regulars used to be getting done on average in roughly 35 calendar days from the time they were RECEIVED, not just entered.
my closest current one was recvd on 2/1, entered 2/9 and just now hit the grading phase.
not sure how they keep reporting that things are getting better. they are substantially worse.
All true on an absolute basis. On a relative basis it would seem Regular is the only category that has made a significant 47 day advance on the backlog of orders in just 10 days.
If they make the same 57 day progress in the next 10 days, they will report Complete Through as of February 21 on March 20.
All other service levels seem to be plodding along day by day, with no significant advance, except for Value - TCG which has gone no where.
"regular service is now being completed in 20 days"
now that i've officially written it, does it make it true?
eta: more importantly! the 47 stated days is far worse than they were spitting them out prior to march 1st. plenty of hard evidence in the previous pages in this thread. so. they can publish 45 days tomorrow and it's still 1.5x worse than it was march 1st. 40 days the next day, still worse...
until it actually gets to 34 days or under, by definition, there have been zero improvements and can not claim that it's getting better.
and in total, i prolly have 15 regular/express orders sitting there which are looking like it's going to be 2 full months before popping. again, i can understand bulk being delayed. but at $50 & $75 a card, 2 months is the excrement of bulls.
I read your pain, and if they are claiming fantasy completed through dates, than all this is completely irrelevant.
But lets 'circle back' to my statement. If they make the same 57 day progress in the next 10 days, they will report Complete Through as of February 21 on March 20 -- meaning the backlog for Regular will only be 27 days on March 20.
Is this improvement for Regular?
March 1 -- 120 days out
March 10 -- 73 days out
March 20 -- 27 days out
Full disclosure: I'm just a noob with two lifetime orders that will likely take the better part of year to return.
@OneDaysRide said:
I read your pain, and if they are claiming fantasy completed through dates, than all this is completely irrelevant.
But lets 'circle back' to my statement. If they make the same 57 day progress in the next 10 days, they will report Complete Through as of February 21 on March 20 -- meaning the backlog for Regular will only be 27 days on March 20.
Quite the improvement from March 1 when it was 120 days out.
take an ice cold glass of water. now take one drop of urine. insert that drop into the glass of ice water.
do we still have a glass of ice water or do we now have a glass of something else?
@PlayBall said:
This type of order may soon be a relic of the past. I felt all cards were mint except #18 Adams and #232 Klutts. They were included, because there are certain cards in this set you send if they could even sniff a 9. Grading was a little harsh, but not as bad as some previous orders. This was a Quarterly Special.
1 1 48505806 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 9 Pete LaCock Card
2 1 48505807 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 18 Glenn Adams Card
3 1 48505808 MINT 9 1981 Topps 29 Gene Tenace Card
4 1 48505809 MINT 9 1981 Topps 31 Checklist 1-121 Card
5 1 48505810 MINT 9 1981 Topps 35 Mitchell Page Card
6 1 48505811 MINT 9 1981 Topps 57 Dave Roberts Card
7 1 48505812 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 66 Royals Future Stars Castillo/Ireland/Jones Card
8 1 48505813 MINT 9 1981 Topps 74 Mike Hargrove Card
9 1 48505814 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 78 Steve Dillard Card
10 1 48505815 MINT 9 1981 Topps 148 Randy Niemann Card
11 1 48505816 MINT 9 1981 Topps 148 Randy Niemann Card
12 1 48505817 MINT 9 1981 Topps 163 Billy Almon Card
13 1 48505818 MINT 9 1981 Topps 176 Mike Krukow Card
14 1 48505819 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 183 Dick Davis Card
15 1 48505820 MINT 9 1981 Topps 195 Rich Murray Card
16 1 48505821 MINT 9 1981 Topps 232 Mickey Klutts Card
17 1 48505822 MINT 9 1981 Topps 266 Tom Herr Card
18 1 48505823 MINT 9 1981 Topps 268 Jerry Royster Card
19 1 48505824 MINT 9 1981 Topps 274 Craig Chamberlain Card
20 1 48505825 MINT 9 1981 Topps 286 Dave Frost Card
21 1 48505826 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 289 Mickey Hatcher Card
22 1 48505827 MINT 9 1981 Topps 292 Mike Squires Card
23 1 48505828 MINT 9 1981 Topps 309 Luis Salazar Card
24 1 48505829 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 352 Dick Tidrow Card
25 1 48505830 MINT 9 1981 Topps 362 Bo Diaz Card
26 1 48505831 MINT 9 1981 Topps 363 Geoff Zahn Card
27 1 48505832 MINT 9 1981 Topps 371 Charlie Hough Card
28 1 48505833 MINT 9 1981 Topps 371 Charlie Hough Card
29 1 48505834 MINT 9 1981 Topps 384 Mike Sadek Card
30 1 48505835 MINT 9 1981 Topps 403 World Series Phillies Beat Royal in 6 Card
31 1 48505836 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 429 Mick Kelleher Card
32 1 48505837 MINT 9 1981 Topps 442 Ron Pruitt Card
33 1 48505838 MINT 9 1981 Topps 446 Checklist 364-484 Card
34 1 48505839 MINT 9 1981 Topps 446 Checklist 364-484 Card
35 1 48505840 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 451 Indians Future Star Bando/Brennan/Wihtol Card
36 1 48505841 GEM MINT 10 1981 Topps 472 Dyar Miller Card
37 1 48505842 MINT 9 1981 Topps 478 Juan Eichelberger Card
Cards left my house on 6/10/20.
Cards returned to my house on 03/08/21.
Does any know how Non-Sports cards are being effected? I want to send some 77 blue star wars stuff in. Could I assume they are falling inline with Sports cards?
not a lot of poppage being reported in this thread either lately. by anyone. from going back and looking, i'm guesstimating there was some type of internal change around the 1/15/21 date. at least for the receiving and logging of higher dollar tiers.
so this was pretty much the average timeframe. anywhere from 35-40 calendar days from the time just being received.
this is the current sub. approaching 45 calendar days and literally just hit grading earlier this week. took 19 days just to log. sad thing is i have several regs/expresses sent in shortly after that still have made it to grading. some aren't even logged.
so, with the kick to the back burner on premium priced subs, terrible grades coming out, a website that's slower than molasses, captcha that rarely works, timeframes getting much worse than better and warm fuzzy eta dates being released that don't hold water, they are doing a pretty good job of running off the core customer base for good. oh yeah, all this at twice the price. they've even had some of their bulk group subbers hit the pause button. away from this board, there are some serious rumblings and grievances being discussed and displayed. rightfully so in my opinion. reducing folks vouchers down to bulk level classification is/was just dirty. very dirty.
@blurryface - I would agree with your assessment. My vouchers show as economy, I don't recall if that is a change from how it used to be and I didn't notice it change but I never scrolled on the "my orders" page to see if the level was regular and moved to economy; I only noticed recently. My subs that arrived on 2/24 has not been entered but I have value and regular subs in that package. The regular has not been entered yet but regular is showing the CTD as 1/6 which would imply to me that it should be entered awfully soon and hit grading but I really don't expect that is going to happen. So my thought is that at some point, the CTD and the actual submission dates will converge and then what...? It says 12-15 weeks to enter but at the rate regular is moving the CTD will outpace what hasn't even been entered yet. Do they catch-up on other subs? Do they finally accept being caught-up on the regulars and try to keep a medium-pace on those?
The Jordan should be a 7, the Aaron should be a 3.5. The Ruth is right. These superstrict graders are killing me. Four more subs arrived on 3/3, not yet logged.
@scmavl - I’m not surprised in the MJ. One of the fb groups I’m in a guy cracked 4 or 5 PSA 9 Mj’s hoping for a 10. He got back 2 7’s an 8 and a 9. I think there may have also been a 7.5 in there as well but that may have been a different 9 I read about being cracked.
@envoy982 said: @scmavl - I’m not surprised in the MJ. One of the fb groups I’m in a guy cracked 4 or 5 PSA 9 Mj’s hoping for a 10. He got back 2 7’s an 8 and a 9. I think there may have also been a 7.5 in there as well but that may have been a different 9 I read about being cracked.
the crossover & crack game is null and void at this juncture, imo
@mexpo75 said:
Wow! Cracking 4 or 5 PSA 9's takes a lot of basketballs.
No kidding! This was just a couple months back too. I can’t even imagine. I mean if you can sneak one into a 10 you can whiff on the others but if/when you miss? 🤢 It’s bigger basketballs and pocketbooks than I have, I know that for certain.
@envoy982 said: @scmavl - I’m not surprised in the MJ. One of the fb groups I’m in a guy cracked 4 or 5 PSA 9 Mj’s hoping for a 10. He got back 2 7’s an 8 and a 9. I think there may have also been a 7.5 in there as well but that may have been a different 9 I read about being cracked.
Zoiks! That makes me sick just thinking about it. This was my first sub since 2013. My my, how things have changed.
@mexpo75 said:
Wow! Cracking 4 or 5 PSA 9's takes a lot of basketballs.
No kidding! This was just a couple months back too. I can’t even imagine. I mean if you can sneak one into a 10 you can whiff on the others but if/when you miss? 🤢 It’s bigger basketballs and pocketbooks than I have, I know that for certain.
swing and a whiff is one thing but this was like sticking stevie wonder in to pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th, down 3 with the bases loaded and 2 outs.
terrible. only 36 gems outta 107. this is ultra modern. 30% gem rate is WAY down.
not only that I still have 5 economy orders that have were logged in prior to this. just provides more proof they are putting the higher tiered stuff on the back burner.
@blurryface said:
107 cards, BULK sub
ultra modern
rec’vd: 7/11/20
logged: 9/11/20
popped: 3/12/21
terrible. only 36 gems outta 107. this is ultra modern. 30% gem rate is WAY down.
not only that I still have 5 economy orders that have were logged in prior to this. just provides more proof they are putting the higher tiered stuff on the back burner.
Why do you think there is a sudden change in grading strictness? Fear on the part of new graders? I wold think that if one was trying to expedite things, grades might become more lenient if anything. What gives? This is brutal. Or, is new managent cracking down in order to increase perceived value of 10s?
@blurryface said:
107 cards, BULK sub
ultra modern
rec’vd: 7/11/20
logged: 9/11/20
popped: 3/12/21
terrible. only 36 gems outta 107. this is ultra modern. 30% gem rate is WAY down.
not only that I still have 5 economy orders that have were logged in prior to this. just provides more proof they are putting the higher tiered stuff on the back burner.
Why do you think there is a sudden change in grading strictness? Fear on the part of new graders? I wold think that if one was trying to expedite things, grades might become more lenient if anything. What gives? This is brutal.
the consensus is to thwart new submissions. I don’t quite adhere to that just yet because that assumes they are going to penalize and charge folks to attempt to solve their problem. however when you think about how they downgraded people’s vouchers to bulk w the extensive back up one could draw the conclusion that they are doing anything and everything under the sun to play catch up. but at what costs? if for some reason they did decide to make grades extremely harsh in an attempt to thwart incoming subs, I would strongly advise that they rethink that scenario in its entirety. penalizing your customers who’ve already been in line is not the ethical thing to do nor the way to retain your core base. in fact, with the amount of new kids on the block and posts on IG of the new slabs, I think it this could seriously cause some irreparable damage, it was fine when there was only 3 options w really only 1 decent competitor. that’s not the case any longer. plus, people are to the point of being way past fed up. myself included.
Sucks this is my first post. I sent a package on Feb 26th for the Super Express service. Arrived Monday morning March 1st according to USPS. Wasn’t picked up until Friday March 5th. As of today still hasn’t even been logged. But someone has sent one March 1 arrival and logged March 3/4th and already has it back. Not a complaint post but it’s definitely frustrating. I’m just being as patient as I can.
@DaleDoback said:
Sucks this is my first post. I sent a package on Feb 26th for the Super Express service. Arrived Monday morning March 1st according to USPS. Wasn’t picked up until Friday March 5th. As of today still hasn’t even been logged. But someone has sent one March 1 arrival and logged March 3/4th and already has it back. Not a complaint post but it’s definitely frustrating. I’m just being as patient as I can.
super express shoulda been back in your hands a week ago. precisely my point above about vouchers being downgraded and penalizing higher tiered sub levels.
I have an express that arrived there 2/23. still hasn’t even been logged. it should be close to popping right now. instead, I’m paying $75/ for what used to be the economy level and what’s looking like is going to be atrocious & unfair grades.
I am relieved to see other people also believe the grading system seems to be much more strict now than it was 6 months ago. I am going with the theory that the new graders are attempting to be perfect at their jobs, in fear of assigning an incorrect grade, that it is causing them to 1) be overly critical and 2) err on the side of caution and give a lower grade. But you can’t change the rules in the middle of the game. When cards that were submitted a year ago or more received a 10 and a card that looks IDENTICAL now receives a 9, it is a little frustrating. Hopefully someone can relay all of these concerns to the right people and the problem can work itself out.
@parthur1607 said:
I am relieved to see other people also believe the grading system seems to be much more strict now than it was 6 months ago. I am going with the theory that the new graders are attempting to be perfect at their jobs, in fear of assigning an incorrect grade, that it is causing them to 1) be overly critical and 2) err on the side of caution and give a lower grade. But you can’t change the rules in the middle of the game. When cards that were submitted a year ago or more received a 10 and a card that looks IDENTICAL now receives a 9, it is a little frustrating. Hopefully someone can relay all of these concerns to the right people and the problem can work itself out.
i'd like to think i have a good eye. i'd also like to think i keep an open mind. we all have the g.o.d. here and there. they can't all be winners. with that being said, my ears are certainly perked after hearing rumblings and recently personal & repetitive experiences. on the brink of a pattern. i still have faith though. slumps do exist.
Five-card regular and one-card regular dual-grade submissions popped in the last two days.
Submitted together in January. Arrived January 21, logged February 1.
The one-card dual-grade submission popped March 11:
Item Grade: MINT 9
Auto Grade: MINT 9
2018 Topps Update US300 Juan Soto Batting
And the five-card one popped March 12:
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
1979 Topps 18 Wayne Gretzky
POOR 1
1978 Crack Campeonato Mundial Diego Maradona
FAIR 1.5
1978 Argentina Campeon Libro de Estampas Diego Maradona
Card
GOOD 2
1955 Topps 164 Roberto Clemente
Card
FAIR 1.5
1965 Topps 122 Joe Namath
Very pleased overall. My now seven-year-old got the Soto sig in person at Nats Winter Fest the winter after his rookie year. Just wanted to get the auto authenticated and put in a slab for protection. I was expecting a 3 or 3.5 on the Gretzky, a 2 on the Clemente, and a 1 on the rest, so 4, 2, a couple 1.5s and the lone 1 was a pleasant surprise. The Maradonas are difficult in anything above 1 because most were stuck in albums and later removed.
@mexpo75 said:
Wow! Cracking 4 or 5 PSA 9's takes a lot of basketballs.
No kidding! This was just a couple months back too. I can’t even imagine. I mean if you can sneak one into a 10 you can whiff on the others but if/when you miss? 🤢 It’s bigger basketballs and pocketbooks than I have, I know that for certain.
swing and a whiff is one thing but this was like sticking stevie wonder in to pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th, down 3 with the bases loaded and 2 outs.
You forgot the 0-2 count on Stevie as well.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
Your daily moment of zen -
Some good progress on Super Express . Seems they are roughly keeping a 1:1 pace on economy but that value modern and ultra modern are not moving. I need to look back at 3/8 and see if I accidentally copied a date in or whatever because those both went backwards. That has to be something I did...right?
I was unhappy to find that my $45 regular level subs are going to be treated with the same turnaround as bulk. However, after reading the comments about GOD returning, maybe a long wait could be beneficial. I don't understand tightening grading standards. With so much material already out in the market, implementing harsher grading standards just ticks off customers who get their subs back with better cards having lower grades than what they are buying on the secondary market. Consistency should be priority 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
@envoy982 said:
Some good progress on Super Express . Seems they are roughly keeping a 1:1 pace on economy but that value modern and ultra modern are not moving. I need to look back at 3/8 and see if I accidentally copied a date in or whatever because those both went backwards. That has to be something I did...right?
Perhaps you've missed this chart I've been posting daily in this thread ...
Summary: in the last 17 days, all service levels are plodding along on a daily basis, plus or minus a few days, with no real change in working down the backlog since March 1.
Exceptions to this are Regular, which has improved 58 days from March 1, now down to just 62 days behind, and Value - TCG, which has fallen 11 days further behind since March 1.
Yep. Was not 100% sure mine was authentic so glad to have it slabbed.
congrats! that's a pretty big card. how did it grade to what you we're expecting...better? worse?
you're grading dates also seem to coincide w the 15th time frame i was referring to above. anything after jan 15 getting pushed back from being finished in 35 days to almost 2 full months, so thanks for posting that too!
Yep. Was not 100% sure mine was authentic so glad to have it slabbed.
congrats! that's a pretty big card. how did it grade to what you we're expecting...better? worse?
you're grading dates also seem to coincide w the 15th time frame i was referring to above. anything after jan 15 getting pushed back from being finished in 35 days to almost 2 full months, so thanks for posting that too!
I thought it was about a 5, pretty new to grading so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I posted a scan here before I sent it out and someone said a 6. It’s a nice card but there’s a pretty banged up corner, I’ll post a new scan when it arrives. This was from my father’s collection and whenever we looked through the set I remember him saying how this was a tough card to find and he wasn’t sure if his was real, so like I said just glad it came back in a slab.
Yep. Was not 100% sure mine was authentic so glad to have it slabbed.
congrats! that's a pretty big card. how did it grade to what you we're expecting...better? worse?
you're grading dates also seem to coincide w the 15th time frame i was referring to above. anything after jan 15 getting pushed back from being finished in 35 days to almost 2 full months, so thanks for posting that too!
I thought it was about a 5, pretty new to grading so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I posted a scan here before I sent it out and someone said a 6. It’s a nice card but there’s a pretty banged up corner, I’ll post a new scan when it arrives. This was from my father’s collection and whenever we looked through the set I remember him saying how this was a tough card to find and he wasn’t sure if his was real, so like I said just glad it came back in a slab.
pops was right. it is a pretty tough card to land and there are definitely fakes out there. glad it turned out to be authentic, especially coming from your fathers collection. wouldn't of mattered if it only 1'd then, i'd assume! 😉
but taking the actual 4.5 vs a 6 as a positive towards the recent grading harshness talks. as key and tough cards like this one always seemed to be scrutinized a lil tougher, imo.
Is it just me or have things seemed to slow down dec idedly? I never thought when I shipped off several subs in July that I'd still be waiting....man, have things changed. I remember thinking that if I get them back by Thanksgiving, that'd be slow. LOL
Walk through improved by 3 days, regular was 8 days and value ultra modern was 6 days. Economy is still sitting at 8/16/20 for the 5th day in a row. I have a regular sub arrived 2/24 still not entered. I'm really not sure what to think about that.
@envoy982 said:
Walk through improved by 3 days, regular was 8 days and value ultra modern was 6 days. Economy is still sitting at 8/16/20 for the 5th day in a row. I have a regular sub arrived 2/24 still not entered. I'm really not sure what to think about that.
Still have an economy order in grading that arrived 8/7 and entered 9/4, this is getting ridiculous. What happens if value-ultra modern passes economy, PSA should reduce the grading fees to the bulk level if that happens.
Nice card! Surprised your Regular Submission was entered 9 days> @envoy982 said:
Walk through improved by 3 days, regular was 8 days and value ultra modern was 6 days. Economy is still sitting at 8/16/20 for the 5th day in a row. I have a regular sub arrived 2/24 still not entered. I'm really not sure what to think about that.
My Regular sub arrived a few days before yours (Feb 19) and was entered today and moved to Research & ID
@Scarlem21 - That's good news, hopefully. I was hoping it wouldn't be a 12+ week lag before it was entered. If it was, they could pick up a lot of time on other service levels if the CTD for regular caught up to subs that arrived on the CTD date. Then let those sit for a few weeks while they catch up. It seems they are sort of doing that already with the economy and quarterly as they are picking up several days in other areas. I'm sure there is a method to the madness.
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All true on an absolute basis. On a relative basis it would seem Regular is the only category that has made a significant 47 day advance on the backlog of orders in just 10 days.
If they make the same 57 day progress in the next 10 days, they will report Complete Through as of February 21 on March 20.
All other service levels seem to be plodding along day by day, with no significant advance, except for Value - TCG which has gone no where.
"regular service is now being completed in 20 days"
now that i've officially written it, does it make it true?
eta: more importantly! the 47 stated days is far worse than they were spitting them out prior to march 1st. plenty of hard evidence in the previous pages in this thread. so. they can publish 45 days tomorrow and it's still 1.5x worse than it was march 1st. 40 days the next day, still worse...
until it actually gets to 34 days or under, by definition, there have been zero improvements and can not claim that it's getting better.
and in total, i prolly have 15 regular/express orders sitting there which are looking like it's going to be 2 full months before popping. again, i can understand bulk being delayed. but at $50 & $75 a card, 2 months is the excrement of bulls.
I read your pain, and if they are claiming fantasy completed through dates, than all this is completely irrelevant.
But lets 'circle back' to my statement. If they make the same 57 day progress in the next 10 days, they will report Complete Through as of February 21 on March 20 -- meaning the backlog for Regular will only be 27 days on March 20.
Is this improvement for Regular?
Full disclosure: I'm just a noob with two lifetime orders that will likely take the better part of year to return.
take an ice cold glass of water. now take one drop of urine. insert that drop into the glass of ice water.
do we still have a glass of ice water or do we now have a glass of something else?
more importantly, would you be happy drinking it?
@thedutymon may have a spicy buyer for line 24.
Reminds me of a Man vs Wild episode I recently watched. He seemed quite pleased.
CTD Update ...
See below
Does any know how Non-Sports cards are being effected? I want to send some 77 blue star wars stuff in. Could I assume they are falling inline with Sports cards?
It has nothing to do with the type of card, just the service level you submit at...wait times will be similar.
Not much progress yesterday:
not a lot of poppage being reported in this thread either lately. by anyone. from going back and looking, i'm guesstimating there was some type of internal change around the 1/15/21 date. at least for the receiving and logging of higher dollar tiers.
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so this was pretty much the average timeframe. anywhere from 35-40 calendar days from the time just being received.
this is the current sub. approaching 45 calendar days and literally just hit grading earlier this week. took 19 days just to log. sad thing is i have several regs/expresses sent in shortly after that still have made it to grading. some aren't even logged.
so, with the kick to the back burner on premium priced subs, terrible grades coming out, a website that's slower than molasses, captcha that rarely works, timeframes getting much worse than better and warm fuzzy eta dates being released that don't hold water, they are doing a pretty good job of running off the core customer base for good. oh yeah, all this at twice the price. they've even had some of their bulk group subbers hit the pause button. away from this board, there are some serious rumblings and grievances being discussed and displayed. rightfully so in my opinion. reducing folks vouchers down to bulk level classification is/was just dirty. very dirty.
@blurryface - I would agree with your assessment. My vouchers show as economy, I don't recall if that is a change from how it used to be and I didn't notice it change but I never scrolled on the "my orders" page to see if the level was regular and moved to economy; I only noticed recently. My subs that arrived on 2/24 has not been entered but I have value and regular subs in that package. The regular has not been entered yet but regular is showing the CTD as 1/6 which would imply to me that it should be entered awfully soon and hit grading but I really don't expect that is going to happen. So my thought is that at some point, the CTD and the actual submission dates will converge and then what...? It says 12-15 weeks to enter but at the rate regular is moving the CTD will outpace what hasn't even been entered yet. Do they catch-up on other subs? Do they finally accept being caught-up on the regulars and try to keep a medium-pace on those?
Arrived 3/3, Logged 3/3, Shipped 3/5 (WT, already back in hand)
1 1 560XXX97 EXCELLENT 5 1986 Fleer 57 Michael Jordan Card
Arrived 3/3, Logged 3/3, Shipped 3/8 (SE, already back in hand)
1 1 560XXX18 GOOD+ 2.5 1954 Topps 128 Henry Aaron Card
2 1 560XXX19 POOR 1 1933 Goudey 53 Babe Ruth Card
The Jordan should be a 7, the Aaron should be a 3.5. The Ruth is right. These superstrict graders are killing me. Four more subs arrived on 3/3, not yet logged.
@scmavl - I’m not surprised in the MJ. One of the fb groups I’m in a guy cracked 4 or 5 PSA 9 Mj’s hoping for a 10. He got back 2 7’s an 8 and a 9. I think there may have also been a 7.5 in there as well but that may have been a different 9 I read about being cracked.
Wow! Cracking 4 or 5 PSA 9's takes a lot of basketballs.
the crossover & crack game is null and void at this juncture, imo
No kidding! This was just a couple months back too. I can’t even imagine. I mean if you can sneak one into a 10 you can whiff on the others but if/when you miss? 🤢 It’s bigger basketballs and pocketbooks than I have, I know that for certain.
Zoiks! That makes me sick just thinking about it. This was my first sub since 2013. My my, how things have changed.
swing and a whiff is one thing but this was like sticking stevie wonder in to pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th, down 3 with the bases loaded and 2 outs.
107 cards, BULK sub
ultra modern
rec’vd: 7/11/20
logged: 9/11/20
popped: 3/12/21
terrible. only 36 gems outta 107. this is ultra modern. 30% gem rate is WAY down.
not only that I still have 5 economy orders that have were logged in prior to this. just provides more proof they are putting the higher tiered stuff on the back burner.
Why do you think there is a sudden change in grading strictness? Fear on the part of new graders? I wold think that if one was trying to expedite things, grades might become more lenient if anything. What gives? This is brutal. Or, is new managent cracking down in order to increase perceived value of 10s?
the consensus is to thwart new submissions. I don’t quite adhere to that just yet because that assumes they are going to penalize and charge folks to attempt to solve their problem. however when you think about how they downgraded people’s vouchers to bulk w the extensive back up one could draw the conclusion that they are doing anything and everything under the sun to play catch up. but at what costs? if for some reason they did decide to make grades extremely harsh in an attempt to thwart incoming subs, I would strongly advise that they rethink that scenario in its entirety. penalizing your customers who’ve already been in line is not the ethical thing to do nor the way to retain your core base. in fact, with the amount of new kids on the block and posts on IG of the new slabs, I think it this could seriously cause some irreparable damage, it was fine when there was only 3 options w really only 1 decent competitor. that’s not the case any longer. plus, people are to the point of being way past fed up. myself included.
@blurryface
I agree 100% with your surmisal. It doesn't seem at all ethical to change grading standards mid-stream for any reason
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Sucks this is my first post. I sent a package on Feb 26th for the Super Express service. Arrived Monday morning March 1st according to USPS. Wasn’t picked up until Friday March 5th. As of today still hasn’t even been logged. But someone has sent one March 1 arrival and logged March 3/4th and already has it back. Not a complaint post but it’s definitely frustrating. I’m just being as patient as I can.
super express shoulda been back in your hands a week ago. precisely my point above about vouchers being downgraded and penalizing higher tiered sub levels.
I have an express that arrived there 2/23. still hasn’t even been logged. it should be close to popping right now. instead, I’m paying $75/ for what used to be the economy level and what’s looking like is going to be atrocious & unfair grades.
I am relieved to see other people also believe the grading system seems to be much more strict now than it was 6 months ago. I am going with the theory that the new graders are attempting to be perfect at their jobs, in fear of assigning an incorrect grade, that it is causing them to 1) be overly critical and 2) err on the side of caution and give a lower grade. But you can’t change the rules in the middle of the game. When cards that were submitted a year ago or more received a 10 and a card that looks IDENTICAL now receives a 9, it is a little frustrating. Hopefully someone can relay all of these concerns to the right people and the problem can work itself out.
i'd like to think i have a good eye. i'd also like to think i keep an open mind. we all have the g.o.d. here and there. they can't all be winners. with that being said, my ears are certainly perked after hearing rumblings and recently personal & repetitive experiences. on the brink of a pattern. i still have faith though. slumps do exist.
CTD Update ...
Five-card regular and one-card regular dual-grade submissions popped in the last two days.
Submitted together in January. Arrived January 21, logged February 1.
The one-card dual-grade submission popped March 11:
Item Grade: MINT 9
Auto Grade: MINT 9
2018 Topps Update US300 Juan Soto Batting
And the five-card one popped March 12:
VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4
1979 Topps 18 Wayne Gretzky
POOR 1
1978 Crack Campeonato Mundial Diego Maradona
FAIR 1.5
1978 Argentina Campeon Libro de Estampas Diego Maradona
Card
GOOD 2
1955 Topps 164 Roberto Clemente
Card
FAIR 1.5
1965 Topps 122 Joe Namath
Very pleased overall. My now seven-year-old got the Soto sig in person at Nats Winter Fest the winter after his rookie year. Just wanted to get the auto authenticated and put in a slab for protection. I was expecting a 3 or 3.5 on the Gretzky, a 2 on the Clemente, and a 1 on the rest, so 4, 2, a couple 1.5s and the lone 1 was a pleasant surprise. The Maradonas are difficult in anything above 1 because most were stuck in albums and later removed.
full soto sig! very nice.
and precisely why the superfractor no longer exists.
You forgot the 0-2 count on Stevie as well.
Your daily moment of zen -
Some good progress on Super Express . Seems they are roughly keeping a 1:1 pace on economy but that value modern and ultra modern are not moving. I need to look back at 3/8 and see if I accidentally copied a date in or whatever because those both went backwards. That has to be something I did...right?
I was unhappy to find that my $45 regular level subs are going to be treated with the same turnaround as bulk. However, after reading the comments about GOD returning, maybe a long wait could be beneficial. I don't understand tightening grading standards. With so much material already out in the market, implementing harsher grading standards just ticks off customers who get their subs back with better cards having lower grades than what they are buying on the secondary market. Consistency should be priority 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
Perhaps you've missed this chart I've been posting daily in this thread ...
Summary: in the last 17 days, all service levels are plodding along on a daily basis, plus or minus a few days, with no real change in working down the backlog since March 1.
Exceptions to this are Regular, which has improved 58 days from March 1, now down to just 62 days behind, and Value - TCG, which has fallen 11 days further behind since March 1.
Nothing really seems to be moving much at all over the last few days... what happened to the progress?
My Goatless Paki would be forever in your favor Sir!
YeeHaw!
Neil
1 card regular
Arrived 1/18
Entered 1/27
Shipped 3/16
that's the sp card, right?
Yep. Was not 100% sure mine was authentic so glad to have it slabbed.
congrats! that's a pretty big card. how did it grade to what you we're expecting...better? worse?
you're grading dates also seem to coincide w the 15th time frame i was referring to above. anything after jan 15 getting pushed back from being finished in 35 days to almost 2 full months, so thanks for posting that too!
I thought it was about a 5, pretty new to grading so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I posted a scan here before I sent it out and someone said a 6. It’s a nice card but there’s a pretty banged up corner, I’ll post a new scan when it arrives. This was from my father’s collection and whenever we looked through the set I remember him saying how this was a tough card to find and he wasn’t sure if his was real, so like I said just glad it came back in a slab.
pops was right. it is a pretty tough card to land and there are definitely fakes out there. glad it turned out to be authentic, especially coming from your fathers collection. wouldn't of mattered if it only 1'd then, i'd assume! 😉
but taking the actual 4.5 vs a 6 as a positive towards the recent grading harshness talks. as key and tough cards like this one always seemed to be scrutinized a lil tougher, imo.
congrats all the way around!
Is it just me or have things seemed to slow down dec idedly? I never thought when I shipped off several subs in July that I'd still be waiting....man, have things changed. I remember thinking that if I get them back by Thanksgiving, that'd be slow. LOL
21896526 10249512 06/23/20 08/17/20 N/A See Details 50 Value 2 - Modern
21893567 10249403 06/22/20 08/14/20 N/A See Details 30 Monthly Special 12
Moved to assembly today!
Walk through improved by 3 days, regular was 8 days and value ultra modern was 6 days. Economy is still sitting at 8/16/20 for the 5th day in a row. I have a regular sub arrived 2/24 still not entered. I'm really not sure what to think about that.
Still have an economy order in grading that arrived 8/7 and entered 9/4, this is getting ridiculous. What happens if value-ultra modern passes economy, PSA should reduce the grading fees to the bulk level if that happens.
Nice card! Surprised your Regular Submission was entered 9 days> @envoy982 said:
My Regular sub arrived a few days before yours (Feb 19) and was entered today and moved to Research & ID
@Scarlem21 - That's good news, hopefully. I was hoping it wouldn't be a 12+ week lag before it was entered. If it was, they could pick up a lot of time on other service levels if the CTD for regular caught up to subs that arrived on the CTD date. Then let those sit for a few weeks while they catch up. It seems they are sort of doing that already with the economy and quarterly as they are picking up several days in other areas. I'm sure there is a method to the madness.