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A very nice purchase
I like the toning!
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Nice one! Nice toning also.
That's a nice looking original Morgan I like it.
If you like it, then enjoy it.... Looks as if it has spent some time in commerce, as intended. Then put away, probably an album or coin chest with felt lined drawers. Cheers, RickO
silverpop, please respond to my last 7 or 8 messages regarding the 2 Mercs I bought from you but which never arrived via USPS. You're well aware that these never got here as per USPS. I've sent you all the communications I've had with them. You didn't ship these with insurance and your excuse for not doing so is lame. You will not communicate with me by either email or PM here on the forum. I saw your post about your new Morgan and at least know you're still alive.
I've done hundreds of transactions here on the BST and have NEVER had any problems, certainly nothing as remotely as screwed up as this has been with you. Many of the forum members know me and have sold coins to me, never with a problem.
For those wondering, I offered Colin $110 for 2 Mercs he listed on the BST. He agreed, wanted a check, I sent the check, it cleared and he sent the coins. Then the coins went missing with the last updates from USPS on 3/30 "out for delivery" and then on 3/31 "Alert: Awaiting delivery scan". That's the last info I've gotten. I talked to the PO 3 times early on. Their guess is the package was destroyed "due to a spill". Apparently they had a couple of liquid breakages around that time. As far as I know that might be true or the thing was stolen. Either way, Colin has the money and I have no coins.
When I asked Colin if he had insured the package his response was "no, if I had it would have been more pricey". Had he asked me I would have paid for the insurance.
I've sent him numerous inquiries both by PM here on the forum and to his email address. He hasn't responded for over a month. My guess is I'm screwed on the $110. I know this isn't his fault and neither is it mine. I wish he'd insured the package and for the life of me I can't imagine not insuring it unless as the seller I was willing to self-insure and hope for the best.
Sorry to do this here and I expect blow-back from some of you, but I'm totally frustrated with silverpop's lack of communication. Maybe he'll see this one...
Bill
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Until the coins are delivered to YOU, it is the SELLER'S responsibility.
Insurance protects the SELLER, not YOU.
If the SELLER chooses not to insure, HE is taking the risk, not the BUYER.
In your scenario, you are owed $110 by the SELLER.
peacockcoins
Seller needs to make this right. Just saying.
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In the situation as outlined above, the seller is responsible 100% for any loss or damage during transit. Therefore, if the seller did not insure the coins with outside insurance then they insured the coins themselves. It is the seller's responsibility to get you product or a refund.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Nice coin.
I hope seller and buyer can resolve the issue.
I have never in my life shipped a coin off without insurance. It is the seller’s responsibility to either get you those coins OR refund your money. This is not okay with me and is not the way to do business. This should be corrected by the seller, period.
Under the Uniform Commercial Code, title and risk of loss does not pass to the buyer until physical delivery, unless the parties have agreed to otherwise. So unless it was addressed in the communication between parties defining when title would change hands, silverpop would retain title during transportation and thus need to make ponderit whole. At least according to Judge Judy, I am not an attorney.
I hope this gets resolved.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
@silverpop
You really need to make this right. It's $110, c'mon...
@silverpop with 6000 posts definitely not worth your reputation for $110.
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peacockcoins
No brainer, pay the man.
When a seller makes a business decision to not insure the shipment of goods, (s)he is making the decision to self insure. Self insurance cedes the risk liability back to the seller. Thankfully for the seller, the total risk is $110.
In all transactions, communication is key. This is especially so when things go sideways. If the communication is solid, almost anything can be worked through. Once communication slows/stops, the person on the "short" end becomes concerned and frustrated - things escalate.
Communicate, and make it right.
I wish you luck, and I hope you make the right decision in the end.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Looks to be AU, San Francisco usually has great strikes.
Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard
whatever kids i have better things to do then convince screen names who have already made their minds up that i'm accountable for USPS mail issues and want me to fix it which as i'm not the mail is beyond my control
plus have no info on the coins
the CU has gone down when members hold others accountable for issues beyond their control
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unfortunate.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
It is sad when personal accountability is discounted to name-calling those who are reminding the seller of his obligations and ethical responsibility.
It is doubly sad when that seller chooses instead to blame other entities and cast dispersions on members here.
Not surprising in this incident, just sad.
peacockcoins
Why do you, as a vendor, get to be immune from accountability due to shipment issues? If I buy an item on eBay, Amazon, or any other marketplace, the item gets delivered to me in the condition described, or I get my money back.
The coin industry is no different, and you as the seller are responsible to get the item into the buyers hands, unless otherwise agreed upon that the buyer was assuming the risk and you were rolling the dice.
I see that you you’ve chosen to throw away your reputation over a lousy $110, and it is quite unfortunate. One more thing- we are not just anonymous “screen names” like you suggested, and neither are you. I’m sure that when the buyer knows your first and last name, and all it takes is a few whispers for you to be on the blacklist outside of this forum, as well.
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You are a piece of work! "Kids?" LOL! CU has gone down because of members like YOU! Every time you post a sale, it's a confusing mess! You constantly ignore PMs, delete and repost, delete again, repost coin is a Collectivecoin sale, repost again with a pick a price, I could go on! Get a grip and do the right thing! Oh, and I called it.. I knew you would make your profile private.....again! Shocker!!!
You're right and everyone else is wrong. Maybe YOU should go to Collectivecoin and stay there!
A seller is held accountable for making sure a buyer receives their purchase or a refund.
...and very pathetic that the seller deleted the original post and photos (not sure why) and changed their signature line to a lame disclaimer about the USPS.
I can't call him what he really is or I'd be the one getting banned, but that should give you an idea.
I also see that they've set their profile to "private".
"NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR USPS MAIL ISSUES"
If the OP drives without insurance into oncoming traffic due to a blowout and strikes a victim I suppose he is also then NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR MECHANICAL ISSUES.
peacockcoins
I cannot believe for only $110 and this seller decided to ruin his reputation…I always ship out the coins I sold fully insured to protect myself and the buyer. I will for sure not buying anything from this seller.
You’re correct in saying that what happens with the mail is beyond your control. Which is why you, as the seller/sender, should have insured the package. There’s nothing unusual, new or surprising about that concept. You owe the buyer a full refund.
It’s unusual when almost everyone (or everyone) agrees about something around here. But this appears to be one such occasion.
You must not think your name and reputation are worth much, if you’re willing to let them go for $110.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Thank you all, except for Colin, aka. silverpop, of course.
I saw this coming a couple of weeks ago when I had no response from him. The whole thing seemed slimy and less than above-board.
Since my post on Wednesday several members have PM'd me to say that they've had similar experiences with this guy. I hope he can really use the $110, maybe it'll make his life better. Heck, he may have even used it buy the Morgan, hope it makes him happy.
For all the sellers I've dealt with in the past and recently, besides Colin Dickerson of course, thank you. You've helped me increase the value and desirability of by collection and for that I'll be forever grateful; not to mention the education you've given me, The CBH's (Lance, Dave and Todd), and the Buff Nicks (Joe) have all added to my love of the hobby.
I've never run into another Colin but will be more judicious with who I deal with in the future. This was a trainwreck and I hope this true, Karma Is a Bitch,
Thank to all, except this particular "seller".
Bill
@ponderit You have "Successful BST transactions with" in your sig line, it looks like you need to add Unsuccessful transactions to your sig line.
Also anytime @silverpop posts a new BST thread you can make sure to ask for your refund again.
@silverpop Blow your credibility in the numismatic industry for $110. Wow!
Not a very wise decision @silverpop. Put yourself in the buyers shoes. If you bought that Morgan and it never arrived I can guarantee you would want your money back!! Either pay for insurance or be prepared to eat the cost.
@silverpop
I can’t understand why you won’t stand good for the loss of @ponderit/ Bill’s money. I’ve known Bill for about 10 years or longer . I’m saying that to say that if the shoe was in the other foot you would have already received your money back, that’s a guarantee cause he’s a good man. Sometimes your word is all you have in this world, why tarnish that? Especially in this hobby/industry. I’ve always looked at you as one of the good guys. Please don’t prove me wrong. If you pay this man his money back I will be the very 1st guy to stand up and applaud you.
Do the right thing,
Joe
OP has been a problem child on the BST for years. Not surprised by the latest drama.
He’s showing his colors here!
I hope the "seller" rethinks his position and does the right thing. I've been considering placing a couple coins onto the BST recently. As a four year member here who has yet to dip his toe into the BST as a buyer or seller, this thread actually bolsters my confidence in almost every member who has participated there.
Good luck Bill.
Mark
I have little/no experience with the BST but if someone is banned for improper posts wouldn't the moderators do something similar to someone known to be "a problem child on the BST for years"?
No.
The issues and problems didn't raise to the level of a complete banning.
Couple that with many members who have had difficulty don't speak of it yet privately deal with it.
peacockcoins
All of my experiences on the BST I’ve been very positive. With that said, I know who to avoid, via a few messages back-and-forth, and so this is zero surprise to me.
Anyone want to bet that he will just create a different profile here
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
I thought it said Megamind......
Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.
Maybe, but his selling shenanigan's will stick out like a sore thumb!
And by him making another thread with the same tital shows it
He can't man up if he's not a man!
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
Perhaps 'popgoestheweasel'?
peacockcoins
I like it
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
This is unacceptable and totally lame on the seller's part who should be reimbursing you in full. Until tracking shows a package is delivered, it is the responsibility of the seller to make the buyer whole in the event the package doesn't arrive. Whether insurance was purchased or not is irrelevant.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
No one should buy a single coin from you ever again with that kind of unacceptable attitude. Lame!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I do not deal with BST sales, that do not allow for them to be paid via reg. PP. Never had an issue. This could have been avoidable if done so.