-60 years or even more. The focus is generally on the mint state coins, but more information is generated about circulated material as such becomes available, and I have seen more and more lower grade barber halves being graded by PCGS and for sale in a number of venues including auctions, web sites, and eBay. We will be able to see more information as time goes on. For instance, the amazing complete PCGS-graded EF45 set that Craig Peterson put together is completely imaged throughout the listings in CoinFacts, but the number of Barber halves that have been certified in EF45 condition is very limited, and sales of such coins are not well documented. This particular grade will get a lot of new information as the Craig's former set is being sold at auction in two weeks at the FUN sale, by Heritage. It will be interesting to see how the prices generated in this sale are incorporated into the price structure of CoinFacts. All told, there are nearly 80 EF45 PCGS-graded Barber halves in this sale which is a significant percentage of all EF45 coins graded by PCGS.
I will continue to watch and enjoy the CoinFacts site. I may even provide additional content, as I was able to for the micro O half. Finding the time to do such writing is always my biggest issue, but I generally enjoy doing so. It is what makes this hobby so enjoyable for me.
<< <i>Interesting development on the top-end 04-S halves. Until very recently, the condition census had the top three 1904-S barber halves as two PCGS-graded and one NGC-graded. All three are now PCGS-graded and have wonderful pedigrees.
Here's the known top four coins with abbreviated pedigrees: 1. PCGS 67 secure, James Stack, Dr. Steve Duckor, sold at ANA August 2010. 1. PCGS 67 secure, Emery-Nichols, Thaine Price, John Hugon, was NGC 67, now also CAC'd. 1. PCGS 67, Norweb, now Shireman, not yet submitted to secure. 4. PCGS 66, Eliasberg, Dale Friend collection.
If you go to CoinFacts you will see great images of most of these coins, but the Norweb/Shireman coin is not yet imaged in at that site.
At one time David Akers owned all three coins that are now graded MS67, WOW!
It will be interesting to see how much the Emery-Nichols coin sells for at auction at FUN. There are some great coins coming up for sale at FUN, not just the barber coins we love. >>
This post is an example of the amazing information that is shared here on the forum and on this thread. Thank you, Peter for sharing and best of success with the Petersen XF's as well.
Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
It has been a while since Raven or others assembling VG sets have posted, so I 'll post an old picture or two to keep this thread from getting to 'top' heavy in AU and MS beauties!
notice how an F12 snuck in at 13d, then F18 at 1912 for alittle bit over VG prices on ebaY (mis-listings, low traffic), then the VF below, and next thing you know, it's like crack LOL
Happy New Year!
Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
The 1909-S Dime you imaged is one BEAR of a date; great pick up !! I think the image isn't all that bad - but you know what the coin looks like in hand.
The 1907-S Quarter does seem somewhat muted - and I can't see the OBV scratch either - so I have to agree that they did seem harsh on grading this coin. Again, with out the coin in hand, its difficult to pass judgement.
Loving the 1904 Dime [ nice friend who lent you the coin ] - clearly MS - and I won't guess the grade - but it is a sweet coin.
Your new camera lens and photo stand look like they are getting a work out !! Remember, practice makes perfect. Keep at it.
Barberphiles, Lots of low hanging fruit for mid-grade Barber Halves at Heritage right now...if you want to capitalize on some of the best XF-45's to hit the market, you need to check out the FUN Auction at Heritage. I'm really amazed at some of the low bids right now and hope (for the sake of us all) they are pushed up...would hate to see my own collection devalued...so gather your dollars and cents and bid! I'm also surprised at some of the high bids for other very desirables...but it's all good...and is a testament to Craig's keen eye on mid-grade Barber Halves!
<< <i>Barberphiles, Lots of low hanging fruit for mid-grade Barber Halves at Heritage right now...if you want to capitalize on some of the best XF-45's to hit the market, you need to check out the FUN Auction at Heritage. I'm really amazed at some of the low bids right now and hope (for the sake of us all) they are pushed up...would hate to see my own collection devalued...so gather your dollars and cents and bid! I'm also surprised at some of the high bids for other very desirables...but it's all good...and is a testament to Craig's keen eye on mid-grade Barber Halves! >>
No offense meant to Craig, because it was a hell of an accomplishment to get 73 different dates with the same grade on each slab ticket... but if we're being honest, some of those coins are not 45s. Some are 50s in lesser plastic. Some are 40s in higher plastic (there are one or two that looked like nice 35s to me... but then again, I tend to grade based on historical and technical grading, not market grading). Most are attractive. Some are not-so-attractive. Some look lustrous. Some look "un"-lustrous. But the variety of looks in that set means that there is something there to please just about everyone's preference, so I'll be giving the set a nice in-person look-over next week to see if my opinions change with the coins in hand. I do know that there are several nice pieces that have definitely caught my eye.
I couldn't agree with you more. Many of the 42.5's and the 47.5's that are contained in the set are well known by me - as I commented on them with Criag as he was building the set.
There are some AU 50's and there are a few XF 40's as well. The last coin found to complete the set was the 1905-P and that coin originated in an NGC 50 holder.
I have my favorites in the set - and I am sure they will go for a very tidy sum. I am not bidding on any of the mid range Barber Halves - rest assured - I am going to be no competition.
Have at it Boys and Girls - have fun !!!
Good Luck, Peter !!
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Cratylus, Good point...however, the bottom line is...it's all in the eye of the beholder...good luck to all at the FUN...there are many beautiful coins in this collection that require a second look...many that are presently under-bidded.
<< <i>Barberphiles, Lots of low hanging fruit for mid-grade Barber Halves at Heritage right now...if you want to capitalize on some of the best XF-45's to hit the market, you need to check out the FUN Auction at Heritage. I'm really amazed at some of the low bids right now and hope (for the sake of us all) they are pushed up...would hate to see my own collection devalued...so gather your dollars and cents and bid! I'm also surprised at some of the high bids for other very desirables...but it's all good...and is a testament to Craig's keen eye on mid-grade Barber Halves! >>
There is still nine days remaining. Prices will be rising considerably for many.
Responding to the last three Posts regarding the XF 45 set at Heritage; I know the bids have not really started yet. The first few are always slow in posting to anywhere near the end result will be. [ Fear not, Peter.]
Collectors have yet to throw in the "big bids" yet. Soon, we'll all have a lesson in Barber Half Economics.
I'll have a few odds and ends at Glenn's table - as a "Show & Tell " - so - please come on over and say Hello !!
[ Table 643 !! ] Chugum - I expect to see you too !!
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<< <i>I have it under good authority that the upcoming Heritage FUN sale contains a 1904-S Half in an NGC 67 Holder - which was recently crossed to a PCGS 67 with a CAC Green Bean.
I wonder how many other NGC graded high end Halves were sent in to PCGS ? Does that mean that the coins remaining in NGC holders couldn't cross to PCGS in the same grade ? ... "Inquiring Minds Want To Know". >>
Well, it seems as if only the 1904-S crossed - and my pockets are not that deep. What a fantastic coin. POP Three - Steve Duckor's coin - Peter Shireman's coin and now this PCGS 67. [ Imagine - owning all three at the same time... talk about DEEP pockets !! ]
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I agree completely with Cratylus, a lot of different looks for the same grade of XF45, but still an amazing accomplishment! The really tough dates will go crazy the final few days of the Heritage auction.
I'd like to hear opinions on the merits of assembling a specific grade PCGS registry set vs. for example an XF/AU SET.
I'm bringing my little red wagon, my piggy bank, my debit card and all those coffee cans I've been burying in the back yard for the last 10 years...and my wife if she'll go and allow me to drool over all the possibilities! It's going to be a riot and a lot of fun...hope to see a lot of you there!
BTW Lucanus, welcome! I just noticed your first post! Welcome to the domicile of "learned" Barberphiles...which excludes me...I'm still an amateur but eagerly learning.
Wow, that's a lot of mid-grade Barbers coming to market. I fear it will curb the prices of a market already seeing a cooling. I believe bargains may be had, especially the easier to find dates. I never recall seeing so many mid-grades for sale at one time! It blows my mind and probably my pocketbook on a couple I have my heart set on!!
The keys and the semi keys will set records if the coin is correctly graded. I am eyeing just one coin... perfect XF 45 ... a key date and I expect it to reach AU 58 money !!
I'm not bidding on any of the mid range Halves - but a number of my friends are. There could be a blood bath on a few of them.
The common dates will hold their own but won't set any records. This will be an interesting auction - especially since most of the XF 45 Halves are on the Internet only auction. I believe only two XF 45 Halves are selling on a floor auction [ the 1897-O and the 1904-S ] .
Hope you have Deep Pockets for those two.
Happy New Year !!
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I will be viewing all of the 45s in person this coming Wednesday and I will post my thoughts/observations on some of the more memorable coins for those of you who can't attend but might be bidding on them.
As promised, here are some observations on a few of the tougher midgrade coins in the Heritage auction. Nothing revelatory here - just a few passing thoughts on a few coins that some of you might like to own.
Lot# 3848 - 1897-O - Definitely not an XF45 like the PCGS slab claims. Really a 40 (borderline 35) that appears to have had its centers wiped and retoned. Some really beautiful teal rim toning enhances the look of it.
Lot# 3854 - 1904-S - I'd call it a lustrous 42.5 that may have been wiped at some point in its distant past. Some faint beige toning on the periphery. Nice piece, but in my opinion not nice enough to warrant a hugely strong bid. I've seen nicer examples of this date in 40 slabs.
Lot# 11074 - 1895-S - The toning on this piece is just eye-popping. The pics do NOT do this coin justice. There are some hairlines though, so the coin may have been wiped. Nonetheless, the new owner should be thrilled with this piece.
Lot# 11077 - 1896-O - Oh My F-in God! This coin is without question the showstopper of the entire set, and it's also one of the toughest dates to locate in problem-free mid-grades. My jaw literally fell open when I saw this one. Seriously, I was stupefied at how gorgeous this coin is. It's much too lustrous for my tastes, but the winner of this lot (who will have to pay HEAVILY to get it) is going to LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this coin! Cash in your 401(k) for this beaut because you simply won't find a nicer 45 example of this date... EVER!
Lot# 11088 - 1898-O - Great eye-appeal on this one, the pics totally do NOT do this coin justice. Faint rose tinged. Very nice!
Lot# 11146 - 1909-O - A dipped and retoned 40, not a 45 like the slab ticket claims. I would personally hold out for a nicer piece, but on the other hand this date has become increasingly rare in mid-grades thanks to the toughness of its counterpart in the quarter series.
Cratylus, Thank you very much for your survey results...that 96-O looks like it's going to be a real barn-burner! Guys and gals get your bids ready...looks like a shootout! Did you get a chance to look at the 07-S? That coin from all appearances also looked like a beauty...with the natural tone it looked extremely desirable. The 08-S and 92-O seemed to be lagging behind in interest...very disireable coins that are not always available. Sorry to see the 04-S was lacking...but again, it's all in the eye of the buyer. Guess we'll find out when the "big boys" lay down their cards.
I've spoken with Mike about the 96-O and I know that he liked it, and generally if Mike likes a Barber, it's a very nice coin however it's also too flashy for me, I like crusty and dirty.
I will reserve my comments until after the sale but a few of the coins in that set that I thought I might want to pursue I am off of. I am not bidding on any of them.
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Still lots of low hanging fruit out there at the FUN auction for mid-grade Barber Halves. So many delectable coins...too little juice...I'm sure the "big guns" are coming. The 10-S, 08-S, 07-S, 02-S x 2, 01-S, 92-O, and 93-S look very desirable...as well as many of the commons...come on guys, get your bids in...you won't see this many coins like this offered again in the near future.
I see the 1907-S half now has a PCGS Pop of 14 in XF45! When I had my ex slabbed 3 years ago there were only 5, I think. What Happened? And the 08-S has 13, as does the 01-S. Odd. The 95-S, 96-O, 96-S, 97-O, 97-S, 99-O, 01-O, 02-S and 05-P, still look scarce, as well as some of those INTERESTING later "S" mints that everybody overlooks: 09, 10, 11, and 13.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
<< <i>Cratylus, Did you get a chance to look at the 07-S? That coin from all appearances also looked like a beauty...with the natural tone it looked extremely desirable. >>
The 07-S is a very nice coin. It has that dirty look I generally like, but it also has some luster left underneath the patina that the patina doesn't quite subdue as much as I would personally like. Moreover, I have an XF40 that I am totally happy with. The one I own has close to the exact look that I like so it doesn't make sense FOR ME to bid on and potentially pay steeply for a coin with a 5 point bump in grade that I am not completely happy with.
<< <i>Busy on the first day - sold off a duplicate 1901-S in 50 and a 1905-O in XF 40.
Thanks again Cary. >>
No, Mike, I thank YOU!
The 05-O was an upgrade for me and it's absolutely the nicest, most original mid-grade example of that date I've seen in 13 years of collecting nothing but Barbers. I am thrilled to own this coin!
The 01-S... I disagree with PCGS on the grade of the coin as I think most Barber collectors would if they we're grading it objectively. In my opinion it is an XF45 minus. However, I can't imagine a nicer, more original mid-grade 01-S in existence. It is THAT nice!
Given the rarity of both coins in true XF range and the absolutely original crustiness and amazing eye-appeal, I was happy to pay Mike's asking price on both coins with no haggling whatsoever.
TOOOOOO many coins to go unnoticed...many of the XF-45 coins in the FUN Auction are coming around to expected sales prices...however, some are not...I hope everyone has a chance to benefit from this opportunity. This is a very rare window to upgrade your collection...have fun and I wish everyone the best of luck! GET YOUR BIDS IN!!
Very interesting results last night for XF45 barbers in the Heritage auction. Really tough dates and choice original coins were the best performers, but overall results were very impressive. There were 18 or 20 dipped, awful looking headlights in the auction that I'm surprised were ever certified, but with the exception of a few dates- 99, 00-S, 06-D, and 07-D, all went for strong prices well over PCGS retail. I know the preceding four coins I listed are common dates and collectors can be choosy with those dates, but how does a disaster of a coin like the 97-S bring $2,185? One of my favorite coins in the auction was the 02-O, but $1,610? Also the 93 at $805. Amazing results and congratulations to the consignor!!
So how did everyone do at FUN? I picked up the 1898 and 1906 -D in XF 45. ........also got these off Ebay. The pics on the 03-S doesn't show the luster. By far the best looking Barber I have ever had. I guess I'm a hoarder now on the 93-S's, its an OCD thing I guess. Ken
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Liberty Head Nickels [ original set from my
Grandfather ] - my PCGS rejected Barber Dimes
[now holdered by NGC -"Details Graded" ] - and
four of my AU 58 Barber Halves. [ Plus a few odds
and ends of no real consequence here ].
I need to transfer the images to my Photobucket account;
I still can't figure out how to use BluCCphotos site as a Host
Site. Its all above me, believe me.
Here's a sampling [ this is the only Dime to get a numerical grade ]:
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the 1898 Nickel - in PCGS 58 was a
pocket change find by my Grandfather.
The 1911 Nickel - also in a PCGS 58
holder - is a newp from Glenn Holsonbake.
The images were sent to me on CD and I
can't rotate them on my lap top. The rotation
icon on the bottom of my screen is "grey'd out "
and won't allow me to straighten the images out.
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Looks pretty darn nice to me.
I'm still scratching my head on most of the dozen coins rejected by PCGS
as being cleaned. Only the 1908-O Dime was a mistake-purchase on my
part. I bought it sight unseen years ago on a Teletrade telephone auction
and it was in an Old Cachet ANACS holder - as an AU 58. I was fairly new
to collecting AU Barber Dimes - and I assumed the coin was just darkly toned.
PCGS bagged it - and NGC placed it in a Details Graded Holder. Environmental
damage - AU Details.
I saw nothing wrong with the 02-P either - its a spectacular looking coin.
I'll post other images later tonight when I have the chance.
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Ken
http://www.ebay.com/sch/rs8199/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
I don't subscribe to PCGS Coin Facts so I can't vouch for any of the rarity ratings posted there. As for BCCS, they seem to have a fairly good handle on rarity ratings...but in the end, it all depends on the collector, finances, availability, and demand. There are many coins that are underrated as many on these boards can attest to...if you look at the population reports, some of these coins only come around every couple of years. The 04-S is overrated IMHO as well as some other "key dates"...I personally think the 02-S, 05-O, and many others are as rare as the 04-S. It's all in what you're looking for, your pocketbook, and your patience. I recall many avid collectors yearning for such prevalent dates as an 05-P or a 94-O...although they are not considered rare. Again, it's all about finances, demand, and availability.
Thus, CoinFacts has a lot of information about the relatively limited number of high-end mint state gem coins, and less about lower grade mint state coins and circulated issues. Pricing information is always problematic, and it is through auction records that one can obtain some of the most recent and accurate values, and where it is possible, CoinFacts has this information incorporated into their pricing. Also, the PCGS site has direct connections to a large body of auction records, some going back as far as 50-60 years or even more. The focus is generally on the mint state coins, but more information is generated about circulated material as such becomes available, and I have seen more and more lower grade barber halves being graded by PCGS and for sale in a number of venues including auctions, web sites, and eBay. We will be able to see more information as time goes on. For instance, the amazing complete PCGS-graded EF45 set that Craig Peterson put together is completely imaged throughout the listings in CoinFacts, but the number of Barber halves that have been certified in EF45 condition is very limited, and sales of such coins are not well documented. This particular grade will get a lot of new information as the Craig's former set is being sold at auction in two weeks at the FUN sale, by Heritage. It will be interesting to see how the prices generated in this sale are incorporated into the price structure of CoinFacts. All told, there are nearly 80 EF45 PCGS-graded Barber halves in this sale which is a significant percentage of all EF45 coins graded by PCGS.
I will continue to watch and enjoy the CoinFacts site. I may even provide additional content, as I was able to for the micro O half. Finding the time to do such writing is always my biggest issue, but I generally enjoy doing so. It is what makes this hobby so enjoyable for me.
<< <i>Interesting development on the top-end 04-S halves. Until very recently, the condition census had the top three 1904-S barber halves as two PCGS-graded and one NGC-graded. All three are now PCGS-graded and have wonderful pedigrees.
Here's the known top four coins with abbreviated pedigrees:
1. PCGS 67 secure, James Stack, Dr. Steve Duckor, sold at ANA August 2010.
1. PCGS 67 secure, Emery-Nichols, Thaine Price, John Hugon, was NGC 67, now also CAC'd.
1. PCGS 67, Norweb, now Shireman, not yet submitted to secure.
4. PCGS 66, Eliasberg, Dale Friend collection.
If you go to CoinFacts you will see great images of most of these coins, but the Norweb/Shireman coin is not yet imaged in at that site.
At one time David Akers owned all three coins that are now graded MS67, WOW!
It will be interesting to see how much the Emery-Nichols coin sells for at auction at FUN. There are some great coins coming up for sale at FUN, not just the barber coins we love. >>
This post is an example of the amazing information that is shared here on the forum and on this thread. Thank you, Peter for sharing and best of success with the Petersen XF's as well.
notice how an F12 snuck in at 13d, then F18 at 1912 for alittle bit over VG prices on ebaY (mis-listings, low traffic), then the VF below, and next thing you know, it's like crack LOL
Happy New Year!
The 1909-S Dime you imaged is one BEAR of a date; great pick up !!
I think the image isn't all that bad - but you know what the coin looks like in hand.
The 1907-S Quarter does seem somewhat muted - and I can't see the OBV scratch
either - so I have to agree that they did seem harsh on grading this coin. Again, with
out the coin in hand, its difficult to pass judgement.
Loving the 1904 Dime [ nice friend who lent you the coin ] - clearly MS - and I won't
guess the grade - but it is a sweet coin.
Your new camera lens and photo stand look like they are getting a work out !!
Remember, practice makes perfect. Keep at it.
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NEWP: For the 1891 Mint Set:
PCGS MS 64
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Two more loaners tonight a 1898-O PCGS 64, and a 1899-S NGC 64
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Lots of low hanging fruit for mid-grade Barber Halves at Heritage right now...if you want to capitalize on some of the best XF-45's to hit the market, you need to check out the FUN Auction at Heritage. I'm really amazed at some of the low bids right now and hope (for the sake of us all) they are pushed up...would hate to see my own collection devalued...so gather your dollars and cents and bid! I'm also surprised at some of the high bids for other very desirables...but it's all good...and is a testament to Craig's keen eye on mid-grade Barber Halves!
<< <i>Barberphiles,
Lots of low hanging fruit for mid-grade Barber Halves at Heritage right now...if you want to capitalize on some of the best XF-45's to hit the market, you need to check out the FUN Auction at Heritage. I'm really amazed at some of the low bids right now and hope (for the sake of us all) they are pushed up...would hate to see my own collection devalued...so gather your dollars and cents and bid! I'm also surprised at some of the high bids for other very desirables...but it's all good...and is a testament to Craig's keen eye on mid-grade Barber Halves!
No offense meant to Craig, because it was a hell of an accomplishment to get 73 different dates with the same grade on each slab ticket... but if we're being honest, some of those coins are not 45s. Some are 50s in lesser plastic. Some are 40s in higher plastic (there are one or two that looked like nice 35s to me... but then again, I tend to grade based on historical and technical grading, not market grading). Most are attractive. Some are not-so-attractive. Some look lustrous. Some look "un"-lustrous. But the variety of looks in that set means that there is something there to please just about everyone's preference, so I'll be giving the set a nice in-person look-over next week to see if my opinions change with the coins in hand. I do know that there are several nice pieces that have definitely caught my eye.
Cratylus,
I couldn't agree with you more.
Many of the 42.5's and the 47.5's
that are contained in the set are well
known by me - as I commented on them
with Criag as he was building the set.
There are some AU 50's and there are
a few XF 40's as well. The last coin found
to complete the set was the 1905-P and
that coin originated in an NGC 50 holder.
I have my favorites in the set - and I am
sure they will go for a very tidy sum. I am
not bidding on any of the mid range Barber
Halves - rest assured - I am going to be no
competition.
Have at it Boys and Girls - have fun !!!
Good Luck, Peter !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Good point...however, the bottom line is...it's all in the eye of the beholder...good luck to all at the FUN...there are many beautiful coins in this collection that require a second look...many that are presently under-bidded.
<< <i>Barberphiles,
Lots of low hanging fruit for mid-grade Barber Halves at Heritage right now...if you want to capitalize on some of the best XF-45's to hit the market, you need to check out the FUN Auction at Heritage. I'm really amazed at some of the low bids right now and hope (for the sake of us all) they are pushed up...would hate to see my own collection devalued...so gather your dollars and cents and bid! I'm also surprised at some of the high bids for other very desirables...but it's all good...and is a testament to Craig's keen eye on mid-grade Barber Halves!
There is still nine days remaining. Prices will be rising considerably for many.
I can never say no to a pretty girl...
I fell in love on first sight - even though I have a great looking AU 58 - this one just called to me.
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Responding to the last three Posts regarding the XF 45 set at Heritage;
I know the bids have not really started yet. The first few are always slow
in posting to anywhere near the end result will be. [ Fear not, Peter.]
Collectors have yet to throw in the "big bids" yet. Soon, we'll all have a
lesson in Barber Half Economics.
I'll have a few odds and ends at Glenn's table - as a "Show & Tell " - so -
please come on over and say Hello !!
[ Table 643 !! ] Chugum - I expect to see you too !!
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<< <i>I have it under good authority that the upcoming Heritage FUN sale contains
a 1904-S Half in an NGC 67 Holder - which was recently crossed to
a PCGS 67 with a CAC Green Bean.
I wonder how many other NGC graded high end Halves were sent in to PCGS ?
Does that mean that the coins remaining in NGC holders couldn't cross to PCGS
in the same grade ? ... "Inquiring Minds Want To Know". >>
Well, it seems as if only the 1904-S crossed - and my pockets are not that deep.
What a fantastic coin. POP Three - Steve Duckor's coin - Peter Shireman's coin and
now this PCGS 67. [ Imagine - owning all three at the same time... talk about DEEP
pockets !! ]
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in a down turned market.
The NGC 67/ PCGS 67 sold for $92K twelve years ago.
Wouldn't surprise me to see $ 150K.
{ although Janice and Pete want to see it hit $200K !! }
Seems as if the market is opening up a bit.
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<< <i>My guess is a bit more than the Duckor coin.
Seems as if the market is opening up a bit. >>
So, in other words, my debit card won't suffice and I should plan on bringing my piggy bank to the auction.
Hey Broadstruck... show us YOUR Piggybank !!!
Cary - sell the Farm.
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I'd like to hear opinions on the merits of assembling a specific grade PCGS registry set vs. for example an XF/AU SET.
New to the Mega Barber Thread!
Lucanus
Welcome - Lucanus -
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<< <i>Hey Broadstruck... show us YOUR Piggybank !!!
Cary - sell the Farm. >>
Broadstruck's piggy bank:
My piggy bank:
Broadstruck's famous skinny piggy is well known here !!
Looks like you're selling the Farm, huh ?
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Chris,
The keys and the semi keys will set records
if the coin is correctly graded. I am eyeing
just one coin... perfect XF 45 ... a key date
and I expect it to reach AU 58 money !!
I'm not bidding on any of the mid range
Halves - but a number of my friends are.
There could be a blood bath on a few of them.
The common dates will hold their own but
won't set any records. This will be an interesting
auction - especially since most of the XF 45
Halves are on the Internet only auction. I believe
only two XF 45 Halves are selling on a floor auction
[ the 1897-O and the 1904-S ] .
Hope you have Deep Pockets for those two.
Happy New Year !!
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Lot# 3848 - 1897-O - Definitely not an XF45 like the PCGS slab claims. Really a 40 (borderline 35) that appears to have had its centers wiped and retoned. Some really beautiful teal rim toning enhances the look of it.
Lot# 3854 - 1904-S - I'd call it a lustrous 42.5 that may have been wiped at some point in its distant past. Some faint beige toning on the periphery. Nice piece, but in my opinion not nice enough to warrant a hugely strong bid. I've seen nicer examples of this date in 40 slabs.
Lot# 11074 - 1895-S - The toning on this piece is just eye-popping. The pics do NOT do this coin justice. There are some hairlines though, so the coin may have been wiped. Nonetheless, the new owner should be thrilled with this piece.
Lot# 11077 - 1896-O - Oh My F-in God! This coin is without question the showstopper of the entire set, and it's also one of the toughest dates to locate in problem-free mid-grades. My jaw literally fell open when I saw this one. Seriously, I was stupefied at how gorgeous this coin is. It's much too lustrous for my tastes, but the winner of this lot (who will have to pay HEAVILY to get it) is going to LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this coin! Cash in your 401(k) for this beaut because you simply won't find a nicer 45 example of this date... EVER!
Lot# 11088 - 1898-O - Great eye-appeal on this one, the pics totally do NOT do this coin justice. Faint rose tinged. Very nice!
Lot# 11146 - 1909-O - A dipped and retoned 40, not a 45 like the slab ticket claims. I would personally hold out for a nicer piece, but on the other hand this date has become increasingly rare in mid-grades thanks to the toughness of its counterpart in the quarter series.
Thank you very much for your survey results...that 96-O looks like it's going to be a real barn-burner! Guys and gals get your bids ready...looks like a shootout! Did you get a chance to look at the 07-S? That coin from all appearances also looked like a beauty...with the natural tone it looked extremely desirable. The 08-S and 92-O seemed to be lagging behind in interest...very disireable coins that are not always available. Sorry to see the 04-S was lacking...but again, it's all in the eye of the buyer. Guess we'll find out when the "big boys" lay down their cards.
I will reserve my comments until after the sale but a few of the coins in that set that I thought I might want to pursue I am off of. I am not bidding on any of them.
we bought the whole set, so you boys can
go home now.
Busy on the first day - sold off a duplicate
1901-S in 50 and a 1905-O in XF 40.
Thanks again Cary.
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<< <i>Glenn and I worked out a deal with Peter;
we bought the whole set, so you boys can
go home now.
Busy on the first day - sold off a duplicate
1901-S in 50 and a 1905-O in XF 40.
Thanks again Cary. >>
Your 01-S Stickered today
Odd.
The 95-S, 96-O, 96-S, 97-O, 97-S, 99-O, 01-O, 02-S and 05-P, still look scarce, as well as some of those INTERESTING
<< <i>Cratylus,
Did you get a chance to look at the 07-S? That coin from all appearances also looked like a beauty...with the natural tone it looked extremely desirable. >>
The 07-S is a very nice coin. It has that dirty look I generally like, but it also has some luster left underneath the patina that the patina doesn't quite subdue as much as I would personally like. Moreover, I have an XF40 that I am totally happy with. The one I own has close to the exact look that I like so it doesn't make sense FOR ME to bid on and potentially pay steeply for a coin with a 5 point bump in grade that I am not completely happy with.
<< <i>Busy on the first day - sold off a duplicate
1901-S in 50 and a 1905-O in XF 40.
Thanks again Cary. >>
No, Mike, I thank YOU!
The 05-O was an upgrade for me and it's absolutely the nicest, most original mid-grade example of that date I've seen in 13 years of collecting nothing but Barbers. I am thrilled to own this coin!
The 01-S... I disagree with PCGS on the grade of the coin as I think most Barber collectors would if they we're grading it objectively. In my opinion it is an XF45 minus. However, I can't imagine a nicer, more original mid-grade 01-S in existence. It is THAT nice!
Given the rarity of both coins in true XF range and the absolutely original crustiness and amazing eye-appeal, I was happy to pay Mike's asking price on both coins with no haggling whatsoever.
Doug