Anyone up for some Roosie Talk? - Thread #8 - PCGS Please read this thread and consider the H.o.F
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Okay Roosie fans, it's time for another installment of Roosie Talk #8. All other Roosie Talk threads are still active for archival conversation, pictures and fun info on our favorite little coin. This time I have historic news on the Roosvelt Dime.
I usually start another new Roosie Talk thread when something important has occured. The reason for this thread is of vital importance to this series.
The Halcyon Collection has listed some #1 Roosevelt Dime sets that are some of the best sets you will ever see in this series.
Link to set below: https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-dimes/roosevelt-dimes-major-sets/roosevelt-dimes-fb-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-proof-1946-present/alltimeset/169601
The 1946-Date Complete set w/Major Varieties Business and Proof, including the extremely rare and unique Proof 1975-No/S PCGS PR 68 pop (1/0). As of this writing The Halcyon Collection is the 1st set to have every single Roosevelt Dime ever made including the 4 No/S error dimes in the proof series. This set in my opinion is now worthy of PCGS giving the title of H.o.F. and it should receive it this year. PCGS, if you are reading this, MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
This set has 30 of 48 silver dimes in MS68FB, and 15 of the remaining 18 in MS67+FB. All 48 BS dimes are in MS67FB or higher, and the silver set is now #1 over D. L. Hansen's set by a wide margin of 0.12 set ratings and 0.03 in the GPA. That is huge!
The clad series from 1965-Date has some of the rarest clad dimes known. This set is currently only missing 2, just 2 FB dimes. I believe this will be the first ever complete FB set. Another reason for it to be a PCGS H.o.F. set. It includes 25 POP (1/0) dimes. Unbeatable and unbelieveable.
The early Halcyon Proofs 1950-1964 is missing only 2 DCams, but every coin is graded an incredible 68 or higher. Totally amazing!
The 1968-date proofs are PCGS H.o.F. worthy which includes the following coins:
1968-No/S PR68Cam (8/0)
1970-No/S PR69Cam (14/0)
1975-No/S PR 68 (1/0)
1983-No/S PR70DCam (9/0)
I've been collecting this series for going on 20 years. I have never seen a set such as this one and I look at it frequently. Collecting this series is easy as everyone says. "Hey if you want to get started in coin collecting you should start with Roosevelt dimes, they're plentiful and easy in high grades." I heard it a 100 times. Sure I would agree with that comment. If ur looking for MS coins in average grades such as 64-65-66, sure there are tons of them. BUT, to put a set of high end, world class dimes such as this takes countless contacts, dozens of collectors submitting dimes to PCGS countless crossovers, regrades and the cooperation of PCGS. Not to mention bidding and winning auctions and frankly having the $$$ to get the coins. It is time consuming and frankly it is not a 1 person job. The Halcyon set is 100% worthy of being the first Roosevelt dime set to be inducted into the PCGS H.o.F. and it should happen this year.
Later, Paul.
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I just saw the halcyon silver FB set posted and my jaw dropped. I have never seen so many Silver top pops in one set before, and that includes the ones I've built over the years. Couple the silvers with the clads and the Proofs and it's mind boggling. What an accomplishment. Congrats to Halcyon and YES I agree this set is HOF worthy. I'm on my knees bowing down.
Agreed! Most Impressive! I hope Halcyon never sells while Hansen is around.
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
Whether the set deserves Hall of Fame status even without the inclusion of the Finest known 1975 No S Dime might be the subject of a healthy debate (there has already been one very deserving HOF modern proof set 1968-date that was selected without that dime). But, WITH THE 1975 NO S DIME, it is a “no brainer” in my view.
John has done a great job over the past year carefully selecting the upgrades to his complete Mint State and Proof registry set and his acquisition of the 1975 No S Dime was “the icing on the cake” and the Vintage Port Wine to drink along with the cake! Congratulations John on building a remarkable Roosie collection!
Now, a final word about Nick, while he is on his knees. When Nick came up with the thought of placing the 1975 No S Dime in John’s set after the Heritage sale and Steve, Justin and myself closed a deal with Nick on behalf of John, the deal was done essentially verbally, with “handshakes”. More than a $500,000.00 Deal “on the word of 5 people”. No written contracts - who needs one when Nick is involved in the deal? Coin World wrote to me to ask me for the written document showing the record price of the No S Dime sale. They wanted to do a story on the coin. I told them that there was no document, just an old fashioned handshake. They said they couldn’t write the story of the latest record price for a Roosie dime without some backup paperwork that they always receive. I essentially told them “no worries” (and NN did a great story anyway without the paperwork). In my mind, CW had already missed the “Other story” equally compelling - doing a deal (with Nick) in the 21st Century the “old-fashioned way”!
Wondercoin
It is just unbelievable to see the Roosie Dime collection that Halcyon has assembled.
"Big John", (as I like to call him), is a true gentleman, and I am glad that I can call him my friend.
Thank you John for helping me along the way with my Roosie Dime collecting.
John is a true gentleman and his staggering collection is (obviously) second to none. More than worthy of the HOF!
Are there images associated with the set? If not, it seems folks are placing a collection of numbers in the HoF.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Tom
There were images and then they disappeared. I think PC in working on the issue now. It is not John’s intention to not show images.
Mitch. Thank you for the kind words. But I have to give a BIG shout out to one of the behind the scenes players. Paul Gunsallus (Stooge). I was on vacation when the 75 no S deal went down and one of my calls was to Paul. John’s accomplishment is second to none, but as Paul stated above this was a team effort and Paul was at the forefront. I thank you Paul for all your help. John will be posting shortly. Again...... The Halcyon Roosevelt Dime set is second to none and HOF bound.
Nick
Yes, I negligently did omit Paul. Not just behind the scenes on the 75 No S Dime, but, the OP on (8) Roosie threads spanning the years! And, a leading authority on understanding all the Roosie Dime series coins! Outstanding job Paul!
Wondercoin
Wow, I just woke to find these kind words and I'm blushing of course. Thanks for the pat on the back fellas, I appreciate it.
Later, Paul.
Roosie Gang Rules
Congrats John!
What a terrific set you've put together, one I doubt will ever be passed. It's also an honor to know a few of my old coins now reside in the Top Set. I've asked my wife to place on my headstone:
"I knew, and ate dinner with Big John"
First of all, it's simply an amazing feeling to be part of such an incredible group - one not only made up of fellow Roosie collectors, but more importantly made up of the highest quality people around. You've embraced me as one of your own since the beginning - though only after going through Nick's below-the-radar screen interview process to make sure I wasn't an ass (Billy - no comment!). Needless to say I'm proud to call all of you friends.
BTW - I don't know where the 'Big John' thing started - maybe it was Danny. It's kinda like calling a giant mob enforcer "Tiny" - I'm not big at all!
As for the sets, Paul summed it up eloquently. I (we!) couldn't have surpassed Hansen as #1 in 24 individual Roosie sets through simple monetary expenditure alone - obviously that's a playing field none of us can compete on. Everyone here has played a part, and as such everyone should feel the Halcyon sets are a little bit ours as The Rosie Gang (no Gary, the 75-No S can't be your "part"!). Along the way you've also all educated me - I'm still trying to build my knowledge to rival yours when it comes to these shiny silver colored discs.
I won't comment on the HOF discussion - not my place. And if I did my 83-year old career military dad would smack me upside the head.
The only thing I will say is that the work here with the Sets isn't done - there are always more Roosies out there to look through. That's the fun part!
Ok, "Tiny" it is...
Brad Pitt
How Roosie Royalty Acts:
Danny speaks softly and carries a big stick: John speaks softly and carries a bludgeon; Nick speaks softly and fells redwoods for toothpicks when he’s bored. 😉
Love you guys.
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
Nick speaks softly?
The Rosie Gang! I love um all...
Images are now up. Looks like the issue has been resolved. You can click on the link in Paul's first post to see pics of quite a few of John's dimes including a pic of the 75 No-S Proof Dime.
I went through all of the pretty pictures. Wow, super stuff there!
Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners.
Fantastic! Thank you, those are some coins!!!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
A few recent upgrades to my set.
MS67+FB
MS67+FB
MS67
MS67
http://www.ebay.com/sch/rs8199/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
@Rob41281 , those are all really nice additions! The 51-S is probably my personal favorite of the bunch.
Love the "46-S. That's my kinda coin.
Later, Paul.
All nice!!. I just love these little spheres.
Okay, I have been going back and forth for a few weeks now about selling off some or all of my Roosevelt Dimes. I really don't have a reason other than I have lost serious interest in it. I believe my collecting interests have shifted and I'm at a stand still with my collection.
For now I want to keep the base set of my silvers 1946-1964.
So, I'm offering my FS Varieties and my clads 1965-Date here for anyone who wants to possibly add to their sets.
None of my clads have been back for regrade, nor have any of my Varieties. I have a few that certainly deserves upgrades and will give my opinion so.
Here is my set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/half-dimes/roosevelt-dimes-major-sets/roosevelt-dimes-fb-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-1946-present/publishedset/157979
Later, Paul.
You will get the fever back. Good luck with the sales
Martin
Paul. Think carefully about this.
The other day, a thought entered my mind... I want my silver set in the top 5 again! The thought came out of nowhere. I started missing many of the coins I “let go”. Don’t let this happen to you Paul. 😂
Wondercoin
P.S. anyone have any smoking hot deals on Silver dimes that would improve my Floundering set? 🤣
PM sent
PM sent
Hey Mitch,
Not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I might be willing to part with some of the coins in my backup set:
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/half-dimes/roosevelt-dimes-specialty-sets/roosevelt-dimes-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1946-1964/publishedset/212361
PM me if you see anything of interest.
Here's a few just graded for viewing pleasure.
1950 MS67+ (upgraded from MS67)
1954-D MS67+ (submitted raw) Thanks to keyman64 for the great pick!!!
Oh, special thanks to Gary U for submitting at Vegas...
“The Halcyon Collection - Roosevelt Dimes FB Basic Set, Circulation Strikes and Proof (1946-Present)
Wow! Not only does this set contain 27 single finest known coins, it has a large number of coins that are tied for finest known as well. With over 250 coins required, this set has a Set Rating of 70.71.”
Congratulations to John on this prestigious award this year! Once again, we’ll done.
Unless I missed it, it doesn’t appear that there were any “Hall of Fame” awards this year for either classic or modern sets?
Wondercoin
Mitch
isn't that last years award announcement 2019. I don't think the 2020 awards are out yet
Just made this one. MS67+
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“Mitch
isn't that last years award announcement 2019. I don't think the 2020 awards are out yet”
What an idiot I am sometimes! Lol.
Wondercoin
That's a super 64D, great color!!!!!
beautiful coin.. Did you submit raw? Was it upgrade?
Just wanted to say a few more things here. I've answered all PM's as best I could and hope everyone is happy.
I'm not giving up on Roosevelt Dimes just so you know and selling is something I find realitively easier than when I sold my first set to Nick. I see that coin collectors are temporary stewards and it's nice to see others get the enjoyment out of what I collect.
Danny made a deal for 25 coins. It gives me nothing but great pleasure to see his set grow and become a MAJOR contender for one of the all time great sets. He is very pleased with the deal as I am. Just so you know I suck at coming up with prices for coins to sell. Not sure how Wondercoin does it everyday but hey, he's gifted. After I did the math, I got 1 coin back in trade. A very difficult 1963 MS66+FB and made $13.75 overall from coins bought-to-sold. I pride myself in not losing my shirt and making a coin in the process (No pun intended).
All dimes go out on Monday and I will PM with tracking #'s.
I'm planning on making a separate thread for remaing coins to sell here in this forum as we are allowed 1 selling thread d/t the slow forum.
As Harry Potter would say...Look for my OWL!
Later, Paul.
Paul:
You are such a gentleman. Very fair with me on your ask prices. Of the 27 coins
that I had an interest in, you sold me 25. (And we didn't even haggle over price.) I passed on one coin, 1982D 67FB,
because we both agree that the Pop of this coin is really screwed up for some reason, which makes pricing impossible. The other coin that I passed on was because I have an opportunity to buy it elsewhere....Thank you so very much for your kindness, and willingness to help out a fellow Roosie collector. Stay safe my friend....
Regards,
Danny
Raw and went 7+ first time through. Might try for an 8.
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My 54D did the same. Maybe we should begin a non-FB top set thread to share...few seem to care what we low life's make.
Not true, Jim! We all love Roosies equally. I’ve spent a lot of time building up my non-FB set to #1 and usually find that there are higher quality non-band coins out there with equally awesome toning. Keep up the hunt!
let me know when someone makes an MS69 silver no-band
Note the "wink" attached to the end of the statement. It was said in jest...
Some recent additions to the registry set that were just TV’d. Grades in order of the pics.
67+
67
67
67
67FB
http://www.ebay.com/sch/rs8199/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
Nice group, Rob!
Yes, nice group indeed. Not much to not like...
Love the obverse toning on the 1961D, my kind of look.
Someone needed to bump our thread, so here's a coin from my Raw Set I'm thinking about grading. Something about the Purple that I like.
Ya I think its high time to give that guy a nice plastic tomb.
Later, Paul.
@lablover , Nice, I'm a big fan of blue and purple toning! I'm thinking that coin might get treated better at NGC than PCGS, but what do I know?