Lets see some pillar minors from Peru, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia and Guatemala

PillarDollarCollector

Show them if you got them. As many as you want.

Boosibri

I’ve had several but sold them all. Here were three of the best

Boosibri

Good luck to anyone showing a Chile or Colombia minor unless @MrEureka has been hiding the Norweb 1760-So 4R

PillarDollarCollector

@Boosibri said:
Good luck to anyone showing a Chile or Colombia minor unless @MrEureka has been hiding the Norweb 1760-So 4R

I figured but you never know that is why I added Chile & Colombia anyways.

Eddi

I was able to add this one a little while back. Six examples are known.

JohnnyCache

SimonW

@JohnnyCache I want all of these!!!

Eddi

@johnnycache, that is a beautiful example you have of a Lima 1 real 1753/2. Don't know if you are aware that is a very scarce coin with the overdate. It is only the 3rd. example I have seen and much scarcer than the plain date 1753.
This is my example.

Very rare 1 real 1775 from Santiago - 2 examples known to me.

tcollects

I love collecting coins where no examples are known in unc - reminds me of the US 1802 half dime

JohnnyCache

@Eddi said:
johnnycache,......Lima 1 real >1753/2. ...... is a very scarce coin... >This is my example.

Very rare 1 real 1775 from Santiago - 2 examples known to me.

Eddi, you have beautiful example with eye appeal that's off the chart. I love it, truly a great coin.

I also really like your charles III one real. As you mentioned, these are so tough to locate, any example is special, but yours retains strong details that makes it very attractive.

I have a 2 reales example. It's little dark and worn but still among the best of the small number of these I've seen.

I regret not being able to get a 4 reales example when it was made available a year or so ago, but with only a limited amount of funds available to participate in this hobby, things don't always line up.

SimonW

I could keep this thread busy for quite some time, here’s a recent addition, Yonaka plate coin: probably not much more than a dozen in existence, there’s one perhaps a little nicer (VF30 NGC, I believe, owned by another forum member) two or three in the Yonaka census. Never seen or heard of one better than VF.

JohnnyCache

@SimonW said:
I could keep this thread busy for >quite some time....

Please do, I love looking at these minor reales. I feel that they are very much under appreciated.

I love your '67

Achori

PillarDollarCollector

@SimonW said:
I could keep this thread busy for quite some time, here’s a recent addition, Yonaka plate coin: probably not much more than a dozen in existence, there’s one perhaps a little nicer (VF30 NGC, I believe, owned by another forum member) two or three in the Yonaka census. Never seen or heard of one better than VF.

Yes please do keep them coming this is no limit. I love seen them as others do as well.

Achori

Here is my example for the type Potosi 1767 1 real graded AU55 (1767-1770).

SimonW

Some nice stuff @Achori I've never found any of those dates available in such wonderful conditions! Both the Peru pieces are among the more common dates in their respective series', (meaning there's maybe thirty extant instead of fifteen) but in those kinds of grades?! 🙄. Ridiculously nice! Neither have I seen a 1767 1r Potosi in such a high grade...at least not problem free. The best one I've been able to attain is a VF that has a light cleaning, also have a VG. They're hard.

SimonW

Here is the first Peruvian minor I ever bought. I paid $25 if I recall correctly. Bought all three of these more than twenty years ago for around a hundred dollars! The eight reales I sold (dumb move) and the Mexico I accidently dropped in the cracks of my father-in-laws recliner, never could find it and we tried HARD!

Anyway, certified it with our hosts a couple years ago as a VF20...it's the coin that started it all!

realeswatcher

@SimonW said:
Some nice stuff @Achori I've never found any of those dates available in such wonderful conditions! Both the Peru pieces are among the more common dates in their respective series', (meaning there's maybe thirty extant instead of fifteen) but in those kinds of grades?! 🙄. Ridiculously nice! Neither have I seen a 1767 1r Potosi in such a high grade...at least not problem free. The best one I've been able to attain is a VF that has a light cleaning, also have a VG. They're hard.

@Achori, posting those mint-fresh Lima pieces MAY just have assured that @SimonW and @WCC will have impure thoughts about you from this point forward...

The Potosi 1R is very nice also. 55 is a bit high, but it's a lovely example of a type whose prices have boomed the past few years. Following what Simon said, literally the majority of pieces extant are jewelry/holed.

Achori

@SimonW said:
Some nice stuff @Achori I've never found any of those dates available in such wonderful conditions! Both the Peru pieces are among the more common dates in their respective series', (meaning there's maybe thirty extant instead of fifteen) but in those kinds of grades?! 🙄. Ridiculously nice! Neither have I seen a 1767 1r Potosi in such a high grade...at least not problem free. The best one I've been able to attain is a VF that has a light cleaning, also have a VG. They're hard.

Thank you @SimonW , I agree with you those being common dates, but hard to come by on very high grade. I tried to collect pillars by date and variety on 1 and 2R, but since I collect too many area for Peru since cobs to early republic, I decided to just keep the nicest ones, even though I let go some other nice ones. You have very nice and better date pieces as well. Potosi 1767 the only 2 nice examples that I have record of are mine and the one from Emilio collection sold back in 1991.

Eddi

Simon, Bill, Johnny, those are some really interesting pieces you all have posted. It's great to be sharing with like-minded people!

A small run of Santiago 4 reales. The 4R 1790 is ex AMAT. It is actually an overdate (0 over something) . Transitional issue with the bust of Carlos III, but in the name of Carlos IV.

It would be really fantastic to see the Santiago 4 reales 1760 (only 4 known) in case somebody here owns one.

Achori

@Eddi said:
Simon, Bill, Johnny, those are some really interesting pieces you all have posted. It's great to be sharing with like-minded people!

A small run of Santiago 4 reales. The 4R 1790 is ex AMAT. It is actually an overdate (0 over something) . Transitional issue with the bust of Carlos III, but in the name of Carlos IV.

It would be really fantastic to see the Santiago 4 reales 1760 (only 4 known) in case somebody here owns one.

Thank you, that’s a nice run of Santiago 4’s. Santiago always hard to find in nice condition as the ones you just shared.

Boosibri

Old friends

Eddi

Here is one I forgot to post. I really like it due to the fact it is a scarce type with the bust of Carlos IV, but in name of the new King, Fernando VII. Nice condition, too.

Achori

This was my first pillar 1 real.

Boosibri

@Achori said:

This was my first pillar 1 real.

It was my second pillar 1R

SimonW

Well, I guess I'll keep working on the 2r Peru set, since I'm at it! One of the more common dates

JohnnyCache

@Achori, posting those mint-fresh Lima pieces MAY just have assured that @SimonW and @WCC will have impure thoughts about you from this point forward...

Yes, better add me to to that list too

@Eddi I love the 4 reales, especially the 1790 and the 1808, as I particularly love the transitional years.

This one real is one of those that is better appreciated in hand
MS63

 
 

A few 4 Reales, some better than others - and you can't go by the grade, but I love them all individually for what they are.
 

 

AU58

MS62

 

Eddi

Amazing coins you guys are posting....

Does anybody have any 1752-dated Lima mint coins? That first year of issue is particularly scarce across al denominations.

Eddi

A few bits and pieces from Lima:
The 4 reales 1775 with the misspelling GARTIA is interesting. Found it in a tray of low grade world coins in a coin show in Belgium ages ago.

ELuis

@Eddi said:
Does anybody have any 1752-dated Lima mint coins? That first year of issue is particularly scarce across al denominations.

There is an 8R AU DETAILS NGC being sold at 3.5k - not cheap.

TwoKopeiki

@Eddi said:
Simon, Bill, Johnny, those are some really interesting pieces you all have posted. It's great to be sharing with like-minded people!

A small run of Santiago 4 reales. The 4R 1790 is ex AMAT. It is actually an overdate (0 over something) . Transitional issue with the bust of Carlos III, but in the name of Carlos IV.

Neat. The V in "IV" was moved on the die.

SimonW

@Eddi said:
Amazing coins you guys are posting....

Does anybody have any 1752-dated Lima mint coins? That first year of issue is particularly scarce across al denominations.

Yeah, I have a couple, nothing problem free yet…they’re tough in any condition.

SimonW

I think this one is quite nice, despite the hole. Pretty wholesome. In the F12 range.

SimonW

This one is obviously dealing with some issues…I wonder if it spent some time at the bottom of an ocean. Also pierced. It does have decent details, VF-XF, but yeah…a hole filler until a suitable replacement can be had.

PillarDollarCollector

@SimonW said:
I think this one is quite nice, despite the hole. Pretty wholesome. In the F12 range.

These coins are rare no matter the grade I would be happy with any grade for most early pillars from Peru and other nations.

SimonW

Back to posting the 2R Peru’s, here’s a scarcer 1764 in lower-mid grade

SimonW

I had to screenshot this one…😂

SimonW

One of the more common dates, now resides in a NGC VF30 holder, which I think is overly conservative.

Eddi

@SimonW said:
I had to screenshot this one…😂

@Simom , that is a nice looking 2R 1764.

This 1764 2R that I posted above is a variety for that year with a cross-bar on the "M" of the assayers initials

ELuis

@Eddi said:

This 1764 2R that I posted above is a variety for that year with a cross-bar on the "M" of the assayers initials

Nice variety!, a reuse of the LIMA monogram instead of the M.

ELuis

@SimonW said:
I had to screenshot this one…😂

What is this App? that current value is not bad for sure .

ELuis

Have a question for you guys. Worth buying a LIMA Pillar 4R in Fine condition graded?
And how about a VF 1/2 Real, this one raw?

PillarDollarCollector

@ELuis said:
Have a question for you guys. Worth buying a LIMA Pillar 4R in Fine condition graded?
And how about a VF 1/2 Real, this one raw?

I would buy what you can find these are not easy coins to locate at all in any grades. You can always upgrade if possible later on. Better to own a coin that chasing one that never shows up.

ELuis

@PillarDollarCollector said:
I would buy what you can find these are not easy coins to locate at all in any grades. You can always upgrade if possible later on. Better to own a coin that chasing one that never shows up.

Thank you!.

I can see that vary few Lima Pillar 4R are graded, for the one I been looking just 3.

PillarDollarCollector

@ELuis said:

@PillarDollarCollector said:
I would buy what you can find these are not easy coins to locate at all in any grades. You can always upgrade if possible later on. Better to own a coin that chasing one that never shows up.

Thank you!.

I can see that vary few Lima Pillar 4R are graded, for the one I been looking just 3.

Can't always have perfect grades or the highest graded. Some will say different here because that is their way of collecting all power to them. I imagine they have deep pockets unlike most of us collectors so they are doing what is right based on that fact. And we are doing what is right based on our financial situation. That is the way life goes.

If we where talking 1732-1771 Mexican 8 reales I would say wait to find better coins they show often enough except 1732 even that one shows up once a year on average.

SimonW

@ELuis said:
Have a question for you guys. Worth buying a LIMA Pillar 4R in Fine condition graded?
And how about a VF 1/2 Real, this one raw?

I would buy any of them, personally. If you don’t, let me know. ☺️

The app is PCGS CoinFacts. It was an obvious typo, which has now been fixed.

SimonW

Of course, I bought this one and it’s even lower grade wise.

SimonW

@eddi your 64 is wonderful! Just wonderful!

ELuis

@SimonW said:
I would buy any of them, personally. If you don’t, let me know. ☺️

I bought the 1/2 Real. The 4R end up asking for more information and about one of the images, want to check something, no response yet.

The app is PCGS CoinFacts. It was an obvious typo, which has now been fixed.

Thanks for the info about that app, no idea as to why the Current Value it is not also shown on the normal PCGS page when you check/verify a coin there.

SimonW

@ELuis said:

@SimonW said:
I would buy any of them, personally. If you don’t, let me know. ☺️

I bought the 1/2 Real. The 4R end up asking for more information and about one of the images, want to check something, no response yet.

The app is PCGS CoinFacts. It was an obvious typo, which has now been fixed.

Thanks for the info about that app, no idea as to why the Current Value it is not also shown on the normal PCGS page when you check/verify a coin there.

What was the date of the 1/2 real you bought?

ELuis

@SimonW said:
What was the date of the 1/2 real you bought?

1756 LM JM 1/2R

Do not have any image, the coin now is in transit...Guess that by the end of the week it will arrive.