I wanted to share these three halves out of my set that have PL surfaces. The 1909-S would easily recieve a PL designation from NGC and was formerly owned by Dr. Pete and now me (PCGS64). I am pretty certain the 1896-O would also (PCGS63), the 1892-S is somewhat more marginal but the surfaces do have PL characteristics (PCGS64). It's not often you run across PL surfaces but on occassion one does turn up. They are hard to resist when you do find one and well worth picking up.
Love those PL's. I estimate no more than 1/4 to 1/2 % of all mint state barber halves will have well-developed PL surfaces. At one time I had something like 5-6 of them, some in NGC PL holders and some in PCGS holders. PCGS has never designated PL on barbers.
The 09-S that Glenn has is one of my all-time favorites, and though replaced by a splendid MS 67 in my registry set, my former coin is one of my earliest acquisitons and I bought it raw in a 20th century type set. One of my first submissions to PCGS and it is a solid MS 64.
Currently, my 1894-O is my only strong PL coin, but the 12-D has some PL characteristic. I used to have two MS 64 1900-O's that both had great PL surfaces, but not as nice as Steve Duckor's Norweb MS 66 example.
Again, I can't emphasize how scarce PL barber coins are and they are very appealing to me, too.
Beautiful coins........I love the 96-O, it's one of my favorite dates. Dr. Pete's right, you don't see to many Barber's with PL surfaces. I recently started adding some seated material to my collection and you see more PL surfaces on seated coins than you do the Barbers.
Thanks for the kind words. These 3 are among my favorites as well just because as you state Dr. Pete PL Barbers are very rare. Dan, I have seen some beautiful seated PL coins as well and they are very hard to resist.
I have inquired a couple of times to PCGS about a PL designation the same as NGC and so far not happening. I should think one day PCGS will step up on other series designating PL on MS coins besides Morgans. Given the rarity of PL surfaces on other series, these coins in my view should be provided a PL designation. This is one area where NGC is definitely ahead.
Maybe someday as when I asked Ron about it at Denver he agreed. But agreement and implementation as we know are different things. In the meantime if I see a nice PL Barber Half I am sure interested, regardless of what the holder says.
Dan, I would love to see pics of any of your PL seated coins.
<< <i>Dan, I would love to see pics of any of your PL seated coins. >>
Glenn...so would I.
I have a couple of seated halves with PL surfaces (nothing special, common date stuff in AU grades). My scanner will never pick up the PL surfaces on the coins, so until I start using a digital camera, or buy from a dealer, where I can use their images, it's just not possible right now.
<< <i>Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I'm holding off showing any 1915 & 1916 Barbers until the end of this Thread. --- whenever that is - who knows !!
I was snooping at Heritage's Auction Archeives, looking at prices realized and I stumbled accross something very interesting.
The first coin posted below was sold on 11-7-2005. The second coin was sold on 4-10-2006.
Beautiful PL halves...I have only seen a few in my lifetime and your's are top shelf
As Dan mentioned, Seated Halves have more PL coins than most other series. So many of these are confused with Proofs...except for the rims, it would be hard to tell them apart.
Here's the newest Nickel for my 1898 MS Date Set...
which is a nice addition to its sister coin ... the 1898 PR ...
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Just won this coin on Ebay thru Mike Flannagan...nice enough coin, IMHO. Its going to look very nice with the other raw XF45-AU53 Barber Halves in that album.
I just received the XF 40 1905-O today [ posted earlier ] and its a keeper. Thanks, Wilbur !!
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Regarding this thread, I think we should let it expire. It's past it's useful life and only a few of us Barber nuts visit it any more. We need to start more general purpose Barber threads so the non-nuts can see what they're missing. My next postings of new images will be in new threads.
Dr. Pete, MFH, this thread should never die...newbies like me will work to keep it alive. I have many new coins to share...some BB'd...some certified. Just last night I was reading about subjective grading...what a trip. Don S had a magnificient expose on subjective grading...I'm glad my cardiologist is objective...at least I think he is! Don, you can pipe in here anytime you want. Keep this line going...even though I haven't contributed lately, I still have a lot of Barbers to throw up...don't let it die...keep it going! More images coming!! Regards to all, Dave
Here is a link to my newest addition from Harry Laibstain, a really neat original 1899-S with original toning and PL surfaces underneath although the toning masks that a great deal as does my photographic skills. Really excited about this addition.
Dan... I remember that 1896-O ... its a beauty. Lovely toning too.
Glenn...Nice 1899-S...looks MS65...okay, okay, I peeked. Seriously, that's a great coin. Glad you didn't have the imaged photoshopped - I was a bit embarrassed about the 1913-S Thread.
Yeah, I know, I said I'd let this thread die off...its just so darn addicting !
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You're right, the 1898 liberty head nickel is a beauty. I like the idea of a type set - using a specific year - that has a special meaning to you. From what I remember........it was one of your grandparent's birth year.
Dave,
I'm looking forward to seeing your new quarter (Barber I presume, since you're posting on this thread). Any luck with the seated quarters?
Very nice quarter, Dave. I'm still stuck on dirty ol' VF 50c pieces, so no competition on the MS quarters from here. This one is from the other thread and most recent addition from ebaY. New dates are coming rather slowly now, but that's OK.
Don
Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
As long as new posts are still being added, I'll add one of my own. Here's a recent acquisition, which I haven't received yet. It's a 1908-P Barber half, graded by PCGS, AU-58. I found the 1908-P a little tougher to find than what you might expect. The coin looks to have pretty good detail, with a clean cheek and fields. I suspect that the coin may have been dipped at some point in time, but I'll get a better idea when I have the coin in hand. Considering what I paid for the coin (low end) and what certified AU Barber halves are currently going for, I can always sell the coin for a little profit or use it for trade bait.
I just purchased a 1915-S in PCGS 66 for my set. This date is impossible in MS 66. Only 5 with two better, and only Dale Friend has one other 66 that I know about. I am so glad I found the coin.
Very cool Dr. Pete. Sounds like a tough one. I just worked out a deal with Dave Coates for the 1894-O XF45. Only two more to go before I am 100% done. I just might pocket piece my 1905-P AU50 and still need to find a nice 1897-S in XF45. My XF40 is oh so close.
Congratulations Dr. Pete and Craig. I remember reading somewhere about the 15-S being real tough in the gem grades, great pickup. 2 to go for the Craigster......pocket piece for the 05-P, sounds good.
I bought this coin recently. It's in an old fatty NGC holder as an XF45, but this is without a doubt a 53, IMO... still has a good amount of luster at the rims, rub is fairly light and kind of hard to notice, and it's got some nice color to it...
I just can't believe that NGC is so far out of the loop when it grades this series...usually they are very optomistic with their grades. Most AU 58's are really 55's. Most 55's are AU 50- 53.
This grade-flation seems to carry thru on most of their assigned grades.
This coin is from its images, is at least an AU 53.
Congrats Peter, Dan and Craig on your NEWPS.
Sorry, nothing new here...I'm still on vacation...and won't be back home for another two weeks.
Glad to see this thread hasn't died.
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Gorgeous quarter. Don, love the look on that 1914-P. Dan, I found the 10-S very difficult to find. Love your example.
I note a new member on the Registry who has an 1897-S in XF45. I've sent the person an email. Does anyone know who is "Barry's Barber Halves"? I'd like to PM them as well. This person is off to a ncie start with lots of keys in place. I hope he/she is able to put up pics.
If anyone can help me out with making this trade, there is a nice Barber Half with your name on it from me for your efforts.
This would then leave me with just the 05-P in which I would pocket piece my AU50 for a little bit.
Brandon, Congrats on the new 1893-s, nice upgrade and that coin looks sweet!!
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Congratulations on a great pickup, one of the tougher dates in XF/AU. I was eyeballing the same coin on DLRC's website, but decided my 93-S would suffice for now. I'm glad to see a fellow board member snag it.
RYK,
Beautiful 1903 Barber quarter......must be one of Dale's beauties.
Greetings everyone, I submitted five crossovers a few weeks back and just got notified that my NGC XF-45 1892-O just got BB'd. Here's a pic...can you figure out why PCGS refuses to slab it? Hopefully the image will post here!
Looks great XF45 detail. Probably a little close to XF43/44 actually. What did it get BB'ed for? There is a bigger rim ding on the reverse at 12:00. Was it maybe cleaned years ago and received some album toning?
Dan & Brandon-- nice AU coinage-- I bet MFH would be drooling over that 93s.
Dave -- I think Craig is right about the old cleaning on the 92o.
I posted the 1914 as someone on another forum thread said VF20s are for losers or something like that
Don
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Just got back from a trip across the pond to England, Belgium and the Netherlands. A nice break from everything so now I will see how jet lagged I am.
I hope to be posting a newp soon maybe by the end of the week. I will get a pic as soon as it is finalized.
Glenn
Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
I wanted to share these three halves out of my set that have PL surfaces. The 1909-S would easily recieve a PL designation from NGC and was formerly owned by Dr. Pete and now me (PCGS64). I am pretty certain the 1896-O would also (PCGS63), the 1892-S is somewhat more marginal but the surfaces do have PL characteristics (PCGS64). It's not often you run across PL surfaces but on occassion one does turn up. They are hard to resist when you do find one and well worth picking up.
Glenn
Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
Love those PL's. I estimate no more than 1/4 to 1/2 % of all mint state barber halves will have well-developed PL surfaces. At one time I had something like 5-6 of them, some in NGC PL holders and some in PCGS holders. PCGS has never designated PL on barbers.
The 09-S that Glenn has is one of my all-time favorites, and though replaced by a splendid MS 67 in my registry set, my former coin is one of my earliest acquisitons and I bought it raw in a 20th century type set. One of my first submissions to PCGS and it is a solid MS 64.
Currently, my 1894-O is my only strong PL coin, but the 12-D has some PL characteristic. I used to have two MS 64 1900-O's that both had great PL surfaces, but not as nice as Steve Duckor's Norweb MS 66 example.
Again, I can't emphasize how scarce PL barber coins are and they are very appealing to me, too.
Beautiful coins........I love the 96-O, it's one of my favorite dates. Dr. Pete's right, you don't see to many Barber's with PL surfaces. I recently started adding some seated material to my collection and you see more PL surfaces on seated coins than you do the Barbers.
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Thanks for the kind words. These 3 are among my favorites as well just because as you state Dr. Pete PL Barbers are very rare. Dan, I have seen some beautiful seated PL coins as well and they are very hard to resist.
I have inquired a couple of times to PCGS about a PL designation the same as NGC and so far not happening. I should think one day PCGS will step up on other series designating PL on MS coins besides Morgans. Given the rarity of PL surfaces on other series, these coins in my view should be provided a PL designation. This is one area where NGC is definitely ahead.
Maybe someday as when I asked Ron about it at Denver he agreed. But agreement and implementation as we know are different things. In the meantime if I see a nice PL Barber Half I am sure interested, regardless of what the holder says.
Dan, I would love to see pics of any of your PL seated coins.
Glenn
Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
<< <i>Dan, I would love to see pics of any of your PL seated coins. >>
Glenn...so would I.
I have a couple of seated halves with PL surfaces (nothing special, common date stuff in AU grades). My scanner will never pick up the PL surfaces on the coins, so until I start using a digital camera, or buy from a dealer, where I can use their images, it's just not possible right now.
Connor Numismatics Website
<< <i>Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I'm holding off showing any 1915 & 1916
Barbers until the end of this Thread. --- whenever that is - who knows !!
I was snooping at Heritage's Auction Archeives, looking at prices realized
and I stumbled accross something very interesting.
The first coin posted below was sold on 11-7-2005.
The second coin was sold on 4-10-2006.
I guess there's hope for some of my BB halves...
Price Realized for the above coin : $253.00
Price Realized on the above coin...$460.00 !!!
Glenn,
Beautiful PL halves...I have only seen a few in my lifetime and your's are top shelf
As Dan mentioned, Seated Halves have more PL coins than most other series. So many of these are confused with Proofs...except for the rims, it would be hard to tell them apart.
Here's the newest Nickel for my 1898 MS Date Set...
which is a nice addition to its sister coin ... the 1898 PR ...
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New Barber Purchases
Just won this coin on Ebay thru Mike Flannagan...nice enough coin, IMHO. Its going to look
very nice with the other raw XF45-AU53 Barber Halves in that album.
I just received the XF 40 1905-O today [ posted earlier ] and its a keeper. Thanks, Wilbur !!
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New Barber Purchases
Just won this ANACS AU 58 - 1911-P Half ... I like it a whole lot better than the one already in my set...
here's the 1911-P that the above coin will replace...
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Dave
Regarding this thread, I think we should let it expire. It's past it's useful life and only a few of us Barber nuts visit it any more. We need to start more general purpose Barber threads so the non-nuts can see what they're missing. My next postings of new images will be in new threads.
Okay...I'll let this thread slip into oblivion...sorry Dan.
I was hoping it'd make it to 1,000 posts.
I can see what Tom says, its become unweildy,
and only a few die-hard Barber collectors look
at it anymore.
One last image...and I'll put this thread to rest:
Not My Coin:
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Regards to all,
Dave
Connor Numismatics Website
Anytime you want you can release those XF-45's...I will gladly take them off you hands!!
vr,
Dave
Link to 1899-S Half newest addition to my set
Here is a link to my newest addition from Harry Laibstain, a really neat original 1899-S with original toning and PL surfaces underneath although the toning masks that a great deal as does my photographic skills. Really excited about this addition.
Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
Dan... I remember that 1896-O ... its a beauty. Lovely toning too.
Glenn...Nice 1899-S...looks MS65...okay, okay, I peeked. Seriously,
that's a great coin. Glad you didn't have the imaged photoshopped
- I was a bit embarrassed about the 1913-S Thread.
Yeah, I know, I said I'd let this thread die off...its just so darn addicting !
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New Barber Purchases
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I picked up a nice quarter on TT the other day. I'll get some pics up soon.
Cya, Dave
Really like the look of that 1898 half.
Nothing new to report...
oh, yeah, I received the MS 66 1898 Liberty Head
Nickel this afternoon...I posted it earlier in this thread.
Its a beauty !!
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New Barber Purchases
You're right, the 1898 liberty head nickel is a beauty. I like the idea of a type set - using a specific year - that has a special meaning to you. From what I remember........it was one of your grandparent's birth year.
Dave,
I'm looking forward to seeing your new quarter (Barber I presume, since you're posting on this thread). Any luck with the seated quarters?
Connor Numismatics Website
Here it is, nothing to get too excited about:
June 10 TT auction. Ya, I know, I over paid a bit. $300 + the juice. Oh well.
The coin looks exactly like the TT image. I'm really starting to trust their images.
No Seated quarters yet, but I'm looking!
Dave
same coin
Don
Dave
Let's keep this thread going!
As long as new posts are still being added, I'll add one of my own. Here's a recent acquisition, which I haven't received yet. It's a 1908-P Barber half, graded by PCGS, AU-58. I found the 1908-P a little tougher to find than what you might expect. The coin looks to have pretty good detail, with a clean cheek and fields. I suspect that the coin may have been dipped at some point in time, but I'll get a better idea when I have the coin in hand. Considering what I paid for the coin (low end) and what certified AU Barber halves are currently going for, I can always sell the coin for a little profit or use it for trade bait.
Connor Numismatics Website
I just purchased a 1915-S in PCGS 66 for my set. This date is impossible in MS 66. Only 5 with two better, and only Dale Friend has one other 66 that I know about. I am so glad I found the coin.
Yippee!
Looking for Denmark 1874 20-Kroner. Please offer.
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with their grades. Most AU 58's are really 55's. Most 55's are AU 50- 53.
This grade-flation seems to carry thru on most of their assigned grades.
This coin is from its images, is at least an AU 53.
Congrats Peter, Dan and Craig on your NEWPS.
Sorry, nothing new here...I'm still on vacation...and won't be
back home for another two weeks.
Glad to see this thread hasn't died.
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New Barber Purchases
Nice coins everyone, keep em coming......9 posts to 700!
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Gorgeous quarter. Don, love the look on that 1914-P. Dan, I found the 10-S very difficult to find. Love your example.
I note a new member on the Registry who has an 1897-S in XF45. I've sent the person an email. Does anyone know who is "Barry's Barber Halves"? I'd like to PM them as well. This person is off to a ncie start with lots of keys in place. I hope he/she is able to put up pics.
If anyone can help me out with making this trade, there is a nice Barber Half with your name on it from me for your efforts.
This would then leave me with just the 05-P in which I would pocket piece my AU50 for a little bit.
Barry's Barber Halves
Looking for Denmark 1874 20-Kroner. Please offer.
Here is my newest addition as of Monday.
BFJohnson...congratulations on locating one of the toughest dates in the Barber Half series !!
Very nice looking coin - wish it were in my SDB instead of your's !! LOL.
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Congrats on the new 1893-s, nice upgrade and that coin looks sweet!!
Will’sProoflikes
Congratulations on a great pickup, one of the tougher dates in XF/AU. I was eyeballing the same coin on DLRC's website, but decided my 93-S would suffice for now. I'm glad to see a fellow board member snag it.
RYK,
Beautiful 1903 Barber quarter......must be one of Dale's beauties.
Connor Numismatics Website
I submitted five crossovers a few weeks back and just got notified that my NGC XF-45 1892-O just got BB'd. Here's a pic...can you figure out why PCGS refuses to slab it? Hopefully the image will post here!
Looking for Denmark 1874 20-Kroner. Please offer.
Dave -- I think Craig is right about the old cleaning on the 92o.
I posted the 1914 as someone on another forum thread said VF20s are for losers or something like that
Don