has connotations of bad for the grade. could it be 65 or 64+ or is your heart set on 65- ?
The difference between 65- and 64+ is splitting hairs. I have to put the KOS below it because of the pin scratches on the spot in the left obverse field [personal observation]
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
I graded the Childs-Pogue coin 66- when I first saw it (holdered) in 2000. It's getting darker.
I graded the KOS coin 64+ raw in 1984. It's gotten darker too.
Your Dexter piece 64- agreed.
Eliasberg (not ex:Mickley) non-descript 63+ Mickley-Hawn-Queller NCS'd NGC MS62 a true 58
Reed - 62+ Unless I have it mixed up with the Beebe restrike.
edited to add: @tradedollarnut, did you choose to not like this post because, once again, you spread erroneous information and I corrected it? Bold-face modifications added during edit.
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@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
Good thoughts. Regardless of numeric grade, it seems like the Sultan of Muscat coin is the top condition coin as rated by a few people.
Seems like the opportunity to own the top condition coin and one of only two King of Coins owned by Kings, used for their intended purpose.
Best strike I've seen on one of those. Surely a bargain at twice the price you already stretched to.
When you drop it, does it ring?
How many people living have heard an 1804 dollar ring? Has to be a pretty exclusive club!
In1985, I dropped the Garrett coin onto the floor at Stacks when handing it to my nine-year-old daughter. The floor was carpeted. The coin was low grade enough (my 45, NGC's later 53) that, even onto concrete, it likely wouldn't have changed the grade. @Floridafacelifter, the current owner, has not yet voiced any complaints.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
Good thoughts. Regardless of numeric grade, it seems like the Sultan of Muscat coin is the top condition coin as rated by a few people.
Seems like the opportunity to own the top condition coin and one of only two King of Coins owned by Kings, used for their intended purpose.
A sultan and a king are not identical. So if you're going to create a separate category of ownership, you should correct your sentence above.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
Good thoughts. Regardless of numeric grade, it seems like the Sultan of Muscat coin is the top condition coin as rated by a few people.
Seems like the opportunity to own the top condition coin and one of only two King of Coins owned by Kings, used for their intended purpose.
A sultan and a king are not identical. So if you're going to create a separate category of ownership, you should correct your sentence above.
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Sultan is a pure Arabic word which was commonly used to represent the ruler of Muslims countries while King is a general word which was equally used in European, Arab and Asian countries.
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
Good thoughts. Regardless of numeric grade, it seems like the Sultan of Muscat coin is the top condition coin as rated by a few people.
Seems like the opportunity to own the top condition coin and one of only two King of Coins owned by Kings, used for their intended purpose.
A sultan and a king are not identical. So if you're going to create a separate category of ownership, you should correct your sentence above.
Top Google Result
Sultan is a pure Arabic word which was commonly used to represent the ruler of Muslims countries while King is a general word which was equally used in European, Arab and Asian countries.
I saw that, but you left out this part:
"Sultan is now a totally no practical term. No modern state is known as a sultanate of a specific sultan or ruler. However the word king and kingdom is still used in some countries like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ruled by King Abdullah.
Sultan ruled a limited land while king was the ruler of a huge kingdom.
Sultan was also used as the name of a general person and to give honor to person either he was a ruler or not. While king was used to represent the head of the state."
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Best strike I've seen on one of those. Surely a bargain at twice the price you already stretched to.
When you drop it, does it ring?
How many people living have heard an 1804 dollar ring? Has to be a pretty exclusive club!
In1985, I dropped the Garrett coin onto the floor at Stacks when handing it to my nine-year-old daughter. The floor was carpeted. The coin was low grade enough (my 45, NGC's later 53) that, even onto concrete, it likely wouldn't have changed the grade. @Floridafacelifter, the current owner, has not yet voiced any complaints.
No complaints here- I love this coin (and mine isn’t black)!
@ColonelJessup said: Sultan is now a totally no practical term ...
Literacy aside. "Not everything you read on the Internet is true" - Abraham Lincoln
Sultan of Brunei
Haha. Agreed!
By the way, the Sultan of Brunei has an amazing Ferrari collection. Not sure I'd call it incredible as I think he needs to step it up a notch or two. He has a lot of Ferraris but not some of the top ones. Imagine if he got into coins?
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
Good thoughts. Regardless of numeric grade, it seems like the Sultan of Muscat coin is the top condition coin as rated by a few people.
Seems like the opportunity to own the top condition coin and one of only two King of Coins owned by Kings, used for their intended purpose.
A sultan and a king are not identical. So if you're going to create a separate category of ownership, you should correct your sentence above.
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Sultan is a pure Arabic word which was commonly used to represent the ruler of Muslims countries while King is a general word which was equally used in European, Arab and Asian countries.
I saw that, but you left out this part:
"Sultan is now a totally no practical term. No modern state is known as a sultanate of a specific sultan or ruler. However the word king and kingdom is still used in some countries like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ruled by King Abdullah. Sultan ruled a limited land while king was the ruler of a huge kingdom.
Sultan was also used as the name of a general person and to give honor to person either he was a ruler or not. While king was used to represent the head of the state."
There tends to be exceptions everything, as some kingdoms are / were pretty small, like Denmark, Jordan and Sardinia. Over time, it seems even the largest kingdoms have gotten a lot smaller. For example, I don't think one can even really call the British Commonwealth a kingdom anymore. Is the United Kingdom restricted to the British Isles today?
And of course, sultans who are not happy with their titles are becoming kings, like how the Sultan of Morocco became the King of Morocco in 1957.
@ColonelJessup said: Sultan is now a totally no practical term ...
Literacy aside. "Not everything you read on the Internet is true" - Abraham Lincoln
Sultan of Brunei
Haha. Agreed!
By the way, the Sultan of Brunei has an amazing Ferrari collection. Not sure I'd call it incredible as I think he needs to step it up a notch or two. He has a lot of Ferraris but not some of the top ones. Imagine if he got into coins?
Meh. A lot of people have impressive Ferrari collections. The 1804 dollar club is far more exclusive.
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
Apparently no dispute then that it is "finest known". which probably trumps all else grade wise.
@tradedollarnut said:
I kinda like mine - it’s the least overgraded of the originals….only 1.5 points!
I kinda like yours too- wanna trade?
Seems like a good idea.
Let's see. Yours auctioned for $400,000 in 1980 and his auctioned for $280,000 in 1981. I'm sure the same ratio still holds so he will owe you some additional cash on the trade.
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@tradedollarnut said:
I kinda like mine - it’s the least overgraded of the originals….only 1.5 points!
I kinda like yours too- wanna trade?
Seems like a good idea.
Let's see. Yours auctioned for $400,000 in 1980 and his auctioned for $280,000 in 1981. I'm sure the same ratio still holds so he will owe you some additional cash on the trade.
@tradedollarnut said:
I kinda like mine - it’s the least overgraded of the originals….only 1.5 points!
I kinda like yours too- wanna trade?
Seems like a good idea.
Let's see. Yours auctioned for $400,000 in 1980 and his auctioned for $280,000 in 1981. I'm sure the same ratio still holds so he will owe you some additional cash on the trade.
Yes, but the Garrett piece was resold after the auction to Sam Colavita for $425K. Then it resold in 1982 for $180K. And then I negotiated its purchase after it failed to sell at the 1985 Einstein sale for the same $180K.
And the the Dexter coin brought $990K in '89 and Brent paid $1,880,000 for the Garrett in 2012(sic?).
Hopefully, these new numbers will contribute towards facilitating this imaginary transaction with greater precision and confidence
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
I am shocked that these coins are darkening. They are truly national treasures. I want to nominate Colonel Jessop to crack one of them and touch them up a little. Even my grandmother maintained her silverware better.
I remember seeing this coin and the rest of the set in its original purple velvet lined box at The Treasures of Mandalay Bay exhibit a long time ago. Since that time I believe it's played musical chairs between the grading services and getting bumped a point each time along the way as it went from one holder to the next. Perhaps NGC finally had to draw the line and said no to a PF69 grade? In any case, I thought it looked best in the original box with the rest of the set.
Your hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need it.
@Luxor said:
I remember seeing this coin and the rest of the set in its original purple velvet lined box at The Treasures of Mandalay Bay exhibit a long time ago. Since that time I believe it's played musical chairs between the grading services and getting bumped a point each time along the way as it went from one holder to the next. Perhaps NGC finally had to draw the line and said no to a PF69 grade? In any case, I thought it looked best in the original box with the rest of the set.
If ATS bumped it to PF69, it could give a PF70 opportunity to another TPG
What was the last ATS grade for it?
And if you meant you saw the Sultan of Muscat coin in the original purple velvet lined box, that's great news. I've asked whether the Sultan of Muscat box exists and this is the first I've heard of a sighting. It would be a great collector journey to reassemble as much as the Sultan of Muscat set as possible (and add fillers where necessary). Here's a recent discussion on this:
@tradedollarnut said:
He had to have been talking about the KOS 67. The KOS set was at Mandalay Bay.
Good to know KOS was there. I thought he could have been talking about the KOS coin which is why I asked, but there would be no reason to bump that coin 2 grades to 69.
If it is the KOS box, I'm still very curious about the whereabouts of the SOM box. Is there even a photo of the SOM box available?
@tradedollarnut said:
He had to have been talking about the KOS 67. The KOS set was at Mandalay Bay.
Good to know KOS was there. I thought he could have been talking about the KOS coin which is why I asked, but there would be no reason to bump that coin 2 grades to 69.
If it is the KOS box, I'm still very curious about the whereabouts of the SOM box. Is there even a photo of the SOM box available?
I haven't heard of anyone having seen the Sultan of Muscat presentation case.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Here's the 1999 Walter H. Childs catalog with this coin on the cover. What a great presentation with Walter's coin box. Don't see coins presented like this any more.
@Luxor said:
I remember seeing this coin and the rest of the set in its original purple velvet lined box at The Treasures of Mandalay Bay exhibit a long time ago. Since that time I believe it's played musical chairs between the grading services and getting bumped a point each time along the way as it went from one holder to the next. Perhaps NGC finally had to draw the line and said no to a PF69 grade? In any case, I thought it looked best in the original box with the rest of the set.
If ATS bumped it to PF69, it could give a PF70 opportunity to another TPG
What was the last ATS grade for it?
And if you meant you saw the Sultan of Muscat coin in the original purple velvet lined box, that's great news. I've asked whether the Sultan of Muscat box exists and this is the first I've heard of a sighting. It would be a great collector journey to reassemble as much as the Sultan of Muscat set as possible (and add fillers where necessary). Here's a recent discussion on this:
That's your own recent out-of-body experience abortive thread. You continue to hallucinate. You continue to speculate (with confusion about and conflation with KOS) about your plot line for a two-hour made-for-TV movie. It would be a great collector journey. So would finding that box of goodies that Fenn guy maybe stashed.
Aspire, @Zoins, start a thread about locating the Bourbon family's gold Libertas medals.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
@Luxor said:
I remember seeing this coin and the rest of the set in its original purple velvet lined box at The Treasures of Mandalay Bay exhibit a long time ago. Since that time I believe it's played musical chairs between the grading services and getting bumped a point each time along the way as it went from one holder to the next. Perhaps NGC finally had to draw the line and said no to a PF69 grade? In any case, I thought it looked best in the original box with the rest of the set.
If ATS bumped it to PF69, it could give a PF70 opportunity to another TPG
What was the last ATS grade for it?
And if you meant you saw the Sultan of Muscat coin in the original purple velvet lined box, that's great news. I've asked whether the Sultan of Muscat box exists and this is the first I've heard of a sighting. It would be a great collector journey to reassemble as much as the Sultan of Muscat set as possible (and add fillers where necessary). Here's a recent discussion on this:
That's your own recent out-of-body experience abortive thread. You continue to hallucinate. You continue to speculate (with confusion about and conflation with KOS) about your plot line for a two-hour made-for-TV movie. It would be a great collector journey. So would finding that box of goodies that Fenn guy maybe stashed.
If a coin is mentioned as being bumped to PF69, isn't it more likely the coin being discussed is a 68, not a 67?
Aspire, @Zoins, start a thread about locating the Bourbon family's gold Libertas medals.
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
What keeps yours below 64? Based on the Trueview I am thinking 64+, with only the chatter in right obv field holding it back from the assigned grade.
@tradedollarnut said:
I do wish someone would list the real grades of these darn things. I haven’t seen them all but based upon conversations and personal observations, this is my wag:
Pogue-watters:: 65-
King of Siam: 64+
Dexter 64-
Eliasberg-Mickley 63+
Reed:63
Hansen: 61-
Smithsonian: 58
Cohan - ANA 30
What keeps yours below 64? Based on the Trueview I am thinking 64+, with only the chatter in right obv field holding it back from the assigned grade.
Well, I consider it a 64 so not sure if ‘below 64’ is accurate terminology. Reverse is a gem, obverse is a 64- so maybe these days it’s a solid 64.
@tradedollarnut said:
With any due respect, zoins’ posts add a whole lot more to the forum than the meaningless personal attacks yours have been full of lately.
We have absolutely no respect for each other; that was made clear long ago. You, on the other hand, have excellent reason to fear me. Have you ever taken me down on a fact? You run and hide whenever your ignorance is revealed.
This time around, the horridly abused Mickley coin conflated with the wholesome Eliasberg example 5 points higher.
That's not a meaningless personal attack, but a reiteration of the fact that you, who have self-observed that you have no interest in advancing numismatic knowledge, have very little but a vague pretension to expert authority based on coins whose provenance seems to begin and end exclusively with Morelan.
Speak up!!!! What?
The reverse of the Dexter coin is NOT a gem. It's damaged. Considering why, when and how, that's more than a little bit simplistic, but it would sticker as a 64 otherwise..
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The difference between 65- and 64+ is splitting hairs. I have to put the KOS below it because of the pin scratches on the spot in the left obverse field [personal observation]
I graded the Childs-Pogue coin 66- when I first saw it (holdered) in 2000. It's getting darker.
I graded the KOS coin 64+ raw in 1984. It's gotten darker too.
Your Dexter piece 64- agreed.
Eliasberg (not ex:Mickley) non-descript 63+
Mickley-Hawn-Queller NCS'd NGC MS62 a true 58
Reed - 62+ Unless I have it mixed up with the Beebe restrike.
edited to add: @tradedollarnut, did you choose to not like this post because, once again, you spread erroneous information and I corrected it? Bold-face modifications added during edit.
I like mine.....
Best strike I've seen on one of those. Surely a bargain at twice the price you already stretched to.
When you drop it, does it ring?
How many people living have heard an 1804 dollar ring? Has to be a pretty exclusive club!
Good thoughts. Regardless of numeric grade, it seems like the Sultan of Muscat coin is the top condition coin as rated by a few people.
Seems like the opportunity to own the top condition coin and one of only two King of Coins owned by Kings, used for their intended purpose.
In1985, I dropped the Garrett coin onto the floor at Stacks when handing it to my nine-year-old daughter. The floor was carpeted. The coin was low grade enough (my 45, NGC's later 53) that, even onto concrete, it likely wouldn't have changed the grade. @Floridafacelifter, the current owner, has not yet voiced any complaints.
A sultan and a king are not identical. So if you're going to create a separate category of ownership, you should correct your sentence above.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
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Sultan is now a totally no practical term ...
Literacy aside. "Not everything you read on the Internet is true" - Abraham Lincoln
Sultan of Brunei
I saw that, but you left out this part:
"Sultan is now a totally no practical term. No modern state is known as a sultanate of a specific sultan or ruler. However the word king and kingdom is still used in some countries like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ruled by King Abdullah.
Sultan ruled a limited land while king was the ruler of a huge kingdom.
Sultan was also used as the name of a general person and to give honor to person either he was a ruler or not. While king was used to represent the head of the state."
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
No complaints here- I love this coin (and mine isn’t black)!
Haha. Agreed!
By the way, the Sultan of Brunei has an amazing Ferrari collection. Not sure I'd call it incredible as I think he needs to step it up a notch or two. He has a lot of Ferraris but not some of the top ones. Imagine if he got into coins?
There tends to be exceptions everything, as some kingdoms are / were pretty small, like Denmark, Jordan and Sardinia. Over time, it seems even the largest kingdoms have gotten a lot smaller. For example, I don't think one can even really call the British Commonwealth a kingdom anymore. Is the United Kingdom restricted to the British Isles today?
And of course, sultans who are not happy with their titles are becoming kings, like how the Sultan of Morocco became the King of Morocco in 1957.
Ron Landis creation.
Meh. A lot of people have impressive Ferrari collections. The 1804 dollar club is far more exclusive.
I kinda like mine - it’s the least overgraded of the originals….only 1.5 points!
Thank you!
I kinda like yours too- wanna trade?
Apparently no dispute then that it is "finest known". which probably trumps all else grade wise.
Looks like it could use a nice dip… lol
TurtleCat Gold Dollars
Seems like a good idea.
Let's see. Yours auctioned for $400,000 in 1980 and his auctioned for $280,000 in 1981. I'm sure the same ratio still holds so he will owe you some additional cash on the trade.
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That seems very sensible to me!
Yes, but the Garrett piece was resold after the auction to Sam Colavita for $425K. Then it resold in 1982 for $180K. And then I negotiated its purchase after it failed to sell at the 1985 Einstein sale for the same $180K.
And the the Dexter coin brought $990K in '89 and Brent paid $1,880,000 for the Garrett in 2012(sic?).
Hopefully, these new numbers will contribute towards facilitating this imaginary transaction with greater precision and confidence
Inching up to $4.8M / $5.76M with less than 24 hours to go.
We'll get to see if the 1804 Dollar really is the King of Coins soon.
Has it already met its reserve, assuming there is one?
I am shocked that these coins are darkening. They are truly national treasures. I want to nominate Colonel Jessop to crack one of them and touch them up a little. Even my grandmother maintained her silverware better.
RickO Might be helpfull too.
OINK
Disregard my previous post. I will suggest this to be like an oil deal. I will put up 20% and I need investors to put up the rest.
Let us not let this national treasure be stolen by an international entity.
I remember seeing this coin and the rest of the set in its original purple velvet lined box at The Treasures of Mandalay Bay exhibit a long time ago. Since that time I believe it's played musical chairs between the grading services and getting bumped a point each time along the way as it went from one holder to the next. Perhaps NGC finally had to draw the line and said no to a PF69 grade? In any case, I thought it looked best in the original box with the rest of the set.
Your hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need it.
If ATS bumped it to PF69, it could give a PF70 opportunity to another TPG
What was the last ATS grade for it?
And if you meant you saw the Sultan of Muscat coin in the original purple velvet lined box, that's great news. I've asked whether the Sultan of Muscat box exists and this is the first I've heard of a sighting. It would be a great collector journey to reassemble as much as the Sultan of Muscat set as possible (and add fillers where necessary). Here's a recent discussion on this:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1061908/is-it-possible-to-reassemble-the-sultan-of-muscat-set#latest
He had to have been talking about the KOS 67. The KOS set was at Mandalay Bay.
Good to know KOS was there. I thought he could have been talking about the KOS coin which is why I asked, but there would be no reason to bump that coin 2 grades to 69.
If it is the KOS box, I'm still very curious about the whereabouts of the SOM box. Is there even a photo of the SOM box available?
Well, the Childs Specimen is now at $5,760,000 with the buyer's fee.
I haven't heard of anyone having seen the Sultan of Muscat presentation case.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
My guess is 15.5 mill at the hammer.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Here's the 1999 Walter H. Childs catalog with this coin on the cover. What a great presentation with Walter's coin box. Don't see coins presented like this any more.
That would be a great result for a great coin
That's your own recent out-of-body experience abortive thread. You continue to hallucinate. You continue to speculate (with confusion about and conflation with KOS) about your plot line for a two-hour made-for-TV movie. It would be a great collector journey. So would finding that box of goodies that Fenn guy maybe stashed.
Aspire, @Zoins, start a thread about locating the Bourbon family's gold Libertas medals.
If a coin is mentioned as being bumped to PF69, isn't it more likely the coin being discussed is a 68, not a 67?
I've already posted on that
Aspire, @ColonelJessup, look it up and post a response
Aspire to read meaningless drivel?
My only response would be that you are an amusing fellow and a thought-provoking student of the discipline.
Time-wasting fantasists everywhere applaud your contributions to the hobby.
It's only the bravest of teachers who would feign ignorance (or stupidity) in order to provoke dialogue.
I do like conversation and this is a chat forum
One could argue that forum participation is often about passing time. Any why not have a good way to do it?
Regarding fantasies, many post here wondering what coins would say if they could only talk!
I haven't seen anyone do that here, except for maybe the parking lot error finds
Actually, I've got a very good reputation at ANA Summer Seminar.
One could also argue, using your same posts, that some are about passing gas
With any due respect, zoins’ posts add a whole lot more to the forum than the meaningless personal attacks yours have been full of lately.
What keeps yours below 64? Based on the Trueview I am thinking 64+, with only the chatter in right obv field holding it back from the assigned grade.
Now at $6,240,000 with the buyer's fee.
No chance this is an edging up to get close to a reserve?
Well, I consider it a 64 so not sure if ‘below 64’ is accurate terminology. Reverse is a gem, obverse is a 64- so maybe these days it’s a solid 64.
Now $6,480,000
We have absolutely no respect for each other; that was made clear long ago. You, on the other hand, have excellent reason to fear me. Have you ever taken me down on a fact? You run and hide whenever your ignorance is revealed.
This time around, the horridly abused Mickley coin conflated with the wholesome Eliasberg example 5 points higher.
That's not a meaningless personal attack, but a reiteration of the fact that you, who have self-observed that you have no interest in advancing numismatic knowledge, have very little but a vague pretension to expert authority based on coins whose provenance seems to begin and end exclusively with Morelan.
Speak up!!!! What?
The reverse of the Dexter coin is NOT a gem. It's damaged. Considering why, when and how, that's more than a little bit simplistic, but it would sticker as a 64 otherwise..
Yawn