Bummer about the OP. I was enjoying this thread. 32 down, 12 to go.
By my notes I was expecting he might grab a few of the "easier" 1844, 1846-O, 1855, 1857, 1859, 1862, 1870 dates soon. I was waiting to see what he came up with for the big 1851, 1852, 1871-CC, 1873-CC dates. And then of course there is the mighty 1870-S that was probably going to keep him from completing the set by Christmas.
@Batman23 - I understand your point about knocking out some of the easier dates. But 55,57,59 and the 62 deserve more respect then to be lumped into the easier category with the 1846o and 1870! Im also missing this thread.
You are not alone in missing whatever transpired. I was initially going to make a comment that the 1862 is simply not an easy coin to find with the right look in the 40-58 range. I suppose the same can be said for other dates as well
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@Manorcourtman@amwldcoin said:
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“The biased moderation of this forum has in my opinion ruined it.”
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“I see the moderators allow two members in particular (along with a coupe others) to continually goad members into arguments over trivial, nit-picking crap that doesn’t matter! Add a bit of “Karen attitude” in there and you catch my drift. Couple that with the aforementioned flagging every post they thought could score them points with the moderators was enough for me!”
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I hear ya man 👌 I’m relatively new here and I saw this from the get-go. I basically consider it to be bullying and very childish. And heaven forbid you retaliate and defend yourself.🙄🤷🏻♂️
@amwldcoin said:
Finally got the last year. 32 down and 12 to go.
What do you think about the article that Dan Owens and I published in The Numismatist a couple of years back where we claim that no 1873-S Seated Dollars were ever struck and melted, and that the 700 pieces reported as the 1873-S mintage were actually leftover 1872-S dollars struck in 1872 and delivered in 1873 to fill orders for dollars?
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
I did not catch what you said or wrote that got you banned. I tried to look and could not find it. Probably deleted?
Anyways, Shocked you bought an NGC coin! Congrats on conquering the 1855$. This is an extremely tough date to find with any sort or eye appeal and yours is way better then average. The color doesn’t bother me on this one.QC just doesn’t make sense. After blowing it up on my computer (the size of a dinner plate)… I’d say the only knock on the coin is the small corrosion spots on obv and rerverse. Had they said corroded then I could have understood. With that said, It’s definitely better then any of the handful I’ve owned over the years. I’d be proud to own this coin. Definitely in the top 10% of the surviving population. Keep chugging along!
@Crusty said: @CaptHenway - I’d love to read your article. Can you post it here?
Aren’t you a member of the ANA? Members can read back issues free online.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
That is a nice 1855. The progress that has been made on this set is amazing. amwldcoin has had great success on a very tough series. I hope he is reinstated and able to report on continued progress on his set.
For a 60 O, that's a clean coin. They're beautiful, but too many stoppers in the series for me. I have one no motto and one with motto coin, both type coins.
"Vou invadir o Nordeste, "Seu cabra da peste, "Sou Mangueira......."
The 55 looks like a nice coin and I don't see the questionable color issue. But look at that luster trying to peak through the devices. If there is nothing negative hiding under that tarnish I would love to see that baby "professionally conserved" to a nice tone free example.
Ok since no one else is saying it, when I zoom on the images of the 1855, I see small, pale circular disturbances especially in the fields. The overall color is pleasing to me, but I think it may be done. I don’t disagree with the details grade even though I like the coin. Wish I could see it in hand before I comment, but that’s not possible,
@paesan -Is it 100% original? No. But compare it to every other 1855 $ in straight graded plastic that is in the archives and I think you’ll agree this coin is superior. Like you said It would be best to see in hand first. I’m ok with the color on this 1855 the corrosion spots are what should raise a flag . But again find me a better one!
Hard to tell for sure from those photos, but that circled mark to the right of the 1855 sorta looks like a tiny planchet flaw.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
Below is a picture of the collection, a very nice group of scarce dollars. I think he had a little too much to drink which is why the image is crooked. Notice his cats fur in the lower left corner.
@Batman23 said:
Bummer about the OP. I was enjoying this thread. 32 down, 12 to go.
By my notes I was expecting he might grab a few of the "easier" 1844, 1846-O, 1855, 1857, 1859, 1862, 1870 dates soon. I was waiting to see what he came up with for the big 1851, 1852, 1871-CC, 1873-CC dates. And then of course there is the mighty 1870-S that was probably going to keep him from completing the set by Christmas.
Just to give you an idea of the CAC pops in XF-AU of some of your "easier" Seated Dollars
55-2
57-8
59P-5
62-8
These coins are available if you are going to settle for a straight graded and in many cases problem coins. But an almost problem-free original coin (essentially for general terms, a CAC coin) is very difficult. Most of these CAC coins listed above are locked up in long term collections. Patience is the best advice. My set with a little luck is now at 39 coins, need the following 62, 70-S, 71-CC, and 73-CC. 33 coins in my set are CAC coins. One of my all-time favorite series to collect!
Not easy to find some of these coins in any grade. That being said…looking at a single picture of the set it is painfully obvious this was a quick set build with no appreciation for CAC quality! In the end all that matters is the OP is happy. And hopefully he didn’t pay CAC prices for non CAC coins.
Just read this entire thread. Informative and entertaining, despite the sharp left turn late in the proceedings. Thanks to the OP and everyone else who contributed.
Not easy to find some of these coins in any grade. That being said…looking at a single picture of the set it is painfully obvious this was a quick set build with no appreciation for CAC quality! In the end all that matters is the OP is happy. And hopefully he didn’t pay CAC prices for non CAC coins.
I get the impression that the OP was on a mission to build a set of SLD’s as quickly as possible sacrificing a little quality and prove to the naysayers that it can be done. We all collect differently and at the end of the day as long as the OP is happy that’s all that matters.
The OP recognized the rarity of this series and believes it is undervalued. He's purchased examples that he likes and is happy with nearly all of them. I have seen a few in hand and they are very nice for the grade. Rather than criticizing his achievements perhaps we should applaud his efforts and accomplishments.
Building a set of seated dollars graded by PCGS is a challenge regardless of grade. This set is well above average compared to most sets I've seen. We each do the best we can with the resources we have. Let's enjoy building and owning our collections and celebrate the friendships we build along the way.
@Pickwickjr said:
The 1850 looks nice
What strikes me is the contrast from blast white to dark. Hopefully he has a good mentor helping with the set build! 😎
Is there any coincidence that this is the only CAC coin?
@Pickwickjr said:
The 1850 looks nice
What strikes me is the contrast from blast white to dark. Hopefully he has a good mentor helping with the set build! 😎
Is there any coincidence that this is the only CAC coin?
No not at all, I ran some random Cert numbers to look for true view or auction results. Clearly the 1850 is the best coin from what I saw. From the stack’s pictures it’s looks like a killer coin.
CAC is hard on seated dollars and that’s why cac’d examples bring so much more money.
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Bummer about the OP. I was enjoying this thread. 32 down, 12 to go.
By my notes I was expecting he might grab a few of the "easier" 1844, 1846-O, 1855, 1857, 1859, 1862, 1870 dates soon. I was waiting to see what he came up with for the big 1851, 1852, 1871-CC, 1873-CC dates. And then of course there is the mighty 1870-S that was probably going to keep him from completing the set by Christmas.
@Batman23 - I understand your point about knocking out some of the easier dates. But 55,57,59 and the 62 deserve more respect then to be lumped into the easier category with the 1846o and 1870! Im also missing this thread.
@TomB
You are not alone in missing whatever transpired. I was initially going to make a comment that the 1862 is simply not an easy coin to find with the right look in the 40-58 range. I suppose the same can be said for other dates as well
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
@coinkat - You summed it up pretty well "with the right look".
An update from amwldcoin: 35 down and 9 to go. I believe he has added a 44, 55, and 71-CC.
Hope we can see the pictures soon. A couple of tough ones there. A thread all of us miss.
Sorry but I'm late to the party. I was following this thread as time permits then,
Wham!
I didn't notice the hammer. What gives?
@Manorcourtman @amwldcoin said:
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“The biased moderation of this forum has in my opinion ruined it.”
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“I see the moderators allow two members in particular (along with a coupe others) to continually goad members into arguments over trivial, nit-picking crap that doesn’t matter! Add a bit of “Karen attitude” in there and you catch my drift. Couple that with the aforementioned flagging every post they thought could score them points with the moderators was enough for me!”
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I hear ya man 👌 I’m relatively new here and I saw this from the get-go. I basically consider it to be bullying and very childish. And heaven forbid you retaliate and defend yourself.🙄🤷🏻♂️
What do you think about the article that Dan Owens and I published in The Numismatist a couple of years back where we claim that no 1873-S Seated Dollars were ever struck and melted, and that the 700 pieces reported as the 1873-S mintage were actually leftover 1872-S dollars struck in 1872 and delivered in 1873 to fill orders for dollars?
@Manorcourtman - Thanks for passing along his message.
Darrell,
I did not catch what you said or wrote that got you banned. I tried to look and could not find it. Probably deleted?
Anyways, Shocked you bought an NGC coin! Congrats on conquering the 1855$. This is an extremely tough date to find with any sort or eye appeal and yours is way better then average. The color doesn’t bother me on this one.QC just doesn’t make sense. After blowing it up on my computer (the size of a dinner plate)… I’d say the only knock on the coin is the small corrosion spots on obv and rerverse. Had they said corroded then I could have understood. With that said, It’s definitely better then any of the handful I’ve owned over the years. I’d be proud to own this coin. Definitely in the top 10% of the surviving population. Keep chugging along!
@CaptHenway - I’d love to read your article. Can you post it here?
Aren’t you a member of the ANA? Members can read back issues free online.
That is a nice 1855. The progress that has been made on this set is amazing. amwldcoin has had great success on a very tough series. I hope he is reinstated and able to report on continued progress on his set.
For a 60 O, that's a clean coin. They're beautiful, but too many stoppers in the series for me. I have one no motto and one with motto coin, both type coins.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
Any idea about the QC?
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
The 55 looks like a nice coin and I don't see the questionable color issue. But look at that luster trying to peak through the devices. If there is nothing negative hiding under that tarnish I would love to see that baby "professionally conserved" to a nice tone free example.
@Batman23 - If you would dip that 55$ then I hope you never get your hands on it!
Ok since no one else is saying it, when I zoom on the images of the 1855, I see small, pale circular disturbances especially in the fields. The overall color is pleasing to me, but I think it may be done. I don’t disagree with the details grade even though I like the coin. Wish I could see it in hand before I comment, but that’s not possible,
@paesan -Is it 100% original? No. But compare it to every other 1855 $ in straight graded plastic that is in the archives and I think you’ll agree this coin is superior. Like you said It would be best to see in hand first. I’m ok with the color on this 1855 the corrosion spots are what should raise a flag . But again find me a better one!
I like the 1855 and see no problems with it.
The OP has done an amazing job, so far, and I hope he continues and finishes his set!!
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Hard to tell for sure from those photos, but that circled mark to the right of the 1855 sorta looks like a tiny planchet flaw.
Below is a picture of the collection, a very nice group of scarce dollars. I think he had a little too much to drink which is why the image is crooked. Notice his cats fur in the lower left corner.
VERY IMPRESSIVE!!
They look BEAUTIFUL!!
CONGRATS!!
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Should be unbanned and allowed to finish this properly. Seriously.
Just to give you an idea of the CAC pops in XF-AU of some of your "easier" Seated Dollars
55-2
57-8
59P-5
62-8
These coins are available if you are going to settle for a straight graded and in many cases problem coins. But an almost problem-free original coin (essentially for general terms, a CAC coin) is very difficult. Most of these CAC coins listed above are locked up in long term collections. Patience is the best advice. My set with a little luck is now at 39 coins, need the following 62, 70-S, 71-CC, and 73-CC. 33 coins in my set are CAC coins. One of my all-time favorite series to collect!
Well said @No Headlights .
Not easy to find some of these coins in any grade. That being said…looking at a single picture of the set it is painfully obvious this was a quick set build with no appreciation for CAC quality! In the end all that matters is the OP is happy. And hopefully he didn’t pay CAC prices for non CAC coins.
The OP is a dealer and he happily bought his coins the way he would like you to buy them.
What, no 1870-s? Psshhh lame.
Jk! Cool set
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Just read this entire thread. Informative and entertaining, despite the sharp left turn late in the proceedings. Thanks to the OP and everyone else who contributed.
I get the impression that the OP was on a mission to build a set of SLD’s as quickly as possible sacrificing a little quality and prove to the naysayers that it can be done. We all collect differently and at the end of the day as long as the OP is happy that’s all that matters.
The OP recognized the rarity of this series and believes it is undervalued. He's purchased examples that he likes and is happy with nearly all of them. I have seen a few in hand and they are very nice for the grade. Rather than criticizing his achievements perhaps we should applaud his efforts and accomplishments.
Building a set of seated dollars graded by PCGS is a challenge regardless of grade. This set is well above average compared to most sets I've seen. We each do the best we can with the resources we have. Let's enjoy building and owning our collections and celebrate the friendships we build along the way.
The 1850 looks nice
What strikes me is the contrast from blast white to dark. Hopefully he has a good mentor helping with the set build! 😎
Is there any coincidence that this is the only CAC coin?
No not at all, I ran some random Cert numbers to look for true view or auction results. Clearly the 1850 is the best coin from what I saw. From the stack’s pictures it’s looks like a killer coin.
CAC is hard on seated dollars and that’s why cac’d examples bring so much more money.