INCORRECT.... Excellent is a PSA 5. Surface wrinkles will get a PSA 5 all day! Even a small surface crease can get a PSA 5.
NO, I'M CORRECT! Read PSA's standard for excellent condition before posting misinformation. They never mention creases until you drop down to vg-ex condition. If your PSA 5 card has a crease, the grader messed up.
I'm not going based on typed up standards, I'm going based on cards that PSA actually sends me back graded.....
I refuse to assign a grade to the cards I'm selling on ebay. I provide large front and back scans so the buyer can zoom in, and if there is a notable blemish on the card, I list that clearly in the description. I sell mostly modern cards (90s and up) so most are NM or better anyway. I've had a couple potential buyers message me and ask about certain cards or things seen in then scan, and I've responded quickly with closeup views of the part they asked about. I've had zero issues doing it this way after thousands of transactions.
Guys, I’m going to ask everyone to take a step back and have a deep breath. Continue to discuss, but this is beginning to border on the online fights that get threads closed and members shut down. Please keep it civil.
Todd Tobias - Grateful Collector - I focus on autographed American Football League sets, Fleer & Topps, 1960-1969, and lacrosse cards.
d. Impact of Fraud Detection on Buyers and Sellers.
You acknowledge and agree that if the third-party authenticator detects fraud or suspects that an item is counterfeit, the item will be removed from marketplace circulation. In addition, eBay will work with the proper authorities as needed and reserves the right to confiscate or destroy any items determined to be counterfeit.
Item d above in the terms of service is why I think this is worthwhile.
To me this policy stops fake slabs from being an issue on EBay before they even become something for us to worry about. Eventually including graded cards will stop this next evolution of hobby fraud before it gets off the ground. If EBay actually enforces this, it will be a major step to cleaning up the hobby.
INCORRECT.... Excellent is a PSA 5. Surface wrinkles will get a PSA 5 all day! Even a small surface crease can get a PSA 5.
And this is why so many people get burned on eBay. Sellers who overgrade their cards because they don't know the actual grading standards.
It may not mention it but wrinkles, on both the front and back have always been eligible for PSA 5's and there are tons of them. 59 fleer and 56 topps will have your highest percentage as it is very common. I don't think you can call it the grader messing up when it is standard.
If the standards have been arbitrarily changed without notice, i wouldn't call that why so many people get burned on ebay either.
Guys, I’m going to ask everyone to take a step back and have a deep breath. Continue to discuss, but this is beginning to border on the online fights that get threads closed and members shut down. Please keep it civil.
Sorry, I know I rub some people the wrong way. It's from a lifetime of talking trash to my fellow Rhode islanders! We don't take it seriously around here, but some may take my comments to heart. No harm intended.
This is good to know. I always figured any card graded excellent or better would be crease free. If creases are allowed on PSA 5 cards, it should be stated in the description of what constitutes a PSA 5 card.
Obviously if "their experts" authenticate said card -- and it is trimmed, altered, etc. -- you will have a hell of a hard time getting a refund.........
I know I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, so will someone explain if I understand this. I sell a card PSA 7 for more than $750. I send to ebay, they send it to someone, then they send it to the buyer if THEY say it's good? What if they say it's no good? Are we supposed to believe that they know more than PSA?
Guys, I’m going to ask everyone to take a step back and have a deep breath. Continue to discuss, but this is beginning to border on the online fights that get threads closed and members shut down. Please keep it civil.
Sorry, I know I rub some people the wrong way. It's from a lifetime of talking trash to my fellow Rhode islanders! We don't take it seriously around here, but some may take my comments to heart. No harm intended.
Rhode Islanders talk trash? That's the first fact I've ever learned about Rhode Islanders.
@mexpo75 said:
I know I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, so will someone explain if I understand this. I sell a card PSA 7 for more than $750. I send to ebay, they send it to someone, then they send it to the buyer if THEY say it's good? What if they say it's no good? Are we supposed to believe that they know more than PSA?
@mexpo75 said:
I know I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, so will someone explain if I understand this. I sell a card PSA 7 for more than $750. I send to ebay, they send it to someone, then they send it to the buyer if THEY say it's good? What if they say it's no good? Are we supposed to believe that they know more than PSA?
I believe it is for raw, ungraded cards only.
graded is $250. Maybe it's less about accuracy of the assigned grade, and more just to ensure that the purchased product in the listing is the same one that is sent in the shipment, to prevent dishonest NAD claims?
Graded will be $250 sometime in mid 2022. At that time parch/auto cards will also be added.
Right now it is raw cards that do not have a patch or an auto over $750. Think this was a super smart move - keep the number of cards to a reasonable number and work out the glitches.
Bought a card that qualifies (ultra modern) on 1/26. Was shipped on 1/27 from New Jersey. Will let you know when I receive it. Delivery is estimated to be 2/15. I am totally fine waiting - but it does show a 2 week + turnaround time.
If EBay is being fair they should pay the seller when it ships from CSG. I hope they do that and do not make the seller wait until it gets to me. Curious to see how that happens. I am sure one of you will sell something that qualifies and can ,et us know.
I agree that this is going to deter flippers and may result in a further downturn of the ultra-modern market. Two weeks is a long time to wait when buying a QB and flipping them after they make it to the Super Bowl.
I can see why many do not like this. But the way I collect (everything I buy is for my PC - if I upgrade a card, which is rare, I usually trade it with cash for something I need at a show) I am in no huge rush and appreciate someone doing something to deter fraud.
If the fraud is that bad that they will have to check every sports card over $250 soon why not just require all sorts cards be consigned to a seller like probestein123 or something.
Just cap all private sellers at $250 and have the rest consigned to a “approved seller”
It’s ridiculous but at least you will get the card you buy in a week and cut out any middle man messing with the cards.
The “approved” sellers are sometimes part of the problem.
For most of you - what is the difference if you get it in 7 days or 14 days or 21 days? The card is still yours and is coming. I understand sellers not wanting to wait to be paid, but I can wait a few weeks for my card to come as long as I know it’s coming. Once CSG receives it I trust that I will be OK and get what I paid for.
I can understand the raw $750 authentication threshold. But the graded $250 limit makes zero sense and adds a layer of cost to everyone. At this point, ebay is paying the authentication, but don't expect this to last. I Hope ebay rethink the graded $250 authentication plan coming this summer.
Guys, I’m going to ask everyone to take a step back and have a deep breath. Continue to discuss, but this is beginning to border on the online fights that get threads closed and members shut down. Please keep it civil.
Sorry, I know I rub some people the wrong way. It's from a lifetime of talking trash to my fellow Rhode islanders! We don't take it seriously around here, but some may take my comments to heart. No harm intended.
Rhode Islanders talk trash? That's the first fact I've ever learned about Rhode Islanders.
being from southeastern ma and 10 minites to Providence, they sure do . and so do the Massholes. haha.
@GoDodgersFan said:
I can understand the raw $750 authentication threshold. But the graded $250 limit makes zero sense and adds a layer of cost to everyone. At this point, ebay is paying the authentication, but don't expect this to last. I Hope ebay rethink the graded $250 authentication plan coming this summer.
I think they may rethink this, I can't see any way CSG can handle authenticating 1/2 a million items a month and eBay footing the bill, along with additional signature required shipping. and once thye throw that cost to sellers, sellers are going to baulk. much easier to sell in the facebook groups or other platforms if all you pay is the 3% paypal fee opposed to something like 20% on eBay. right now the differential is small enough that the reach of ebay is worth the fee difference
@brad31 said:
The “approved” sellers are sometimes part of the problem.
For most of you - what is the difference if you get it in 7 days or 14 days or 21 days? The card is still yours and is coming. I understand sellers not wanting to wait to be paid, but I can wait a few weeks for my card to come as long as I know it’s coming. Once CSG receives it I trust that I will be OK and get what I paid for.
I have no problem waiting but if you ever sold on eBay there is some unreasonable people who want it shipped ASAP.
Anyhow fake cards or slabs has never been a issue for me and I buy cards almost every day. The biggest problems I’ve had is with sellers who steal other peoples scans and list it like they are the owners. Not sure how they can tackle that.
Don’t have a horse in this race, but this is all about, IMO, eBays move to managed payments with Adyen and the delivery exposure risk involved with sportscards. I suspect they are taking heavy losses as a percentage of sales. Probably also the reason for the 5k seller limit.
Basically how it works is if a seller creates an account, sells 5k in fraudulent cards, gets funded and subsequently closes their DDA, there is no one to recover from. So the payment processor/ eBay takes a 5k loss as the buyer is made whole.
This move will be monetized I’m sure but is mostly about reducing fraud losses.
Rhode Islanders talk trash? That's the first fact I've ever learned about Rhode Islanders.
The barbershop scene from "Gran Torino" is a perfect example of what we do around here! Not going to post a link to it, due to the bad language, but check it out on YouTube.
Hopefully this graded CSG 9.5/10 fake Tom Brady Panini auto isn't a sign of what's to come. There's a guy out there that prints his own "Panini Authentic" stickers,forges the autograph then prints The autograph is guaranteed by Panini America, Inc. on back of the card. This seller was selling numerous fake autos on Ebay & Mercari and now at least two Brady's have made it into TPG slabs (there's another Brady in a PSA slab.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Z23A6xUOA
Their grading standards are totally incorrect. A card in excellent condition should NOT have a crease. EBay has no clue when it comes to grading cards.
INCORRECT.... Excellent is a PSA 5. Surface wrinkles will get a PSA 5 all day! Even a small surface crease can get a PSA 5.
I believe the OP realizes that, however, he used the word crease - not small surface crease or surface wrinkles. If he meant surface wrinkles or surface crease (both of which require a bit of light to detect), he prolly would have used those words.
@erikthredd said:
Hopefully this graded CSG 9.5/10 fake Tom Brady Panini auto isn't a sign of what's to come. There's a guy out there that prints his own "Panini Authentic" stickers,forges the autograph then prints The autograph is guaranteed by Panini America, Inc. on back of the card. This seller was selling numerous fake autos on Ebay & Mercari and now at least two Brady's have made it into TPG slabs (there's another Brady in a PSA slab.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Z23A6xUOA
Saw that on the Brady. This is precisely the reason authentication makes sense - but is also the downside that they too miss some. I hope CSG comments and makes the buyer whole.
I would have been fooled by this one for sure (don’t collect Brady so if auto is way off which was not indicated in the video that would have been a red flag. Know what autos generally look like on those I collect ultra modern). Printing the Panini autograph guarantee on the back of a regular Brady would have fooled me. I hope the manufacturers take note and make the base and auto more different. We have scene with Desert Shield how many fakes come out when you can print something additional on an identical card.
Now this is out there and shouldn’t get past those that are paid to keep up on all the fakes. If there are two in holders there are likely more.
@erikthredd said:
Hopefully this graded CSG 9.5/10 fake Tom Brady Panini auto isn't a sign of what's to come. There's a guy out there that prints his own "Panini Authentic" stickers,forges the autograph then prints The autograph is guaranteed by Panini America, Inc. on back of the card. This seller was selling numerous fake autos on Ebay & Mercari and now at least two Brady's have made it into TPG slabs (there's another Brady in a PSA slab.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Z23A6xUOA
Saw that on the Brady. This is precisely the reason authentication makes sense - but is also the downside that they too miss some. I hope CSG comments and makes the buyer whole.
I would have been fooled by this one for sure (don’t collect Brady so if auto is way off which was not indicated in the video that would have been a red flag. Know what autos generally look like on those I collect ultra modern). Printing the Panini autograph guarantee on the back of a regular Brady would have fooled me. I hope the manufacturers take note and make the base and auto more different. We have scene with Desert Shield how many fakes come out when you can print something additional on an identical card.
Now this is out there and shouldn’t get past those that are paid to keep up on all the fakes.
There is a Brady auto for that card but it’s numbered to /4 and has the real Panini sticker that Tom auto’d. I also think that it’s probably better centered on the card than that sticker and I think that there’s sort of an outline box in the card design for where the sticker is placed.
There are a few threads about the guy creating this fake autos on BO and ironically for that specific example I think he printed the Panini auto disclaimer in the correct spot. On other autographed cards he’s faked he has put the disclaimer out of position of where it would normally have gone if real. He leaves a lot of red flags for those paying attention but we all know there are plenty of buyers who aren’t. The guy’s name is known yet I doubt Panini has legally gone after him yet.
Purchase made 1/26, shipped 1/27, arrived at authenticator 2/1, authenticated 2/1, new tracking number created 2/1, card received by USPS and made it to USPS distribution center 2/1.
Actually arrived, authenticated and shipped all on 2/1. Based on the minuscule sample size of 1, process is extremely efficient.
@brad31 said:
Authenticator received my card this morning and authenticated by 3PM CT.
So purchase made 1/26, shipped 1/27, arrived at authenticator 2/1, authenticated 2/1, new tracking number created 2/1,
Seems like at least right now they are keeping up. Will see if post office gets it tomorrow.
When they do the $250 for graded cards and get 25,000 packages a day.....then we will see how this goes. I'm not hopeful. I don't even know how many people it would take to simply open that many boxes??
@brad31 said:
Authenticator received my card this morning and authenticated by 3PM CT.
So purchase made 1/26, shipped 1/27, arrived at authenticator 2/1, authenticated 2/1, new tracking number created 2/1,
Seems like at least right now they are keeping up. Will see if post office gets it tomorrow.
When they do the $250 for graded cards and get 25,000 packages a day.....then we will see how this goes. I'm not hopeful. I don't even know how many people it would take to simply open that many boxes??
I do not disagree. I bet they will gradually lower the $ and never make it all the way down to $250.
Looks like a Best Offer was accepted on that Mantle. So I guess it depends on the final selling price being at least $750 to go through the Authentication process.
@addicted2ebay said:
Oddly mine did not get authenticated
Went right from the seller to me even though it was a $875 raw purchase with a “authentic guarantee”
Is it possible they check the listing before sending it to the authenticators ?
I don't know, but pre-authentication does make a certain amount of sense. Like some discount if you send the card in and only after it passes do you list it.
I wonder how hard it would be cut those stickers off the flimsy penny sleeve and stick it to another penny sleeve with a counterfeit card inside? Or slice the top of the penny sleeve with a razor blade, take out the legit card and slide in a bogus one. Then heat seal it back up. Just a thought on eBay's weak attempt at encapsulating cards...
@addicted2ebay said:
That’s a pretty sweet looking set up but I have to ask… what did that card cost??? I thought this was for $750+
The Franco was $850 plus tax. It’s a blackless error from the same print run that affected the Frank Thomas NNOF.
Okay cool I see it. The K blanket must have gotten a big dent, probably from overrun paper. It happens a lot in the printing business but usually not that large.
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I'm not going based on typed up standards, I'm going based on cards that PSA actually sends me back graded.....
Reality is the ultimate standard!
I refuse to assign a grade to the cards I'm selling on ebay. I provide large front and back scans so the buyer can zoom in, and if there is a notable blemish on the card, I list that clearly in the description. I sell mostly modern cards (90s and up) so most are NM or better anyway. I've had a couple potential buyers message me and ask about certain cards or things seen in then scan, and I've responded quickly with closeup views of the part they asked about. I've had zero issues doing it this way after thousands of transactions.
Guys, I’m going to ask everyone to take a step back and have a deep breath. Continue to discuss, but this is beginning to border on the online fights that get threads closed and members shut down. Please keep it civil.
d. Impact of Fraud Detection on Buyers and Sellers.
You acknowledge and agree that if the third-party authenticator detects fraud or suspects that an item is counterfeit, the item will be removed from marketplace circulation. In addition, eBay will work with the proper authorities as needed and reserves the right to confiscate or destroy any items determined to be counterfeit.
Item d above in the terms of service is why I think this is worthwhile.
To me this policy stops fake slabs from being an issue on EBay before they even become something for us to worry about. Eventually including graded cards will stop this next evolution of hobby fraud before it gets off the ground. If EBay actually enforces this, it will be a major step to cleaning up the hobby.
It may not mention it but wrinkles, on both the front and back have always been eligible for PSA 5's and there are tons of them. 59 fleer and 56 topps will have your highest percentage as it is very common. I don't think you can call it the grader messing up when it is standard.
If the standards have been arbitrarily changed without notice, i wouldn't call that why so many people get burned on ebay either.
Sorry, I know I rub some people the wrong way. It's from a lifetime of talking trash to my fellow Rhode islanders! We don't take it seriously around here, but some may take my comments to heart. No harm intended.
This is good to know. I always figured any card graded excellent or better would be crease free. If creases are allowed on PSA 5 cards, it should be stated in the description of what constitutes a PSA 5 card.
Obviously if "their experts" authenticate said card -- and it is trimmed, altered, etc. -- you will have a hell of a hard time getting a refund.........
Therein lies the rub.
I know I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, so will someone explain if I understand this. I sell a card PSA 7 for more than $750. I send to ebay, they send it to someone, then they send it to the buyer if THEY say it's good? What if they say it's no good? Are we supposed to believe that they know more than PSA?
Rhode Islanders talk trash? That's the first fact I've ever learned about Rhode Islanders.
I believe it is for raw, ungraded cards only.
graded is $250. Maybe it's less about accuracy of the assigned grade, and more just to ensure that the purchased product in the listing is the same one that is sent in the shipment, to prevent dishonest NAD claims?
Graded will be $250 sometime in mid 2022. At that time parch/auto cards will also be added.
Right now it is raw cards that do not have a patch or an auto over $750. Think this was a super smart move - keep the number of cards to a reasonable number and work out the glitches.
Bought a card that qualifies (ultra modern) on 1/26. Was shipped on 1/27 from New Jersey. Will let you know when I receive it. Delivery is estimated to be 2/15. I am totally fine waiting - but it does show a 2 week + turnaround time.
If EBay is being fair they should pay the seller when it ships from CSG. I hope they do that and do not make the seller wait until it gets to me. Curious to see how that happens. I am sure one of you will sell something that qualifies and can ,et us know.
I agree that this is going to deter flippers and may result in a further downturn of the ultra-modern market. Two weeks is a long time to wait when buying a QB and flipping them after they make it to the Super Bowl.
I can see why many do not like this. But the way I collect (everything I buy is for my PC - if I upgrade a card, which is rare, I usually trade it with cash for something I need at a show) I am in no huge rush and appreciate someone doing something to deter fraud.
But will they have power to say that the card is NOT authentic?
If the fraud is that bad that they will have to check every sports card over $250 soon why not just require all sorts cards be consigned to a seller like probestein123 or something.
Just cap all private sellers at $250 and have the rest consigned to a “approved seller”
It’s ridiculous but at least you will get the card you buy in a week and cut out any middle man messing with the cards.
The “approved” sellers are sometimes part of the problem.
For most of you - what is the difference if you get it in 7 days or 14 days or 21 days? The card is still yours and is coming. I understand sellers not wanting to wait to be paid, but I can wait a few weeks for my card to come as long as I know it’s coming. Once CSG receives it I trust that I will be OK and get what I paid for.
I can understand the raw $750 authentication threshold. But the graded $250 limit makes zero sense and adds a layer of cost to everyone. At this point, ebay is paying the authentication, but don't expect this to last. I Hope ebay rethink the graded $250 authentication plan coming this summer.
being from southeastern ma and 10 minites to Providence, they sure do . and so do the Massholes. haha.
I think they may rethink this, I can't see any way CSG can handle authenticating 1/2 a million items a month and eBay footing the bill, along with additional signature required shipping. and once thye throw that cost to sellers, sellers are going to baulk. much easier to sell in the facebook groups or other platforms if all you pay is the 3% paypal fee opposed to something like 20% on eBay. right now the differential is small enough that the reach of ebay is worth the fee difference
I have no problem waiting but if you ever sold on eBay there is some unreasonable people who want it shipped ASAP.
Anyhow fake cards or slabs has never been a issue for me and I buy cards almost every day. The biggest problems I’ve had is with sellers who steal other peoples scans and list it like they are the owners. Not sure how they can tackle that.
Don’t have a horse in this race, but this is all about, IMO, eBays move to managed payments with Adyen and the delivery exposure risk involved with sportscards. I suspect they are taking heavy losses as a percentage of sales. Probably also the reason for the 5k seller limit.
Basically how it works is if a seller creates an account, sells 5k in fraudulent cards, gets funded and subsequently closes their DDA, there is no one to recover from. So the payment processor/ eBay takes a 5k loss as the buyer is made whole.
This move will be monetized I’m sure but is mostly about reducing fraud losses.
How long will it be before I see a $749 raw card with a $251 shipping fee on EBAY?
Live long, and prosper.
@threeofsix said:
Genius.
The barbershop scene from "Gran Torino" is a perfect example of what we do around here! Not going to post a link to it, due to the bad language, but check it out on YouTube.
Or more aptly…. A $749 raw card on eBay with $251 shipping charge?
Live long, and prosper.
Just literally bought my first raw $750+ “guarantee authenticity” card from the new and improved eBay! I’ll update the board how long it takes lol
Hopefully this graded CSG 9.5/10 fake Tom Brady Panini auto isn't a sign of what's to come. There's a guy out there that prints his own "Panini Authentic" stickers,forges the autograph then prints The autograph is guaranteed by Panini America, Inc. on back of the card. This seller was selling numerous fake autos on Ebay & Mercari and now at least two Brady's have made it into TPG slabs (there's another Brady in a PSA slab.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Z23A6xUOA
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
I believe the OP realizes that, however, he used the word crease - not small surface crease or surface wrinkles. If he meant surface wrinkles or surface crease (both of which require a bit of light to detect), he prolly would have used those words.
OP is accurate - PSA 5 should not have a "crease"
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Saw that on the Brady. This is precisely the reason authentication makes sense - but is also the downside that they too miss some. I hope CSG comments and makes the buyer whole.
I would have been fooled by this one for sure (don’t collect Brady so if auto is way off which was not indicated in the video that would have been a red flag. Know what autos generally look like on those I collect ultra modern). Printing the Panini autograph guarantee on the back of a regular Brady would have fooled me. I hope the manufacturers take note and make the base and auto more different. We have scene with Desert Shield how many fakes come out when you can print something additional on an identical card.
Now this is out there and shouldn’t get past those that are paid to keep up on all the fakes. If there are two in holders there are likely more.
There is a Brady auto for that card but it’s numbered to /4 and has the real Panini sticker that Tom auto’d. I also think that it’s probably better centered on the card than that sticker and I think that there’s sort of an outline box in the card design for where the sticker is placed.
There are a few threads about the guy creating this fake autos on BO and ironically for that specific example I think he printed the Panini auto disclaimer in the correct spot. On other autographed cards he’s faked he has put the disclaimer out of position of where it would normally have gone if real. He leaves a lot of red flags for those paying attention but we all know there are plenty of buyers who aren’t. The guy’s name is known yet I doubt Panini has legally gone after him yet.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
Authenticator received my card this morning and authenticated by 3PM CT.
So purchase made 1/26, shipped 1/27, arrived at authenticator 2/1, authenticated 2/1, new tracking number created 2/1,
Seems like at least right now they are keeping up. Will see if post office gets it tomorrow.
Shipped out from authenticator yesterday.
Purchase made 1/26, shipped 1/27, arrived at authenticator 2/1, authenticated 2/1, new tracking number created 2/1, card received by USPS and made it to USPS distribution center 2/1.
Actually arrived, authenticated and shipped all on 2/1. Based on the minuscule sample size of 1, process is extremely efficient.
When they do the $250 for graded cards and get 25,000 packages a day.....then we will see how this goes. I'm not hopeful. I don't even know how many people it would take to simply open that many boxes??
I do not disagree. I bet they will gradually lower the $ and never make it all the way down to $250.
Oddly mine did not get authenticated
Went right from the seller to me even though it was a $875 raw purchase with a “authentic guarantee”
Is it possible they check the listing before sending it to the authenticators ?
Not that I understand. That is strange. Does your card have a patch or an auto? Those are not included yet.
No it was 53 mantle
Then it definitely should have been sent for authentication. Wonder why the shipping label didn’t send it there.
Gonna try pick it up tomorrow (we’re getting about 10” of snow) but the card looked good
$500 is less than $750. Not sure why it showed Authenticity Guarantee.
Looks like a Best Offer was accepted on that Mantle. So I guess it depends on the final selling price being at least $750 to go through the Authentication process.
It was an auction. With $26 shipping, the seller almost certainly expected more than one bid.
I don't know, but pre-authentication does make a certain amount of sense. Like some discount if you send the card in and only after it passes do you list it.
I bought a guaranteed authentic card at the end of January. Took about two weeks from authentication to my doorstep.
Pretty slick process on this one, and it looks like the card was handled carefully by authenticaters.
Card has a QR code that matches the eBay database and a tamper proof seal.
That’s a pretty sweet looking set up but I have to ask… what did that card cost??? I thought this was for $750+
The Franco was $850 plus tax. It’s a blackless error from the same print run that affected the Frank Thomas NNOF.
I wonder how hard it would be cut those stickers off the flimsy penny sleeve and stick it to another penny sleeve with a counterfeit card inside? Or slice the top of the penny sleeve with a razor blade, take out the legit card and slide in a bogus one. Then heat seal it back up. Just a thought on eBay's weak attempt at encapsulating cards...
Okay cool I see it. The K blanket must have gotten a big dent, probably from overrun paper. It happens a lot in the printing business but usually not that large.
Not impressed with the new look.