No need for sunglasses with this Newfoundland 50 cent piece. I wonder what could be wrong with this nice 1896 Obverse 2 that I grade as 'Fine'.
I like original-looking Newfoundland halves but can mistake cleaned and darkly retoned coins for original coins. The surfaces look good, perhaps too good except for the punch on the obverse, which is so common it's almost a privy mark for Newfoundland halves. Any comments as to its quality for the grade and originality would be appreciated.
@TomB said:
I think the coin is beautiful and from the images has original surfaces.
Thanks, TomB. The coin surprised me when I saw it and I wondered if it was too good to be true. I couldn't see anything wrong with it except for the punch and the small rim issue. It's nice to have more experienced eyes confirm that.
@1960NYGiants said: @Barberian that coin looks original to me. F-15 would be my grade. BTW it is the small W in NEWFOUNDLAND variety.
How would you grade this coin? NGC grades it XF45. It looks to be at least an XF40 to me and perhaps XF45. Not sure if it's XF45 because of some hits and the upper rim on the obverse. The problem is there is a steep price gradient between XF40 and AU50. I also have a lack of confidence in NGC and PCGS grading of Newfoundland halves. I definitely lack confidence in my own grading of Newfoundland halves. Apologies if this is off topic but it is a nice-looking coin, IMO.
The 1899 is the wide 9s variety and has a higher premium than the narrow 9s. I agree with the EF grade - nice strong detail and what looks to be lustre in the protected areas around the ear and ribbon. Nice coin.
Gene
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@Kyle said:
I like it as an EF-40 @Barberian nice-looking coin!
@1960NYGiants said: @Barberian that coin looks original to me. F-15 would be my grade. BTW it is the small W in NEWFOUNDLAND variety.
Yup. It looks like a small W to me. Do 1896 halves come in a large W variety as well? I understand there is also an obverse #1 as well
Obv 1 is the large W, actually a large W over a small W.
Obv 2 is the small W.
Obv 1 has a higher premium in grades of EF and up.
OK, thanks. After some research, my understanding now is that "obverse #1" represents QV with a curled upper lip and this also has the large W (over small W) in 1896,
The portrait of an older QV with a straight upper lip is "obverse #2", and it coincides with having a small W in 1896.
Here's another obverse #1 - an 1881, mintage 50,000.
I compared all EF40's and EF45's on eBay. Out of four EF45's, the dark 1899 Wide 9 I posted above had the second-best detail, so I bought it. The coin with the best detail out of all eight of the EF 40 & 45 coins examined was an EF40. One of the EF45 coins was at best, a VF35 IMO.
Sadly, my eBay purchase of this coin was canceled. It had already been sold and was relisted by mistake. Very disappointing.
Ebay is really beginning to suck these days with their inappropriately charging state taxes, their sale of counterfeit coins by the thousands, and now auctions ending early before the stated end time or canceled for prior sale. This is the second time this week I've been disappointed with their auctions.
I just had the same problem last week @Barberian. I had a nice quarter on my watchlist for a few weeks that kept getting re-listed, so I reached out to the seller to see if they could do a bit better on their BIN price. They sent me an offer that I thought was fair but pulled the listing before I could accept. Apparently it had already been sold.
Don't think I've shared this one here yet. 1896 10c Obverse 6 ICCS Graded EF-40. I think it's been net graded for an old cleaning. There aren't any hairlines, but it's rather flat looking without any luster.
I think I may have previously posted this in another thread, but its picture belongs here with the rest of the Canadian eye candy. 1930 cent in PCGS SP-66 Red, pop 1/0. Also graded ICCS SP-67 Red. Ex. Cornerstone Collection. The finest of a sparse year for one cent specimens.
Numismatic author & owner of the Uncommon Cents collections. 2011 Fred Bowman award winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson award winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca award winner.
I love the caribou on these coins and think the spacing of the letters and the fonts used work quite well. My only qualm with it is that the date looks too bold, in my opinion, compared to the rest of the letters and numbers.
@coinsarefun - those are super nice examples. Let's see how my GTG is.
Wellington Cossack Penny WE-13 MS64BN
Province of Canada - Quebec Bank 1/2 Penny PC-3 MS65RB
Prince Edward Island - Ships Colonies & Commerce, single H, cut knob &, tooth border, PE10-27 MS64RB
edit to add: if they ever need a new home, please contact me
Gene
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of: Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960 My Ebay
. @1960NYGiants very, very close. The only one you missed I’d the Quebec’ halfpenny is a MS64RB
Thank you to everyone for the nice comments. It’s taking my a lot more time to quire nice examples of Canadian tokens……..in reasonable prices.
I've been meaning to get a 1949 dollar for a while now, mainly because it's the year my mom was born. I don't get to see her (or anyone else in my family) that often because of the pandemic. This toned PCGS MS65 popped up on Instagram yesterday so I nabbed it. I thought it had some character.
I'll contribute these trade dollar coins to this thread. Most are from St. Andrews, New Brunswick (mostly 2 dollar coins), with one from Embrun, Ontario. The Embrun coin I haven't been able to find much information about. The quality of these pictures is not great. I had a hard time figuring out the right way to capture their reflective fields and a good closeup, without the reflection of my phone dimming the fields. In an attempt to capture better pictures I angled the phone for some of them, which kinda distorts the shape of the coin.
Both of those are 1 dollar coins, with the following reverse(?):
Two dollar tokens:
Embrun, Ontario:
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Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
No need for sunglasses with this Newfoundland 50 cent piece. I wonder what could be wrong with this nice 1896 Obverse 2 that I grade as 'Fine'.
I like original-looking Newfoundland halves but can mistake cleaned and darkly retoned coins for original coins. The surfaces look good, perhaps too good except for the punch on the obverse, which is so common it's almost a privy mark for Newfoundland halves. Any comments as to its quality for the grade and originality would be appreciated.
I think the coin is beautiful and from the images has original surfaces.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Thanks, TomB. The coin surprised me when I saw it and I wondered if it was too good to be true. I couldn't see anything wrong with it except for the punch and the small rim issue. It's nice to have more experienced eyes confirm that.
@Barberian that coin looks original to me. F-15 would be my grade. BTW it is the small W in NEWFOUNDLAND variety.
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Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
Yup. It looks like a small W to me. Do 1896 halves come in a large W variety as well? I understand there is also an obverse #1 as well.
How would you grade this coin? NGC grades it XF45. It looks to be at least an XF40 to me and perhaps XF45. Not sure if it's XF45 because of some hits and the upper rim on the obverse. The problem is there is a steep price gradient between XF40 and AU50. I also have a lack of confidence in NGC and PCGS grading of Newfoundland halves. I definitely lack confidence in my own grading of Newfoundland halves. Apologies if this is off topic but it is a nice-looking coin, IMO.
Obv 1 is the large W, actually a large W over a small W.
Obv 2 is the small W.
Obv 1 has a higher premium in grades of EF and up.
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
The 1899 is the wide 9s variety and has a higher premium than the narrow 9s. I agree with the EF grade - nice strong detail and what looks to be lustre in the protected areas around the ear and ribbon. Nice coin.
Life member #369 of the Royal Canadian Numismatic Association
Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
I like it as an EF-40 @Barberian nice-looking coin!
Here's a nice 1918 large cent I purchased recently. I think the photos came out great.
I think those are great photos, too!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Here's another large cent that I purchased with that 1918 above.
OK, thanks. After some research, my understanding now is that "obverse #1" represents QV with a curled upper lip and this also has the large W (over small W) in 1896,
The portrait of an older QV with a straight upper lip is "obverse #2", and it coincides with having a small W in 1896.
Here's another obverse #1 - an 1881, mintage 50,000.
I compared all EF40's and EF45's on eBay. Out of four EF45's, the dark 1899 Wide 9 I posted above had the second-best detail, so I bought it. The coin with the best detail out of all eight of the EF 40 & 45 coins examined was an EF40. One of the EF45 coins was at best, a VF35 IMO.
I realize I posted a 1904-H fifty-cent piece previously, but this is actually another one and not the same coin-
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Sadly, my eBay purchase of this coin was canceled. It had already been sold and was relisted by mistake. Very disappointing.
Ebay is really beginning to suck these days with their inappropriately charging state taxes, their sale of counterfeit coins by the thousands, and now auctions ending early before the stated end time or canceled for prior sale. This is the second time this week I've been disappointed with their auctions.
I just had the same problem last week @Barberian. I had a nice quarter on my watchlist for a few weeks that kept getting re-listed, so I reached out to the seller to see if they could do a bit better on their BIN price. They sent me an offer that I thought was fair but pulled the listing before I could accept. Apparently it had already been sold.
Another beautiful Newfie @TomB!
ICCS MS-64. I believe it's the short waterline (SWL) variety.
1859 DP2 ICCS Graded AU-50 (Edge Damage)
Beautiful DP2!
great 59 and IMO should grade higher.
Thanks guys, much appreciated!
Don't think I've shared this one here yet. 1896 10c Obverse 6 ICCS Graded EF-40. I think it's been net graded for an old cleaning. There aren't any hairlines, but it's rather flat looking without any luster.
To my eyes it appears that it has so much surface gunk on it that all the luster is obscured. However, you have seen it in-hand and I have not.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
It definitely has some dirt on the surface which contributes to the lack of luster. Overall though it’s a handsome coin with great detail!
I would buy that as an AU if it looks like the pictures in hand!
Yeah, I liked the coin as an AU before sending it in for grading. The photos are an accurate representation of the coin in hand.
Picked up this pretty 1942 50 cent recently. I have seen higher graded examples, but few, if any, as attractive.
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I think I may have previously posted this in another thread, but its picture belongs here with the rest of the Canadian eye candy. 1930 cent in PCGS SP-66 Red, pop 1/0. Also graded ICCS SP-67 Red. Ex. Cornerstone Collection. The finest of a sparse year for one cent specimens.
http://www.victoriancent.com
Wow. That's a beautiful specimen!
ICCS MS-63
You've been showing some very nice coins, Kyle.
I like the toning on this coin. What grade is it ?
Coin Junky...
Thanks @syl!
I just now bought a silver 2021 proof 25 cents/caribou quarter. I like these... I needed a cheap coin fix for now... sellers pics...from a proof set.
Coin Junky...
I love the caribou on these coins and think the spacing of the letters and the fonts used work quite well. My only qualm with it is that the date looks too bold, in my opinion, compared to the rest of the letters and numbers.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Tom
could it be a different font being used for the date?
Raw. Either AU58 or MS62.
Dealing in Canadian and American coins and historical medals.
ICCS MS-64 RD
I don’t have very many tokens but do have a few.
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
Very nice @coinsarefun!
@coinsarefun - those are super nice examples. Let's see how my GTG is.
Wellington Cossack Penny WE-13 MS64BN
Province of Canada - Quebec Bank 1/2 Penny PC-3 MS65RB
Prince Edward Island - Ships Colonies & Commerce, single H, cut knob &, tooth border, PE10-27 MS64RB
edit to add: if they ever need a new home, please contact me
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Member of Canadian Association of Token Collectors
Collector of:
Canadian coins and pre-confederation tokens
Darkside proof/mint sets dated 1960
My Ebay
@Kyle thank you very much.
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@1960NYGiants very, very close. The only one you missed I’d the Quebec’ halfpenny is a MS64RB
Thank you to everyone for the nice comments. It’s taking my a lot more time to quire nice examples of Canadian tokens……..in reasonable prices.
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
This quarter graded MS-64 at ICCS
You've posted some nice coins, Kyle .. conrats!
An interesting little ditty crossed my desk today . . . . .
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I've been meaning to get a 1949 dollar for a while now, mainly because it's the year my mom was born. I don't get to see her (or anyone else in my family) that often because of the pandemic. This toned PCGS MS65 popped up on Instagram yesterday so I nabbed it. I thought it had some character.
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https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/3232
Wow! And so I'm appreciably older than you mother?
I'll contribute these trade dollar coins to this thread. Most are from St. Andrews, New Brunswick (mostly 2 dollar coins), with one from Embrun, Ontario. The Embrun coin I haven't been able to find much information about. The quality of these pictures is not great. I had a hard time figuring out the right way to capture their reflective fields and a good closeup, without the reflection of my phone dimming the fields. In an attempt to capture better pictures I angled the phone for some of them, which kinda distorts the shape of the coin.
Both of those are 1 dollar coins, with the following reverse(?):
Two dollar tokens:
Embrun, Ontario:
Amateur, omnivorous numismatist with some focus on Canadian and US coins!
Instagram account: thkcollections