<< <i>Nick and Paul, Thanks for the support. Despite the cost, the eBay path is providing a more frequent opportunity to upgrade slots (as Paul pointed out). It also turns out to be a lower cost than sending in submissions. For example, for every 1,000 new cards I look at from box rips, only 50 match the slots I need, and of those, only 1 in 10 are at a quality worthy of sending in. I'm currently getting about 35% of my submissions back in a 10 grade. So, in short, I can get 1 to 2 new slots upgraded for every 1,000 cards opened. At 360 cards per $500 wax pack box, it's about $750 to $1,000 per card to go that route (if you exclude the money I could recover by selling material I don't need). On the other hand, if I could get my hands on an unopened case, I'd have a lot more fun. Any idea where there may be a case laying around? Take care, Hatch >>
Hatch, I paid $2,700 for a rack case some 4 or 5 years ago I think it was. TONS of FUN. I got it from Steve Hart and it was pristine baby What a set you have. Only one of my cards is lucky enough to be there
Hatch, I paid $2,700 for a rack case some 4 or 5 years ago I think it was. TONS of FUN. I got it from Steve Hart and it was pristine baby What a set you have. Only one of my cards is lucky enough to be there
The last one in a recent REA auction went for close to 5K with juice...on a related note, has anyone noticed the increase in the prices for single 78 racks on ebay. For the longest time, you could buy them all day long at $35 per and lately they seem to be commanding almost 2x that price..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I think there's now 60 registry sets (in the '78 Topps) at over 10% completion, and of those, about 40 sets are under 50% completion. That suggests there's a lot of serious collectors that have made a pretty sizable commitment in time/money, but still have a long ways to go. Maybe that keeps the demand high. Not sure. Hatch
<< <i> Hatch, I paid $2,700 for a rack case some 4 or 5 years ago I think it was. TONS of FUN. I got it from Steve Hart and it was pristine baby What a set you have. Only one of my cards is lucky enough to be there
The last one in a recent REA auction went for close to 5K with juice...on a related note, has anyone noticed the increase in the prices for single 78 racks on ebay. For the longest time, you could buy them all day long at $35 per and lately they seem to be commanding almost 2x that price.. >>
I just pulled out my receipt from that purchase and it was in April 2005. It was for $2,800 bucks. I still have alot of super raw from the case that at the time I thought was not PSA 10 and borderline PSA 9 worthy. I was really really anal in those days. Too anal .....
Anyway, I think I pretty much broke even from the purchase, submissions to PSA, and the sale of some really good stuff on E-bay that at the time were low pop 9's and some great 10's. I am left with many cards in my dormant set and alot of great raw. Those were the days as today it seems I have more children than baseball cards
So I started this thread 4 months after I bought that rack case. What a trip going back and reading the initial pages. I have almost no recall of some of the posts I made and it was only 5 years ago !
I'm going to bump this for purely selfish reasons. I'm still hunting for a #508 Oates in 9 - if/when I land one, I'll be done with my Dodger set (straight 9s, homey). Thanks in advance if you can/will help.
....This Johnnie LeMaster was my hardest card to find in 9 or better for my retired psa registry set.
This week, I put this gem is up auction right on eBay. Bidding opened at $50.
I'm told a solid nine could reach up to $300. So registry people, bid your big arses off!
I ripped this beauty myself! And my eyeballs almost popped out when I first saw it! As I never saw any raw high end examples before. Usually, I saw LeMasters way off-centered!
There is well over 130 views already with a bunch of watchers, so I'm confident I'll do just fine with my current 1978 Johnny LeMaster PSA 9 ebay auction LINK: Johnnie LeMaster ebay auction. But no matter what, it was a thrill to find that raw LeMaster and then getting it graded via a "group sub", ... participating right here on the CU threads! And seeing the LeMaster come back a 9 was a great moment!
I was lucky early on with my '78 set building, as I picked-up a nice Chris Speier PSA 9, and never realized just how difficult it was to find a nice raw example, worth of a high grade from PSA!
<< <i>..... Thanks for youe encouragement, Michael!
There is well over 130 views already with a bunch of watchers, so I'm confident I'll do just fine with my current 1978 Johnny LeMaster PSA 9 ebay auction LINK: Johnnie LeMaster ebay auction. But no matter what, it was a thrill to find that raw LeMaster and then getting it graded via a "group sub", ... participating right here on the CU threads! And seeing the LeMaster come back a 9 was a great moment!
I was lucky early on with my '78 set building, as I picked-up a nice Chris Speier PSA 9, and never realized just how difficult it was to find a nice raw example, worth of a high grade from PSA!
Thanks....I was able to secure the Sanguillen, too. Somebody else bid above me, but then I received a 2nd chance offer. It's a bit surprising, and I hope it wasn't some sort of trick to find where my max bid was. I guess I shouldn't be suspicious...probably just a buyer having second thoughts. In any event, I'm happy to get a couple of cards closer....inch by inch
<< <i>Thanks....I was able to secure the Sanguillen, too. Somebody else bid above me, but then I received a 2nd chance offer. It's a bit surprising, and I hope it wasn't some sort of trick to find where my max bid was. I guess I shouldn't be suspicious...probably just a buyer having second thoughts. In any event, I'm happy to get a couple of cards closer....inch by inch >>
Good deal on the Sanguillen. Was there any idea who the "other" bidder on the first Sanguillen was ?
None the less , your set is very impressive. I have a "few" sets on the registry and one day hope to have a set as nice as your's.
On word and up word , they say.----- Sonny
" In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
I have a freshly popped #465 Hal McRae PSA 10. It is now a POP 2. I may keep it for my own set, but would be willing to sell if someone makes a strong enough offer. I won't have scans available until Monday night. Centering is dead-nuts all the way around on the front, and 60-40 to the right on the back.
**CARD IS SOLD**
'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.' -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
<< <i>A question for the 78 bunch. If you had to guess on what would be the last 78 card to drop in GEM MINT 10 what would it be?
I really don't follow the set much, but have opened a few wax boxes and broke a few sets.
I still think Carew 1st and Todd a distant 2nd.
Thoughts >>
#400 Nolan Ryan
1747 submitted with no 10s (set leading) >>
Paul , I don't actively collect 78's , but watch Hatch's progress eagerly. That Ryan card , when and if it ever pops . will be VERY expensive. I am so glad I not in the fight.--- Sonny
" In a time of universal deceit , telling the truth is a revolutionary act " --- George Orwell
Michael, ....it's actually my process of hoarding-by-mismanagement The common extras are in random boxes, mixed together with '60's, '70's, '80's and even '55 All-Americans...what a clutter. The stars and HoF'ers have been kept a bit more organized, but many of the 9's that show up in my "extra" inventory have been cracked open and resubmitted (I must enjoy inflicting punishment on myself because the PSA graders seem to find even more defects the second time around). Such a mess. Anyhow, someday, I'll find the time to organize the extras and delete the cards that have been resubmitted. By then, I hope the market value of these cards continues to climb, so my clutter is rewarded.
Congratulations again on reaching the milestone! Hatch
PSA 9's of almost every player on your list can be had for $15 or less. Go for the 9's; you won't regret it.
'Sir, I realize it's been difficult for you to sleep at night without your EX/MT 1977 Topps Tom Seaver, but I swear to you that you'll get it safe and sound.' -CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
@BBG, Thanks for the kind words. Also agree with your comment of Ryan being the last PSA 10 to drop. The graders know what it will fetch, and will be very tough on grading. Probably worth cracking and re-subbing a few 9's, but I bet one would get back 8's & 9's instead of 9's with a 10!
$865 is way overpriced for that box. Steve Hart used to sell them for $575 each and they were a lot nicer than that one which has seen some shelf wear.
I have a couple pristine 78 Topps boxes from a sealed case...I'd gladly sell one for that kind of coin!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
At 432 cards, they have a 5% to 10% chance of pulling any card below a Pop 3. Of those 40 cards, they've got maybe 2 that can grade out at a 10. And, if they can pull a couple of 10's out of that box that grade Pop 1 or Pop 2, they'll make a profit at any price under $1000/box.
....someday, when we can shake this crazy addiction we have, maybe we'll become more reasonable and stop paying $500 per "needed" card. In the meantime, while I'm still a '78 Topps addict, I sure hope they find a couple cards I need
$1100? Wow......good luck to whoever is bidding for that box. I hope you pull some great cards. Don't forget to call me first if you find a couple of Pop 1's ....sorry for posting that shameless and selfish request. (but, don't forget to contact me first...)
Insance....this auction is a seller's dream--bidders who refuse to be outbid.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@Seminolelaw, That could be me or Hatch looking for a better 10. (Although I have to admit I missed the Herrmann that Steve Kapper recently sold for $90 something.) edit
@Hatch, My last submission I got about 30% back as 10's out of 200 cards, so it really depends on the quality of the box! (Of course none that you or I needed!)
@grote15, I agree as I bought a number of boxes from Steve for around $500. Let us know when you want to sell!
I lost out on the Herrmann as well. It was a pop 3 and went for $90. While other shamless plugs are being presented, let me throw one out. I would love to have a Stennett or Lemaster in PSA 9 if someone has an extra one laying around. John.
Comments
Hatch
<< <i>Nick and Paul,
Thanks for the support. Despite the cost, the eBay path is providing a more frequent opportunity to upgrade slots (as Paul pointed out). It also turns out to be a lower cost than sending in submissions. For example, for every 1,000 new cards I look at from box rips, only 50 match the slots I need, and of those, only 1 in 10 are at a quality worthy of sending in. I'm currently getting about 35% of my submissions back in a 10 grade. So, in short, I can get 1 to 2 new slots upgraded for every 1,000 cards opened. At 360 cards per $500 wax pack box, it's about $750 to $1,000 per card to go that route (if you exclude the money I could recover by selling material I don't need). On the other hand, if I could get my hands on an unopened case, I'd have a lot more fun. Any idea where there may be a case laying around?
Take care,
Hatch >>
Hatch, I paid $2,700 for a rack case some 4 or 5 years ago I think it was. TONS of FUN. I got it from Steve Hart and it was pristine baby
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Hatch, I paid $2,700 for a rack case some 4 or 5 years ago I think it was. TONS of FUN. I got it from Steve Hart and it was pristine baby What a set you have. Only one of my cards is lucky enough to be there
The last one in a recent REA auction went for close to 5K with juice...on a related note, has anyone noticed the increase in the prices for single 78 racks on ebay. For the longest time, you could buy them all day long at $35 per and lately they seem to be commanding almost 2x that price..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I have complete Registry sets from the 50s, 60s and 70s, and over the past year or so, they have all dropped in value. With one exception.
My 1978 Topps Baseball
Hatch
<< <i>
Hatch, I paid $2,700 for a rack case some 4 or 5 years ago I think it was. TONS of FUN. I got it from Steve Hart and it was pristine baby What a set you have. Only one of my cards is lucky enough to be there
The last one in a recent REA auction went for close to 5K with juice...on a related note, has anyone noticed the increase in the prices for single 78 racks on ebay. For the longest time, you could buy them all day long at $35 per and lately they seem to be commanding almost 2x that price.. >>
I just pulled out my receipt from that purchase and it was in April 2005. It was for $2,800 bucks. I still have alot of super raw from the case that at the time I thought was not PSA 10 and borderline PSA 9 worthy. I was really really anal in those days. Too anal .....
Anyway, I think I pretty much broke even from the purchase, submissions to PSA, and the sale of some really good stuff on E-bay that at the time were low pop 9's and some great 10's. I am left with many cards in my dormant set and alot of great raw. Those were the days as today it seems I have more children than baseball cards
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
yikes .....
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Geordie
Dodgers collection scans | Brett Butler registry | 1978 Dodgers - straight 9s, homie
....This Johnnie LeMaster was my hardest card to find in 9 or better for my retired psa registry set.
This week, I put this gem is up auction right on eBay. Bidding opened at $50.
I'm told a solid nine could reach up to $300. So registry people, bid your big arses off!
I ripped this beauty myself! And my eyeballs almost popped out when I first saw it! As I never saw any raw high end examples before. Usually, I saw LeMasters way off-centered!
Link to my auction: 1978 LeMaster PSA 9!
rd
P.S. The happiest of holidays to all of you!
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
I have added the PSA 9 LeMaster to my set, but I am still waiting for the #221 Chris Speier in PSA 9 to replace the lone PSA 8 in my set.
Just submitted 200+ 1978 from vending on the November CC Special, so maybe I will get lucky as their is a couple of Speier's in the lot!
Cheers,
Michael (TGF Sports)
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
..... Thanks for youe encouragement, Michael!
There is well over 130 views already with a bunch of watchers, so I'm confident I'll do just fine with my current 1978 Johnny LeMaster PSA 9 ebay auction LINK: Johnnie LeMaster ebay auction. But no matter what, it was a thrill to find that raw LeMaster and then getting it graded via a "group sub", ... participating right here on the CU threads! And seeing the LeMaster come back a 9 was a great moment!
I was lucky early on with my '78 set building, as I picked-up a nice Chris Speier PSA 9, and never realized just how difficult it was to find a nice raw example, worth of a high grade from PSA!
I wish you lots of luck with your sub!
Happy holidays to all!
rd
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
<< <i>..... Thanks for youe encouragement, Michael!
There is well over 130 views already with a bunch of watchers, so I'm confident I'll do just fine with my current 1978 Johnny LeMaster PSA 9 ebay auction LINK: Johnnie LeMaster ebay auction. But no matter what, it was a thrill to find that raw LeMaster and then getting it graded via a "group sub", ... participating right here on the CU threads! And seeing the LeMaster come back a 9 was a great moment!
I was lucky early on with my '78 set building, as I picked-up a nice Chris Speier PSA 9, and never realized just how difficult it was to find a nice raw example, worth of a high grade from PSA!
I wish you lots of luck with your sub!
Happy holidays to all!
rd >>
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
Follow-up the PSA 1978 Johnnie LeMaster sold for: just under $130
rd
LINK: Johnnie LeMaster ebay auction
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
<< <i>Tough card to find....Good job. I'll be interested in seeing which set the card becomes added. >>
well, I'm motivated now!
think I'll look through my stacks of raw cards again!
I got Lemasters but I really doubt if I'll see another worthy of a 9 or 10?
when you find one, it just "pops out at ya"!
rd
Quicksilver Messenger Service - Smokestack Lightning (Live) 1968
Quicksilver Messenger Service - The Hat (Live) 1971
A COUPLE MORE PSA 10 1/1 CARDS FOR THE #1 SET !!!!!!!!!
Keep going Hatch !!! Absolutely amazing !!!
wpkoughan@yahoo.com
Collecting 1970-1979 PSA 9 & 10 Baseball Cards
<< <i>Just saw the update on the registry:
A COUPLE MORE PSA 10 1/1 CARDS FOR THE #1 SET !!!!!!!!!
Keep going Hatch !!! Absolutely amazing !!!
Hatch , WOW 2 more cards. What can be said that isn't known ? All I can say is
Hatch
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
<< <i>Thanks....I was able to secure the Sanguillen, too. Somebody else bid above me, but then I received a 2nd chance offer. It's a bit surprising, and I hope it wasn't some sort of trick to find where my max bid was. I guess I shouldn't be suspicious...probably just a buyer having second thoughts. In any event, I'm happy to get a couple of cards closer....inch by inch
Good deal on the Sanguillen. Was there any idea who the "other" bidder on the first Sanguillen was ?
None the less , your set is very impressive. I have a "few" sets on the registry and one day hope to have a set as nice as your's.
On word and up word , they say.----- Sonny
I won't have scans available until Monday night. Centering is dead-nuts all the way around on the front, and 60-40 to the right on the back.
**CARD IS SOLD**
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
PM Sent.
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
Tonyf
You did it!!!!! Gossage got you over the line....nice job.
Hatch
I really don't follow the set much, but have opened a few wax boxes and broke a few sets.
I still think
Carew 1st and Todd a distant 2nd.
Thoughts
1957 Topps 99% 7.40 GPA
Hank Aaron Basic PSA 7-8(75%)
<< <i>
<< <i>A question for the 78 bunch. If you had to guess on what would be the last 78 card to drop in GEM MINT 10 what would it be?
I really don't follow the set much, but have opened a few wax boxes and broke a few sets.
I still think
Carew 1st and Todd a distant 2nd.
Thoughts >>
#400 Nolan Ryan
1747 submitted with no 10s (set leading) >>
Paul , I don't actively collect 78's , but watch Hatch's progress eagerly. That Ryan card , when and if it ever pops . will be VERY expensive. I am so glad I not in the fight.--- Sonny
Thanks for the kudos. Got the McRae from Jason as well so that helped. Let me know when you want to get rid of those low pop dupes you are hoarding!
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
....it's actually my process of hoarding-by-mismanagement
Congratulations again on reaching the milestone!
Hatch
Yaz,Perry,Pete Rose,Stargell,Phil Niekro,Joe Morgan,Carlton,Tony Perez,Jim Palmer,Don Sutton,Carew,Seaver,Nolan Ryan,Bench,Fingers,Reggie Jackson,Blyleven,Fisk,Gossage,Winfield,
George Brett,Yount,Gary Carter,Jim Rice,Eckersley,Dawson,Sutter
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
<< <i>is looking for nice PSA 8's of these guys a losing battle?
Yaz,Perry,Pete Rose,Stargell,Phil Niekro,Joe Morgan,Carlton,Tony Perez,Jim Palmer,Don Sutton,Carew,Seaver,Nolan Ryan,Bench,Fingers,Reggie Jackson,Blyleven,Fisk,Gossage,Winfield,
George Brett,Yount,Gary Carter,Jim Rice,Eckersley,Dawson,Sutter >>
PSA 9's of almost every player on your list can be had for $15 or less. Go for the 9's; you won't regret it.
-CDs Nuts, 1/20/14
*1956 Topps baseball- 97.4% complete, 7.24 GPA
*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
<< <i>
Looks like Hatch just added another 2 cards to his monolith - only 46 more to go!
>>
Thanks Paul for the update.
Hatch , its getting harder to say WOW even louder. What a set !!! ---- Sonny
One day Hatch , if you had the time ( maybe sub it out ) , I'd love to see the whole set on the registry.
Hatch , your drive to the top continues
I have a couple pristine 78 Topps boxes from a sealed case...I'd gladly sell one for that kind of coin!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
....someday, when we can shake this crazy addiction we have, maybe we'll become more reasonable and stop paying $500 per "needed" card. In the meantime, while I'm still a '78 Topps addict, I sure hope they find a couple cards I need
Hatch
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
With these prices lately, might it be time to unload Saturday Night Fever?
Nick
@Hatch, My last submission I got about 30% back as 10's out of 200 cards, so it really depends on the quality of the box! (Of course none that you or I needed!)
@grote15, I agree as I bought a number of boxes from Steve for around $500. Let us know when you want to sell!
TGF Collection
TGF Sports
<< <i>I would love to have a Stennett or Lemaster in PSA 9 if someone has an extra one laying around. John. >>
LOL. And good luck.
I've been waiting for both of those for over 6 years!
Nick
<< <i>I would love to have a Stennett or Lemaster in PSA 9 if someone has an extra one laying around. >>
I'm sorry, only had a Stennett in PSA 10. I sold to Mr. G, and it now resides in Hatch's set. Glad it found a good home.