regional airports have smaller planes and smaller overhead bins
large? did they rebuild ontario? i went through there 20 years ago and they had 2 escalators up to the gates and 2 metal detectors (one of which did not detect my half pound of change in my pocket)
For Winter FUN that just passed, I stayed at the Orlando Hilton (one of the two hotels closest to the Convention Center). I believe the rate arranged through FUN was only around $215 or so. But then there’s taxes added on.
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
I should probably keep my mouth shut. I have never been to a coin show and I am not that smart, but every time I see one of these convention posts I think of my friend Dwayne. He owns a Livestock Auction Barn. A couple times a year they have what is called a producers show. At a producer show they require every producer to do the following. They have to bring a few of their best stock (cattle, horses, pigs , lambs etc.) to the show. They have the animals on exhibit at the barn but the animals are also part of a live internet auction that identifies each producer and where his exhibit is.
This approach means individual producers are identified in the live internet but you also have the opportunity of attending and walking the barn or ;being able to participate online. I think it is a great marriage of the internet to the self promoting aspects of the actual show. James
For Winter FUN that just passed, I stayed at the Orlando Hilton (one of the two hotels closest to the Convention Center). I believe the rate arranged through FUN was only around $215 or so.
I always stay at the Rosen Centre - the basic rate for the FUN show is $198 (plus the addons). It's convenient to the Convention Center plus it has a Walgreens Pharmacy right across the street along with several restaurants.
I went to my first Long Beach in June1980.
Didn't go for a few years then regularly beginning February 1985 until the Covid close down. Last time I attended was October 2021.
Too bad things have evolved to where they are now. Some of my best memories are from the Long Beach shows over the years. ( A side note: The Santa Clara shows were really enjoyable as the buying could be very good.)
The showrunners should consider moving it to Phoenix around spring training. It's roughly 5 1/2 hours distance from Long Beach and Las Vegas, will be more affordable and the weather will be fantastic in February/ March.
Inland empire is growing like the san fernado valley!!
Lived in Reseda for over 31 years. I was a fixture at LB for many years, back then it was a great show, 4 times a year.
Left CA in 2015 and never looked back.
I only remember three shows a year (back to the 80’s?) in February, June and September. How long ago were there four?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Inland empire is growing like the san fernado valley!!
Lived in Reseda for over 31 years. I was a fixture at LB for many years, back then it was a great show, 4 times a year.
Left CA in 2015 and never looked back.
I only remember three shows a year (back to the 80’s?) in February, June and September. How long ago were there four?
He may be thinking of the fairly large foreign/world show that was held at the Beach in December(?) back in the day.
I calculated that I have spent well over a year of my life in Long Beach hotels -- others have easily exceeded that milestone.
So many memories. The June 2005 Long Beach Expo was my first coin show. I worked there for many, many years, and have lots of good memories schmoozing with dealers and my colleagues on the show floor. Here's my goofy exhibitor badge.
Phil Arnold Director of Photography, GreatCollections
greatcollections.com
I think the obvious solution to things is to have multiple shows in more of the most expensive venues in some of the most expensive cities, that way all the dealers and "clients" can feel good about themselves and celebrate their wealth. It's absolutely ridiculous anymore and why I gave up on attending major regional/national shows almost 20 years ago. As a collector of modest means I simply could not justify spending $1,500-$2,000 to possibly be able to purchase something. Things have just gotten too cost prohibitive.
Reading many of the replies describes a beast which has decided to cannibalize itself for the good of nobody.
@krueger said:
Large Ontario convention center
Right Next to large regional ontario airport
Lots of hotels and eateries
Everything much cheaper!!!!
35 miles from downtown LA.
Why they have not gone there yet is amazing. Everything In their back yard.
Beach areas getting way to expensiive.
Inland empire is growing like the san fernado valley!!
Look into it PCGS——
They had a show there 10-12 years ago and thought it was a dud from what I remember.
Although, things could change without LB.
Early Thursday flight from OAK to LGB
Uber to the Convention to be there for the 10 AM opening
Peruse the show for approximately two - three hours (pick-ups, drop-offs, purchases, etc)
Grab some lunch at Naree Thai on Ocean Blvd
Back to the show for a couple hours
Uber back to LGB
Late afternoon flight from LGB to OAK
Home in time for dinner
I've been attending Long Beach for many years. Met JOM (and others) there a number of times. Met Walter Breen and bought his Coin Encyclopedia there as well as Bill Noyes and bought one of his books on Large Cents. The energy level is definitely not what it was in the 1990s.
That said, it's a 1/2 hour drive, and the only larger show around here. I stopped attending local shows because they just didn't have enough material that interested me. I get so see some of my favorite people in the hobby at Long Beach, and unless I got on a plane and traveled to another location to attend a show, I'd never see them.
I don't buy / sell enough to get on a plane, take a number of days out my my schedule, and travel to a show. If Long Beach goes adios, someone who offers me a coin will have to send it to someone I trust, or see them at a show for them to inspect the coin and get back to me. Don't like buying with a return privilege, and will never buy a coin sight unseen.
Also, if you're looking at what for you is an expensive coin, you really need to see it in hand, or have someone you trust see it for you. Images don't tell the whole story. Don't get me started on that.
Some people are buying pretty and expensive coins that are not original. I don't want these coins. You need to see many coins to develop this knowledge and be able to make this determination. At a largish show, if you know people, someone you trust can give you a second opinion by looking at said coin.
Just a thought: I work and live near LAX. There are a huge slew of Airport Hotels on Century Boulevard and nearby. I don't know what are their seasonal occupancy rates and pricing. But surely most could accommodate a coin show the size of Long Beach. And I imagine they could offer reasonable rates outside of the tourist season. You can catch a shuttle directly to pretty much any / all of these hotels from the arrival terminal at LAX.
"Vou invadir o Nordeste, "Seu cabra da peste, "Sou Mangueira......."
@pointfivezero said:
I'll miss the show. Just had my routine down:
Early Thursday flight from OAK to LGB
Uber to the Convention to be there for the 10 AM opening
Peruse the show for approximately two - three hours (pick-ups, drop-offs, purchases, etc)
Grab some lunch at Naree Thai on Ocean Blvd
Back to the show for a couple hours
Uber back to LGB
Late afternoon flight from LGB to OAK
Home in time for dinner
Tim
It's a shame you made such a terrible mistake for many years as the clear winner for lunch is Sura Korean BBQ on Atlantic.
@Elcontador I like your idea in theory but ugh LAX....just miserable. LGB is such a nice change of pace from a big airport. I prefer the Ontario option mentioned earlier.
@PhilArnold said:
So many memories. The June 2005 Long Beach Expo was my first coin show. I worked there for many, many years, and have lots of good memories schmoozing with dealers and my colleagues on the show floor. Here's my goofy exhibitor badge.
Then what did you look like after you got the GC job?
@Mr_Colombo said:
The showrunners should consider moving it to Phoenix around spring training. It's roughly 5 1/2 hours distance from Long Beach and Las Vegas, will be more affordable and the weather will be fantastic in February/ March.
And no sales tax on coins. I was looking into a group to create an annual or semiannual (Spring/Fall) show there, but I probably am going to disengage for a while soon enough. Still a possibility.
Bummer. I’ve been to many shows, but probably over half that I’ve attended were at Long Beach. The old auctions were great. Like others have said, it was an easy day or two-day trip for me to the LGB airport. Many good memories.
Inland empire is growing like the san fernado valley!!
Lived in Reseda for over 31 years. I was a fixture at LB for many years, back then it was a great show, 4 times a year.
Left CA in 2015 and never looked back.
I only remember three shows a year (back to the 80’s?) in February, June and September. How long ago were there four?
@Elcontador said:
I've been attending Long Beach for many years. Met JOM (and others) there a number of times. Met Walter Breen and bought his Coin Encyclopedia there as well as Bill Noyes and bought one of his books on Large Cents. The energy level is definitely not what it was in the 1990s.
Yeah, this is a real bummer but I do understand the issues. I really do miss the "good ol' days". Seeing you, Margulis, Braddick and all the rest. This is such a shame but the slow fall off before COVID and the rapid fall off since made this inevitable.
PCGS --- Dont forget the Anahiem convention center and associated tons of hotels eateries
Angel stadium extremely close as is Disneyland. Safe area!
Confluenses of freeway access.
Finding another location cheaper in the area should be no problem.
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regional airports have smaller planes and smaller overhead bins
large? did they rebuild ontario? i went through there 20 years ago and they had 2 escalators up to the gates and 2 metal detectors (one of which did not detect my half pound of change in my pocket)
For Winter FUN that just passed, I stayed at the Orlando Hilton (one of the two hotels closest to the Convention Center). I believe the rate arranged through FUN was only around $215 or so. But then there’s taxes added on.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
I should probably keep my mouth shut. I have never been to a coin show and I am not that smart, but every time I see one of these convention posts I think of my friend Dwayne. He owns a Livestock Auction Barn. A couple times a year they have what is called a producers show. At a producer show they require every producer to do the following. They have to bring a few of their best stock (cattle, horses, pigs , lambs etc.) to the show. They have the animals on exhibit at the barn but the animals are also part of a live internet auction that identifies each producer and where his exhibit is.
This approach means individual producers are identified in the live internet but you also have the opportunity of attending and walking the barn or ;being able to participate online. I think it is a great marriage of the internet to the self promoting aspects of the actual show. James
For Winter FUN that just passed, I stayed at the Orlando Hilton (one of the two hotels closest to the Convention Center). I believe the rate arranged through FUN was only around $215 or so.
I always stay at the Rosen Centre - the basic rate for the FUN show is $198 (plus the addons). It's convenient to the Convention Center plus it has a Walgreens Pharmacy right across the street along with several restaurants.
Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA
I went to my first Long Beach in June1980.
Didn't go for a few years then regularly beginning February 1985 until the Covid close down. Last time I attended was October 2021.
Too bad things have evolved to where they are now. Some of my best memories are from the Long Beach shows over the years. ( A side note: The Santa Clara shows were really enjoyable as the buying could be very good.)
I wasn't planning on going in February but I will likely make the trip...20 years from now we will be looking back on the memories.
The showrunners should consider moving it to Phoenix around spring training. It's roughly 5 1/2 hours distance from Long Beach and Las Vegas, will be more affordable and the weather will be fantastic in February/ March.
I only remember three shows a year (back to the 80’s?) in February, June and September. How long ago were there four?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
He may be thinking of the fairly large foreign/world show that was held at the Beach in December(?) back in the day.
I calculated that I have spent well over a year of my life in Long Beach hotels -- others have easily exceeded that milestone.
So many memories. The June 2005 Long Beach Expo was my first coin show. I worked there for many, many years, and have lots of good memories schmoozing with dealers and my colleagues on the show floor. Here's my goofy exhibitor badge.
Phil Arnold
Director of Photography, GreatCollections
greatcollections.com
Been to a Central States show, a couple of FUN shows, a few PAN shows, going to ANA Atlanta this year. Planned on attending Long Beach in June, darn.
I think the obvious solution to things is to have multiple shows in more of the most expensive venues in some of the most expensive cities, that way all the dealers and "clients" can feel good about themselves and celebrate their wealth. It's absolutely ridiculous anymore and why I gave up on attending major regional/national shows almost 20 years ago. As a collector of modest means I simply could not justify spending $1,500-$2,000 to possibly be able to purchase something. Things have just gotten too cost prohibitive.
Reading many of the replies describes a beast which has decided to cannibalize itself for the good of nobody.
They had a show there 10-12 years ago and thought it was a dud from what I remember.
Although, things could change without LB.
EAC 6024
I'll miss the show. Just had my routine down:
Early Thursday flight from OAK to LGB
Uber to the Convention to be there for the 10 AM opening
Peruse the show for approximately two - three hours (pick-ups, drop-offs, purchases, etc)
Grab some lunch at Naree Thai on Ocean Blvd
Back to the show for a couple hours
Uber back to LGB
Late afternoon flight from LGB to OAK
Home in time for dinner
Tim
I've been attending Long Beach for many years. Met JOM (and others) there a number of times. Met Walter Breen and bought his Coin Encyclopedia there as well as Bill Noyes and bought one of his books on Large Cents. The energy level is definitely not what it was in the 1990s.
That said, it's a 1/2 hour drive, and the only larger show around here. I stopped attending local shows because they just didn't have enough material that interested me. I get so see some of my favorite people in the hobby at Long Beach, and unless I got on a plane and traveled to another location to attend a show, I'd never see them.
I don't buy / sell enough to get on a plane, take a number of days out my my schedule, and travel to a show. If Long Beach goes adios, someone who offers me a coin will have to send it to someone I trust, or see them at a show for them to inspect the coin and get back to me. Don't like buying with a return privilege, and will never buy a coin sight unseen.
Also, if you're looking at what for you is an expensive coin, you really need to see it in hand, or have someone you trust see it for you. Images don't tell the whole story. Don't get me started on that.
Some people are buying pretty and expensive coins that are not original. I don't want these coins. You need to see many coins to develop this knowledge and be able to make this determination. At a largish show, if you know people, someone you trust can give you a second opinion by looking at said coin.
Just a thought: I work and live near LAX. There are a huge slew of Airport Hotels on Century Boulevard and nearby. I don't know what are their seasonal occupancy rates and pricing. But surely most could accommodate a coin show the size of Long Beach. And I imagine they could offer reasonable rates outside of the tourist season. You can catch a shuttle directly to pretty much any / all of these hotels from the arrival terminal at LAX.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
It's a shame you made such a terrible mistake for many years as the clear winner for lunch is Sura Korean BBQ on Atlantic.
@Elcontador I like your idea in theory but ugh LAX....just miserable. LGB is such a nice change of pace from a big airport. I prefer the Ontario option mentioned earlier.
Then what did you look like after you got the GC job?
And no sales tax on coins. I was looking into a group to create an annual or semiannual (Spring/Fall) show there, but I probably am going to disengage for a while soon enough. Still a possibility.
Bummer. I’ve been to many shows, but probably over half that I’ve attended were at Long Beach. The old auctions were great. Like others have said, it was an easy day or two-day trip for me to the LGB airport. Many good memories.
You're correct, iy was 3 shows a year
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
Yeah, this is a real bummer but I do understand the issues. I really do miss the "good ol' days". Seeing you, Margulis, Braddick and all the rest. This is such a shame but the slow fall off before COVID and the rapid fall off since made this inevitable.
jom
PCGS --- Dont forget the Anahiem convention center and associated tons of hotels eateries
Angel stadium extremely close as is Disneyland. Safe area!
Confluenses of freeway access.
Finding another location cheaper in the area should be no problem.