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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Are any of the transport businesses even playing with fuel cells anymore? What's the overall energy efficiency of the supposedly "green" energy media? You have to drive a Tesla close to 200,000 miles before it you even start to lower your carbon footprint.

    Pure unmitigated nonsense (or maybe propaganda), especially for people with solar roofs.

    Numerous studies have shown the higher carbon footprint for electric cars. Google it. Car and driver did a piece in it within the last 2 years. There's also technical parties on the subject. > @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Are any of the transport businesses even playing with fuel cells anymore? What's the overall energy efficiency of the supposedly "green" energy media? You have to drive a Tesla close to 200,000 miles before it you even start to lower your carbon footprint.

    Pure unmitigated nonsense (or maybe propaganda), especially for people with solar roofs.

    Do your research. Unless you get your electricity from nuclear, solar or wind power, the carbon footprints of electric cars are equivalent to conventional but at much higher cost.

    https://wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-not-green-think/

    https://carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-electric-vehicles-help-to-tackle-climate-change

    https://interestingengineering.com/a-tesla-model-3-produces-more-co2-than-a-diesel-car-study-says

    You're taking the results of a single (disputed and flawed) study done in Germany and making a blanket declaration. That's what the headlines of those articles are based on, and they all go on to disclaim it in the text.

    The only potentially salient point is that the mining of rare elements for batteries creates polluted earth, but our argument is about carbon footprint. Furthermore, fracking creates a ton of ancillary pollution as well.

    But thanks for playing.

    There are numerous such studies. How many do you want me to post? The point is not that over the long haul the electric isn't cleaner. The point is that, especially if your local power generation is coal-based, you only win over the long haul.

    And that "win" comes at a high price based on the price differential between a 50 mpg economy car and an electric car. As a result, you are a decade or two away from gas-powered vehicles being overtaken by electrics, which was the original point: Oil is far from dead.

    It is simply not as direct or obvious as people want you to think.

    https://thegreenage.co.uk/tech/environmental-footprint-electric-cars/

    shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Shades-of-Green-Full-Report.pdf

    https://www.businessinsider.com/building-electric-cars-how-much-pollution-versus-gas-powered-vehicles-2019-11

    Feel free to post as many flawed studies as you want. It doesn't bolster your argument. I haven't read this latest batch but the previous group were pure clickbait.

    You reinforce this by mentioning coal which is dying in spite of idiotic politicians trying to save it.

    And you cap it off with the strawman "oil is far from dead". The point I was arguing was your claim of having to drive an EV 200k miles to yield carbon savings over an ICE.

    Oil is still alive due to cost and infrastructure issues, but those will be solved in time.

    t depends on the car you use for comparison. Actually, I think the 200k isn't so much the carbon as the cost savings. Oil is far from dead is not a straw man, it was the original point. This all stemmed from my statement that I would (and did) buy oil at $12 because it couldn't stay there. Your response was that I should invest in hydrogen fuel cells instead.

    Your bias (and arrogance) are fully noted. It should be possible to carry on a civilized discussion without the attitude. I won't even bother to wave my credentials at you. I also avoided posting more scientific studies because of the audience.

    The most important point is simply this: the carbon cost of production is a major component of the total carbon footprint of any vehicle. Further, it is inarguable that the carbon cost of production of electric cars is significantly higher than gas-powered vehicles.

    Most studies suggest that even with moderate to low-carbon production of electricity it takes 18 months to 2 years to make up the difference in production carbon. It takes far longer to make up the $ cost difference.

    All of these studies depend on the comparison vehicle. If you compare a full electric to an SUV, it looks better for electric. If you compare full electric to an efficient compact car, it looks less good.

    And electricity generation methods are key. In 5 of 31 Chinese provinces, electric vehicles actually have a HIGHER carbon footprint than gas-powered vehicles due to the heavy use of coal.

    https://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306261919316101?casa_token=781TKHcXBOYAAAAA:7O6cevjdqEQDBpPmlcfn68Pz0d5jSI_zbhcgE4zw18jluHWS6Qj7Fmb2jMDnDjTsn0Axx_eZ

    You stated:

    You have to drive a Tesla close to 200,000 miles before it you even start to lower your carbon footprint.

    which is the entirety of what I called "nonsense". Given that, anything about how long oil is likely to be with us is diversionary (i.e., a strawman). I also said nothing about hydrogen cells.

    Now you state:

    Further, it is inarguable that the carbon cost of production of electric cars is significantly higher than gas-powered vehicles.

    Here's the most rigorous and authoritative assessment I could find on the topic, published by The Union of Concerned Scientists:

    https://ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/11/Cleaner-Cars-from-Cradle-to-Grave-full-report.pdf

    I refer you to page 3:

    A full-size long-range (265 miles per charge) BEV, with its larger battery, adds about six tons of emissions, which increases manufacturing emissions by 68 percent over the gasoline version. But this electric vehicle results in 53 percent lower overall emissions compared with a similar gasoline vehicle (see Figure ES-2).

    In other words, the extra emissions associated with electric vehicle production are rapidly negated by reduced emissions from driving. Comparing an average midsize midrange BEV with an average midsize gasoline-powered car, it takes just 4,900 miles of driving to “pay back”—i.e., offset—the extra global warming emissions from producing the BEV. Similarly, it takes 19,000 miles with the full-size long-range BEV compared with a similar gasoline car. Based on typical usages of these vehicles, this amounts to about six months’ driving for the midsize midrange BEV and 16 months for the full-size long-range BEV.

    Again, as I mentioned somewhere above, the 200,000 miles was the cost recovery not the carbon recovery. I mixed them up. Never type in the middle of the night.

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep me updated

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well as I have not yet got through all of your fantastic stories yet I am committed to get back to you because I’m feeling so blessed with all of you guys you have helped me so much over the last four years I give you my biggest hug and heart love you guys to death I’ll please please also know that I had my system taken down for a while I had a breach and I took care of it so I’m not ignoring you or anyone else I’m trying to make sure that everybody is protected so God bless you guys have a fantastic Sunday and I will Twitter or text or talk to you guys all soon love you bye Kathleen

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. I feel so much better now.

  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Show your goods anybody has updates to report today? Been Busy today up at 6 am will be going till 10 pm. Great day to be in gold don't you think?

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  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant
    I just love the above post. You're giving those kids a childhood they'll always remember fondly

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have so busy I completely missed this post

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  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2020 4:51PM

    @DCW said:
    @Hydrant
    I just love the above post. You're giving those kids a childhood they'll always remember fondly

    Thank you. And yes, a childhood they'll always remember fondly. Just like my my parents and grandparents did for me. Right here on the same ranch. So much trouble and uncertainty today. My only concern right now?..........a childhood they will remember fondly. Thank you Sir.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2020 6:30PM

    @cowbaby said:

    Me busy? Ha, Welcome to the jungle. onion and greens patch to left of pic. Okra and watermelons behind the corn. Yes it keeps going weeds and all.

    Weeds? Never ending. Okra? Watermelon? The best!

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wheel of Fortune never gets old. Neither does Vanna.

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  • highwayman1highwayman1 Posts: 107 ✭✭✭

    In terms of coins, I've started to dabble in coins again for the first time since leaving the industry almost a decade ago, and already have got together 10ish rolls for dollar pre-sort (not counting bucket). Not to mention lots of nicer material that will need to go in standard.

    "He who loves silver will not be satisfied with silver, nor he who loves abundance, with increase. This also is vanity.
    When goods increase, they increase who eat them -- so what profit have the owners, except to see them with their eyes?"
    "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all.
    For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil."
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    My office has never been cleaner and more organized! I've tried to help as many people who couldnt find certin supplies as I could!

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cowbaby that corn is way more then knee high in July. You got thigh high going on

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kkathyl said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Are any of the transport businesses even playing with fuel cells anymore? What's the overall energy efficiency of the supposedly "green" energy media? You have to drive a Tesla close to 200,000 miles before it you even start to lower your carbon footprint.

    Pure unmitigated nonsense (or maybe propaganda), especially for people with solar roofs.

    Numerous studies have shown the higher carbon footprint for electric cars. Google it. Car and driver did a piece in it within the last 2 years. There's also technical parties on the subject. > @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Are any of the transport businesses even playing with fuel cells anymore? What's the overall energy efficiency of the supposedly "green" energy media? You have to drive a Tesla close to 200,000 miles before it you even start to lower your carbon footprint.

    Pure unmitigated nonsense (or maybe propaganda), especially for people with solar roofs.

    Do your research. Unless you get your electricity from nuclear, solar or wind power, the carbon footprints of electric cars are equivalent to conventional but at much higher cost.

    https://wired.com/2016/03/teslas-electric-cars-might-not-green-think/

    https://carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-electric-vehicles-help-to-tackle-climate-change

    https://interestingengineering.com/a-tesla-model-3-produces-more-co2-than-a-diesel-car-study-says

    You're taking the results of a single (disputed and flawed) study done in Germany and making a blanket declaration. That's what the headlines of those articles are based on, and they all go on to disclaim it in the text.

    The only potentially salient point is that the mining of rare elements for batteries creates polluted earth, but our argument is about carbon footprint. Furthermore, fracking creates a ton of ancillary pollution as well.

    But thanks for playing.

    There are numerous such studies. How many do you want me to post? The point is not that over the long haul the electric isn't cleaner. The point is that, especially if your local power generation is coal-based, you only win over the long haul.

    And that "win" comes at a high price based on the price differential between a 50 mpg economy car and an electric car. As a result, you are a decade or two away from gas-powered vehicles being overtaken by electrics, which was the original point: Oil is far from dead.

    It is simply not as direct or obvious as people want you to think.

    https://thegreenage.co.uk/tech/environmental-footprint-electric-cars/

    shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Shades-of-Green-Full-Report.pdf

    https://www.businessinsider.com/building-electric-cars-how-much-pollution-versus-gas-powered-vehicles-2019-11

    Feel free to post as many flawed studies as you want. It doesn't bolster your argument. I haven't read this latest batch but the previous group were pure clickbait.

    You reinforce this by mentioning coal which is dying in spite of idiotic politicians trying to save it.

    And you cap it off with the strawman "oil is far from dead". The point I was arguing was your claim of having to drive an EV 200k miles to yield carbon savings over an ICE.

    Oil is still alive due to cost and infrastructure issues, but those will be solved in time.

    t depends on the car you use for comparison. Actually, I think the 200k isn't so much the carbon as the cost savings. Oil is far from dead is not a straw man, it was the original point. This all stemmed from my statement that I would (and did) buy oil at $12 because it couldn't stay there. Your response was that I should invest in hydrogen fuel cells instead.

    Your bias (and arrogance) are fully noted. It should be possible to carry on a civilized discussion without the attitude. I won't even bother to wave my credentials at you. I also avoided posting more scientific studies because of the audience.

    The most important point is simply this: the carbon cost of production is a major component of the total carbon footprint of any vehicle. Further, it is inarguable that the carbon cost of production of electric cars is significantly higher than gas-powered vehicles.

    Most studies suggest that even with moderate to low-carbon production of electricity it takes 18 months to 2 years to make up the difference in production carbon. It takes far longer to make up the $ cost difference.

    All of these studies depend on the comparison vehicle. If you compare a full electric to an SUV, it looks better for electric. If you compare full electric to an efficient compact car, it looks less good.

    And electricity generation methods are key. In 5 of 31 Chinese provinces, electric vehicles actually have a HIGHER carbon footprint than gas-powered vehicles due to the heavy use of coal.

    https://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306261919316101?casa_token=781TKHcXBOYAAAAA:7O6cevjdqEQDBpPmlcfn68Pz0d5jSI_zbhcgE4zw18jluHWS6Qj7Fmb2jMDnDjTsn0Axx_eZ

    You stated:

    You have to drive a Tesla close to 200,000 miles before it you even start to lower your carbon footprint.

    which is the entirety of what I called "nonsense". Given that, anything about how long oil is likely to be with us is diversionary (i.e., a strawman). I also said nothing about hydrogen cells.

    Now you state:

    Further, it is inarguable that the carbon cost of production of electric cars is significantly higher than gas-powered vehicles.

    Here's the most rigorous and authoritative assessment I could find on the topic, published by The Union of Concerned Scientists:

    https://ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/11/Cleaner-Cars-from-Cradle-to-Grave-full-report.pdf

    I refer you to page 3:

    A full-size long-range (265 miles per charge) BEV, with its larger battery, adds about six tons of emissions, which increases manufacturing emissions by 68 percent over the gasoline version. But this electric vehicle results in 53 percent lower overall emissions compared with a similar gasoline vehicle (see Figure ES-2).

    In other words, the extra emissions associated with electric vehicle production are rapidly negated by reduced emissions from driving. Comparing an average midsize midrange BEV with an average midsize gasoline-powered car, it takes just 4,900 miles of driving to “pay back”—i.e., offset—the extra global warming emissions from producing the BEV. Similarly, it takes 19,000 miles with the full-size long-range BEV compared with a similar gasoline car. Based on typical usages of these vehicles, this amounts to about six months’ driving for the midsize midrange BEV and 16 months for the full-size long-range BEV.

    Again, as I mentioned somewhere above, the 200,000 miles was the cost recovery not the carbon recovery. I mixed them up. Never type in the middle of the night.

    I add Rock star😎

    what the heck, let's add one more quote

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks Guys its always a blessing to be able to get on this board and chat with normal folks :)

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:

    @cowbaby said:

    Me busy? Ha, Welcome to the jungle. onion and greens patch to left of pic. Okra and watermelons behind the corn. Yes it keeps going weeds and all.

    Weeds? Never ending. Okra? Watermelon? The best!

    Those plants are amazing. Wow

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinscratchFever said:
    Kathy, you have been quite productive! This time off for me has been very good and bad for my business. Good because I have had time to slow down enough to find and patch the holes in my business accounts. Lots of unnecessary bills, interest payments, and late fees. Along with time to find new vendors with better pricing and evaluating employee performance.
    Bad because business is down 50% but after this is over I will be much stronger because of it, provided we survive it.

    @yosclimber said: And I have been working on a nonlinear statistics problem (Multinomial Logit with Quasi-Complete Separation).
    What the hell does that even mean :D

    I am not sure what we will have remaining anymore. I like helping people and being kind to others, that type of behavior is not respected much anymore. We pray today that people wise up and realize the country needs to open up now. I had someone try to tell me "we are in a global market" now things are different. we have been in a global market for thousands of years. SMH. I agree about providing we survive it. We here knew about Gold and Silver and we did the right things, but others are stealing the bread which is unacceptable. I will stay true to who I am but others seem to be so lost. I hope for the best pray for those who lost ALL. Have a great weekend! Gold & Silver is Up so we must at least know that is a good thing for most of us here :). I think I need to go run a few miles and blow off some steam. Stay true be kind and loving is all I ask for these days. Hey my systems are back!!!

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1Mike1 said:
    A lot of your photos have subtle (and some not so subtle) political advertising.

    we will try to keep them out. The reasoning is, I was helping a man with a stand for free. He was working a Trump stand and he was so stressed out. As a Christian and a person who could see his stress, I jumped in and helped him out for a few weeks for free. So I would come home with items from his stand. I did buy food from other vendors I helped out too but don't want to show that in my pictures here. Then a band of haters tried to steal my IT. I had to take it all down. It is no easy rebuilding your systems or trusting after what I had endured over the past 2 months.
    those who really know me know what's up and understand. I will try to keep my pictures from annoying you or others based on anything but the love of coins.

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @markelman1125 said:
    @air4mdc I was actually thinking of starting out a module and when I get the chance I can add on 👍. It’s a standard plywood 24in x 24in from Lowe’s so I think it’s possible to make several and put them together. The only barriers is space. If I can find room, expanding the layout may be possible but for now I got to finish what I am working on now. I have updates though

    Is it all finished?

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 24, 2020 10:27AM

    Well I am glad you all had your chuckle at my expense here thank you. Had a lot of stuff occur you can call me and ask I will tell you. If you don't care to know then don't ask. Stay cool. God bless you all. I see writing and Love. Bless your hearts your so wonderful.

    How did you like 2020 gold basketball coins? Did you pick any up? Have a great weekend!! Thank you all so very much.

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  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Wheel of Fortune never gets old. Neither does Vanna.

    She hasn't aged a bit in nearly 40 years.....

    My niece worked for Merv Griffin in the early to mid 1980s and got me tickets to the studio audience while in California on vacation. The photo is probably from 1985 or so.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Worked straight through all this, crazy amounts of OT, can't find help for $30 bucks an hour.

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  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

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  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kkathyl said:

    @markelman1125 said:
    @air4mdc I was actually thinking of starting out a module and when I get the chance I can add on 👍. It’s a standard plywood 24in x 24in from Lowe’s so I think it’s possible to make several and put them together. The only barriers is space. If I can find room, expanding the layout may be possible but for now I got to finish what I am working on now. I have updates though

    Is it all finished?

    Hopefully he will post the completed picture. I seen his progression pictures and let me tell you that this module is museum quality. He is a very talented person.

  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice train set. Brings back fond memories of the kids ( and Dad's ) train set competition in the neighborhood back in the day.

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    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @chesterb said:

    @derryb said:

    @chesterb said:
    More propaganda...

    The thread lasted this long because you just revived it from the dead. Good luck this election and with your pyramid sales business in your sig line.

    didn't realize a t-shirt could stir such anger. sign of the times i guess. lol

    What anger? There's no anger! The OP has continued to post with subliminal political references and her pyramid business. It's a pattern that is even in this thread she started. I just pointed it out...again.

    @Kkathyl said:
    Thank you @chesterb it takes a big man to kick a women around on the boards who helps many regardless of who they are. Here a coin picture for you!

    LOL not kicking around a woman. What in my post has anything to do with your gender? I was just stating you have habitually posted political things that is against the rules of the forum. I did state good luck which is sign of good will! So good luck and best wishes!

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just sit in a dark room by myself 9 hrs a day reading X-rays - other than wearing a mask when I leave the room, not much has changed .......

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2020 10:08AM

    Just making money in RCI

    Netflix shows, good burgers n beer.

    Strong online sales.

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  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2020 12:33PM

    I bought a few expensive coins, sold many others, and made a baby. Good times.

  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I work in a veterans hospital Monday thru Friday. Nothing has changed for me.

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