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  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭

    @RiveraFamilyCollect said:
    Did the OP ever post his name on eBay? Maybe the report counterfeit thread nailed OP :wink:

    He did, it’s in his “link” under his posts. However it just shows his store has been removed. But I believe his username is there in the link

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 1:59PM

    Well, the policy will be written clearly
    Stolen merchandise is hysterical but the receipts prove it is all legally obtained. Great Collection is one of those purchase places so in short, I do not know what happened and I am guessing as well. But proof should actually be what reasonable people work off of

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    @NewEnglandRarities said:

    @RiveraFamilyCollect said:
    Did the OP ever post his name on eBay? Maybe the report counterfeit thread nailed OP :wink:

    He did, it’s in his “link” under his posts. However it just shows his store has been removed. But I believe his username is there in the link

    That is correct
    Maybe discrimination on eBay 2 look toward

  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    Well, the policy will be written clearly
    Stolen merchandise is hysterical but the receipts prove it is all legally obtained. Great Collection is one of those purchase places so in short, I do not know what happened and I am guessing as well. But proof should actually be what reasonable people work off of

    Last thing my me. I’ve run an internet based coin business for 20+ years. I’ve never had any of these issues that are sometimes discussed here. Whenever I hear a website or something similar is being started with “policy will be clear” generally that is not all that inviting to buyers.

    Generally speaking, I’ve sold over 25M in coins as a dealer, none of which had a policy questioned or even come into play. Policies have to do with returns, layaway, etc. if policies are written to remind the buyer to do exactly what you need, there are often other venues that are easier to deal with, especially if you are offering items that are readily available in the marketplace.

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    Well, the policy will be written clearly
    Stolen merchandise is hysterical but the receipts prove it is all legally obtained. Great Collection is one of those purchase places so in short, I do not know what happened and I am guessing as well. But proof should actually be what reasonable people work off of

    So, once again, only after repeated incomplete or evasive postings has the real story started to emerge.

    The post by you above appears to suggest that ebay claimed you were selling stolen merchandise?

    You didn't think this was relevant to this whole discussion?

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 2:42PM

    @JBK said:

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    Well, the policy will be written clearly
    Stolen merchandise is hysterical but the receipts prove it is all legally obtained. Great Collection is one of those purchase places so in short, I do not know what happened and I am guessing as well. But proof should actually be what reasonable people work off of

    So, once again, only after repeated incomplete or evasive postings has the real story started to emerge.

    The post by you above appears to suggest that ebay claimed you were selling stolen merchandise?

    You didn't think this was relevant to this whole discussion?

    No, I think we are all guessing on this plus I do not know a thing. Maybe eBay can answer the saga!?

    I spoke to over 20 people and they wanted A proof of ID, check. Proof of address, provided. Proof of Merch!! Receipts verified check, what now???

    What if say, someone in a powerful position says You are False. yet you are not? Former Presidents were accused and maybe they were wrong or maybe they were Actually NOT yet the political says so so does that mean that is going to be the truth??

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Forget about eBay - better get to work on that website you're starting soon.

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    How can a power like eBay tell someone they are this and that however the proof PROVES them wrong according to what they expected

  • NewEnglandRaritiesNewEnglandRarities Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 2:48PM

    @nexlevelnmx said:

    @JBK said:

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    Well, the policy will be written clearly
    Stolen merchandise is hysterical but the receipts prove it is all legally obtained. Great Collection is one of those purchase places so in short, I do not know what happened and I am guessing as well. But proof should actually be what reasonable people work off of

    So, once again, only after repeated incomplete or evasive postings has the real story started to emerge.

    The post by you above appears to suggest that ebay claimed you were selling stolen merchandise?

    You didn't think this was relevant to this whole discussion?

    No, I think we are all guessing on this

    Maybe all are guessing….except you personally. So, eBay questioned if items were stolen? Is that correct? If you answer that question (write a written response YES or NO to the question, did eBay suspect items you were selling were stolen?) that might allow us here to keep answering you. (I will add the reminder to you when you started you said, no reason, out of the clear blue you were cancelled. However, with each couple responses, you are mentioning many things that don’t sound like out of the blue and no reason…)

    But, as I said before, you have not and continue to not much help your cause in a forum of serious collectors and students of the hobby. I’m not sure that is helping you, nor the kind of advertising you want to do for your future/continued business.

    Edited to add: after reading your response above, these are all standard things to be asked for if you want to continue selling on their marketplace. It’s the same for everyone in your situation. This is not eBay against you!

    New England Rarities...Dealer In Colonial Coinage and Americana
  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 2:48PM

    They did not explicitly ask but they DID ask to show merchandise receipts which I did show them lol wasnt even that hard to do

    Well, it is since I gave them what they asked for

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    So that is a no

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How's that new website coming along?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2023 2:43AM

    Ebay is a good sales venue if you know what you're doing but there is no easy money, it's a tough marketplace. Buyers have a lot of rights, the eBay oversight professionals have ultimate control and they should act swiftly if they see a pattern of irresponsible selling. And as many of us have noted there are more sellers not following the very reasonable rules recently.

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I hope the OP gets a real job. Ebay is a good sales venue if you know what you're doing but there is no easy money, it's a tough marketplace. Buyers have a lot of rights, the eBay oversight professionals have ultimate control and they should act swiftly if they see a pattern of irresponsible selling. And as many of us have noted there are more sellers not following the very reasonable rules recently.

    That can be true and the selling was not exactly perfect but no way in need of a ban

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's all water under the bridge - just keep looking forward to your new website.

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    Yep

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nexlevelnmx said:

    @JBK said:

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    Well, the policy will be written clearly
    Stolen merchandise is hysterical but the receipts prove it is all legally obtained. Great Collection is one of those purchase places so in short, I do not know what happened and I am guessing as well. But proof should actually be what reasonable people work off of

    So, once again, only after repeated incomplete or evasive postings has the real story started to emerge.

    The post by you above appears to suggest that ebay claimed you were selling stolen merchandise?

    You didn't think this was relevant to this whole discussion?

    I spoke to over 20 people and they wanted A proof of ID, check. Proof of address, provided. Proof of Merch!! Receipts verified check, what now???

    I thought is was difficult to speak with a single person when calling eBay and the OP spoke with over twenty of them.

    peacockcoins

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • CoinnmoreCoinnmore Posts: 164 ✭✭✭

    What was your ebay name? TYIA

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 3:42PM

    It is in sig. I spoke with too much eBay for right now . It was a giant shock

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    @NewEnglandRarities said:

    @RiveraFamilyCollect said:
    Did the OP ever post his name on eBay? Maybe the report counterfeit thread nailed OP :wink:

    He did, it’s in his “link” under his posts. However it just shows his store has been removed. But I believe his username is there in the link

    Yeah that was not me all authentic and ask JimTyler since I bought his 67 star Rainbow type 1..

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    Gotta go

  • TrampTramp Posts: 704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The movie Split comes to mind when reading this post and those by Slick.

    https://youtu.be/KIpGKumxiGg

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    ✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
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  • @nexlevelnmx said:
    It would be nice if the forum would come in and write an appeal to eBay

    NYPA

  • mtn_scoutmtn_scout Posts: 101 ✭✭✭

    Well reading your past item descriptions was interesting to say the least. Certainly seen worse on eBay so you obviously tripped some algorithm. I mean I don't agree with some of the descriptions, prices, authenticity, etc but you by no means are alone as it's buyer beware on there.

  • pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 5,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this where you post on the BNB 3 Legged Buffalo thread?

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pocketpiececommems said:
    Is this where you post on the BNB 3 Legged Buffalo thread?

    BNB is either a millionaire or in jail :)

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    No wasted time and perfect 100% feedback feel free to see

    Website soon. PCGS represented only
    Also, will be going to Youtube

    Could you supply a link to your feedback page? they still allow you to buy don't they?
    I tried finding qualitynumismatica but have no recent sales to you.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have lots of forever stamps and could ship low cost items that way through eBay. Is this what happened ? To eBay, that would be circumventing their shipping rules ( I.e. tracking). And even though it's only $.63 for one ounce, with eBay's plan, a forever stamp ( I have lots) at a cost of twenty cents ; well it's tempting to ship that way.

    My thoughts are in line with any strange reason why one could or might lose selling privileges. And that could be one.

    When you said "no tracking ....."

  • mtn_scoutmtn_scout Posts: 101 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 7:08PM

    @davewesen said:

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    No wasted time and perfect 100% feedback feel free to see

    Website soon. PCGS represented only
    Also, will be going to Youtube

    Could you supply a link to your feedback page? they still allow you to buy don't they?
    I tried finding qualitynumismatica but have no recent sales to you.

    https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/nextlevelnumisma?filter=feedback_page:RECEIVED_AS_SELLER&_trksid=p2047675.l2560

    Oddly enough I found it as some of the seller items were listed as qualitynumismatica but they aren't showing up that way anymore.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Feedback checks out.

    I still believe there was more to the story than we were able to pry out of him.

    He must have some idea why ebay banned him, whether he agrees with it or not.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,180 ✭✭✭✭✭

    324 followers in 18 months.
    I'd suggest those that have been on ten or 15 or 20 years don't have that many followers.

    There's something going on with that.

    peacockcoins

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I have lots of forever stamps and could ship low cost items that way through eBay. Is this what happened ? To eBay, that would be circumventing their shipping rules ( I.e. tracking). And even though it's only $.63 for one ounce, with eBay's plan, a forever stamp ( I have lots) at a cost of twenty cents ; well it's tempting to ship that way.

    My thoughts are in line with any strange reason why one could or might lose selling privileges. And that could be one.

    When you said "no tracking ....."

    You don't have to track. But if a buyer says they didn't receive it, you need to immediately refund their money.

    But the ebay shipping comes with insurance and tracking and is just easier. I often have thousands in discount postage on hand, but I always use ebay labels because of convenience.

  • JWPJWP Posts: 23,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems that this whole/hole discussion is all about nothing. kinda like Seinfeld.

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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I suspect eBay has been paying for some non-deliveries or claimed non-deliveries.

    They, and PayPal in the past, are doing just that. It's in their business plan but I'm sure the numbers have gone up dramatically over the last few years.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:

    @davewesen said:
    I suspect eBay has been paying for some non-deliveries or claimed non-deliveries.

    They, and PayPal in the past, are doing just that. It's in their business plan but I'm sure the numbers have gone up dramatically over the last few years.

    @VanHalen said:

    @davewesen said:
    I suspect eBay has been paying for some non-deliveries or claimed non-deliveries.

    They, and PayPal in the past, are doing just that. It's in their business plan but I'm sure the numbers have gone up dramatically over the last few years.

    Actually, based on my numbers, I don't think this is true. They're was a spike early in the pandemic. However?, currently my lost or delayed package rate is back where it was pre-pandemic.

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 10:41PM

    @davewesen said:

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    No wasted time and perfect 100% feedback feel free to see

    Website soon. PCGS represented only
    Also, will be going to Youtube

    Could you supply a link to your feedback page? they still allow you to buy don't they?
    I tried finding qualitynumismatica but have no recent sales to you.

    Sure.

    Feedback, Ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/nextlevelnumisma

    Thx

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭

    No idea on why, the only idea is maybe I missed some tracking numbers that I didnt add into the system but nonetheless I always purchased tracking when I did not have any printer to get the label from eBay

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 10:50PM

    @braddick said:
    324 followers in 18 months.
    I'd suggest those that have been on ten or 15 or 20 years don't have that many followers.

    There's something going on with that.

    Nothing, was able to get followers to follow from reddit and what have you. I had a surge of followers when I started the listings. Again, nothing wrong was done that warrants this (based on what I see. I should consider legal inquiry of some sort.

    Fyi, those fees are unbelievable. I looked at what they took off sales and I really didnt do as well as I thought.. its wild on what this site takes plus promoted listing fee

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nexlevelnmx said:
    No idea on why, the only idea is maybe I missed some tracking numbers that I didnt add into the system but nonetheless I always purchased tracking when I did not have any printer to get the label from eBay

    This is inconsistent with your earlier statement about not using tracking for items under $10.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @nexlevelnmx said:

    @braddick said:
    324 followers in 18 months.
    I'd suggest those that have been on ten or 15 or 20 years don't have that many followers.

    There's something going on with that.

    Nothing, was able to get followers to follow from reddit and what have you. I had a surge of followers when I started the listings. Again, nothing wrong was done that warrants this (based on what I see. I should consider legal inquiry of some sort.

    Fyi, those fees are unbelievable. I looked at what they took off sales and I really didnt do as well as I thought.. its wild on what this site takes plus promoted listing fee

    Fees are quite cheap. I pay under 8% in fees including payment processing. It will cost you 3.5% even on your own website for payment processing with 1/1000th the number of eyeballs and no seller guarantees. Anyone who thinks eBay is expensive knows nothing about retail.

  • nexlevelnmxnexlevelnmx Posts: 335 ✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2023 11:03PM

    There were approximately 15 items under or around $10

    None of which were provided tracking. My only mistake in my own review was I left out tracking on a few above $10 but that was a mistake, the under $10 no tracking was not meant to have tracking due to cost of shipping $3 , $ 4 items in a stamped env

    Does not make any sense

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I have lots of forever stamps and could ship low cost items that way through eBay. Is this what happened ? To eBay, that would be circumventing their shipping rules ( I.e. tracking). And even though it's only $.63 for one ounce, with eBay's plan, a forever stamp ( I have lots) at a cost of twenty cents ; well it's tempting to ship that way.

    My thoughts are in line with any strange reason why one could or might lose selling privileges. And that could be one.

    When you said "no tracking ....."

    You don't have to track. But if a buyer says they didn't receive it, you need to immediately refund their money.

    But the ebay shipping comes with insurance and tracking and is just easier. I often have thousands in discount postage on hand, but I always use ebay labels because of convenience.

    Only refund if they follow the required procedure; open case, provide evidence, etc.. If the tracking shows delivered then ebay will side with the seller as they know there are plenty of false claims of sellers trying to game the system.

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2023 3:25AM

    Slickster—you’re scaring the kitties.

    @SlickCoins said:
    [snip] the mother ship is beaming the intelligence to you and no one else

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok. Example
    This is a token I purchased from eBay. When it arrives it looks nothing like the pictures. I check the listing and no mention of stock picture or multiple available you will receive similar. Nada.
    I contacted the seller and while he insisted that my photo was blurry and of poor quality he offered a 50% discount. Quick, easy and as eBay sez “ try and work it out “.
    So it’s not necessary to contact them but comforting to know they back me up.
    Here’s the photo of the listing and my photos. After we had worked out everything and I left positive feedback I made sure to send better photos and try to save my integrity. He didn’t respond back.


    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe all the time you have spent on this thread would be better spent by contacting Ebay.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To be honest it looks like the same token based on certain spotting, but, his photos were seriously "managed" to create a perception that didn't reflect the token in hand.

    Glad he worked it out in your favor.

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My regret was opening this thread. The positive I can take away from it is that it's one of the most stupid inane postings I've seen in awhile. A blind dog with no legs could come up with something more coherent.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 20, 2023 7:27AM

    @logger7 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I have lots of forever stamps and could ship low cost items that way through eBay. Is this what happened ? To eBay, that would be circumventing their shipping rules ( I.e. tracking). And even though it's only $.63 for one ounce, with eBay's plan, a forever stamp ( I have lots) at a cost of twenty cents ; well it's tempting to ship that way.

    My thoughts are in line with any strange reason why one could or might lose selling privileges. And that could be one.

    When you said "no tracking ....."

    You don't have to track. But if a buyer says they didn't receive it, you need to immediately refund their money.

    But the ebay shipping comes with insurance and tracking and is just easier. I often have thousands in discount postage on hand, but I always use ebay labels because of convenience.

    Only refund if they follow the required procedure; open case, provide evidence, etc.. If the tracking shows delivered then ebay will side with the seller as they know there are plenty of false claims of sellers trying to game the system.

    They can't provide evidence if there is no tracking. That was my point. You can't scold them and call them scammers as the OP did.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭✭✭

    so you have been a member for less than 2 years and sold over 20 of those 1921 Peace dollar silver rounds?

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