1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

blindflyer · January 20, 2007 1:57AM

Okay,

the 84 Donruss Box Bust is FULL:

1. Blindflyer
2. Spahnfan
3. ArnyVee
4. Al Navman

I'm not positive on exact cost, but when Arny put it together last time it was $50 per person.

If you want to pay via paypal and not use a credit card, I have a personal paypal account that won't charge fees. I'm going to order the box in the next day or so. Hold off on paying me until I get the exact cost and figure it all out.

If you want to pay with a check, PM me and i'll shoot over my address.

Looking forward to this!

-Tom

blindflyer · January 20, 2007 2:20AM

bump

alnavman · January 20, 2007 4:23AM

Arny, are you bidding on a 84 Donruss set currently?? I had bid on a set and was outbid and if it was you I don't want to jack up the price.....let me know.

thanks

al.

Stingray · January 20, 2007 8:48AM

I wish I could do the box thing, but I am on a tight budget. Let us know how it goes. Did that ebayer win all of larryvan's auctions??

ArnyVee · January 20, 2007 11:17PM

<< <i>Arny, are you bidding on a 84 Donruss set currently?? I had bid on a set and was outbid and if it was you I don't want to jack up the price.....let me know.

thanks

al. >>

I don't remember.

But, my ID is SPORTSCARDMAN. So, if that's it....then that's me.

ArnyVee · January 21, 2007 12:19AM

Aside from the ones that most of you know about it, I've also got the following available in PSA 9 (unless otherwise noted)....

#12 - Ray Knight Steel DK
#30 - Ron Darling Number on Back PSA 8
#72 - Ken Schrom
#73 - George Bell
#137 - Bo Diaz
#256 - Odell Jones
#309 - Andy McGaffigan
#351 - Cecil Cooper
#370 - Ray Fontenot
#393 - Tom Candiotti RC
#433 - Jody Davis
#500 - Bob Johnson
#525 - George Wright
#568 - Alan Wiggins

Let me know if anyone is interested.

blindflyer · January 21, 2007 3:30AM

PM's have been sent to all box bust participants.

Box has been ordered from BBCE!

-Tom

julen23 · January 22, 2007 1:18AM

thanks for winning my auctions guys!

i noticed that larryvan's auctions of the same cards as mine went for more $$$, the friggin staub went for $61.00, but mine sold for half that!

is the person who was paying the premiums for those cards from larryvan a cu member?

everybody's cards went out today, except arny, who hasn't paid yet.

peace
julen

Stingray · January 22, 2007 1:36AM

I do not believe this smillsap or whatever his/her name is that won those is a member of CU. I was hoping to win that Lansford too, but was out bid on that one. Oh well, I did get another 10 for the the set!! I see you have some others out there for auction. But you have to be quick or Arny will beat you to the punch on bidding.

blindflyer · January 22, 2007 2:05AM

<< <i>

i noticed that larryvan's auctions of the same cards as mine went for more $$$, the friggin staub went for $61.00, but mine sold for half that!
>>

I still think LarryVan shilled his auctions.

ArnyVee · January 22, 2007 2:20AM

Larry's stuff was seemingly shilled. It just doesn't seem right that those cards went for those prices and all of us were outbid by one guy with questionable feedback. You'd think that he'd want his stuff to sell rather than get a reputations as a 'shiller'.

Kirk, I bid quick on those puppies! LOL

Stingray · January 22, 2007 2:32AM

<< <i>Larry's stuff was seemingly shilled. It just doesn't seem right that those cards went for those prices and all of us were outbid by one guy with questionable feedback. You'd think that he'd want his stuff to sell rather than get a reputations as a 'shiller'.

Kirk, I bid quick on those puppies! LOL >>

That was my thought, if you are going to shill, why not bid them up to a point where we still might think on bidding on them and not making them out of range of what these cards typically sell for??

julen23 · January 22, 2007 2:33AM

shouldn't he be reported to ebay police?

julen

Stingray · January 22, 2007 2:40AM

Where all those 10s ever part of a set registery??

alnavman · January 22, 2007 7:22AM

Hey Arny, noticed you were the one bidding on the same Donruss set I was.....I stopped bidding....hope you won..

al.

blindflyer · January 22, 2007 7:37AM

the 84 Donruss Box Bust:

1. Blindflyer -- PAID
2. Spahnfan -- check in mail
3. ArnyVee
4. Al Navman -- PAID

ArnyVee · January 22, 2007 8:11AM

T,

I'm waiting for this dispute is done via PayPal ($1800 in dispute from a lady) in the next day or two. As soon as that's done, I'll be sending you the $50 via PayPal!

rvc · January 22, 2007 11:40AM

smills gonna have some set w/these expensive 10's. too bad he's so particular about sellers.

julen23 · January 22, 2007 1:06PM

no kidding

julen

Stingray · January 22, 2007 8:07PM

Wow, looks like everyone is updating their sets lately. Doesn't look like I am going to be breaking the top 10 anytime soon.

JMS318 · January 23, 2007 1:23PM

Hi 84 Guys,
Looking for a psa 8 or higher on 414 84 DONRUSS DON SUTTON.
Anyone have an extra they need to unload cheap. LOL
Thanks,
Joe

Piman58 · January 25, 2007 10:05AM

Blindflyer, Spahnfan, ArnyVee, and Al Navman

Good luck on the box break.
I recently won a box on ebay for $103 including shipping and am waiting patiently for its arrival.

Piman

blindflyer · January 25, 2007 10:19AM

Who was the seller? I'm scared to death of boxes sold on ebay ... I really only trust Steve at BBCE and DACardWorld (to a lesser extent).

Keep us posted on the break!

-t

ArnyVee · January 25, 2007 10:40AM

Good luck with that box from eBay Piman!

I'm also pretty leery about buying from eBay with regards to wax boxes. Too many horror stories for my blood. I'd rather pay another $20 or $30 to Steve and ensure that I have a solid and unsearched product on my hands.

But, I have to say that I have bought one box in the past from eBay and the results were decent. So, it's not all bad.

Piman58 · January 25, 2007 7:57PM

I bought the box from cgalbsgo. Feedback was 23 and 96%.
All prior feedback was from before mid-July 2006.

Yes I am a gambler. The box has arrived and is in very good condition.
The packs are also in good condition. I am a novice at being able to identify
if a pack has been resealed, so the break will tell me if the packs have been
searched or not.

I will be breaking tonight and will post results as well as scans of all the
Mattinglys, Ripkens, Carters, and Gwynns I pull.

Are their any commons I should be looking for that are tough to find in a 10?

Piman58 · January 26, 2007 6:14AM

Here are some numerical results from the box break.

Not including the 36 built-in wax stained cards there are 504 cards.

There were 28 HOFs. (5.6%)
On a quick sort of L-R centering 140 appeared to be close to 50/50 witht he naked eye. (27.8%)
Another 192 fell into the range 60/40 to 70/30 range for L-R. (38.1%)

The break brought 2 each of Mattingly, Gwynn, Seaver, and Smith.
Ryan, Rose, Brett, Palmer, Jackson, Ripken, Molitor, Boggs, Carew, and Carlton also were in the break.

Scans will follow later tonight.

Chalres

blindflyer · January 26, 2007 6:26AM

Piman --- looks like a legit box! Congrats!

can't wait to see scans.

-t

Piman58 · January 26, 2007 7:06AM

Here are a couple of scans to start.

Some HOFers

A couple of great hitters

More will follow,
Charles

ArnyVee · January 26, 2007 7:39AM

Looks like you have solid 9s there Piman! The Boggs seems to be a candidate for a 10 too!

julen23 · January 26, 2007 8:23AM

2 mattingly's in 1 box?

i intend on owning a psa 10 mattingly and carter rc b4 this year is over...

just gotta figure out a way to finance it???

julen
tgif

Piman58 · January 26, 2007 8:40AM

Thanks Arny, I was pleased overall with my results.

I will grade a few, but will probably try to complete the set raw.

Charles

rvc · January 26, 2007 9:03AM

Piman58 · January 26, 2007 12:07PM

Here are some more scans:

Some PSA 10 pop 1's

Some PSA 10 pop 0's

Tomorrow some scans of some other low pops that I pulled that look good.

Charles

ldferg · January 26, 2007 11:58PM

2 mattinglys in one box?

yes, i pulled 3 from 2 boxes as well (each box came from different sources). the box that yielded 2 were pulled within 4 packs of each other at the end of my box rip. the box that had 2 were centered fairly well, the other was not but the corners were sweet. the 2 better ones have been submitted.

blindflyer · January 27, 2007 3:14AM

<< <i>the 84 Donruss Box Bust:

1. Blindflyer -- PAID
2. Spahnfan -- PAID
3. ArnyVee
4. Al Navman -- PAID >>

Box has arrived from BBCE!!

I'll try to get your packs out today ... but it may have to wait until Monday.

-Tom

rvc · January 27, 2007 5:16AM

good luck on the bust guys! may u all pull lots of 10's

blindflyer · January 27, 2007 9:20PM

*** 84 Box Bust Update ***

All 3 packages are packed and ready for Monday shipment. I plan on shipping priority mail (from California) -- you guys should get them on Wed!

It's 5:00 AM out here and I've been up all night --- mostly organizing cards.

When I cracked our box and began packing your packages, my complete lack of self control kicked in. In a flurry of madness, I had 9 pack wrappers and stale gum scattered all over my living room floor. My portion of the bust is complete.

Some obversations:
1. A few packs had some cards with corner dings. I didn't count them specifically, and it could have just been my brick.
2. Centering overall is really fantastic. Pleasantly surprised here.
3. I didn't pull hardly any star power --- so you guys are in luck!
4. I'm in love with '84 Donruss. Is there a cure for this disease?

GOOD LUCK GUYS!

-Tom

blindflyer · January 27, 2007 9:25PM

Here was the "Star Power" from my 9 packs...

The Carter and Chicken were actually both fun pulls --- but both are O/C and not gradeable. Very few stars overall in my 9 packs. That likely means that the other 27 packs are LOADED.

Lucky ba$tards!

-Tom

EDITED TO ADD: The Nolan Ryan is wax-stained on reverse.

86nova · January 28, 2007 10:07AM

Grades posted. Was happy with results of recent submission. Brooks (607), Wilson(618), and Moreno(637) were all 10's. Tunnell, and Dipino were both 9's. Gwynn, and Ryan both 10's, and Rose and Ripken were both 9's. Cards were mailed out on Friday,the 26th., so hopefully will receive in a couple of days. Will attempt to post pics of the first 5 when they arrive. 86nova--- Craig

Stingray · January 28, 2007 8:19PM

(bb)cardbuyer?? Alright who is this person?? Can't keep track of all of these buyers of 84 Donruss.

ArnyVee · January 28, 2007 11:34PM

Craig, great job on those 10s! Wow!

Kirk, I like the fact that there are lots of buyers for the '84 Donruss, but it sucks when you try and get a card that you think you have all sewn up to only get outbid at the last second by an unknown or inconsistent buyer.

Had it happen with me on the Milt Wilcox PSA 9 card recently. I needed that card outright and someone took it from me

Stingray · January 28, 2007 11:42PM

I saw you bidding on that Wilcox card. There seems to be quite a few low pops in PSA 10 out there, but I am leary about paying high prices for a 1 of 1 or 1 of 2 when there is still some unopened material out there. Not sure the premium on these low pop cards are justified??

julen23 · January 28, 2007 11:50PM

gentleman,

i noticed there are lots of low pop psa 10's out there on e-bay. do you guys think in a year from now there will be NO 1/1 psa 10's for any card in this set? seems like saturation is setting in for this set and there is obviuosly a really HIGH demand for these cards right now.

if i were collecting this set, i would consider tracking and patience, versus jumping into a bidding war w/ some yahoo over a card that may not be 1/1 in a year from now?

regardless, you guys rock & i am sending your cards out today kirk!

julen

Stingray · January 29, 2007 12:55AM

Thanks, I did not get a chance to check my winnings or I would have paid earlier. I am sure not going to go bid crazy for a low pop 10 at this point. There are too many cards that I need and I just does not make sense.

ArnyVee · January 29, 2007 1:26AM

Unless it's a card that I need outright for my set, I definitely go with the 'wait and see' approach on most of these 10s. If I pick up a few under or at around $20, I'll take 'em as upgrades to my set. But, it makes sense to wait and have patience because even though there isn't a ton of this product out there, there is still unopened product. And, still a chance that more of these 1/1s or 1/2s will pop another 2 or 3 of each.

We'll see, I guess.

rvc · January 29, 2007 8:27AM

is bbcardbuyer particular about the seller?
i think prices are peaking right now .
next year we'll have more collectors in our group too.
anyone interested in 85-90% factory set , cards have corner dings.

Stingray · January 29, 2007 8:20PM

That Matt Young PSA 10 (1/1) went for over $67.00??

rvc · January 29, 2007 9:15PM

i wonder what smills and bbcardbuyer are going to do with all those cards?

alnavman · January 30, 2007 7:34AM

$67 for Fergie Jenkins PSA 10.....wow

ldferg · January 30, 2007 7:37AM

isn't bbcardbuyer one of the guys that always has 93 refractors?

1984 Donruss Baseball - the unofficial but legal thread

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