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  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭✭✭


    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • dan89dan89 Posts: 490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hahah gotcha!!! I do love the 71 and there is something about the 77 even with the airbrush that brings me back

    @PaulMaul said:

    @dan89 said:
    Really? I think the 73 looks like a mess!

    @PaulMaul said:

    @Nathaniel1960 said:
    1978 and 1980 Reggies are beautiful cards.

    The 1973 Reggie is a beauty also 👍

    I was kidding because @Nathaniel1960 hates the 1973 design. But while the photo composition is a bit odd, I still find it more interesting than another boring head shot.

  • picklepetepicklepete Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭

    @dan89 said:
    Really? I think the 73 looks like a mess!

    @PaulMaul said:

    @Nathaniel1960 said:
    1978 and 1980 Reggies are beautiful cards.

    The 1973 Reggie is a beauty also 👍

    I think the 73 set is one of Topps worst ever.. Just terrible.
    Few good cards but picture quality etc just plain bad.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2021 7:18AM

    @picklepete said:

    @dan89 said:
    Really? I think the 73 looks like a mess!

    @PaulMaul said:

    @Nathaniel1960 said:
    1978 and 1980 Reggies are beautiful cards.

    The 1973 Reggie is a beauty also 👍

    I think the 73 set is one of Topps worst ever.. Just terrible.
    Few good cards but picture quality etc just plain bad.

    I just don’t see it. I think it has some of the best Topps photos ever. Almost all of the landscape cards are top notch. But again, I am no photographer and can’t offer an opinion on technical issues, they are great action shots though.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can someone with photographic expertise explain to me how any of these cards have poor picture quality?

  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For me it’s never been about the photos, rather the design. Seems very lazy and almost reactionary to the ‘72 design. Reminds me of the austerity triggered by the ‘73 oil crisis. I will admit there are some good action photos. But that doesn’t make up for the design shortcomings. I think 73 FB and 73/74 BKB have the same issues. Someone at Topps decided to go back to basics but went too far.

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  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2021 7:41AM

    It’s hard to remove nostalgia from the equation I guess. To me, 1968 and 1969 are far worse than 1973 in every way, but then I never bought those as a kid.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2021 9:50AM

    1973 Topps was creative with use of action shots. However for reasons I fail to recall Topps insisted on ASA100 which is too slow a film for most motion shots. At the time ASA400 might have been a bit pricey (no idea I wasn't around then) however even ASA200 on the whole would have been a vast improvement. Still the set has many nice action shots regardless as shown in PaulMauls post.

    1976 is my favorite set of the decade with 1971,1973,1975,1974 in no particular order are right behind it.

    Edit: found where I read about Topps' ASA preference:
    https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2016/12/23/doug-mcwilliams-baseball-card-photographer-chronicler-of-baseball-history/

    In a post from 2016, Topps, according to baseball photographer extraordinaire Doug McWilliams, insisted on the use of slow ASA 100 film. This did not help matters when it came to freezing the action, resulting in fuzzy images or images that required a lot of massaging in order to make them acceptable.
    https://sabrbaseballcards.blog/2020/04/21/1973-ugliest-topps-baseball-set-ever/

    I do not agree with ugly. To each their own.

    It's the singer not the song - Peter Townshend (1972)

  • rcmb3220rcmb3220 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:
    Can someone with photographic expertise explain to me how any of these cards have poor picture quality?

    Those are great, but not as good as shots with cars in the background.

    The Reggie Jackson photo sucks though.

  • emaremar Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭

    I prolly posted this before:
    [https://youtube.com/watch?v=j4KvW9RFZWg]

  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭

    +1 for the edit

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 8,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So did we have a winner with “Sunday between 1-2pm” in the Edit Pool? ;) jk

  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭

    @bobbybakeriv so now that this is basically a reggie thread, lets see those other 78's you have.

  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 2 cents: It seems a lot of people have been complaining about PSA grading and inconsistency. Here's what I do: I don't send card in for grading. It's kind of ridiculous to be worried about the 'grader of death' or the whole 'crack and resub' method. It's expensive just to have PSA ship your cards back to you, never mind doing it multiple times.

    I agree that the '73T set stinks (to use a technical term). My childhood colleting career ran 1970-1978 and I have all the sets except '73 and '74 because they both fell off the ugly tree. Favorites are 1971, 75, 76.

    Daniel
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2021 11:22AM

    At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their esthetic preferences. But I don’t see at all why 1973 and 1974 are ugly but 1976 is not. I just enjoy each year’s unique design elements and like sets that have as few airbrushed head shots as possible.

  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭

    my preference by year/ design, not by Reggie
    1971
    1970
    1972
    1978
    1977
    1975
    1976
    1973 year I was born, so has a spot in my heart
    1974
    1979

  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    Thank God Todd had that AFL reunion this weekend..

    @grote15 said:
    Thank God Todd had that AFL reunion this weekend..

    You sir, are correct and very valued by me!

  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's okay bobby, we have all been there. I mean hell how do you think uffdah felt when his pack fresh Jim Brown rookie came back an 8 and it looks much stronger than 90% of the 8.5's out on the market.

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  • GoldenageGoldenage Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only the people who opened packs in 1973 can love the design of those cards. They fit in with the small TV sets we had in our rooms to watch games back then. It was a very simple time. 75s are great for many, but to some a 73 Reggie is so much better than a 75 Reggie.

  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 693 ✭✭✭✭

    Topps Photographers from 1971 to 1977 were at their best. In my opinion, 1973 is one of the best years from that period. I think 1972 has the best design but 1973 is the pinnacle for photography which to me is the most important aspect of the cards from the 1970s.


  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:
    At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their esthetic preferences. But I don’t see at all why 1973 and 1974 are ugly but 1976 is not. I just enjoy each year’s unique design elements and like sets that have as few airbrushed head shots as possible.

    Very true! It's like that thread about cards you hate of players you love. Someone said they hated 73T Steve Carlton and Steve Garvey: Those are some of my favorite cards of the set. Eye of the beholder.

    Daniel
  • ArtVandelayArtVandelay Posts: 693 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2021 2:27PM

    The Garvey and Carlton 73's are a couple of my favorites as well.

    Here's the thing...

    You can compare 70's design and photography with other 70's cards but with exception to the 50's it is light years ahead of any other decade.

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ArtVandelay said:
    The Garvey and Carlton 73's are a couple of my favorites as well.

    Here's the thing...

    You can compare 70's design and photography with other 70's cards but with exception to the 50's it is light years ahead of any other decade.

    Honestly, I always liked the60’s designs myself. The 70’s had some great designs too but I always thought the 60’s designs were simple, informative and player focused. Everything you want.

    I think the action shots of the 70’s - awesome at the time - can look out of focus, blurry and dated at times.

    A crisp, focused, posed photo always came out best until the late 70s cards where action shots started to produce real winners.

    To each their own, I guess.

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  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And obviously, Mickey’s not in any sets as an active player anymore.

    😢

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  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My Reggie to share

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

    Ignore list -Basebal21

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    Count me as one who prefers the on field action shots over head shots that dominated the 1960s card designs.

    Also, whats not to love about a card like this one?

    Well, if Luis Alvarado robbed a bank and this card was all we had to go on, he gets away with it, for starters.

    😉

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  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭

    The ‘78 OPC Jackson is a tough one to get centered.

  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    Count me as one who prefers the on field action shots over head shots that dominated the 1960s card designs.

    Also, whats not to love about a card like this one?

    how many cars actually appear on baseball cards out there? cant be many...

  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭

    I have spent $0 with PSA (or anyone else) to have cards graded. That is a sharp Reggie and a very iconic card. I love those action shots of the 70s. they made cards amazing. The crappy poses are great for player identification purposes (remember that Bob Hamelin Pinnacle card where his is literally holding up a sign with his name on it in his card photo) but that is about it. Can't think of many, if any, pose cards I even like.

    I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
  • rcmb3220rcmb3220 Posts: 1,108 ✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @grote15 said:
    Count me as one who prefers the on field action shots over head shots that dominated the 1960s card designs.

    Also, whats not to love about a card like this one?

    Well, if Luis Alvarado robbed a bank and this card was all we had to go on, he gets away with it, for starters.

    😉

    I like to think he’s the one sitting in the red car taking a rest.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:

    @grote15 said:
    Count me as one who prefers the on field action shots over head shots that dominated the 1960s card designs.

    Also, whats not to love about a card like this one?

    how many cars actually appear on baseball cards out there? cant be many...

    Exactly! Who wants to look at another boring head shot of a crew cut when you can see a row of late 60s/early 70s autos instead!



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ScoobyDoo2ScoobyDoo2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2021 6:10AM

    You never know what "All New" directives the new hires are getting over there ......PSA often forgets their judgement is naked for the world to dissect.

    @ScoobyDoo2 - No, we do not.

  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @grote15 said:
    Count me as one who prefers the on field action shots over head shots that dominated the 1960s card designs.

    Also, whats not to love about a card like this one?

    Well, if Luis Alvarado robbed a bank and this card was all we had to go on, he gets away with it, for starters.

    😉

    So what? To me, what matters is an interesting/cool photo. If I was asked to identify one of the players from a sixties set whose card has their mug shot, I don’t think I’d do much better.

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PaulMaul said:

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @grote15 said:
    Count me as one who prefers the on field action shots over head shots that dominated the 1960s card designs.

    Also, whats not to love about a card like this one?

    Well, if Luis Alvarado robbed a bank and this card was all we had to go on, he gets away with it, for starters.

    😉

    So what? To me, what matters is an interesting/cool photo. If I was asked to identify one of the players from a sixties set whose card has their mug shot, I don’t think I’d do much better.

    I’m not going to argue over aesthetics; I have cards from every era and I love them all.

    On a different tip, I do think that as baseball became more TV friendly and broadcast games more often things changed but for some kids, baseball cards may have given them their first real look at a ball player.

    Easy to forget that athletes were not quite as ubiquitous back then as they are today. And I concede that as we transition from the 60s to the 70s, there’s much less of a need.

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  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2021 6:15AM

    nothing to see here, but some choice reggie cards... :)

  • emaremar Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2021 7:14AM

    @AFLfan said:

    @grote15 said:
    Thank God Todd had that AFL reunion this weekend..

    Oh boy...

    Just a collectors' intervention here on the board...
    all is well ;)

    And a wonderful thread with many angles:
    Reggie cards
    '73 Topps; love it or hate it

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blurryface said:
    nothing to see here, but some choice reggie cards... :)

    There’s now two Reggie rookies in this thread?

    “Well, at least second comes right after first...”

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    @AFLfan said:

    @grote15 said:
    Thank God Todd had that AFL reunion this weekend..

    Oh boy...

    Todd,

    This thread had a soundtrack and everything!

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  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @blurryface said:
    nothing to see here, but some choice reggie cards... :)

    There’s now two Reggie rookies in this thread?

    “Well, at least second comes right after first...”

    heres my ying to the above yang. better centering w a simpler, cleaner auto...

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,361 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blurryface - if this were the muppets, you be Constantine and I’ll be Ricky!

    You: I'm number one, you're number two
    We're criminals at large but I'm at larger than you
    I'm number one, you're number two
    I believe in equality as long as you get less than me
    I'm one.

    Me: you're one,

    You: you're number two,

    Me: I'm number two

    You: You may think that you're smarter, but I'm smarterer than you
    I'm number one, you're number two
    You're lucky to be number two not number three
    I can see by the look in your eye, you want to get a bigger piece of the pie
    One day you'll get your chance, but in the mean time
    You got to dance monkey dance!!!!

    Me: Really, I hate dancing...

    You: Do it! dance monkey dance, ha ha

    Me: I'm number two, he's number one
    I can't believe I'm working for an amphibian
    I'm number two, he's number one

    You:I'm number one

    Me: You know life gone to the dogs when your boss is a frog
    I can see it's just a matter of time before he’s gone
    And I'm at the front of the line it won't be long until I get my chance
    But in the mean time, I've got to dance monkey dance

    You: Dance monkey dance now, watch me

    I'm number one,

    Me: he's number one,

    You: you're number two

    Me: I'm number two,

    You: I'll bet you kid, there you go, now step aside this segments through
    I'm one,

    me: you're one,

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    Me and you, (Big finish!)

    I'm
    he's number one
    That's how it's done

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  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    frogs arent always princes or finish first!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN6Wja7_RDQ

    and back to reggie... 😉

  • AFLfanAFLfan Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this still a trading card thread?

    Todd Tobias - Grateful Collector - I focus on autographed American Football League sets, Fleer & Topps, 1960-1969, and lacrosse cards.
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭

    So I have had this signed Reggie RC for a while, but the signature doesn't look much like sigs I have seen. I have chalked it up that someone ruined a Reggie RC. Unless this is like an old sig?

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I always liked the 1973 Killebrew photo!

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  • blurryfaceblurryface Posts: 5,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 24, 2021 8:52AM

    he has a pretty wide variance. the flow seems pretty consistent to me though...

    only thing that seems off to me is the “dot” in the wrong place.

    well and the J. 😉

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