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Newp; A bit of a tougher date Morgan with color. Feel free to GTG.
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Mr_Spud
MS 64
64, shot 65 if the luster is better in hand than in those photos.
MS63
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AU 55. Wear on high points hair and reverse breast feathers. Could get a details but not sure about that. Probably straight grade 55
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Fingerprint lower left obverse. 62
Weak strike. MS 63.
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Looks possible MS, I'll say 62 due to the strike.
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I guess 65
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my gut says 63
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What about the rub on the high spots? Or is that an incredibly light strike . 🤔
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@Jzyskowski1 it appears to be a slightly weak strike from the photos.
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The 1891 is not a quality Morgan product and is deceptively tough in 65 and higher. I like it as an MS... likely in the 62-63 range. I like the coin
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I'll guess MS64. Yes the 91 P was noted for its soft strike in general and poor luster. I like it and the heavy bag toning.
Check the hair. That’s rub. No?🤔
MS example followed by OP’s
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It's uncirculated. General hint for you; usually when you see color like this, it's going to be unc. AU's with color like this (bag colors) are uber rare. It's a pretty typical 91 plain strike, too. This is just how they come.
I'll post the grade tonight.
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What about the hair. I am the only person that thinks it’s worn down. Just look at the pictures 😳
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On silver, you generally don't look at high points for wear unless you see disturbance to the luster. The toning being relatively unbroken in the fields suggests this coin never circulated.
Generally with circulation, toning is the first thing to be disturbed, along with hairlines being imparted, then you start to see wear on high points, unless the toning occurred after circulation.
The one you're comparing it to has a hammered strike for the date.
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My question is about the hair. Is it not rubbed off. I don’t know enough to get to deep and don’t mean to offend. I just see a problem with the hair.
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Specifically where? The un-toned area? That just happens sometimes. Rubbed toning looks a lot different, it's a subtle but important distinction.
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The back of the head. The surrounding areas are smooth not like the example. From UNUM left to the ear
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63 to me.
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Now that I know it’s uncirculated, I’ll go with 64
Mr_Spud
I see no variation in color on the hair or breast feathers making me think it's UNC. I'll be a contrarian and say MS 64.
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Not a coin that I would be attracted to, the tone is not for me and the fingerprints kill it. I think its a technical AU but with todays market grading got an MS63 grade.
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Not one comment about the hair. Look at the pictures and someone explain please. How that is not wear.
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Please do not take offense but if it is straight graded as 63 in my opinion that is wrong. I have viewed many 91 P Morgans and yes they are known for an extremely weak strike but that coin shows wear and a straight grade in a 55 would even be a gift. To me the look of finger prints and honestly the toning does not look right. My opinion is problem coin.
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AL
A soft strike, common on the 91P, esp the hair around the ear and the leaves, can look like rub. Reason you cannot compare an 83-85O minted coin with the early S mintages. Agree the toning came first on this coin and not rubbed off, also believe it is uncirculated. Also not 100% sure those are fingerprints vs the mint bag leaving an 'untoned' effect. I believe what caused the 'marks' at 7:00 was the same at 5:00, and that doesn't look like fingerprints.
AU64
I agree with coastaljerseyguy those may not be finger prints how ever that coin has many issues the least being those marks.
Al
To many things going on with the obverse for me.
I won't promote a guess but look forward to seeing what the outcome is.
Wayne
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In 6 hours, I'll post the grade. Enjoying the discussion though.
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MS64+ so I'm not the only person here who uses Discord?
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If the pictures are accurate MS63, 64 on a good day. I like it a lot
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Agree with tommy44 on the grades
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If muted luster, MS63. If the luster is nice, MS64.
What some are seeing as wear is probably just a weak strike. The distinction is easy in-hand. I kinda like it, but the fingerprints are tough for me to digest, on this one, anyhow.
I like it a lot. I am the proud owner of a couple nicely toned Morgan that belonged to DelewareDoons.
I’ll say 63 on that beauty.
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Nice. Beautiful toning, especially the reverse. I'll guess 62.
Dave
63.
It's a 64 all day long.
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