Unexpected gold pick up today, at the time I bought it, I was buying it under melt! But it pulled back enough that I’m over melt a little, but, for $600, I think this was a sweet little pick up:
Admittedly, I did not know one of these existed, I didn’t know they were making fractional gold in 1981.
It seems that that year they only did the quarter, the half, and the full ounce, nothing smaller until later on. Definitely an interesting little find.
@asheland said:
Unexpected gold pick up today, at the time I bought it, I was buying it under melt! But it pulled back enough that I’m over melt a little, but, for $600, I think this was a sweet little pick up:
Admittedly, I did not know one of these existed, I didn’t know they were making fractional gold in 1981.
It seems that that year they only did the quarter, the half, and the full ounce, nothing smaller until later on. Definitely an interesting little find.
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Looks like a nice grade. Many of the 1980s Libertads (gold and silver) often seem to be pretty beat up.
For right around melt, you have a beautiful quarter oz of Gold, with a limited run, with the added bonus of PCGS authentication and the extra liquidity that comes with a TPG.
@LukeMarshall said:
For right around melt, you have a beautiful quarter oz of Gold, with a limited run, with the added bonus of PCGS authentication and the extra liquidity that comes with a TPG.
Well done!
Thank you! I just love the thing, I’m trying to find a silver one that is just as pretty in the same grade, but of course that’s gonna cost me up the nose!
Today’s pick up, this bar is super cool, but after this, and the other one that I’ve got coming in the mail I will post that when I get it I gotta take a break from buying for a while lol
The "Gold Standard" 1 oz bars on this thread prompted me to dig up these photos of a product from that company. My recollection is that these prototypes were distributed to legislators as part of a lobbing effort.
@OnlyGoldIsMoney said:
A 3 oz bar from my stash of old poured bars. Seemingly dated 1977 and no doubt given out to clients by Eden Investments.
I have no idea who produced these bars. Some on ebay have been very optimistically priced IMO.
This is a fantasy piece made by Dennis England around 2010 among various other designs. A 4 oz one just sold on eBay for $2550! His bars, while newer, are insanely collectible for some reason. I sold a 3 Oz “goldbugs” bar for $1900 recently.
That’s a great looking bar too. It will go well with your new serial numbered 20 oz.er
They really are cool. The 3 bars in my pic are part of my permanent collection. I just like them so much so I don’t mind the premium I paid for them. Although with this recent run-up, I’m ahead of the game on paper.
We have very similar interests in collecting. Pre-33 gold and cool poured silver bars are things I just can’t let go of.
Im sure you share the same sentiment. I know I’ve kept an eye out for your 1908 Saint with motto on the BST forum for quite a while, but it never shows up there. 😜
@Downtown1974 said:
That’s a great looking bar too. It will go well with your new serial numbered 20 oz.er
They really are cool. The 3 bars in my pic are part of my permanent collection. I just like them so much so I don’t mind the premium I paid for them. Although with this recent run-up, I’m ahead of the game on paper.
We have very similar interests in collecting. Pre-33 gold and cool poured silver bars are things I just can’t let go of.
Im sure you share the same sentiment. I know I’ve kept an eye out for your 1908 Saint with motto on the BST forum for quite a while, but it never shows up there. 😜
Yes, indeed! The pre33 Gold is a soft spot for me, and old poured silver bars also!
@Downtown1974 said:
Love those 20 oz. JMs! Nice heft to them.
I was inspired by yours. I’ve always liked them myself. I finally paid up for this one.
I’ve seen the picture of the group of yours recently. I can’t remember where, any chance you could post it again here?
So if we post up a picture it influences people to buy. Who would have thought
I have a JM 20 and an Engelhard 20.
Both bought years ago and complement each other.
My recent pickup made my wallet squawk.
@Downtown1974 said:
Love those 20 oz. JMs! Nice heft to them.
I was inspired by yours. I’ve always liked them myself. I finally paid up for this one.
I’ve seen the picture of the group of yours recently. I can’t remember where, any chance you could post it again here?
So if we post up a picture it influences people to buy. Who would have thought
I have a JM 20 and an Engelhard 20.
Both bought years ago and complement each other.
My recent pickup made my wallet squawk.
@USMC_6115 said:
And another.. things are slowing down with the few left I need
Nice bar slowing down on the few left you Need? Or Want?
Did you happen to see the one on mineral exchange?
It was over $400 last time I looked.
You're absolutely correct! Want, not need.. and it changes by the minute
I'm not familiar with the "mineral exchange," can you link it? .......... oh I see it needs login and registration; do they have lots of Engelhard's over there?
You've shown more bars..lol. I've "limited" myself to only a few left.. subject to change of course:
Portrait / no serial / logo on rev
Portrait / no serial / frosted rev
Landscape / no serial / Engelhard logo on rev - a member here acquired 4 of them recently and I inquired about buying 1 or more, but never heard back
Landscape / no serial / light frosted - 50,000 mintage but tough to find = interesting
Usually When PM starts moving I pull out the old odd &ends box and give it a little peek. Bought this over 10 years ago because it’s different and I liked it. Don’t know much about it but I bought it anyway .
@Mike59 said:
Usually When PM starts moving I pull out the old odd &ends box and give it a little peek. Bought this over 10 years ago because it’s different and I liked it. Don’t know much about it but I bought it anyway .
Those bars sell at a premium, usually. Reportedly, they were made by a bullion business located in New Hope, PA, circa 1980.
In addition to producing bars like this, the company also offered secure storage for their customers' bullion. But the storage part was a scam and they absconded with the bullion. The bars (in hand) are good, though.
@Mike59 said:
Usually When PM starts moving I pull out the old odd &ends box and give it a little peek. Bought this over 10 years ago because it’s different and I liked it. Don’t know much about it but I bought it anyway .
Those bars sell at a premium, usually. Reportedly, they were made by a bullion business located in New Hope, PA, circa 1980.
In addition to producing bars like this, the company also offered secure storage for their customers' bullion. But the storage part was a scam and they absconded with the bullion. The bars (in hand) are good, though.
Thanks for sharing the information, I appreciate it.
Mike
How much actual gold do you estimate is in that 700 oz of filled gold?
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Recent pickup. All Englehard says the DH is probably a collector's stamp and they have seen several on these on Series 2 bars. However, the font, spacing, depth, alignment, and toning look very similar to the original FINE SILVER stamping.
Maybe it belonged to David Hall, and he can make a big slab for it? Maybe a MS61? LOL
A couple early Englehard Series 1 bars. Note the offset 1 alignments are different and a lot of spatters. Looks like the top one was lightly stamped higher with something else at first. The decimal in between the 100 and 000 is also missing. They did not seem to have these stampings very consistent early on.
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Dang!!!
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So your saying my $3575 an ounce purchase is getting closer to melt.
I can live with that...
It just keeps going up! 😦
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Until it doesn’t
Unexpected gold pick up today, at the time I bought it, I was buying it under melt! But it pulled back enough that I’m over melt a little, but, for $600, I think this was a sweet little pick up:
Admittedly, I did not know one of these existed, I didn’t know they were making fractional gold in 1981.
It seems that that year they only did the quarter, the half, and the full ounce, nothing smaller until later on. Definitely an interesting little find.
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Wow! Never saw one of those before asheland.
I love the older libertad design over the current one.
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Looks like a nice grade. Many of the 1980s Libertads (gold and silver) often seem to be pretty beat up.
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Indeed, I’m very happy with this coin! Got a great look!
Thanks, everybody
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For right around melt, you have a beautiful quarter oz of Gold, with a limited run, with the added bonus of PCGS authentication and the extra liquidity that comes with a TPG.
Well done!
It's all about what the people want...
Thank you! I just love the thing, I’m trying to find a silver one that is just as pretty in the same grade, but of course that’s gonna cost me up the nose!
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Today’s pick up, this bar is super cool, but after this, and the other one that I’ve got coming in the mail I will post that when I get it I gotta take a break from buying for a while lol
I got this today 50 cents under spot!
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A 3 oz bar from my stash of old poured bars. Seemingly dated 1977 and no doubt given out to clients by Eden Investments.
I have no idea who produced these bars. Some on ebay have been very optimistically priced IMO.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
The "Gold Standard" 1 oz bars on this thread prompted me to dig up these photos of a product from that company. My recollection is that these prototypes were distributed to legislators as part of a lobbing effort.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
Very cool guys!
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And another of the NEVER ENDING Libs!
This is a fantasy piece made by Dennis England around 2010 among various other designs. A 4 oz one just sold on eBay for $2550! His bars, while newer, are insanely collectible for some reason. I sold a 3 Oz “goldbugs” bar for $1900 recently.
My latest from yesterday:
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Love those 20 oz. JMs! Nice heft to them.
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I was inspired by yours. I’ve always liked them myself. I finally paid up for this one.
I’ve seen the picture of the group of yours recently. I can’t remember where, any chance you could post it again here?
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Certainly!
This one is my favorite.
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Here is the trio.
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Those are awesome!
I also have one of the earlier kinds like that:
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That’s a great looking bar too. It will go well with your new serial numbered 20 oz.er
They really are cool. The 3 bars in my pic are part of my permanent collection. I just like them so much so I don’t mind the premium I paid for them. Although with this recent run-up, I’m ahead of the game on paper.
We have very similar interests in collecting. Pre-33 gold and cool poured silver bars are things I just can’t let go of.
Im sure you share the same sentiment. I know I’ve kept an eye out for your 1908 Saint with motto on the BST forum for quite a while, but it never shows up there. 😜
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
Yes, indeed! The pre33 Gold is a soft spot for me, and old poured silver bars also!
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So if we post up a picture it influences people to buy. Who would have thought
I have a JM 20 and an Engelhard 20.
Both bought years ago and complement each other.
My recent pickup made my wallet squawk.
Those are very cool!
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And another.. things are slowing down with the few left I need
Nice bar slowing down on the few left you Need? Or Want?
Did you happen to see the one on mineral exchange?
It was over $400 last time I looked.
You're absolutely correct! Want, not need.. and it changes by the minute
I'm not familiar with the "mineral exchange," can you link it? .......... oh I see it needs login and registration; do they have lots of Engelhard's over there?
You've shown more bars..lol. I've "limited" myself to only a few left.. subject to change of course:
Portrait / no serial / logo on rev
Portrait / no serial / frosted rev
Landscape / no serial / Engelhard logo on rev - a member here acquired 4 of them recently and I inquired about buying 1 or more, but never heard back
Landscape / no serial / light frosted - 50,000 mintage but tough to find = interesting
Lots of nice ways to spend money on mineral exchange.
Yes they have a large lot of Engelhard and many other vintage silver and gold.
Nice.. I bid on that Sheffeild, but I'm sure it's going to skyrocket out of my range.. thanks for the link
Usually When PM starts moving I pull out the old odd &ends box and give it a little peek. Bought this over 10 years ago because it’s different and I liked it. Don’t know much about it but I bought it anyway .
MIKE B.
Those bars sell at a premium, usually. Reportedly, they were made by a bullion business located in New Hope, PA, circa 1980.
In addition to producing bars like this, the company also offered secure storage for their customers' bullion. But the storage part was a scam and they absconded with the bullion. The bars (in hand) are good, though.
Thanks for sharing the information, I appreciate it.
Mike
MIKE B.
Two new pick ups this week!
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New pickup. Really liked the reverse pour. Do not know anything about the ACO or CAO? bar.
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No idea but that’s an awesome bar!
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@asheland unbelievable 5 oz. JM bar. Those are tough to find!
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It was literally the only one on eBay. I had to pay strong, but I just went ahead and did it! Glad I did, now.
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Here's a nice hunk of silver that's ending tonight at GreatCollections.
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1574339/2008-Massive-Silver-10185oz-Johnson-Matthey-IngotBar-Uncertified-ASW-101748-oz
I had lots of fun photographing this big boy.
Phil Arnold
Director of Photography, GreatCollections
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I looked it up.
The asking price was strong money.
Good that you opted for it and not the one listed at wild money
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700 ozt of gold filled
How much actual gold do you estimate is in that 700 oz of filled gold?
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This ended up netting 24.7ozt of gold.
And nearly the exact same weight in silver from it.
My math
is that 0.035% by weight?
Killer results from 700 ounces.
I have a few pieces kicking around here somewhere, I should start a bin
3.53% by weight
Pretty Good!
I knew it would happen.
So while I’m not a big lover of the Franklin Mint, I just love this 10,000 Grain Sterling Silver bar from around 1975…
MIKE B.
Recent pickup. All Englehard says the DH is probably a collector's stamp and they have seen several on these on Series 2 bars. However, the font, spacing, depth, alignment, and toning look very similar to the original FINE SILVER stamping.
Maybe it belonged to David Hall, and he can make a big slab for it? Maybe a MS61? LOL
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
A couple early Englehard Series 1 bars. Note the offset 1 alignments are different and a lot of spatters. Looks like the top one was lightly stamped higher with something else at first. The decimal in between the 100 and 000 is also missing. They did not seem to have these stampings very consistent early on.
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set