Damn dude lay off the crack before you post...it's obviously affecting your mind.
I mean why else would you have FSU chicks in your sig line, and not women in hometown garb? At least stown has the presence of mine to have a texans cheerleader in his sig line.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Damn dude lay off the crack before you post...it's obviously affecting your mind.
I mean why else would you have FSU chicks in your sig line, and not women in hometown garb? At least stown has the presence of mine to have a texans cheerleader in his sig line. >>
rajah424, lets just let him go, he will continue to make a fool of himself all night. Im going to let him pump his fist over getting the last word in here.
Again, you have to have someone else hold your hand as they comb over my posts for typos, as your feeble mind is unable to process such things.
Do you have any other websights (oops I mean websites, silly me) that you are such a PITA on? Or are we the lucky ones? >>
Idiot, check it out... I pointed that one out first.
It is painfully obvious that YOU are the PITA, I mean YOU were the one bammed several times right? And the statement "Or are WE the lucky ones? " "WE"? AX- 99% of the people on these boards despise you and hate you! Is it not soooooo obvious that you cannot take a hint? Lets be honest here, you must know that you are the most hated person on this forum right? Well I will not waste anymore time tonight on this so get the last word in, you annoying troll.
The people who yap and think they know about our O-Line never watched the games... Gaining "insight" by watching 15-second highlight clips on ESPN can do that, I suppose.
Being a real "fan" since day 1, I can't describe the excitement that's around here. Being 2-0 after all that we've been through is mind-blowing. Sure, we could end up 2-14 but we are all enjoying the moment. Reliant will be ROCKING come kickoff on Sunday. I can only hope it will be even louder afterwards.
Good times to be a hometown fan since day 1. You appreciate the moments, regardless of how long they last, more.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Meanwhile Reggie Bush on some plays, from what I've observed, appears as if he's more interested in not getting hurt, than in gaining yardage for his team. Time will tell if Williams was the better first pick or not. but it's seems right now more likely that Williams will be the better pick in the long-run.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Oh well, with our starting RB, 2 WRs, Center, and special teams returners out, can't expect much.
Well played game and came up just a little short.
We'll get them next time
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<< <i>Good to see you took the loss without any excuses >>
Oh and I neglected to mention Chris Taylor, who would have started at RB, got hurt in training camp.
And Petey Fehggins (sp on purpose because according to CU, his name is a bad word) had a hang nail on his little toe... Those really hurt..
+1
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>Texans defensive tackle Amobi Okoye was named the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for September, it was announced today. Okoye becomes the second Texans rookie to win the award and is the fourth Texan to win player of the month honors.
Okoye (6-2, 302) has started all four games for the Texans this season, recording 10 tackles, an AFC-high 4.0 sacks for 30.0 yards, a team-high four quarterback pressures, and he tied for the team lead with one forced fumble. He also has been solid against the run, helping the Texans to the sixth-ranked run defense in the NFL.
Okoye recorded his first two sacks of the season and set the Texans rookie record for most sacks in a game at Carolina (9/16). He tied the Texans' rookie record by recording a sack in three consecutive games. Okoye’s 4.0 sacks in the month of September were the most by a rookie defensive tackle since Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams had 5.0 in December 2003.
Okoye’s 4.0 sacks leads all rookies, is tied for tops in the AFC, and is second among all defensive tackles. With Okoye at defensive tackle, the Texans ended the month of September ranked 14th in total defense, their highest ranking in the first month of the season in team history.
Okoye joins punter Chad Stanley, cornerback Marcus Coleman and linebacker DeMeco Ryans as the other Texans to win NFL Player of the Month Awards. Stanley won the AFC Special Teams Award in September 2002, Coleman picked up the AFC Defensive Award in 2003 and Ryans was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month in December 2006. >>
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Having said that, rookies are players too. So technically, there was nothing wrong with it... Only a mere formality.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Only the Texans could get a 15-yard penalty and give up an automatic first down on a play that resulted in a 15-yard LOSS because one of their players taunted a motionless QB after the play was over.
<< <i>I'll bet y'all wish Kris Brown was your fantasy kicker: 5-for-5 on field goals with three over 50 yards... >>
Actually pretty happy with the job Stover has done for me this year...solid as usual.
Needing a 57 yard FG to win the game against a hapless and winless Dolphins team after losing to the previously winless Falcons? Wow this texans team is GREAT!
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Off topic but what do you guys on this board do for a living to afford all of this stuff? Season tickets on the 40ish, top sets, busting tons of product. Sign me up for whatever you guys are doing. And by the way, my dad (a phins fan) is on the verge of tears about this game. Ok maybe that's an overstatement but I know they'll be pouring out of his eyes after MIA loses to Cleveland next week haha.
My man of the year vote goes to Travis Johnson. What a dik.
Regardless of how pissed he was for being blocked low (which was all legal), have the common sense not to talk down to the guy laying motionless on the ground who is obviously in worse shape than you.
<< <i>My man of the year vote goes to Travis Johnson. What a dik.
Regardless of how pissed he was for being blocked low (which was all legal), have the common sense not to talk down to the guy laying motionless on the ground who is obviously in worse shape than you. >>
I understand your perspective but think about it from TJ's. Afterwards, which of course the media doesn't show, TJ apologized for his earlier remarks.
<< <i>YOU'RE TEXANS DEFENSIVE TACKLE TRAVIS JOHNSON. You've watched Ginn reverse his field. You turn to chase him. You see teammates getting blocked. You've got an angle on Ginn. You know he's superfast, but you also think you've got a shot. You have a split second to make a decision.
You suffered two injuries last season, and the head coach told you that you were down to your last chance to stay healthy. You worked so hard in the offseason to get into peak physical condition. You worked your way into the starting lineup. You've been healthy. And now you're chasing a first-round pick who's one of the fastest players in the NFL.
You think you might have a chance to chase him into another defensive player or two who can bring him down or force him out of bounds. Just when you get up a full head of steam, someone shoots into your peripheral vision, but before you can turn your head to try to avoid them, you feel this terrible pain in your right knee, and the next thing you know you're in the air looking at the video screen at the end of the stadium upside down. When you come down on your head you wonder if your neck is broken.
You don't have time to react to the pain in your knee or your neck. You jump up and chase the play, and when you see Ginn has been taken down, you lose it. You think about your career could have been over with a neck injury. Your season could have been over with a knee injury. You turn and look around at who hit your knee, and you see quarterback Trent Green on the ground. You run over and scream at him two times and walk away. You don't know he's out cold. You don't care, either. All you know is that he went after your knee and could have ended your career. You think about your daughter and your family, and anger pours out at Green.
Then you see a yellow flag. You've been penalized 15 yards for taunting, giving the opponent a first down at the Texans' 25-yard line, negating a 15-yard loss by Ginn. You see the quarterback lying prone, out cold. You see the cart coming out to get him. You see him being immobilized. You see his teammates praying. But one tells you Green is talking and moving his arms and legs, but you're still so angry you think the quarterback got what he deserved after the cheap shot he put on you.
You're Travis Johnson and you hope Trent Green is okay, but there's this searing pain in your right knee. And your neck is starting to get stiff. You tell the doctors and trainers you can keep playing, and you do.
• • •
Trent Green had a split second to react, and he went low at Travis Johnson. His career could be over because he led with his head, and it hit Johnson's right knee. Considering the severe concussion Green suffered in Kansas City's opener last season, you wonder how many more he can withstand.
Travis Johnson had a split second to react, and he went ballistic at Green. Johnson was scared because of what could have happened. When Johnson went over to Green and yelled at him, it looked terrible because Green was out cold. Johnson walked away, but it was too late to avoid the penalty.
The block and the taunt will be shown hundreds of times this week around the country. Johnson will be the bad guy. He knows it. He doesn't care. He just wishes fans would try to see his side of it. He believes he was blocked illegally - a shot that could have ended his career. Anyone who watches the play sees Johnson flip into the air and come down on his head. Johnson isn't looking for sympathy, just understanding. Try to put yourself in my shoes, he said.
Johnson will undergo an MRI on Tuesday because there's a clicking in his sore knee. He apologized after the game. The first time he met with reporters, he ripped Green. Later, he settle down and tried to explain himself. >>
I was in the stands and watched it happen. Everyone that sat near me was in absolute shock that TJ got up so fast after flipping on his head. In Travis' defense, he didn't know Green was out cold and it's not like he stood over him talking smack. It was a horrifying hit, on both ends, and hopefully neither player has lingering effects...
We were penalized, Travis apologized, and that's that.
Edited to add and clarify: TJ should have keep his cool and Green shouldn't have gone for the knees. They were both in the wrong, even if the block is considered legal.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>My man of the year vote goes to Travis Johnson. What a dik.
Regardless of how pissed he was for being blocked low (which was all legal), have the common sense not to talk down to the guy laying motionless on the ground who is obviously in worse shape than you. >>
Agreed, but legal or not, it was a cheap shot. Try to imagine the reaction if a lineman cut a QB like that instead of the other way around. There would be hell to pay. There is a clear double standard about these things.
That said, while I understand his anger over the cheap block, to show no restraint and taunt a man on the ground knocked out cold is no-class. If Johnson was really mad, he should have just looked at Trent Green on the ground, walked away, said nothing and *thought* to himself that Green got what was coming for throwing such a block. Instead he popped off to an unconscious man AND screwed his team by giving the Fish an automatic first down after a loss of what, 15 yards or so?
I understand the whole "heat of the moment" argument. However, it is real easy to tell the difference in a guy on the ground who is hurt, and a guy on the ground who is knocked the F out. I probably could have understood if it was just on the field actions, but to run off at the mouth and say he got what was coming to him was classless. Yeah, he apologized, but only after he was most likely told to by his higher-ups.
Again, I understand where you are coming from but Travis didn't know Green was knocked out.
Sure, if you watch the slow-mo replays, it appears as if Travis is standing over him for a while and talking smack. However, watching it as things were going on, it was nothing more than a verbal jab, which goes on almost every single play.
To call TJ "classless" for what he did, in my opinion, is an over-exaggeration.
Had Green not gone for his knees and while he wasn't looking, I would agree with you 100%.
It was a dirty, cheap-shot by Green. TJ talking smack was uncalled for.
Both were in the wrong, in my opinion.
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It wasn't a cheap shot by Green, it was a legal play. Losing your cool in a press conference way after you had time to cool down and going after him knowing he was more seriously hurt is classless.
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Doesn't matter if it's heat of the moment, to stand over a motionless player and TAUNT him is inexcusable...I don't care if he apologized later (or rather, if his publicist apologized for him). Green was lying there, motionless, and he's standing over him taunting him?
The guy needs to sit at least a game and sustain a hefty fine.
Straight thug move...but then I wouldn't expect anything more than the 'fine' folk in houston.
<< <i>Doesn't matter if it's heat of the moment, to stand over a motionless player and TAUNT him is inexcusable...I don't care if he apologized later (or rather, if his publicist apologized for him). Green was lying there, motionless, and he's standing over him taunting him?
The guy needs to sit at least a game and sustain a hefty fine.
Straight thug move...but then I wouldn't expect anything more than the 'fine' folk in houston. >>
This has nothing to do with the quality of people that live in Houston. Quit being an idiot.
<< <i>It wasn't a cheap shot by Green, it was a legal play. Losing your cool in a press conference way after you had time to cool down and going after him knowing he was more seriously hurt is classless. >>
"Legal" and "clean" aren't one and the same, IMO. Legal or not, that was a cheap hit.
As I said before -- let's turn the tables and have a lineman cut a QB like that in the open field, and let's see how many people think it was still an okay hit.
<< <i>It wasn't a cheap shot by Green, it was a legal play. Losing your cool in a press conference way after you had time to cool down and going after him knowing he was more seriously hurt is classless. >>
"Legal" and "clean" aren't one and the same, IMO. Legal or not, that was a cheap hit.
As I said before -- let's turn the tables and have a lineman cut a QB like that in the open field, and let's see how many people think it was still an okay hit. >>
One hole in that argument is that a lineman has no business cutting a guy he's got a hundred pound advantage on. When you can push a guy to the ground with one hand, cutting is unnecessary, thus it would be cheap.
The problem with calling it a "cheap" shot is that there is such a fine line between cheap and just being a good play. If Trent drops in front of him just a split second later, he hits Johnson in the thighs, and this conversation is non-existent. The whole basis of blocking a guy is to get lower than him and slow him down. What good does Trent do his team if he runs at him and jumps at his chest? He probably bounces off like a rag doll and is a blooper reel fixture for the rest of his life.
I'm sure that Trent had no intentions of trying to hurt anyone, he was just doing what he had to do to help his team. To call it a cheap shot implies that he was trying to play dirty, and I just don't think that was the case.
<< <i>Doesn't matter if it's heat of the moment, to stand over a motionless player and TAUNT him is inexcusable...I don't care if he apologized later (or rather, if his publicist apologized for him). Green was lying there, motionless, and he's standing over him taunting him?
The guy needs to sit at least a game and sustain a hefty fine.
Straight thug move...but then I wouldn't expect anything more than the 'fine' folk in houston. >>
This has nothing to do with the quality of people that live in Houston. Quit being an idiot. >>
Yes, thank you once again for showing everyone what little you know about football. Idiot.
1) TJ did not stand over him and taunt, regardless of how many times you say it. But I guess when you only gain insight into a game by watching 15 second highlights in slow motion on ESPN, it may appear that way.
2) TJ did in fact apologize for his outburst, not his publicist, idiot.
I did not mean to imply that Green is a dirty player, just that one particular play was, in my opinion, a cheap play. If Green does not lead with his helmet into TJ's knee cap, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
TJ was lucky that his career did not end on that play. Busted knee cap, torn ligaments, or even worse, a broken neck.
Actually I know why Tinkerbell thinks TJ is a thug.
Axtell is a racist, plan and simple.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
It has to do with you being an antisemitic racist.
That is all.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
<< <i>It has to do with you being an antisemitic racist.
That is all. >>
So I hate Jews too?
huh?
God you really are an idiot. >>
Read your own sig line, dope.
All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. ~ Thomas Paine
So yes, you are not only a racist but an anti-semite as well.
Oh yeah, you're an idiotic bandwagoner too but that's a given.
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I mean why else would you have FSU chicks in your sig line, and not women in hometown garb? At least stown has the presence of mine to have a texans cheerleader in his sig line.
<< <i>Damn dude lay off the crack before you post...it's obviously affecting your mind.
I mean why else would you have FSU chicks in your sig line, and not women in hometown garb? At least stown has the presence of mine to have a texans cheerleader in his sig line. >>
WOW, you are reaching now.
Just saying that it is hilarious you can't find any hot patriot cheerleader photos.
<< <i>Nobody's reaching.
Just saying that it is hilarious you can't find any hot patriot cheerleader photos. >>
Got plenty of those, variety is the spice of life. Not that a big boned fellow such as yourself would understand though...
<< <i>At least stown has the presence of mine... >>
That would be presence of "mind."
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<< <i>At least stown has the presence of mine... >>
That would be presence of "mind." >>
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<< <i>At least stown has the presence of mine... >>
That would be presence of "mind." >>
Funnier still that you had to have my typo point out to you...twit.
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Funnier still that you had to have my typo point out to you...twit. >>
I think you meant to write- "Funnier still that you had to have my typo point THAT out to you"
Again, you are such a tool.
Shouldn't that be pointed out.
Again, you have to have someone else hold your hand as they comb over my posts for typos, as your feeble mind is unable to process such things.
Do you have any other websights (oops I mean websites, silly me) that you are such a PITA on? Or are we the lucky ones?
<< <i>perk-
Again, you have to have someone else hold your hand as they comb over my posts for typos, as your feeble mind is unable to process such things.
Do you have any other websights (oops I mean websites, silly me) that you are such a PITA on? Or are we the lucky ones? >>
Idiot, check it out... I pointed that one out first.
It is painfully obvious that YOU are the PITA, I mean YOU were the one bammed several times right? And the statement "Or are WE the lucky ones? " "WE"? AX- 99% of the people on these boards despise you and hate you! Is it not soooooo obvious that you cannot take a hint? Lets be honest here, you must know that you are the most hated person on this forum right? Well I will not waste anymore time tonight on this so get the last word in, you annoying troll.
Hey Stown, very nice job today with your Texans!
<< <i>I will apoligize to Stown for falling in the bear trap argument with the resident fool and going off topic. >>
And I'm being called a fool?
bwahaha
Nice gloves and take note of the pre-game hair...
His after game hairdo didn't move an inch
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And it looks like the national media is starting to wake up. First Mario wins DPOW and now our line doesn't look that bad afterall, huh?
Maybe it was David Carr after all.
The people who yap and think they know about our O-Line never watched the games... Gaining "insight" by watching 15-second highlight clips on ESPN can do that, I suppose.
Being a real "fan" since day 1, I can't describe the excitement that's around here. Being 2-0 after all that we've been through is mind-blowing. Sure, we could end up 2-14 but we are all enjoying the moment. Reliant will be ROCKING come kickoff on Sunday. I can only hope it will be even louder afterwards.
Good times to be a hometown fan since day 1. You appreciate the moments, regardless of how long they last, more.
Meanwhile Reggie Bush on some plays, from what I've observed, appears as if he's more interested in not getting hurt, than in gaining yardage for his team. Time will tell if Williams was the better first pick or not. but it's seems right now more likely that Williams will be the better pick in the long-run.
With Johnson out and Green done after the 1st series, it showed how much heart this team has. I'm VERY proud to be a Texan fan
This is a video I took of Mathis' opening kickoff return for a TD. The roof absolutely blew off Reliant!! Good times
TD Texans!
Nice pics. Those stuffed jalapenos wrapped in Angus bull scrotum look great.
Guess having those extra megapixels comes in handy.
Oh well, with our starting RB, 2 WRs, Center, and special teams returners out, can't expect much.
Well played game and came up just a little short.
We'll get them next time
<< <i>Good to see you took the loss without any excuses
Oh and I neglected to mention Chris Taylor, who would have started at RB, got hurt in training camp.
And Petey Fehggins (sp on purpose because according to CU, his name is a bad word) had a hang nail on his little toe... Those really hurt..
+1
+1 for back to back posts though..................................
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Oh well, with our starting RB, 2 WRs, Center, and special teams returners out, can't expect much.
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Excuses, excuses. Every team has injuries, using them to explain a loss is a cop out. Losing to the winless falcons?
Bucs lose their starting RB early yet dominate.
Seems the real Texans have decided to stand up 2 weeks in a row.
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<< <i>Texans defensive tackle Amobi Okoye was named the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month for September, it was announced today. Okoye becomes the second Texans rookie to win the award and is the fourth Texan to win player of the month honors.
Okoye (6-2, 302) has started all four games for the Texans this season, recording 10 tackles, an AFC-high 4.0 sacks for 30.0 yards, a team-high four quarterback pressures, and he tied for the team lead with one forced fumble. He also has been solid against the run, helping the Texans to the sixth-ranked run defense in the NFL.
Okoye recorded his first two sacks of the season and set the Texans rookie record for most sacks in a game at Carolina (9/16). He tied the Texans' rookie record by recording a sack in three consecutive games. Okoye’s 4.0 sacks in the month of September were the most by a rookie defensive tackle since Vikings defensive tackle Kevin Williams had 5.0 in December 2003.
Okoye’s 4.0 sacks leads all rookies, is tied for tops in the AFC, and is second among all defensive tackles. With Okoye at defensive tackle, the Texans ended the month of September ranked 14th in total defense, their highest ranking in the first month of the season in team history.
Okoye joins punter Chad Stanley, cornerback Marcus Coleman and linebacker DeMeco Ryans as the other Texans to win NFL Player of the Month Awards. Stanley won the AFC Special Teams Award in September 2002, Coleman picked up the AFC Defensive Award in 2003 and Ryans was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month in December 2006. >>
Pretty big difference....am sure it was an honest mistake though.
Having said that, rookies are players too. So technically, there was nothing wrong with it... Only a mere formality.
<< <i>I'll bet y'all wish Kris Brown was your fantasy kicker: 5-for-5 on field goals with three over 50 yards... >>
Actually pretty happy with the job Stover has done for me this year...solid as usual.
Needing a 57 yard FG to win the game against a hapless and winless Dolphins team after losing to the previously winless Falcons? Wow this texans team is GREAT!
Videos below...
Kris Brown from 54 yards
Kris Brown from 54 yards, again!!
Kris Brown, for an NFL record third 50+ yrd FG, a Texans' record for longest at 57, AND the win!
Regardless of how pissed he was for being blocked low (which was all legal), have the common sense not to talk down to the guy laying motionless on the ground who is obviously in worse shape than you.
<< <i>My man of the year vote goes to Travis Johnson. What a dik.
Regardless of how pissed he was for being blocked low (which was all legal), have the common sense not to talk down to the guy laying motionless on the ground who is obviously in worse shape than you. >>
I understand your perspective but think about it from TJ's. Afterwards, which of course the media doesn't show, TJ apologized for his earlier remarks.
The General put it best:
<< <i>YOU'RE TEXANS DEFENSIVE TACKLE TRAVIS JOHNSON. You've watched Ginn reverse his field. You turn to chase him. You see teammates getting blocked. You've got an angle on Ginn. You know he's superfast, but you also think you've got a shot. You have a split second to make a decision.
You suffered two injuries last season, and the head coach told you that you were down to your last chance to stay healthy. You worked so hard in the offseason to get into peak physical condition. You worked your way into the starting lineup. You've been healthy. And now you're chasing a first-round pick who's one of the fastest players in the NFL.
You think you might have a chance to chase him into another defensive player or two who can bring him down or force him out of bounds. Just when you get up a full head of steam, someone shoots into your peripheral vision, but before you can turn your head to try to avoid them, you feel this terrible pain in your right knee, and the next thing you know you're in the air looking at the video screen at the end of the stadium upside down. When you come down on your head you wonder if your neck is broken.
You don't have time to react to the pain in your knee or your neck. You jump up and chase the play, and when you see Ginn has been taken down, you lose it. You think about your career could have been over with a neck injury. Your season could have been over with a knee injury. You turn and look around at who hit your knee, and you see quarterback Trent Green on the ground. You run over and scream at him two times and walk away. You don't know he's out cold. You don't care, either. All you know is that he went after your knee and could have ended your career. You think about your daughter and your family, and anger pours out at Green.
Then you see a yellow flag. You've been penalized 15 yards for taunting, giving the opponent a first down at the Texans' 25-yard line, negating a 15-yard loss by Ginn. You see the quarterback lying prone, out cold. You see the cart coming out to get him. You see him being immobilized. You see his teammates praying. But one tells you Green is talking and moving his arms and legs, but you're still so angry you think the quarterback got what he deserved after the cheap shot he put on you.
You're Travis Johnson and you hope Trent Green is okay, but there's this searing pain in your right knee. And your neck is starting to get stiff. You tell the doctors and trainers you can keep playing, and you do.
• • •
Trent Green had a split second to react, and he went low at Travis Johnson. His career could be over because he led with his head, and it hit Johnson's right knee. Considering the severe concussion Green suffered in Kansas City's opener last season, you wonder how many more he can withstand.
Travis Johnson had a split second to react, and he went ballistic at Green. Johnson was scared because of what could have happened. When Johnson went over to Green and yelled at him, it looked terrible because Green was out cold. Johnson walked away, but it was too late to avoid the penalty.
The block and the taunt will be shown hundreds of times this week around the country. Johnson will be the bad guy. He knows it. He doesn't care. He just wishes fans would try to see his side of it. He believes he was blocked illegally - a shot that could have ended his career. Anyone who watches the play sees Johnson flip into the air and come down on his head. Johnson isn't looking for sympathy, just understanding. Try to put yourself in my shoes, he said.
Johnson will undergo an MRI on Tuesday because there's a clicking in his sore knee. He apologized after the game. The first time he met with reporters, he ripped Green. Later, he settle down and tried to explain himself. >>
I was in the stands and watched it happen. Everyone that sat near me was in absolute shock that TJ got up so fast after flipping on his head. In Travis' defense, he didn't know Green was out cold and it's not like he stood over him talking smack. It was a horrifying hit, on both ends, and hopefully neither player has lingering effects...
We were penalized, Travis apologized, and that's that.
Edited to add and clarify: TJ should have keep his cool and Green shouldn't have gone for the knees. They were both in the wrong, even if the block is considered legal.
<< <i>My man of the year vote goes to Travis Johnson. What a dik.
Regardless of how pissed he was for being blocked low (which was all legal), have the common sense not to talk down to the guy laying motionless on the ground who is obviously in worse shape than you. >>
Agreed, but legal or not, it was a cheap shot. Try to imagine the reaction if a lineman cut a QB like that instead of the other way around. There would be hell to pay. There is a clear double standard about these things.
That said, while I understand his anger over the cheap block, to show no restraint and taunt a man on the ground knocked out cold is no-class. If Johnson was really mad, he should have just looked at Trent Green on the ground, walked away, said nothing and *thought* to himself that Green got what was coming for throwing such a block. Instead he popped off to an unconscious man AND screwed his team by giving the Fish an automatic first down after a loss of what, 15 yards or so?
Sure, if you watch the slow-mo replays, it appears as if Travis is standing over him for a while and talking smack. However, watching it as things were going on, it was nothing more than a verbal jab, which goes on almost every single play.
To call TJ "classless" for what he did, in my opinion, is an over-exaggeration.
Had Green not gone for his knees and while he wasn't looking, I would agree with you 100%.
It was a dirty, cheap-shot by Green. TJ talking smack was uncalled for.
Both were in the wrong, in my opinion.
The guy needs to sit at least a game and sustain a hefty fine.
Straight thug move...but then I wouldn't expect anything more than the 'fine' folk in houston.
<< <i>Again, I understand where you are coming from but Travis didn't know Green was knocked out. >>
Are you kidding?!?! Green was lying there MOTIONLESS. How could he come to the conclusion he WASN'T knocked out?
Quit defending your boy and admit it was a cheap and thug play!
<< <i>Had Green not gone for his knees and while he wasn't looking, I would agree with you 100%.
It was a dirty, cheap-shot by Green. TJ talking smack was uncalled for.
Both were in the wrong, in my opinion. >>
It was a completely LEGAL play by Green.
<< <i>Doesn't matter if it's heat of the moment, to stand over a motionless player and TAUNT him is inexcusable...I don't care if he apologized later (or rather, if his publicist apologized for him). Green was lying there, motionless, and he's standing over him taunting him?
The guy needs to sit at least a game and sustain a hefty fine.
Straight thug move...but then I wouldn't expect anything more than the 'fine' folk in houston. >>
This has nothing to do with the quality of people that live in Houston. Quit being an idiot.
<< <i>It wasn't a cheap shot by Green, it was a legal play. Losing your cool in a press conference way after you had time to cool down and going after him knowing he was more seriously hurt is classless. >>
"Legal" and "clean" aren't one and the same, IMO. Legal or not, that was a cheap hit.
As I said before -- let's turn the tables and have a lineman cut a QB like that in the open field, and let's see how many people think it was still an okay hit.
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<< <i>It wasn't a cheap shot by Green, it was a legal play. Losing your cool in a press conference way after you had time to cool down and going after him knowing he was more seriously hurt is classless. >>
"Legal" and "clean" aren't one and the same, IMO. Legal or not, that was a cheap hit.
As I said before -- let's turn the tables and have a lineman cut a QB like that in the open field, and let's see how many people think it was still an okay hit. >>
One hole in that argument is that a lineman has no business cutting a guy he's got a hundred pound advantage on. When you can push a guy to the ground with one hand, cutting is unnecessary, thus it would be cheap.
The problem with calling it a "cheap" shot is that there is such a fine line between cheap and just being a good play. If Trent drops in front of him just a split second later, he hits Johnson in the thighs, and this conversation is non-existent. The whole basis of blocking a guy is to get lower than him and slow him down. What good does Trent do his team if he runs at him and jumps at his chest? He probably bounces off like a rag doll and is a blooper reel fixture for the rest of his life.
I'm sure that Trent had no intentions of trying to hurt anyone, he was just doing what he had to do to help his team. To call it a cheap shot implies that he was trying to play dirty, and I just don't think that was the case.
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<< <i>Doesn't matter if it's heat of the moment, to stand over a motionless player and TAUNT him is inexcusable...I don't care if he apologized later (or rather, if his publicist apologized for him). Green was lying there, motionless, and he's standing over him taunting him?
The guy needs to sit at least a game and sustain a hefty fine.
Straight thug move...but then I wouldn't expect anything more than the 'fine' folk in houston. >>
This has nothing to do with the quality of people that live in Houston. Quit being an idiot. >>
Yes, thank you once again for showing everyone what little you know about football. Idiot.
1) TJ did not stand over him and taunt, regardless of how many times you say it. But I guess when you only gain insight into a game by watching 15 second highlights in slow motion on ESPN, it may appear that way.
2) TJ did in fact apologize for his outburst, not his publicist, idiot.
I did not mean to imply that Green is a dirty player, just that one particular play was, in my opinion, a cheap play. If Green does not lead with his helmet into TJ's knee cap, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
TJ was lucky that his career did not end on that play. Busted knee cap, torn ligaments, or even worse, a broken neck.
Actually I know why Tinkerbell thinks TJ is a thug.
Axtell is a racist, plan and simple.
Apologize? Who cares about apologies...how you act in the heat of the moment defines you. He's a classless thug.
Apologizing for that doesn't change your character.
Oh, stown, if he had been white, I would have called him a thug too. Has nothing to do with color, everything to do with character.
He has none.
That is all.
<< <i>It has to do with you being an antisemitic racist.
That is all. >>
So I hate Jews too?
huh?
God you really are an idiot.
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<< <i>It has to do with you being an antisemitic racist.
That is all. >>
So I hate Jews too?
huh?
God you really are an idiot. >>
Read your own sig line, dope.
All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
~ Thomas Paine
So yes, you are not only a racist but an anti-semite as well.
Oh yeah, you're an idiotic bandwagoner too but that's a given.