Coins and WIVES can be a deadly mix. I had one client whose wife forced him to stop buying expensive/good coins. The sad part was that last piece that she forced him to pass upon, a Bust silver dollar in PCGS EF-45, more than doubled in value in the year following to time she forced him to throw up the deal.
Conversely I knew a veteran collector, who has since passed on, whose wife regretted that he had not bought MORE coins. When he was selling his collection, which consisted mostly of early copper coins, the returns on his purchases were so large that she lamented the fact that they did not have more to sell.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Easy question, hard to answer. Its hard to answer because women are unpredictable. With that variable in the mix, you can never know what is always the 100% right thing to do at any given time. Sometimes you'll always be wrong... Based on my experience: 1.) Never give up any hobby for any woman, no matter how good she is, pretty she is, or what ever else may compel you to change. This would be excepting something dangerous like drag racing or jumping from airplanes. Its not fair to her to have to accept that fact that you may kill yourself needlessly. 2.) Strike a fair balance between your love life and your personal life. Treat her good, and take her out and enjoy yourself, and have fun. But on the other hand you have a right to enjoy your interest, and spend some money on yourself. 3.) If she is the type of girl who wants all of your attention, all of your time, and wants you to spend your every spare cent on her, then dump her and move on.
You know what would be funny, and probably a real education? Having all you guy's wives and girlfriends start 1 thread here about what it's like to be married to a coin guy. (and husbands of coin girls are also welcome) I bet we'd have quite an education! And maybe encourage a bit of communication and spread the change around.
The flip side of the coin is, I've never met a dealer I'd want my daughter to meet!
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
you may as well spend your coin money on the girl. because once you get married and have little kiefers it all goes on them you really won't have a lot of money for coins until the kids are grown.
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Michael said, also do you know of any young women that are beteeen the ages of 24 and 37 who are slender pretty and employed living on their own completely supporting themselves and not with any mental health related problems nor on medication for such, and not living with their mother, whom might be interested in an older mid's 40;s white man that is a rreally nice sweet fantastic person on the inside but not so hot on the outside? who cant give them anything financially but can give love and kindness and understanding and also is not in the best of health but can take care of himself
You've a better chance of a 33 Saint G flying out yer but.........
<< <i>Above all, have her pay for part of the expenses for dating. The days of women getting treated to everything went out with equal rights. If she won't pay, then she probably isn't a keeper. If she's not a keeper, your coins probably are. >>
Great points Greg. She did want to pay half for the dance tickets. I guess I could let her pay half.
<< <i>Above all, have her pay for part of the expenses for dating. The days of women getting treated to everything went out with equal rights. If she won't pay, then she probably isn't a keeper. If she's not a keeper, your coins probably are. >>
Great points Greg. She did want to pay half for the dance tickets. I guess I could let her pay half.
Cameron Kiefer >>
Bad advice Greg, chivalry is not dead at my house. Cameron, be a man and pay for the dance, pay for the dinner, pay for whatever. If she is a keeper, you will get it all back ten-fold. Trust me. Joe
This is a great thread lol! My advice is to keep the girl AND the coins. When you get bored with her, you've still got your coins!
And when you get married (to whoever it is), just remember this: If she works full time and likes her job, that equals more access to cash to buy more coins, so in essence, she will help grow your collection in the future!! But DONT tell her that........
It would make a good movie. Everyone has different views.
The dance was fun, and she bought the tickets. I bought dinner and pictures. We had a great time and danced for several hours. Going out again next weekend, and I think I will show her my coin collection. Will post the results and any good girl quotes about coin collecting.
One month has already gone by, and felt it was time for an update. The predictions about stopping coin collecting never surfaced and I am still at it full force. I knew that wouldn't happen. If anything, I have bought a few less coins in the last month but otherwise everything is the same.
She actually is interested in coins and after I attended the Santa Clara coin show she was asking questions about what it was like and if I got anything for my collection. Other than that, not much is new. Another update in 2 months (Jan 29, 2003).
now, on to this topic. Point one - for what it is worth:
My first wife made off with a great deal of coins when we separated. She knew where they were, she knew what they were. In court she denied having taken them. It was up to me to prove I ever owned them. Seeing as how it was 1978, it was a little tougher then. No luck.
Point Two:
Devote part of the effort you spend on your girlfriend and part of the effort you spend on coins to expanding your skills to increase your earning power. If I knew at 24 what I know at 49, I would have retired nine years ago. If I know at 49 what I am going to know at 65, I would never have typed this response.
"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather did, as opposed to screaming in terror like his passengers."
Yes, wives and girl friends can be deadly to your collecting dreams.
I lost a customer because his wife complained that he was spending too much money on expensive coins. The trouble was the coin she forced him to pass upon was a beautiful Bust Dollar in PCGS EF-45. Today he could have doubled his money in less than four years if he had bought that coin. He had also purchased the 1932-D and S Washington quarters in MS-64 BEFORE the prices were run up to today's levels. On those he could MORE THAN double his money. To his wife, however, cars and wide screen TVs were great investments.
Some wives just can't understand that coins, unlike other hobbies, can add to your family's net worth if one buys with a certain amount of intelligence.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I haven't read through all of the posts in this thread, but I did gather something about a "dance" telling me the originator of the post is a teen in high school. For God's sake don't bother trying to get serious over anyone and go changing your life for a teenage girl...wait for that until you're more like 25. Collect coins and enjoy the dates with the girls but don't bother trying to understand the "love" thing. You're too young for it. By all means don't quit what you enjoy for some wishy-washy girl who might not care whether you breathe next week. They're all pretty much like that at that age.
And yes, I expect denial, I expect to hear it's not like that. They all say that. They all think their situation is different from any other teenager. BTW, I'm old enough to be the father of a teenager although luckily enough my only son is just 6 years old. I have some time to get my tact together before having to explain this to a teen of my own.
At any rate, whatever you decide, listen well and you'll always pick the right path. Listen to those you can respect, but always make your own decisions. I wish you the best. I wish I had it all to do over.
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Conversely I knew a veteran collector, who has since passed on, whose wife regretted that he had not bought MORE coins. When he was selling his collection, which consisted mostly of early copper coins, the returns on his purchases were so large that she lamented the fact that they did not have more to sell.
Neil
If you open your eyes tell me if there were ever any girls you met at a coin show that you wanted to take to a harvest dance?
Don't share your girlfriend with any coin dealer !!!!
Stewart
I hate it when you see my post before I can edit the spelling.
Always looking for nice type coins
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also do you know of any young women that are beteeen the ages of 24 and 37 who are slender pretty and employed living on their own completely supporting themselves and not with any mental health related problems nor on medication for such, and not living with their mother,
whom might be interested in an older mid's 40;s white man that is a rreally nice sweet fantastic person on the inside but not so hot on the outside? who cant give them anything financially but can give love and kindness and understanding and also is not in the best of health but can take care of himself
You've a better chance of a 33 Saint G flying out yer but.........
<< <i>Above all, have her pay for part of the expenses for dating. The days of women getting treated to everything went out with equal rights. If she won't pay, then she probably isn't a keeper. If she's not a keeper, your coins probably are. >>
Great points Greg. She did want to pay half for the dance tickets. I guess I could let her pay half.
Cameron Kiefer
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<< <i>Above all, have her pay for part of the expenses for dating. The days of women getting treated to everything went out with equal rights. If she won't pay, then she probably isn't a keeper. If she's not a keeper, your coins probably are. >>
Great points Greg. She did want to pay half for the dance tickets. I guess I could let her pay half.
Cameron Kiefer >>
Bad advice Greg, chivalry is not dead at my house. Cameron, be a man and pay for the dance, pay for the dinner, pay for whatever. If she is a keeper, you will get it all back ten-fold. Trust me.
Joe
And when you get married (to whoever it is), just remember this:
If she works full time and likes her job, that equals more access to cash to buy more coins, so in essence, she will help grow your collection in the future!! But DONT tell her that........
Good luck and have fun!
Bill
The dance was fun, and she bought the tickets. I bought dinner and pictures. We had a great time and danced for several hours. Going out again next weekend, and I think I will show her my coin collection. Will post the results and any good girl quotes about coin collecting.
Cameron Kiefer
She actually is interested in coins and after I attended the Santa Clara coin show she was asking questions about what it was like and if I got anything for my collection. Other than that, not much is new. Another update in 2 months (Jan 29, 2003).
Cameron Kiefer
<< <i>Cool - Cam scored this morning!
LMAO Frank!
now, on to this topic. Point one - for what it is worth:
My first wife made off with a great deal of coins when we separated. She knew where they were, she knew what they were. In court she denied having taken them. It was up to me to prove I ever owned them. Seeing as how it was 1978, it was a little tougher then. No luck.
Point Two:
Devote part of the effort you spend on your girlfriend and part of the effort you spend on coins to expanding your skills to increase your earning power. If I knew at 24 what I know at 49, I would have retired nine years ago. If I know at 49 what I am going to know at 65, I would never have typed this response.
I lost a customer because his wife complained that he was spending too much money on expensive coins. The trouble was the coin she forced him to pass upon was a beautiful Bust Dollar in PCGS EF-45. Today he could have doubled his money in less than four years if he had bought that coin. He had also purchased the 1932-D and S Washington quarters in MS-64 BEFORE the prices were run up to today's levels. On those he could MORE THAN double his money. To his wife, however, cars and wide screen TVs were great investments.
Some wives just can't understand that coins, unlike other hobbies, can add to your family's net worth if one buys with a certain amount of intelligence.
And yes, I expect denial, I expect to hear it's not like that. They all say that. They all think their situation is different from any other teenager. BTW, I'm old enough to be the father of a teenager although luckily enough my only son is just 6 years old. I have some time to get my tact together before having to explain this to a teen of my own.
At any rate, whatever you decide, listen well and you'll always pick the right path. Listen to those you can respect, but always make your own decisions. I wish you the best. I wish I had it all to do over.
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