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Lest we forget ... on this December 7th

1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 7, 2021 1:32AM in U.S. Coin Forum

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember that day every year

  • moursundmoursund Posts: 3,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were any members here alive on that day?

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 7, 2021 7:43AM

    A very sad and tragic day indeed!

    I've recognized this event on December 7 for many years, but today got me to read about the event a bit, and the History Channel indicates that war was the inevitable result of a decade of activity. Interesting that economic sanctions, among other things, led to war.

    https://www.history.com/news/why-did-japan-attack-pearl-harbor

    The U.S. Was Trying to Stop Japan’s Global Expansion
    In light of such atrocities, the United States began passing economic sanctions against Japan, including trade embargoes on aircraft exports, oil and scrap metal, among other key goods, and gave economic support to Guomindang forces.

  • Yes, let us also remember USMC Major General Smedley Butler who died before Pearl Harbor but somehow predicted it in his book "War is a Racket":

    Then they begin to cry for a larger navy. For what? To fight the enemy? Oh my, no. Oh, no. For defense purposes only.

    Then, incidentally, they announce maneuvers in the Pacific. For defense. Uh, huh.

    The Pacific is a great big ocean. We have a tremendous coastline on the Pacific. Will the maneuvers be off the coast, two or three hundred miles? Oh, no. The maneuvers will be two thousand, yes, perhaps even thirty-five hundred miles, off the coast.

    The Japanese, a proud people, of course will be pleased beyond expression to see the united States fleet so close to Nippon's shores. Even as pleased as would be the residents of California were they to dimly discern through the morning mist, the Japanese fleet playing at war games off Los Angeles.

  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reminiscent of the British " pusser's arrow" (look it up-an interesting story).

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  • hummingbird_coinshummingbird_coins Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found in a coin roll (this was the best lighting I could get with a webcam)

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  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all for the added contributions.

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Amazing stories here. I had the chance to visit Pearl Harbor and the Arizona with my wife on our honeymoon in 2007. Unforgettable experience. This is my November 1941 M1 Garand. It was brand new when the war started. The stories it could tell..

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Watched Tora! Tora! Tora! tonight with my dad, who was age 15 that day.
    He enlisted in the Navy in 1944.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2021 12:31AM

    @DNADave said:
    80 years ago today, the U.S.S. West Virginia sank to the bottom of Pearl Harbor. Within a matter of months, the ship was raised to the surface, drained, and refitted.

    In September 1945, it proudly steamed into Tokyo Bay, flying the same battle-torn American flag it was flying on December 7, 1941. She was the only ship attacked at Pearl Harbor present for Japan’s surrender.

    Truly WV Strong. 🇺🇸


    Great info! Very impressive recovery and result!

    Here are some photos from PearlHarbor.org.

    Bruce D. wrote on PearlHarbor.org:
    Photograph taken from a Japanese plane during the torpedo attack on ships moored on both sides of Ford Island shortly after the beginning of the Pearl Harbor attack. View looks about east, with the supply depot, submarine base and fuel tank farm in the right center distance. A torpedo has just hit USS West Virginia on the far side of Ford Island (center).

    Bruce D. wrote on PearlHarbor.org:
    A small boat rescues a seaman from the 31,800 ton USS West Virginia burning in the foreground. Smoke rolling out amidships shows where the most extensive damage occurred. Note the two men in the superstructure. The USS Tennessee is inboard

    Bruce D. wrote on PearlHarbor.org:
    USS West Virginia (BB-48) with her main batteries trained to starboard, in her final configuration after being rebuilt at Puget Sound Navy Yard, June 1944.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2021 12:40AM

    Thanks for posting this thread @1northcoin and everyone who participated. I have relatives in the military on Oahu, but I don't get to visit them often. This post reminds me I should spend more time with them the next time I'm out there. The last time I was there I got to see some photos of one of my relatives in his dress whites.

  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dave99B said:
    I visited the USS Arizona about five years ago. Stunning memorial. Watching oil still bubbling up to the surface of the Pacific Ocean, 75+ years later was incredible. It was almost a religious experience. Hallowed ground in my book.

    God bless those men and women who were lost. All are Heroes. May they RIP.

    Dave

    The drops of oil as they rose to the surface 78 years after the sinking on December 3rd, 2019:

    And the one vestige of the USS Arizona that pierces the surface adjacent to the Memorial:

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  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2021 10:47PM

    @1northcoin said:

    @Dave99B said:
    I visited the USS Arizona about five years ago. Stunning memorial. Watching oil still bubbling up to the surface of the Pacific Ocean, 75+ years later was incredible. It was almost a religious experience. Hallowed ground in my book.

    God bless those men and women who were lost. All are Heroes. May they RIP.

    Dave

    The drops of oil as they rose to the surface 78 years after the sinking on December 3rd, 2019:

    And the one vestige of the USS Arizona that pierces the surface adjacent to the Memorial:

    OK, that is better phrased, "The drops of oil as they rose to the surface as I photographed them on December 3rd, 2019 - 78 years after the sinking.

  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I knew the day before the significance of tomorrow. God bless those lost on this fateful day 80 years ago. Whenever I see a WWII vet or any vet, I go out of my way to thank them for their service.

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  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Eldorado9 said:
    "A date which will live in Infamy"

    Of course the day on which FDR made that declaration was December 8, 1941.

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My dad served in the Pacific on the USS Bagley, a Bagley-class destroyer, as chief engineering officer. The Bagley was involved in numerous engagements providing protection for the carriers. When asked about this service he would say "well, truth is I didn't know my a..h... from a porthole". Typical of the Greatest Generation.

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