If anybody has a windfall and finds a bunch, please consider donating a set to the ANA Money Museum. Remember, your contributions are tax-deductable and highly valued by the public and collectors that visit the museum. Thanks . . . had to ask!
Lane
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Errormaven you are in fact correct. This was an unsubstantiated report from a unofficial source. I have my people working on it. When In fact I have more evidence that can be corroborated by three different sources, and if they will go on record I shall post here. Many apologizes. I am appalled at my actions and shall never attempt such nonsense again. At first opportunity I shall submit a retraction if the findings show that this report was in error.
The three dealers here in Tucson who have these quarters, Eagle Eye Rare Coins, Old Pueblo Coins and Tucson Coin and Autograph have run a joint ad in Coin World. Here are the prices we are asking. We will be selling dealer lots at a slight discount.
This thing is a almost two months old and new quantities are coming in smaller lots. The largest lot bought was 200 sets by me. The original discoverer has 60 sets which will be encapsulated by NGC with his signature as discovery sets. I am getting a good feeling every day that this will remain a local find and that no large quantities will surface. If so, the prices we are asking will be cheap, but of course, one never knows. It's exciting. I feel the $100 a set days on ebay (last week) are over. Here are the prices we are asking in our ad.
NGC sets of three in a single holder: MS-63 - $225 MS-64 - $299 MS-65 - $399 MS-66 - $699
I will be posting a web page on my site on Monday with up-to-the-minute and accurate information of the estimated populations of both certified and raw pieces. This is tough as some of the owners are rather coy about this. I truly believe that the more accurate information is out there, the better these will be recieved. If I am right and few new examples come to light, these prices will look like bargains a year from now. The entire amount found is presently much rarer than the certified population of the 3-legged buffalo (not taking into account the grades, of course).
While it would certainly be nice to know what caused these extra 'leaves', this has gained so much momentum that it's almost a moot point.
I will say this is exactly what variety collectors needed - an easy to see, repeatable (meaning more than one was struck this way) variety, something people can find in change or in rolls. With the move to single-squeze hubbing and Schuler presses, it was widely thought that the days of discovery and excitement were behind us. To me, this discovery still pales in comparison to the 2004 cent and nickel doubled dies, but then those are tough to see without a loupe.... and a bunch of dealers aren't submitting them to PCGS asking for coin numbers.
The hype surrounding this discovery reminds me a lot of 1995. The mad rush on banks for fresh material to search, the run-up of prices as material hits the market, different services falling over each others to be the first to list it... and of course, the media and marketing blitz. Frankly, the only difference I see between the WI high- and low-leaf varieties and the Bar-Wing Sacagawea Dollars (or the 'Pi$$ing Minuteman' MA quarters, for that matter) is the effectiveness of the marketing campaign.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
I didn't get that inference. AKrick asked if any were available for sale yet in the post just before.
Rick responded with information about the ad in Coin World. Seems like passing on factual material to me. Hopefully if he decides to solicit sales he will put up a notice in BST and with perhaps a link to this thread if BST posters wish to come here for more information.
This is kind of the numismatic discovery of the year, so I think a little leeway is appropriate as everyone is clamoring for more information on a daily basis.
It will be interesting to watch the pop reports for the first 60-90 days to see what happens. I also agree it will be interesting to see what grades these get coming from business strike rolls.
There are 169 for sale on e-bay between the two varieties right now, in lost sizes of 1 to 100. (Most are 3 variety sets.... counts as two since 1 is normal.)
It is the most dramatic and unusual die variety to come out of the Mint in 50 years.
It is certianly[sic] as dramatic and intresting[sic] as the 1937-D 3-legged Buffalo Nickel ....
We feel that the national collectors market, after actually seeing these coin[sic] for themselves will agree that these two varieties are the most exciting variety to come out of the Mint in our generation.
Puuuuuuuhhhhhhleaaaaaaase! Enough with the hyperbole. This is numismatic hype at its worst.
I don't think there will be strong general demand for these in the long term, such as that for the 3-legged Buffalo. Even non-collectors, if they see a 3-legged Buffalo nickel, likely sense something is amiss, since they know buffalo normally have 4 legs.
However, this leaf "error" cannot be understood by itself at one glance. With one example in hand only, the collector sees yet another mundane state quarter. Yes, intellectually, if you've already read about it, you'll understand what's wrong. But, even with comparative specimens present, one has to look back and forth repeatedly at curved leaves to get a sense of what's happened.
Comparative-type varieties just don't seem to have the same appeal as stand-alone types. This error is like the 1982 or 1970 Lincoln date size varieties.....just not that exciting compared to a 1955 or 1972 Doubled Die.
"A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes"--Hugh Downs
OK - a synopsis would be that the first 'big' variety has been found for the State Quarter series and a lot of folks are going 'goo goo ga ga' - Wisconsin 04. It is from the Denver mint only - altho someone has posted about a possible P mint being sent in for grading .... but this is probably an error? All coins have been found in AZ from bank rolls - not mint rolls? And these coins are now going for 'crazy money' on eBay and elsewhere. Is this all correct? I have read this thread, and tried to weed out the personal stuff. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am interested, but just trying to get things right.
While on the subject - does anyone know of any tweaks on any of the Texas 04 quarters? or any other state for that matter? and a possible link?
Thanks for all the information. Very interesting coins - the extra 'husk' leaf, that is. I am growing some this year and will tell you what kind of leaves I get.
<< <i>Does anyone on the board know the methodology at the mint for counting/packaging once the coins come off the presses? >>
The output from about four or five quad presses travels on conveyor belts where they are tranferred to jumbo (ballistic) bags. These are weighed rat- her than counted.
<< <i>Do a number of presses feed into a common area (scratching machine?) before they're counted and rolled? >>
There appear to be several filling stations for each denomination.
<< <i>Does the mint hold the dies for a period after coining or are they destroyed on some timely basis? >>
They used to be defaced and sent out periodically but this may have changed in more recent years.
<< <i>I wonder if its possible via freedom of information or some other means to find the dies used for striking these coins. >>
The mint is reasonably forthcoming with such information when it's available but it is usually not available.
These are fascinating varieties (or errors) and may command continued excitement on that basis. Whatever the cause it does appear to be intentional on some level. There appear to be some slight differences besides the "extra" leaves. If true then the implication is that these started much earlier in the production cycle. It will be in- teresting to see them in hand.
Less than 20% of the mintage has been released and it's entirely possible that vast numbers will turn up in storage.
I think, given time, my statement will stand up as a true indication of its importance.
The 3-legged buffalo was under-appreciated until it was hyped and promoted. Ken Bressett related that when he was offered a 55 DD Lincoln cent when it first came out he said something like: "25 cents! You must be crazy!"
We'll the market appreciates neat varieties much more today than before. Sure, these will mostly be in higher grades, but they will be a solid collector driven coin, and I'm positive it will be the key coin in the State-Quarter set. How many people put together a Buffalo Nickel set and leave out the 37-D 3-legged? Only the very low budget collectors.
"I'm positive it will be the key coin in the State-Quarter set"
Rick: Good luck with your coins.
Interestingly, in large part, Registry collectors, to date, have avoided the Silver Washington quarter varieties. For example, while there are (119) MS Silver Quarter Registry sets, there are only -20- with variety sets of which LESS THAN 10 SETS even contain 50% of the coins in the set! I never really understood this myself as, like Rick, I would think that cool varieties (such as 50D/S or S/D or 43(s) DDO quarters) would be quite important to Wash quarter collectors. Perhaps if this variety state quarter attracts a large collector pool, this might trickle over to Silver quarter varieties as well.
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<< <i>"I'm positive it will be the key coin in the State-Quarter set"
Rick: Good luck with your coins.
Interestingly, in large part, Registry collectors, to date, have avoided the Silver Washington quarter varieties. For example, while there are (119) MS Silver Quarter Registry sets, there are only -20- with variety sets of which LESS THAN 10 SETS even contain 50% of the coins in the set! I never really understood this myself as, like Rick, I would think that cool varieties (such as 50D/S or S/D or 43(s) DDO quarters) would be quite important to Wash quarter collectors. Perhaps if this variety state quarter attracts a large collector pool, this might trickle over to Silver quarter varieties as well.
Wondercoin >>
The silver Washingtons are from an era when varieties were seldom studied or collected. While they were available in circulation, there was little interest in them.
There is much more interest now days and information about them is much more widely available. It seems likely that interest will actually grow as time goes on and may well spread back to the earlier issues.
Okay, I'll come out of the closet and admit that I couldn't resist and purchased one of the NGC MS65 sets from Rick today. As everybody else out there, I don't know if this will be a good investment or not but like I said I couldn't resist. Don't have a SQ Registry set so I bought the NGC set with all three quarters in it. Feel that it is a very cool presentation of the 3 quarters. If another 2 million of these are found I'll always be able to bring them out, set the Grandkids on my lap and tell them the story of the 2004 Wisconsin quarter.
I live in Alaska but was born in Tucson, Arizona many many moons ago. Kind of nice to see my birthplace making headlines in the Coin World. Besides, nothing wrong with helping out the local economy of your original hometown.
In what appears to be an amazing leap of faith, eBay seller "thelordprovides," who is selling the "low leaf" variety in singles, fives and a group of 100, has raised the 100 coin minimum bid from $10,000 to $20,000.
Is there some divine voice that knows something about these coins that mortals do not?
I asked the seller the where he got them. here was his reply:
You asked: "where did you find these quarters if I may ask"
Howdy! I bought them from a coin store/jeweler in Tucson, Arizona. >>
What a coincidence! I got an email last night about my eBay auction for my set of quarters. They asked: "Where did you find these quarters if I may ask"
To which I responded: Howdy! I bought them from a coin store/jeweler in Tucson, Arizona.
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last. --Severian the Lame
Thanks to houtch2004 if you're a member. Sold my set BIN @ $247.50 in less than 24 hours at 2x what I paid for it 4 days ago.
I honestly think this is the error set to have from the state quarter series, and I don't think the prices will go anywhere but up.
But I don't collect errors or state quarters. And I got to experience the gold rush feel of the early hype. Still, there is something to the idea of seller's regret...
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last. --Severian the Lame
There's always a rush and a roar when a new variety comes out in Coin World. Remember all the excitement about the 1999 Gold American Eagle bullion MS coins that got the W mint mark? Remember the Type II 1998-1999-2000 Lincolns? They're always hot in the beginning, and those who have 'em jack up the prices as people gamble about their eventual rarity. Sometimes you win these, sometimes you lose. But a gamble it is!
All depends on whether a) you're interested in gambling at all, and b) whether you got the stomach for it.
In defense of Rick Snow's optomistic comments about the quarter's future popularity, I'd like to say that the majority of Statehood Quarter collectors haven't heard of these varieties yet. Not all collectors are online, not all of us get Coin World or read its every issue. And we don't check in with our fav dealer every week. As of yesterday, only half the dealers in my area know about them. I'd say half the Statehood collectors go to work 5-days a week, come home and spend their leisure time having nothing to do with coins whatsoever. Maybe a few times a year they visit the coin shops, dealers and flea markets in the area. They probably get coins sent to them from the mint or buy them off of EBay. I'd go so far to say that most Statehood Quarter collectors are mainly into collecting another type of coin and probably don't check anywhere for new varieties. So that leaves a lot of demand as yet unaccounted for! I had to have a set for my collection - bought them on EBay already and am awaiting delivery. If they are to be listed in The Redbook, then they'll be in demand by Statehood collectors everywhere to complete their set. It's like, you ain't got a complete set of Lincoln Cents unless you have a 1909-S VDB (or whatever!). You won't have a complete set of SHQ's until you have the Wisconsin Leaf Varieties. I can see the demand at least doubling after the rest of the Statehood Quarter collectors find out about this.
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<< <i>There's always a rush and a roar when a new variety comes out in Coin World. Remember all the excitement about the 1999 Gold American Eagle bullion MS coins that got the W mint mark? Remember the Type II 1998-1999-2000 Lincolns? They're always hot in the beginning, and those who have 'em jack up the prices as people gamble about their eventual rarity. Sometimes you win these, sometimes you lose. But a gamble it is!
All depends on whether a) you're interested in gambling at all, and b) whether you got the stomach for it. >>
Can anyone tell me what the price range of the 1995 double die Lincoln during the first few months after it was discovered...and the price now
Does anyone have any idea as to the popularity of collecting Statehood Quarters compared to collecting Pennies? Isn't the Statehood Quarter "Program" intended to start new people off in the hobby of collecting? Isn't it successful? Everywhere you look, don't you see statehood folders for sale to house your quarters. I see uncirculated quarters for sale in my bank, but I don't see them selling Pennies or other denominations. The Fed has pushed the Statehood program and a lot of us have jumped on the bandwagon - I think many more people than most of us realize.
Monster Wavy Steps Rule! - 1999, WSDDR-015, 1999P-1DR-003 - 2 known My EBay Store/Auctions
<< <i>Does anyone have any idea as to the popularity of collecting Statehood Quarters compared to collecting Pennies? Isn't the Statehood Quarter "Program" intended to start new people off in the hobby of collecting? Isn't it successful? Everywhere you look, don't you see statehood folders for sale to house your quarters. I see uncirculated quarters for sale in my bank, but I don't see them selling Pennies or other denominations. The Fed has pushed the Statehood program and a lot of us have jumped on the bandwagon - I think many more people than most of us realize. >>
I'm not disputing the popularity of the quarter program nor its success. My point is the crazy money that is chasing something that may or may not hold up, using the 1995 double die Lincoln as an example. There are more examples, 1964 pointed "9" dime, 1960 small date Lincoln, the 1995 Bugs Bunny Frankie, etc. etc, etc.
"Does anyone have any idea as to the popularity of collecting Statehood Quarters..."
My Dad will be 87 years old this year and he's been collecting Statehood quarters. Never collected coins until the SQ program. Sure there are millions of others out there doing the same thing. Wish he would've started collecting when he was a kid.
Yeah, I remember the craze for 1960 Small Dates. I remember helping my dad search through rolls for them in 1961. I was ten. It was a mad scramble for them at the time and dad said they were good as gold, but their bubble did finally burst. They were worth about $20 each uncirculated at the time. That was a lot of money in 1961.
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There will always be a rush when a new variety surfaces. The 1995 DD cent was indeed a rush, but then a couple bags were discovered. There are 20,000 examples certified! Even so it is still a $40 coin. It is a poor comparison because there is not even a hint of more than 1 -2000 of these quarters. I don't think the $200 sets on ebay are a risk at all (unless they have fingerprints).
I collect proof statehood quarters but I think the 3 piece NGC set is great. I bought a ms65 yesterday even though I like proof coins. Not much of a gamble.
how many of these coins have just not come to light yet. To say they were all in one shipment seems to be jumping the gun. Say 1000-1700 pieces total work great for selling but how do you come to that number so early in the game. Why would a die only be used for such a short term? Kinda got me wondering if estimate are a marketing ploy rather than a firm belief. Just because in this shipment only this estimated number is being found, what about other shipments not yet checked. I'm sorry if I disagree but I find it hard to believe a die would just be used for such a short term. Maybe you can give me a reason. Just my two and half cents.
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If anybody has a windfall and finds a bunch, please consider donating a set to the ANA Money Museum. Remember, your contributions are tax-deductable and highly valued by the public and collectors that visit the museum. Thanks . . . had to ask!
Lane
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Cameron Kiefer
Cameron Kiefer
Faithfully submitted,
Tbig
It seems most are falling in to MS65 and MS66 grade right now.
Examples known in the hands of all dealers in Tucson and a few others:
High leaf: 1,000
Low Leaf: 1,700
perhaps 400 sets are off to NGC, and another 400 sets to PCGS. Again, this is not just mine, but all the dealers involved in Tucson.
<< <i>Here is the first of the NGC sets. >>
Cool, are any of these available for sale yet?
The three dealers here in Tucson who have these quarters, Eagle Eye Rare Coins, Old Pueblo Coins and Tucson Coin and Autograph have run a joint ad in Coin World. Here are the prices we are asking. We will be selling dealer lots at a slight discount.
This thing is a almost two months old and new quantities are coming in smaller lots. The largest lot bought was 200 sets by me. The original discoverer has 60 sets which will be encapsulated by NGC with his signature as discovery sets. I am getting a good feeling every day that this will remain a local find and that no large quantities will surface. If so, the prices we are asking will be cheap, but of course, one never knows. It's exciting. I feel the $100 a set days on ebay (last week) are over. Here are the prices we are asking in our ad.
NGC sets of three in a single holder:
MS-63 - $225
MS-64 - $299
MS-65 - $399
MS-66 - $699
PCGS singles:
Extra Leaf Low:
MS-63 - $99
MS-64 - $125
MS-65 - $199
MS-66 - $299
Extra Leaf high:
MS-63 - $149
MS-64 - $249
MS-65 - $325
MS-66 - $449
I will be posting a web page on my site on Monday with up-to-the-minute and accurate information of the estimated populations of both certified and raw pieces. This is tough as some of the owners are rather coy about this. I truly believe that the more accurate information is out there, the better these will be recieved. If I am right and few new examples come to light, these prices will look like bargains a year from now. The entire amount found is presently much rarer than the certified population of the 3-legged buffalo (not taking into account the grades, of course).
<< <i> Here are the prices we are asking in our ad.
NGC sets of three in a single holder:
MS-63 - $225
MS-64 - $299
MS-65 - $399
MS-66 - $699
PCGS singles:
Extra Leaf Low:
MS-63 - $99
MS-64 - $125
MS-65 - $199
MS-66 - $299
Extra Leaf high:
MS-63 - $149
MS-64 - $249
MS-65 - $325
MS-66 - $449
>>
I hope my grampa can find me some!
"Live long and prosper"
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Cameron Kiefer
I will say this is exactly what variety collectors needed - an easy to see, repeatable (meaning more than one was struck this way) variety, something people can find in change or in rolls. With the move to single-squeze hubbing and Schuler presses, it was widely thought that the days of discovery and excitement were behind us. To me, this discovery still pales in comparison to the 2004 cent and nickel doubled dies, but then those are tough to see without a loupe.... and a bunch of dealers aren't submitting them to PCGS asking for coin numbers.
The hype surrounding this discovery reminds me a lot of 1995. The mad rush on banks for fresh material to search, the run-up of prices as material hits the market, different services falling over each others to be the first to list it... and of course, the media and marketing blitz. Frankly, the only difference I see between the WI high- and low-leaf varieties and the Bar-Wing Sacagawea Dollars (or the 'Pi$$ing Minuteman' MA quarters, for that matter) is the effectiveness of the marketing campaign.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
I didn't get that inference. AKrick asked if any were available for sale yet in the post just before.
Rick responded with information about the ad in Coin World. Seems like passing on factual material to me. Hopefully if he decides to solicit sales he will put up a notice in BST and with perhaps a link to this thread if BST posters wish to come here for more information.
This is kind of the numismatic discovery of the year, so I think a little leeway is appropriate as everyone is clamoring for more information on a daily basis.
It will be interesting to watch the pop reports for the first 60-90 days to see what happens. I also agree it will be interesting to see what grades these get coming from business strike rolls.
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<< <i>Now we are selling them here?
Cameron Kiefer >>
As stated, it was a repeat of an earlier post. Where was your comment then?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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Cameron Kiefer
Cameron Kiefer
It is the most dramatic and unusual die variety to come out of the Mint in 50 years.
It is certianly[sic] as dramatic and intresting[sic] as the 1937-D 3-legged Buffalo Nickel ....
We feel that the national collectors market, after actually seeing these coin[sic] for themselves will agree that these two varieties are the most exciting variety to come out of the Mint in our generation.
Puuuuuuuhhhhhhleaaaaaaase! Enough with the hyperbole. This is numismatic hype at its worst.
I don't think there will be strong general demand for these in the long term, such as that for the 3-legged Buffalo.
Even non-collectors, if they see a 3-legged Buffalo nickel, likely sense something is amiss, since they know buffalo normally have 4 legs.
However, this leaf "error" cannot be understood by itself at one glance. With one example in hand only, the collector sees yet another mundane state quarter. Yes, intellectually, if you've already read about it, you'll understand what's wrong. But, even with comparative specimens present, one has to look back and forth repeatedly at curved leaves to get a sense of what's happened.
Comparative-type varieties just don't seem to have the same appeal as stand-alone types. This error is like the 1982 or 1970 Lincoln date size varieties.....just not that exciting compared to a 1955 or 1972 Doubled Die.
While on the subject - does anyone know of any tweaks on any of the Texas 04 quarters? or any other state for that matter? and a possible link?
Thanks for all the information. Very interesting coins - the extra 'husk' leaf, that is. I am growing some this year and will tell you what kind of leaves I get.
Pam
<< <i>Does anyone on the board know the methodology at the mint for counting/packaging once the coins come off the presses? >>
The output from about four or five quad presses travels on conveyor belts
where they are tranferred to jumbo (ballistic) bags. These are weighed rat-
her than counted.
<< <i>Do a number of presses feed into a common area (scratching machine?) before they're counted and rolled? >>
There appear to be several filling stations for each denomination.
<< <i>Does the mint hold the dies for a period after coining or are they destroyed on some timely basis? >>
They used to be defaced and sent out periodically but this may have changed
in more recent years.
<< <i>I wonder if its possible via freedom of information or some other means to find the dies used for striking these coins. >>
The mint is reasonably forthcoming with such information when it's available but
it is usually not available.
These are fascinating varieties (or errors) and may command continued excitement
on that basis. Whatever the cause it does appear to be intentional on some level.
There appear to be some slight differences besides the "extra" leaves. If true then
the implication is that these started much earlier in the production cycle. It will be in-
teresting to see them in hand.
Less than 20% of the mintage has been released and it's entirely possible that vast
numbers will turn up in storage.
Pines: Welcome aboard.
I think, given time, my statement will stand up as a true indication of its importance.
The 3-legged buffalo was under-appreciated until it was hyped and promoted. Ken Bressett related that when he was offered a 55 DD Lincoln cent when it first came out he said something like: "25 cents! You must be crazy!"
We'll the market appreciates neat varieties much more today than before. Sure, these will mostly be in higher grades, but they will be a solid collector driven coin, and I'm positive it will be the key coin in the State-Quarter set. How many people put together a Buffalo Nickel set and leave out the 37-D 3-legged? Only the very low budget collectors.
Rick: Good luck with your coins.
Interestingly, in large part, Registry collectors, to date, have avoided the Silver Washington quarter varieties. For example, while there are (119) MS Silver Quarter Registry sets, there are only -20- with variety sets of which LESS THAN 10 SETS even contain 50% of the coins in the set! I never really understood this myself as, like Rick, I would think that cool varieties (such as 50D/S or S/D or 43(s) DDO quarters) would be quite important to Wash quarter collectors. Perhaps if this variety state quarter attracts a large collector pool, this might trickle over to Silver quarter varieties as well.
Wondercoin
<< <i>Hey, Notlogical, if you write an article about these quarters in a state or regonal coin club I'll send you a free set. >>
Thanks!!! PM sent to ask for details!
"Live long and prosper"
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<< <i>"I'm positive it will be the key coin in the State-Quarter set"
Rick: Good luck with your coins.
Interestingly, in large part, Registry collectors, to date, have avoided the Silver Washington quarter varieties. For example, while there are (119) MS Silver Quarter Registry sets, there are only -20- with variety sets of which LESS THAN 10 SETS even contain 50% of the coins in the set! I never really understood this myself as, like Rick, I would think that cool varieties (such as 50D/S or S/D or 43(s) DDO quarters) would be quite important to Wash quarter collectors. Perhaps if this variety state quarter attracts a large collector pool, this might trickle over to Silver quarter varieties as well.
Wondercoin >>
The silver Washingtons are from an era when varieties were seldom studied or
collected. While they were available in circulation, there was little interest in them.
There is much more interest now days and information about them is much more
widely available. It seems likely that interest will actually grow as time goes on and
may well spread back to the earlier issues.
Tom
I live in Alaska but was born in Tucson, Arizona many many moons ago. Kind of nice to see my birthplace making headlines in the Coin World. Besides, nothing wrong with helping out the local economy of your original hometown.
Rick
I asked the seller the where he got them. here was his reply:
You asked:
"where did you find these quarters if I may ask"
Howdy! I bought them from a coin store/jeweler in Tucson, Arizona.
variety in singles, fives and a group of 100, has raised the 100 coin minimum bid from $10,000 to $20,000.
Is there some divine voice that knows something about these coins that mortals do not?
<< <i>Found this auction from illinois
I asked the seller the where he got them. here was his reply:
You asked:
"where did you find these quarters if I may ask"
Howdy! I bought them from a coin store/jeweler in Tucson, Arizona. >>
What a coincidence! I got an email last night about my eBay auction for my set of quarters. They asked: "Where did you find these quarters if I may ask"
To which I responded:
Howdy! I bought them from a coin store/jeweler in Tucson, Arizona.
--Severian the Lame
Yes. The voice knows that some coins are expensive merely because they are expensive. Thereafter, they are expensive.
I honestly think this is the error set to have from the state quarter series, and I don't think the prices will go anywhere but up.
But I don't collect errors or state quarters. And I got to experience the gold rush feel of the early hype. Still, there is something to the idea of seller's regret...
--Severian the Lame
All depends on whether a) you're interested in gambling at all, and b) whether you got the stomach for it.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
My EBay Store/Auctions
<< <i>There's always a rush and a roar when a new variety comes out in Coin World. Remember all the excitement about the 1999 Gold American Eagle bullion MS coins that got the W mint mark? Remember the Type II 1998-1999-2000 Lincolns? They're always hot in the beginning, and those who have 'em jack up the prices as people gamble about their eventual rarity. Sometimes you win these, sometimes you lose. But a gamble it is!
All depends on whether a) you're interested in gambling at all, and b) whether you got the stomach for it. >>
Can anyone tell me what the price range of the 1995 double die Lincoln during the first few months after it was discovered...and the price now
Isn't the Statehood Quarter "Program" intended to start new people off in the hobby of collecting? Isn't it successful? Everywhere you look, don't you see statehood folders for sale to house your quarters. I see uncirculated quarters for sale in my bank, but I don't see them selling Pennies or other denominations. The Fed has pushed the Statehood program and a lot of us have jumped on the bandwagon - I think many more people than most of us realize.
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<< <i>Does anyone have any idea as to the popularity of collecting Statehood Quarters compared to collecting Pennies?
Isn't the Statehood Quarter "Program" intended to start new people off in the hobby of collecting? Isn't it successful? Everywhere you look, don't you see statehood folders for sale to house your quarters. I see uncirculated quarters for sale in my bank, but I don't see them selling Pennies or other denominations. The Fed has pushed the Statehood program and a lot of us have jumped on the bandwagon - I think many more people than most of us realize. >>
I'm not disputing the popularity of the quarter program nor its success. My point is the crazy money that is chasing something that may or may not hold up, using the 1995 double die Lincoln as an example. There are more examples, 1964 pointed "9" dime, 1960 small date Lincoln, the 1995 Bugs Bunny Frankie, etc. etc, etc.
My Dad will be 87 years old this year and he's been collecting Statehood quarters. Never collected coins until the SQ program. Sure there are millions of others out there doing the same thing. Wish he would've started collecting when he was a kid.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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I collect proof statehood quarters but I think the 3 piece NGC set is great. I bought a ms65 yesterday even though I like proof coins. Not much of a gamble.
To say they were all in one shipment seems to be jumping
the gun. Say 1000-1700 pieces total work great for selling
but how do you come to that number so early in the game.
Why would a die only be used for such a short term?
Kinda got me wondering if estimate are a marketing ploy
rather than a firm belief. Just because in this shipment only
this estimated number is being found, what about other shipments
not yet checked. I'm sorry if I disagree but I find it hard to
believe a die would just be used for such a short term.
Maybe you can give me a reason.
Just my two and half cents.
Smitty