Long Beach Report - Friday
Elcontador
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Show was relatively quiet. No long lines for anything. Dropped off some coins to try to get them CAC'd. Can get a big score if my Draped Bust Dime gets a sticker.
Got rid of junk box of international coins, a few slightly better ones, and some 90% silver.
Mainly visited with people I know that I only see at shows. Some of the smartest people in the room attend larger shows, and most of them are happy to speak / share knowledge with you if they aren't busy.
Some coin experts were giving talks, including Seth Chandler, at a pavilion in the back of the show hall.
Rare Coin Americana out of Sacramento had a very nice run of Barber Quarters, mostly AU. Glenn Holsonbake sold it to some younger owners a few years ago. Said they bought a complete set of Barber Quarters @ Rosemont, and the keys, of course, were the first to be sold.
Eye appealing coins out of Hilliard, Ohio always has a nice run of Capped Bust Halves. Looked at an 1833 in MS 65 that was probably one of the nicest for the grade that I've ever seen. Was not played with and priced to sell. They had a better date in 65+ with a sticker that did not look nearly as nice as this coin.
Juan's Rare Coins was selling an attractive run of Mexican 8 Real coins.
A number of people that usually have tables at Long Beach weren't there this time. It could be because this is typically the slowest of the three annual Long Beach Shows.
Saw a sign up front that they will not be giving out free admissions to the show effective in 2023.
Someone found a Barber Quarter than would grade VG in a junk box of coins selling for $3 each and was a happy camper.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
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Thanks for the report!
WS
Is CAC accepting submissions at shows now?
Nice report, thanks for posting.
I bet those quarters were nice, if they used to be Glenn’s.
We’re the 8 reales portraits or cap & rays ?
Thanks for your report !
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I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
I just saw them last week in Sacramento. They are very nice!
Thank you for a great report!
I don’t think they are. I presume @Elcontador meant that he dropped his coins off with someone who will submit them for him.
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That makes more sense! Thanks!
@Elcontador... Thanks for the report. Reference your comment about the junk box find... Sometimes there are hidden treasures in those boxes. We read about good junk box finds here, three or four times a year. Cheers, RickO
Interesting report. I didn’t realize Glenn had sold Americana. Glenn’s such a great guy!
Dave
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Thanks for taking the time to post your report.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
There was a company there called “Whatnot” that is positioning itself as an online competitor to eBay. Seems to be all auctions. Has anyone used it? Any thoughts?
Thanks for the report.
Always appreciated.
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A quick search for Juan's Rare Coins turned up nothing online. My interest peaked just like yours!
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Have to wonder if that will only hurt the already slow attendance.
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@Orlena — I have used whatnot. It’s a live auction website where items are auctioned in quick succession via video feed. The auctioneer hold all the inventory and choose in real time what lot is coming up next. For the collector, very little time to research and perform diligence. Great way for dealers to benefit from itchy trigger fingered collectors. Lots of bullion, and bullion plus, with some numismatics.
@JMoo100 thanks for the info. I’m not a big auction fan and this just doesn’t seem like a good alternative for serious collectors.
Thanks for your show report.
This fundamental focus on personal greed (the only reason CAC exists) is disturbing.
And here we go again. Another low post troll has awoken.
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Thanks for reporting @Elcontador
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Home internet was down over the weekend so I couldn't respond. Speaking with the knowledgeable people referenced above and hearing Seth Chandler were worth the trip, even if I didn't look at any coins at all. Most here would instantly recognize their names and it's always a pleasure to hear what the smartest people in the room are thinking at a given point in time.
My takeaway from it confirmed some of what I already believed: if you know how to grade a series, get what you like. This is especially true when it comes to toned coins. The powers that be prefer some kinds of toning on specific types of coins more than others. Occasionally, you can get a nice coin priced reasonably this way .
Grades, stickers, etc., are expert opinions, but opinions nevertheless. People come and go, and opinions sometimes change with the passing of time.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
I'll tack my observations onto this post rather than make a new one.
I was there both Thursday and Friday.
It was smaller than ANA Chicago. There were fewer dealers, and even proportionally fewer attendees it seemed to me. Nevertheless, it was much larger than any of the local shows around me in Texas, and unlike most of my local shows, there was a greater percentage of numismatic coins versus bullion.
I submitted several coins to PCGS for grading and there seemed to be more people doing this than at Chicago, as I had to wait in line 10 to 15 minutes once I got the all forms filled out. Interestingly, I saw a person who appeared, based on their conversations with others, to be very new to collecting submit some $2 bills with the 1976 bicentennial reverse, and declare the value as $500 each. I didn't get to see them very closely, but they just appeared to me to be normal, current $2 bills. Perhaps they had some error or misprint that wasn't readily visible. Nonetheless, the PCGS staff was very polite and patient at helping this person fill out the paperwork, etc.
There was a thread a few months ago about young numismatists. There were several teenage boys roaming the show, and I saw one spend well over $1,000 on an 1830s Classic Head $5 gold half eagle. Based on his conversations with the seller, he seemed quite knowledgeable about what he was buying. I guess not all young people collect wheat pennies.
Heritage had a great set-up in the main bourse room for viewing the Harry Bass coins that were auctioned on Thursday night. I picked up the catalog for that auction, as well as thick catalog for the October auction. The catalogs are beautiful, with spectacular photography.
I did find a nice 1839/8 $10 gold eagle for my collection, and a MS-64 Peace Dollar for my great-nephew who just turned 8 years old.