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The find of my life... UPDATED 12/22/20

OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 22, 2020 5:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Good news from PCGS and GC;
Posted this coin several months ago and it just appeared as an item pending on Great Collections. Graded a straight G6 at PCGS. Auction date TBD. To recap, paid 15 cents for it in a batch of junk Buffalos. B)

Haven't been doing much with coins this year with club meetings and and shows cancelled, and got tired checking the internet daily. Spent a lot of time on photography instead, but I think my latest purchase of junk buffalos is going to reignite the thill of the hunt and get me to put down the camera once in a while. This is the second one I've found, although the last was at least 10 years ago and dateless.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You might want to mention that it's a 1916 DDO. Very nice pick-up. Let us know how it does at the grading service.

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice dude!

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do see a ghost of a date!
    That is a major find and rarity for sure.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2020 2:02PM

    @abcde12345 said:
    I do see a ghost of a date!
    That is a major find and rarity for sure.

    I can also the ghost of a date. The 1916 DDO doesn't need a date to be identified as such. The doubling in the Indian's feathers identify it as a 1916 DDO.

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @abcde12345 said:
    I do see a ghost of a date!
    That is a major find and rarity for sure.

    I can also the ghost of a date. The 1916 DDO doesn't need a date to be identified as such. The doubling in the Indian's feathers identify it as a 1916 DDO.

    I agree, yet wouldn't be so keen to own one without at least a smidgen of a date seen. Just lends a bit more credibility to the coin.
    Same with Chain Cents. Gotta see at least a bit of a date to be (more) drawn to the coin.

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome find! I’ve never had one quite that good. It inspires a lot of us...

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a helluva cherrypick, John! I've never cherried one myself. Congrats!!!!

  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 643 ✭✭✭

    Wish I could find some "Junk" like that, it has to be exciting just digging through and finding something as cool as that!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,481 ✭✭✭✭✭

    HOLY MOLI!!!

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  • ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s better than the 21 Merc I got from a junk bin as a teen.
    Great pick up!

  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a Buff-kinda-guy, but that's a killer find! Well done!

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow ... Nice find!

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    gratz!!

    love coins like that. probably a double-take moment.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The fact that some of the date remains is a big plus. It will probably do well once it is slabbed.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wowsers....I will have a drink in your honour.
    Well done @OnWithTheHunt .
    This one is for you!

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice find

  • steelieleesteelielee Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭

    Wow,nice.

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  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love to see excitement injected back into the hunt, I can feel it from here. Why settle with a “No F” variety for that date when there are so much bigger fish to fry. While I sometimes feel that some varieties are just going to be unattainable, post like this reignite hope.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on a super find...Pays to go through old stuff.... I have a pile I Buffs that I acquired perhaps 22/23 years ago... I should break them out and go through them one by one under a light....Cheers, RickO

  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Congratulations on a super find...Pays to go through old stuff.... I have a pile I Buffs that I acquired perhaps 22/23 years ago... I should break them out and go through them one by one under a light....Cheers, RickO

    If you are like me, you will need glasses where you didn't 23 years ago! :)

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree, yet wouldn't be so keen to own one without at least a smidgen of a date seen

    this has always been my thinking with very low grade coins/varieties. certainly there are diagnostics aside from the date that can help identify then, certainly they are worth quite a bit of money. just the same, I can't see the allure of a dateless coin. it's the same with a 1916 SLQ, even without the date we can know what it is and it's valuable, but it's the date......................

    nice find nonetheless. when I worked at a Coin shop I looked at thousands of dateless Buffalos till my eyes were sore and never found one. B)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave... Actually, I was wearing glasses 23 years ago... Have worn them since I was a kid... That being said, I know what you mean... now I have to get the coin in the right light to see the date/detail.... Cheers, RickO

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RickO, you better get to it before it's too late. your situation is sort of the type of thing I've battled my whole life: when younger and more capable there just wasn't enough time, now there's plenty of time but our bodies are starting to get real honest with us. :p

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2020 9:07AM

    You give all of us,,
    that coin collectors "inspiration ". Thanks and Congratulations :)

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool! I wonder how long it was just sitting there waiting for you.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic!

  • TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Think of all the people who didn’t give it a second look, let alone a first one due to the date being nearly gone.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that sure is a nice pick up I like

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on your find.

    Bask in the great feelings of succeeding on your hunt.

    However calling this coin the find of your life is not entirely accurate because....................................................

    ......................... you may find an even better coin tomorrow and thereafter.

  • shortnockshortnock Posts: 413 ✭✭✭

    Nice pickin'...and grinnin'.

  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    cool. nice payday.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,179 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that qualifies for a "You Suck!" award . Great find!

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome! One of the greatest doubled dies among US coins (after the 1955/55 of course)

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  • RockyMtnProspectorRockyMtnProspector Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know the feeling! Self-picking the 1919 Mercury DDO last month was great. Congratulations!

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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice find! Did you have to go through a lot of coins or was it quick? Just curious...

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    Awesome! One of the greatest doubled dies among US coins (after the 1955/55 of course)

    I disagree. The 16/16 is much rarer and the spread is actually wider than the 55. The 55 is more striking because it's a Class I doubled die, with all peripheral elements strongly doubled whereas the 16 is a Class V doubled die where only a portion of the elements are doubled. But where there is doubling on the 16/16 it is stronger than the 55.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am still partial to the 1961 DDR Proof Franklin.

    It has doubling that is quiet dramatic, is one a large coin, is on a silver coin, is on a proof coin and there are not very many of them (about 200-300) out of a mintage of over 3,000,000 if I recall correctly.

    The 1955 DDO cent has over 20,000 known.

    How many of the 1916 DDO Buffalo nickel are known?

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    @koynekwest
    It is a ok to disagree, but I think you would be hard pressed convincing most collectors that the '55 is not the king of the doubled dies.
    By "great" I do not mean having a wider spread, I mean "spectacular."
    The 1916/16 is awesome, and much rarer. But everyone with even a casual interest in coins knows the '55.

    I agree that most collectors would prefer the 55/55 if value is disregarded. It is a more spectacular doubled die overall with more eye appeal and is generally accepted to be the "king" of doubled dies.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 26, 2020 5:35PM

    "spectacular" is a good concept, though it can be defined in different ways.
    It could be done based on the volume of misplaced metal, for example.
    Spread and extent both affect that. So does the size of the coin (or you could normalize the size).
    Whether something is "well known" is a rather indirect measure.

    Ultimately, both the 1955 1c DDO and 1916 5c DDO are spectacular.
    It is hard to pick one over the other.
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1001204/rate-the-25-greatest-u-s-doubled-dies

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a kid and young coin collector there were two coins that we dreamt about: the 1909 S VDB (484,000 minted - still seared in my memory), and the 1955 doubled die.

    To me the 1955 will always be the king of DDs, regardless of value. :p

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:
    Wowsers....I will have a drink in your honour.
    Well done @OnWithTheHunt .
    This one is for you!

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    Congrats to the OP. Knowledge is power.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I alsolikethe 1945 P DDR nickel, primarily because I pikced up a LOC album of MS Jeffersons at a local BM shop that happended to contain a very nice MS example of that coin that amy even be FS. :)

    I also found a circulated example of this coin in the wild.

  • bigtonydallasbigtonydallas Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭

    WOW nice find!

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  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ElKevvo said:
    Nice find! Did you have to go through a lot of coins or was it quick? Just curious...

    K

    Thanks to all who commented. This find has definitely rejuvenated my interest. Sure others have wondered the same thing. I had been searching bulk lots of Buffalos for years, ranging from a few rolls to a couple of thousand coins looking for varieties and errors. This DDO came from a relatively small lot, 3 rolls of full dates, a couple of part dates and a couple of no dates. The whole lot cost about $75. While the 16 was the king of the bunch, coming out of the partial rolls, it also yielded some other nice finds, a 1926S in fine, a 14-D with parts of all four digits, several better dates in collectible condition and some high-grade late dates. I've searched far bigger lots with much less success. This will be going in for grading after I have a chance to show it around at my next club meeting. Will post updates after its graded. :)

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  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Huge score. Congrats! Reminder: Check my Buff mini hoard.

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  • ksammutksammut Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭

    Incredible! Awesome find

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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome find.

    Not knowing much about buffalo nickels I did a quick comparison to PCGS Photograde...I'd say it's a solid AG3, possible G4. Opinions on that evaluation?

  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ModCrewman said:
    Awesome find.

    Not knowing much about buffalo nickels I did a quick comparison to PCGS Photograde...I'd say it's a solid AG3, possible G4. Opinions on that evaluation?

    Agree, an easy AG3, could it squeak to G4? We'll find out eventually.

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