@JRR300 said:
Well my congrats to the Saints who didn't play their best game but were able to get the W. It's just a shame that Jeffrey, who has caught basically everything thrown to him, let that one go thru his hands. Boy that would have been a real interesting finish. The defending champs go down with nothing to be ashamed of, and just look out for them next year. At this point, I'd make the Saints the favorite to win it all, eventhough their D is still a little shaky for my liking. But Payton has such a good feel for coaching a big game and has the guts to gamble at the least likely time to make them the favorite.
BTW. Eagles were the only dog to cover the number this weekend....other games really not close.
Well we all knew, as expected, the Eagles would come out of the gate quite motivated to beat-up on Sean Payton's football team for what he did to them earlier in the season, and that's exactly what happened. However the Eagles likely used up too much adrenaline in doing that, and then they simply ran out of gas.
The Saints also had the advantage of a week's rest and playing at home, and Foles two interceptions certainly didn't help. Just one of those games the Eagles were not destined to win.
@perkdog said:
Good Season Steve, I’m not going to say I’m sorry the Eagles lost because I wanted them to get smashed but you got a solid team and hopefully for their sake they trade Wentz and keep Foles. 😂
Well Paul, you know that ain't gonna happen.
It's Wentz or bust for the Eagles next season, that's just the way it is.
@JRR300 said:
Well my congrats to the Saints who didn't play their best game but were able to get the W. It's just a shame that Jeffrey, who has caught basically everything thrown to him, let that one go thru his hands. Boy that would have been a real interesting finish. The defending champs go down with nothing to be ashamed of, and just look out for them next year. At this point, I'd make the Saints the favorite to win it all, eventhough their D is still a little shaky for my liking. But Payton has such a good feel for coaching a big game and has the guts to gamble at the least likely time to make them the favorite.
BTW. Eagles were the only dog to cover the number this weekend....other games really not close.
Well we all knew, as expected, the Eagles would come out of the gate quite motivated to beat-up on Sean Payton's football team for what he did to them earlier in the season, and that's exactly what happened. However the Eagles likely used up too much adrenaline in doing that, and then they simply ran out of gas.
The Saints also had the advantage of a week's rest and playing at home, and Foles two interceptions certainly didn't help. Just one of those games the Eagles were not destined to win.
Even funnier. Excuses are for the weak
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Saints coach Sean Payton dismisses the premise that the Eagles could derive extra motivation from the widespread perception that New Orleans ran up the score on them when they met in November.
''My question would be: We're all playing hard in these divisional playoff games, right?'' Payton began, referring to Sunday's rematch in the divisional round of the NFC playoffs. ''Are you going to play harder'' because of a perceived slight?
Still, Payton expects a more competitive affair than the Saints' 48-7 blowout of the Eagles on Nov. 18, which gave Philadelphia the dubious distinction of becoming the first reigning Super Bowl champion to lose by that wide a margin in the following regular season game
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@erikthredd said:
Is this Nick Foles last game in a Eagle jersey?
99% yes, unless Foles agrees to a contract for a lot less money than he could make playing for another team. Stranger things have happened, but I would be very surprised if this happens.
@JRR300 said:
Well my congrats to the Saints who didn't play their best game but were able to get the W. It's just a shame that Jeffrey, who has caught basically everything thrown to him, let that one go thru his hands. Boy that would have been a real interesting finish. The defending champs go down with nothing to be ashamed of, and just look out for them next year. At this point, I'd make the Saints the favorite to win it all, eventhough their D is still a little shaky for my liking. But Payton has such a good feel for coaching a big game and has the guts to gamble at the least likely time to make them the favorite.
BTW. Eagles were the only dog to cover the number this weekend....other games really not close.
Well we all knew, as expected, the Eagles would come out of the gate quite motivated to beat-up on Sean Payton's football team for what he did to them earlier in the season, and that's exactly what happened. However the Eagles likely used up too much adrenaline in doing that, and then they simply ran out of gas.
The Saints also had the advantage of a week's rest and playing at home, and Foles two interceptions certainly didn't help. Just one of those games the Eagles were not destined to win.
Even funnier. Excuses are for the weak
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Saints coach Sean Payton dismisses the premise that the Eagles could derive extra motivation from the widespread perception that New Orleans ran up the score on them when they met in November.
''My question would be: We're all playing hard in these divisional playoff games, right?'' Payton began, referring to Sunday's rematch in the divisional round of the NFC playoffs. ''Are you going to play harder'' because of a perceived slight?
Still, Payton expects a more competitive affair than the Saints' 48-7 blowout of the Eagles on Nov. 18, which gave Philadelphia the dubious distinction of becoming the first reigning Super Bowl champion to lose by that wide a margin in the following regular season game
Real men don’t make excuses. They just get it done. Info they don’t they just move on and fight the next battle.
The Eagles did themselves proud and never gave up. Can’t say the same for you. You gave up on them several times this season.
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@Justacommeman said:
Real men don’t make excuses. They just get it done. Info they don’t they just move on and fight the next battle.
The Eagles did themselves proud and never gave up. Can’t say the same for you. You gave up on them several times this season.
m
<<< You gave up on them several times this season. >>>
You must have lived a sheltered life when it comes to being a sports fan.
Eagles fans never give up on the Eagles, and I mean never. Just like sports fans from great sports towns such as New York, Boston, Chicago, and others.
If you can't understand it Mark, ain't no use trying to explain it to ya.
@Justacommeman said:
Real men don’t make excuses. They just get it done. Info they don’t they just move on and fight the next battle.
The Eagles did themselves proud and never gave up. Can’t say the same for you. You gave up on them several times this season.
m
<<< You gave up on them several times this season. >>>
You must have lived a sheltered life when it comes to being a sports fan.
Eagles fans never give up on the Eagles, and I mean never. Just like sports fans from great sports towns such as New York, Boston, Chicago, and others.
If you can't understand it Mark, ain't no use trying to explain it to ya.
We all watched you bail on the 2018 Eagles multiple times
The 2018 Eagles were warriors
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@Justacommeman said:
Real men don’t make excuses. They just get it done. Info they don’t they just move on and fight the next battle.
The Eagles did themselves proud and never gave up. Can’t say the same for you. You gave up on them several times this season.
m
<<< You gave up on them several times this season. >>>
You must have lived a sheltered life when it comes to being a sports fan.
Eagles fans never give up on the Eagles, and I mean never. Just like sports fans from great sports towns such as New York, Boston, Chicago, and others.
If you can't understand it Mark, ain't no use trying to explain it to ya.
We all watched you bail on the 2018 Eagles multiple times
The 2018 Eagles were warriors
m
You saw what you wished to see. Nothing i can do about that. Keep hanging around Sports Talk which i hope you will...I think you'll eventually learn.
The good news is the Eagles will be back in 2019, and if Carson Wentz stays healthy, anything is possible.
@perkdog said:
Good Season Steve, I’m not going to say I’m sorry the Eagles lost because I wanted them to get smashed but you got a solid team and hopefully for their sake they trade Wentz and keep Foles. 😂
Well Paul, you know that ain't gonna happen.
It's Wentz or bust for the Eagles next season, that's just the way it is.
We shall see what the future brings.
My comment about Foles/Wentz was tongue in cheek as I’m sure your aware but honestly given Wentz injury situation and inability to stay on the field the Eagles would be smart to do a temporary Brady/Garropolo type thing with these guys, maybe? Yes? No? I don’t really care but it would seem to make sense but unlikely to happen. Wentz might be the next “Red Rifle”
@perkdog said:
Good Season Steve, I’m not going to say I’m sorry the Eagles lost because I wanted them to get smashed but you got a solid team and hopefully for their sake they trade Wentz and keep Foles. 😂
Well Paul, you know that ain't gonna happen.
It's Wentz or bust for the Eagles next season, that's just the way it is.
We shall see what the future brings.
My comment about Foles/Wentz was tongue in cheek as I’m sure your aware but honestly given Wentz injury situation and inability to stay on the field the Eagles would be smart to do a temporary Brady/Garropolo type thing with these guys, maybe? Yes? No? I don’t really care but it would seem to make sense but unlikely to happen. Wentz might be the next “Red Rifle”
Well it's like the Marines always say in a dire situation of which they wish they were not in (paraphrase) "We can't refuse to accept the situation."
The situation is that Wentz is injury prone. He was injury prone in college and now in the NFL.
That being said, there is no chance the Eagles would have won a Super Bowl last season without Wentz racking up all those wins, and the Eagles gaining home field advantage. So frankly, for that alone, Philly's first Super Bowl championship, drafting Wentz was worth it in my view.
However moving forward, in my opinion, the best option is still Carson Wentz...and then keep the fingers crossed.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Steve being an uninformed Patriots guy like yourself you dont understand the love hate relationship we have with Belichek. I’m shocked you don’t understand after he gift wrapped a Super Bowl for you last year by not playing Butler 🙄
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Oh please,I don't nitpick Belichick the coach I nitpick Belichick the GM. There's a difference.
You ok today? You seem awfully bitter that Philly lost. We all know you really wanted to celebrate last night but just remember horse crap is for winners,Steve......horse crap is for winners
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Oh please,I don't nitpick Belichick the coach I nitpick Belichick the GM. There's a difference.
You ok today? You seem awfully bitter that Philly lost. We all know you really wanted to celebrate last night but just remember horse crap is for winners,Steve......horse crap is for winners
I'm not bitter at all. How you perceived "bitter" into any of my posts is baffling.
Not happy, disappointed? Of course I am.
But bitter after a glorious Super Bowl win last season? Not a chance.
BTW - Belichick's GM moves were phenomenal this season for a variety of reasons. Why don't you just admit it instead of the constant whining about Bill Belichick does this wrong, and Bill Belichick does that wrong..........
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Oh please,I don't nitpick Belichick the coach I nitpick Belichick the GM. There's a difference.
You ok today? You seem awfully bitter that Philly lost. We all know you really wanted to celebrate last night but just remember horse crap is for winners,Steve......horse crap is for winners
I'm not bitter at all. How you perceived "bitter" into any of my posts is baffling.
Not happy, disappointed? Of course I am.
But bitter after a glorious Super Bowl win last season? Not a chance.
BTW - Belichick's GM moves were phenomenal this season for a variety of reasons. Why don't you just admit it instead of the constant whining about Bill Belichick does this wrong, and Bill Belichick does that wrong..........
Not really. His lack of WRs early in the season cost them two wins when winning just one of those games would have been the difference between having the #1 seed and playing next week's Championship game at home instead of KC.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Steve being an uninformed Patriots guy like yourself you dont understand the love hate relationship we have with Belichek. I’m shocked you don’t understand after he gift wrapped a Super Bowl for you last year by not playing Butler 🙄
I don't need to be informed about the Patriots to clearly know his spectacular coaching record with the Patriots. Sometimes I think fans such as you and Eric can't see the forest for the trees. Belichick makes many good moves, and you guys harp on the few bad moves. It's silly.
Yes, he made a mistake with Butler, so then just forget about all the greatness he has brought to New England, and just constantly harp about Butler. It's ridiculous.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Oh please,I don't nitpick Belichick the coach I nitpick Belichick the GM. There's a difference.
You ok today? You seem awfully bitter that Philly lost. We all know you really wanted to celebrate last night but just remember horse crap is for winners,Steve......horse crap is for winners
I'm not bitter at all. How you perceived "bitter" into any of my posts is baffling.
Not happy, disappointed? Of course I am.
But bitter after a glorious Super Bowl win last season? Not a chance.
BTW - Belichick's GM moves were phenomenal this season for a variety of reasons. Why don't you just admit it instead of the constant whining about Bill Belichick does this wrong, and Bill Belichick does that wrong..........
Not really. His lack of WRs early in the season cost them two wins when winning just one of those games would have been the difference between having the #1 seed and playing next week's Championship game at home instead of KC.
It's just mind boggling. The guy gets you into the AFC championship game, and if you understand odds, it's basically a coin flip between the Patriots and a powerful Chiefs team which shows the respect for the Patriots...and you're still harping on something from early in the season? 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 - that's five official eye rolls.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Steve being an uninformed Patriots guy like yourself you dont understand the love hate relationship we have with Belichek. I’m shocked you don’t understand after he gift wrapped a Super Bowl for you last year by not playing Butler 🙄
I don't need to be informed about the Patriots to clearly know his spectacular coaching record with the Patriots. Sometimes I think fans such as you and Eric can't see the forest for the trees. Belichick makes many good moves, and you guys harp on the few bad moves. It's silly.
Yes, he made a mistake with Butler, so then just forget about all the greatness he has brought to New England, and just constantly harp about Butler. It's ridiculous.
We are not forgetting any of the great things he has done, I’m not sure how to make it clear to you I mean should we just post all the good things he has done over the years every time you bring his name up? It’s not realistic, what’s realistic is reminding you that HIS moves 99% chance cost NE a Super Bowl every time you talk about how awesome he is. I get it, if I was a Philly fan I’d think Big Bill is the BEST EVER on last year alone!
@Justacommeman said:
Real men don’t make excuses. They just get it done. Info they don’t they just move on and fight the next battle.
The Eagles did themselves proud and never gave up. Can’t say the same for you. You gave up on them several times this season.
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<<< You gave up on them several times this season. >>>
You must have lived a sheltered life when it comes to being a sports fan.
Eagles fans never give up on the Eagles, and I mean never. Just like sports fans from great sports towns such as New York, Boston, Chicago, and others.
If you can't understand it Mark, ain't no use trying to explain it to ya.
We all watched you bail on the 2018 Eagles multiple times
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Steve being an uninformed Patriots guy like yourself you dont understand the love hate relationship we have with Belichek. I’m shocked you don’t understand after he gift wrapped a Super Bowl for you last year by not playing Butler 🙄
I don't need to be informed about the Patriots to clearly know his spectacular coaching record with the Patriots. Sometimes I think fans such as you and Eric can't see the forest for the trees. Belichick makes many good moves, and you guys harp on the few bad moves. It's silly.
Yes, he made a mistake with Butler, so then just forget about all the greatness he has brought to New England, and just constantly harp about Butler. It's ridiculous.
We are not forgetting any of the great things he has done, I’m not sure how to make it clear to you I mean should we just post all the good things he has done over the years every time you bring his name up? It’s not realistic, what’s realistic is reminding you that HIS moves 99% chance cost NE a Super Bowl every time you talk about how awesome he is. I get it, if I was a Philly fan I’d think Big Bill is the BEST EVER on last year alone!
I'm not saying never criticize Bill Belichick. But I am saying show more appreciation...much more.
The guy is a living legend, an icon of NFL head coaching, still coaching at the highest level, and too often on this forum i see Belichick treated like some sort of loser rookie head coach with the worst treatment coming from Patriots fans. It's almost hard to believe.
Ten years from now, long after Belichick retires, when the Patriots are mired in another losing season with the usual dopey NFL head coach, you'll wish on the moon and stars that you had today's Bill Belichick coaching the Patriots.
I promise to pull up this "necro post" ten years from now and say i told ya so.
be interesting to see what happens to Graham and Hicks. Graham especially. Always answers the bell, rarely hurt and gives max effort every play. Hicks is a nice player but just can't stay healthy. Probably will only miss more games as the years pass. I sure would like to have that Cowboys LB (Vander Esch) who looks like the real thing. Unfortunately, it looks like we'll be opposing him for quite some time.
@stevek said:
My two bit playoff game analysis: Eagles versus Bears at Soldier Field
The Bears have been extremely tough to beat at home this season with a 7-1 record. This strong trend bodes well for the Bears.
Nick Foles took a brutal shot to the chest late in that game last Sunday which knocked him out of the game. How he recovers from that both physically and mentally, even Foles may not really know at this point. I have always had one big criticism of Doug Pederson since he became head coach, and that is not taking his QB's out of a game when the game is clearly won. For the life of me, I can't understand why he wouldn't automatically do that?
A number of other factors certainly favor the Bears winning this game. One of which since the Eagles won the Super Bowl last season, it might be difficult for them to get the necessary adrenaline level up to do it again. In life when it comes to success, it's always easier to get there than it is to stay there.
To win on Sunday, the Eagles are going to need to play basically a mistake free game. While the Bears are going to need to make some mistakes, perhaps one or two very bad mistakes such as a fumbled punt with an Eagles recovery. Not an easy task for what is going to be a very motivated crowd of loud cheering Bears fans at Soldier Field, hungry for a possible trip to the Super Bowl.
The Eagles are a long shot underdog in this game. A lot of pundits out there are predicting an Eagles win because of Nick Foles and his "magic" so to speak. I realize this next comment may sound silly, but I've noticed over the years whenever too many pundits predict a long shot underdog victory, it usually spells doom for the underdog.
So unfortunately, it seems that most if not almost all signs point to a Bears win on Sunday.
In any event, I will of course be rooting for the Eagles. However if the Eagles don't win, I'm not going to cry about it too much after coming off a Super Bowl season. That thrill is going to stay with me for a long time.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Steve being an uninformed Patriots guy like yourself you dont understand the love hate relationship we have with Belichek. I’m shocked you don’t understand after he gift wrapped a Super Bowl for you last year by not playing Butler 🙄
I don't need to be informed about the Patriots to clearly know his spectacular coaching record with the Patriots. Sometimes I think fans such as you and Eric can't see the forest for the trees. Belichick makes many good moves, and you guys harp on the few bad moves. It's silly.
Yes, he made a mistake with Butler, so then just forget about all the greatness he has brought to New England, and just constantly harp about Butler. It's ridiculous.
We are not forgetting any of the great things he has done, I’m not sure how to make it clear to you I mean should we just post all the good things he has done over the years every time you bring his name up? It’s not realistic, what’s realistic is reminding you that HIS moves 99% chance cost NE a Super Bowl every time you talk about how awesome he is. I get it, if I was a Philly fan I’d think Big Bill is the BEST EVER on last year alone!
I'm not saying never criticize Bill Belichick. But I am saying show more appreciation...much more.
The guy is a living legend, an icon of NFL head coaching, still coaching at the highest level, and too often on this forum i see Belichick treated like some sort of loser rookie head coach with the worst treatment coming from Patriots fans. It's almost hard to believe.
Ten years from now, long after Belichick retires, when the Patriots are mired in another losing season with the usual dopey NFL head coach, you'll wish on the moon and stars that you had today's Bill Belichick coaching the Patriots.
I promise to pull up this "necro post" ten years from now and say i told ya so.
Like I said before I was pretty satisfied after the Seattle Super Bowl Win and 1000% Satisfied after the greatest comeback in NFL history - Bar NONE- the Atlanta Super Bowl Win, I give Belichek his fair credit for those wins, I definitely appreciate him being our coach let’s not misunderstand that, but like everything there is always room to complain. I mean I complain about my Woman all the time but I do love her lol
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
@emeraldATV said:
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
@emeraldATV said:
Philly loves him . ever since he threw 7 tds in a blizzard
That 2013 season, just his second year in the league, Foles had one of the most remarkable seasons in NFL history with 27 touchdown passes and only two interceptions.
Yet, no Eagles fan who i knew, including me, thought that Foles was the Eagles great QB of the future. Foles played next season, had a lackluster performance, and was dumped by the Eagles in the off season.
Here is my take on this. First allow me to setup the following commentary which will lead to Foles. QB is by far the toughest position in team sports. I never played QB but I played high school football, just barely good enough to get my letter, I was basically a second string and special teams player, but i loved playing special teams for some reason, and I was pretty good at it. Especially on kickoff and punt returns, I had a really good knack of quickly analyzing the open field, figuring out the blocking schemes, and getting to the ball carrier and making the tackle. Also took some wicked hits in my time, one time a jerk blatantly clipped me, i went down, and wasn't sure if I was ever going to get up. Special teams can be brutal but i enjoyed it. So in a small way I do understand the brutality involved in the game. However whatever I endured, and any other player endures, it is nothing compared to playing quarterback.
During one game in high school, our quarterback, who was a tough guy, was getting killed out there. The opponent was far better than us, we couldn't block anything, and they were just teeing off on our quarterback. It was horrible to watch. After one series during the game, he comes off the field bawling almost like a baby from the pain of the hits, and let me tell you, not a single player, that I know of, ever mentioned it to him or even kidded him about it. He did gut it up and went back in and finished the game.
That story illustrates the life of a quarterback and here's my point leading to Nick Foles. It is my premise, that the most important attribute in an NFL QB, taken as a given a percentage of them are of basically equal talent, is the ability to withstand the brutal pain of 300lb killers constantly ramming their body. They are so vulnerable out there. Every QB has only so many hits they can take and then they basically fold up and quit. It is rare examples of guys like Tom Brady, Brett Favre, and others who can take a career of it and still perform at a high level season after season.
My opinion is that Foles had his limit during the 2014 season and even during parts of the 2013 season. Coaches call it "happy feet" and it's not a compliment. It means a QB who isn't willing to stand in the pocket long enough for a play to develop and releases the ball earlier than he should so as not to sustain a hit. While the QB protects himself, he hurts the team.
Look, nobody playing QB especially getting to the level of the NFL is a coward. And I am definitely not saying that about Nick Foles. But again, everyone has his limits on the pain their body can endure. I believe the Eagles and two other teams gave up on Nick Foles for that precise reason. Foles even strongly considered retiring at one point.
But the money and the action Foles obviously still enjoyed so he signed with the Eagles for the 2017 season, fully knowing he would just be a backup, which is a good way to collect a nice check and not needing to suffer punishment out there during games. Foles as we all know excelled for the Eagles in the 2017 season in the six games that he started including the Super Bowl. But can Nick Foles excel thru an entire NFL season of 16 games, with the hits etc? Well, three previous teams released him figuring that he couldn't. Of course the teams releasing him would never give "happy feet" as a reason.
But here is the interesting scenario for Nick Foles moving forward for NFL teams needing a QB to ponder. Yes, it's not debatable that under the old NFL rules, Nick Foles had happy feet or would develop happy feet if he played continuously in too many NFL games. But, with the new NFL rule changes protecting quarterbacks, it's possible that Nick Foles could perhaps perform at a high level the entire season, and possibly bring another team a Super Bowl championship...but then again, perhaps he can't. That's the roll of the dice that some team out there is going to take because certainly some team is going to take a chance and sign Foles for a lot of money.
In any event, I wish Nick Foles all the best, except of course when he plays the Eagles.
@emeraldATV said:
In any event, I wish Nick Foles all the best, except of course when he plays the Eagles.
I don't understand your ending statement. Looking at your logo, you must have respect for the things he has done
I choose the Eagles winning over any opposing player.
I've stated this before, I like Tom Brady, a lot..always have. But in the Super Bowl last season against the Eagles, if he would have had kidney stones during the game, it would have been fine with me.
@emeraldATV said:
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
I know right, I was totally bashing Bill Belichick just seconds after sunday's game ended too while giving all the credit to Tom Brady:
As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein who passed away in 2001. BB was leaning toward Qb Tim Rattay with that pick until Rehbein convinced him it should be Brady. This story is well known here in NE and has been mentioned in every Pats related book written in the last 20 years.
Seeing that your more of a coloring book type of guy I'll just leave these here for you: http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12175963/dick-rehbein-championed-tom-brady-new-england-patriots
No chance in hell Foles ends up in NE even though it sounds logical. Belichick will draft a QB to sit & develop until Brady retires. This season was the first in a very longtime where BB didn't have a recently drafted QB holding Brady's clipboard.
@emeraldATV said:
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
I know right, I was totally bashing Bill Belichick just seconds after sunday's game ended too while giving all the credit to Tom Brady:
As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein who passed away in 2001. BB was leaning toward Qb Tim Rattay with that pick until Rehbein convinced him it should be Brady. This story is well known here in NE and has been mentioned in every Pats related book written in the last 20 years.
Seeing that your more of a coloring book type of guy I'll just leave these here for you: http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12175963/dick-rehbein-championed-tom-brady-new-england-patriots
No chance in hell Foles ends up in NE even though it sounds logical. Belichick will draft a QB to sit & develop until Brady retires. This season was the first in a very longtime where BB didn't have a recently drafted QB holding Brady's clipboard.
Everyone knows the story about Dick Rehbein and Tom Brady, and he certainly deserves a portion of the credit. But you stating "all the credit" is absolutely pure nonsense. Belichick still analyzed it, and Belichick of course made the final call. But as usual, you don't want to give Belichick credit for some inexplicable reason.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
@emeraldATV said:
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
I know right, I was totally bashing Bill Belichick just seconds after sunday's game ended too while giving all the credit to Tom Brady:
As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein who passed away in 2001. BB was leaning toward Qb Tim Rattay with that pick until Rehbein convinced him it should be Brady. This story is well known here in NE and has been mentioned in every Pats related book written in the last 20 years.
Seeing that your more of a coloring book type of guy I'll just leave these here for you: http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12175963/dick-rehbein-championed-tom-brady-new-england-patriots
No chance in hell Foles ends up in NE even though it sounds logical. Belichick will draft a QB to sit & develop until Brady retires. This season was the first in a very longtime where BB didn't have a recently drafted QB holding Brady's clipboard.
Everyone knows the story about Dick Rehbein and Tom Brady, and he certainly deserves a portion of the credit. But you stating "all the credit" is absolutely pure nonsense. Belichick still analyzed it, and Belichick of course made the final call. But as usual, you don't want to give Belichick credit for some inexplicable reason.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
@emeraldATV said:
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
I know right, I was totally bashing Bill Belichick just seconds after sunday's game ended too while giving all the credit to Tom Brady:
As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein who passed away in 2001. BB was leaning toward Qb Tim Rattay with that pick until Rehbein convinced him it should be Brady. This story is well known here in NE and has been mentioned in every Pats related book written in the last 20 years.
Seeing that your more of a coloring book type of guy I'll just leave these here for you: http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12175963/dick-rehbein-championed-tom-brady-new-england-patriots
No chance in hell Foles ends up in NE even though it sounds logical. Belichick will draft a QB to sit & develop until Brady retires. This season was the first in a very longtime where BB didn't have a recently drafted QB holding Brady's clipboard.
Everyone knows the story about Dick Rehbein and Tom Brady, and he certainly deserves a portion of the credit. But you stating "all the credit" is absolutely pure nonsense. Belichick still analyzed it, and Belichick of course made the final call. But as usual, you don't want to give Belichick credit for some inexplicable reason.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Sounds like more horsechit to me:
then my very next comment saying I have faith in Brady & Belichick righting the ship
My only complaints with Belichik this season was for his lack of WRs early on during a stretch where they lost two games.
Keep pulling stuff out your rear,Steve, you're getting good at it.
@emeraldATV said:
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
I know right, I was totally bashing Bill Belichick just seconds after sunday's game ended too while giving all the credit to Tom Brady:
As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein who passed away in 2001. BB was leaning toward Qb Tim Rattay with that pick until Rehbein convinced him it should be Brady. This story is well known here in NE and has been mentioned in every Pats related book written in the last 20 years.
Seeing that your more of a coloring book type of guy I'll just leave these here for you: http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12175963/dick-rehbein-championed-tom-brady-new-england-patriots
No chance in hell Foles ends up in NE even though it sounds logical. Belichick will draft a QB to sit & develop until Brady retires. This season was the first in a very longtime where BB didn't have a recently drafted QB holding Brady's clipboard.
Everyone knows the story about Dick Rehbein and Tom Brady, and he certainly deserves a portion of the credit. But you stating "all the credit" is absolutely pure nonsense. Belichick still analyzed it, and Belichick of course made the final call. But as usual, you don't want to give Belichick credit for some inexplicable reason.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Minutes after the worst loss in NE's season and I wasn't blaming Belichick like some here did:
The CU forum setup makes it real easy to pull up old comments when you need to prove someone is f.o.s.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Sounds like more horsechit to me:
then my very next comment saying I have faith in Brady & Belichick righting the ship
My only complaints with Belichik this season was for his lack of WRs early on during a stretch where they lost two games.
Keep pulling stuff out your rear,Steve, you're getting good at it.
My remarks are geared towards you and the other Patriots fans here. It's not HS and you know it. Either you or someone else stated that on Boston sports talk radio, there are countless others who bash Belichick in the same manner as you are doing, IE: little to no respect for what Belichick has brought to the Patriots, INCLUDING Tom Brady.
You can spew all the potty mouth remarks that you wish as you seem to enjoy doing. The facts are that you don't like Bill Belichick personally and it clouds your better judgment. You should just admit it, otherwise your remarks come off as lunacy.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Sounds like more horsechit to me:
then my very next comment saying I have faith in Brady & Belichick righting the ship
My only complaints with Belichik this season was for his lack of WRs early on during a stretch where they lost two games.
Keep pulling stuff out your rear,Steve, you're getting good at it.
My remarks are geared towards you and the other Patriots fans here. It's not HS and you know it. Either you or someone else stated that on Boston sports talk radio, there are countless others who bash Belichick in the same manner as you are doing, IE: little to no respect for what Belichick has brought to the Patriots, INCLUDING Tom Brady.
You can spew all the potty mouth remarks that you wish as you seem to enjoy doing. The facts are that you don't like Bill Belichick personally and it clouds your better judgment. You should just admit it, otherwise your remarks come off as lunacy.
Cmon Steve,what another Pats fan has to say has zero relevance when you tell me I'm always bashing Belichick then blaming him after losses. ,if you're gonna put words in my mouth don't deflect when I post proof that I never said them.
And if you want to repeatedly point to Belichick drafting Brady then feel free to go find the Patriots All-Access draft clip (it exists) from the 2000 draft where Dick Rehbein made the case for Brady over Rattay. You keep acting like this was a huge decision that Belichick made at the time when in that moment it was just a choice between two players at the end of the draft. Belichick made that pick because Dick Rehbein convinced him to. That isn't me disrespecting Belichick's decision,that is me pointing out what really happened in that draft on that pick.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Sounds like more horsechit to me:
then my very next comment saying I have faith in Brady & Belichick righting the ship
My only complaints with Belichik this season was for his lack of WRs early on during a stretch where they lost two games.
Keep pulling stuff out your rear,Steve, you're getting good at it.
My remarks are geared towards you and the other Patriots fans here. It's not HS and you know it. Either you or someone else stated that on Boston sports talk radio, there are countless others who bash Belichick in the same manner as you are doing, IE: little to no respect for what Belichick has brought to the Patriots, INCLUDING Tom Brady.
You can spew all the potty mouth remarks that you wish as you seem to enjoy doing. The facts are that you don't like Bill Belichick personally and it clouds your better judgment. You should just admit it, otherwise your remarks come off as lunacy.
Cmon Steve,what another Pats fan has to say has zero relevance when you tell me I'm always bashing Belichick then blaming him after losses. ,if you're gonna put words in my mouth don't deflect when I post proof that I never said them.
Eric - Perhaps I was lumping together all the posts from you and others about the Belichick bashing. Certainly i'm not going to review your 2,848 posts, and Paul's many posts, and other Patriots fans just to prove a silly argument about you. The fact remains that many negative Belichick comments were said here by Patriots fans.
I even started a Bill Belichick bashing thread in regards to it many months ago. Whether or not the thread was official or unofficial, I don't recall.
@erikthredd said:
And if you want to repeatedly point to Belichick drafting Brady then feel free to go find the Patriots All-Access draft clip (it exists) from the 2000 draft where Dick Rehbein made the case for Brady over Rattay. You keep acting like this was a huge decision that Belichick made at the time when in that moment it was just a choice between two players at the end of the draft. Belichick made that pick because Dick Rehbein convinced him to. That isn't me disrespecting Belichick's decision,that is me pointing out what really happened in that draft on that pick.
I'll let ya off the hook a bit for your position about the Belichick bashing...but not on this point that you just brought up again.
Sorry Eric, but your remark of "As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein" displays an elementary lack of understanding of the scouting and drafting process. Being the good sports fan that you are, and that is not in dispute, but you should understand that NFL GM's hear this same thing all the time from their scouts, assistant coaches, friends and other sources, about the "can't miss" prospect, etc.
The fact is that many of these "can't miss" later round draft choices do miss. And despite Rehbein's recommendation, and i give him credit for it where credit is due, we all know that it was still Bill Belichick who evaluated the information and made the final call. So your comment of "all the credit" simply is erroneous.
And of course it turned out to be one of the finest 6th round draft picks in NFL history. Because of Brady's mind set about football, his toughness, his hard work ethic, and the willingness to be coached up despite his lack of physical skills which were obvious from his lackluster draft workout video.
Belichick-Brady, a pairing that I doubt if we will ever again see in our lifetime.
Eric knows I like him a lot. This was private, and it will remain private, but if it wasn't for Eric, I may have been thrown off the forum around a year ago. He gave me some advice thru a PM regarding a matter, and I heeded the advice and I will always be grateful to him for that.
So next time i'm busting someone's chops over a sports talk subject, you can blame Eric for it.
"Certainly i'm not going to review your 2,848 posts, and Paul's many posts, and other Patriots fans just to prove a silly argument about you."
Well maybe you should next time for clarification before calling someone out. Its just common sense and literally took about 30 seconds to find them without reviewing thousands of posts.
"The fact remains that many negative Belichick comments were said here by Patriots fans."
There have also been many negative Brady comments said here by Patriots fans including me but you just choose to ignore
those when they don't fit your agenda.
Fans are allowed to call out the Head Coach/GM/QB/Owner when its needed regardless of their success,its called accountability.
As for you continuing to harp on the 2000 draft pick,let it go already. Belichick made that pick for Rehbein which is all i've said from the beginning. You're arguing that I used the word All instead of part or most is just a sad attempt to save face.
"Certainly i'm not going to review your 2,848 posts, and Paul's many posts, and other Patriots fans just to prove a silly argument about you."
Well maybe you should next time for clarification before calling someone out. Its just common sense and literally took about 30 seconds to find them without reviewing thousands of posts.
"The fact remains that many negative Belichick comments were said here by Patriots fans."
There have also been many negative Brady comments said here by Patriots fans including me but you just choose to ignore
those when they don't fit your agenda.
Fans are allowed to call out the Head Coach/GM/QB/Owner when its needed regardless of their success,its called accountability.
As for you continuing to harp on the 2000 draft pick,let it go already. Belichick made that pick for Rehbein which is all i've said from the beginning. You're arguing that I used the word All instead of part or most is just a sad attempt to save face.
Well now you're trying to alter the clear implication of something you stated - all means all, last time I checked in the dictionary.
Agenda? If defending the GOAT NFL head coach from silly nitpicking is an agenda, then so be it...guilty as charged.
@stevek Erik is one of the most knowledgeable Pats fans here at CU, a fair weather fan he is NOT. I’m the biggest Belichek complainer here without question but still a faithful fan. You are allowed to criticize and critique the team you know a lot about and root for. You Steve have shown very little faith in your Eagles at times over the season but that’s part of being a fan right? We all want our team to win and get annoyed when they make questionable decisions. You blasted Pederson several times this season even though he led your team to a Super Bowl Victory last year.
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Well we all knew, as expected, the Eagles would come out of the gate quite motivated to beat-up on Sean Payton's football team for what he did to them earlier in the season, and that's exactly what happened. However the Eagles likely used up too much adrenaline in doing that, and then they simply ran out of gas.
The Saints also had the advantage of a week's rest and playing at home, and Foles two interceptions certainly didn't help. Just one of those games the Eagles were not destined to win.
Well Paul, you know that ain't gonna happen.
It's Wentz or bust for the Eagles next season, that's just the way it is.
We shall see what the future brings.
Even funnier. Excuses are for the weak
NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Saints coach Sean Payton dismisses the premise that the Eagles could derive extra motivation from the widespread perception that New Orleans ran up the score on them when they met in November.
''My question would be: We're all playing hard in these divisional playoff games, right?'' Payton began, referring to Sunday's rematch in the divisional round of the NFC playoffs. ''Are you going to play harder'' because of a perceived slight?
Still, Payton expects a more competitive affair than the Saints' 48-7 blowout of the Eagles on Nov. 18, which gave Philadelphia the dubious distinction of becoming the first reigning Super Bowl champion to lose by that wide a margin in the following regular season game
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/eagles-saints-preview-212015083--nfl.html
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
99% yes, unless Foles agrees to a contract for a lot less money than he could make playing for another team. Stranger things have happened, but I would be very surprised if this happens.
My comments weren't really excuses, they were reasons based on fact.
But hey, great job on the copy and paste. 🤣
Real men don’t make excuses. They just get it done. Info they don’t they just move on and fight the next battle.
The Eagles did themselves proud and never gave up. Can’t say the same for you. You gave up on them several times this season.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<<< You gave up on them several times this season. >>>
You must have lived a sheltered life when it comes to being a sports fan.
Eagles fans never give up on the Eagles, and I mean never. Just like sports fans from great sports towns such as New York, Boston, Chicago, and others.
If you can't understand it Mark, ain't no use trying to explain it to ya.
We all watched you bail on the 2018 Eagles multiple times
The 2018 Eagles were warriors
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
You saw what you wished to see. Nothing i can do about that. Keep hanging around Sports Talk which i hope you will...I think you'll eventually learn.
The good news is the Eagles will be back in 2019, and if Carson Wentz stays healthy, anything is possible.
My comment about Foles/Wentz was tongue in cheek as I’m sure your aware but honestly given Wentz injury situation and inability to stay on the field the Eagles would be smart to do a temporary Brady/Garropolo type thing with these guys, maybe? Yes? No? I don’t really care but it would seem to make sense but unlikely to happen. Wentz might be the next “Red Rifle”
Well it's like the Marines always say in a dire situation of which they wish they were not in (paraphrase) "We can't refuse to accept the situation."
The situation is that Wentz is injury prone. He was injury prone in college and now in the NFL.
That being said, there is no chance the Eagles would have won a Super Bowl last season without Wentz racking up all those wins, and the Eagles gaining home field advantage. So frankly, for that alone, Philly's first Super Bowl championship, drafting Wentz was worth it in my view.
However moving forward, in my opinion, the best option is still Carson Wentz...and then keep the fingers crossed.
@Justacommeman Yeah he started out with excuses then totally bailed last week before the game even started.
Eric
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Yea, says the "knowledgeable" Patriots fan who constantly nitpicks the greatest NFL head coach of all time, his own team's head coach Bill Belichick.
You bailed on Belichick a long time ago, and that is just plain ignorant and disrespectful to a great coach who has brought the Patriots so many Super Bowl championships.
If Belichick was coaching the Eagles with a record such as that, we would have made him an honorary mayor by now. But fair weather fans such as Eric, ostracize him every chance they get. It's pathetic.
Steve being an uninformed Patriots guy like yourself you dont understand the love hate relationship we have with Belichek. I’m shocked you don’t understand after he gift wrapped a Super Bowl for you last year by not playing Butler 🙄
Oh please,I don't nitpick Belichick the coach I nitpick Belichick the GM. There's a difference.
You ok today? You seem awfully bitter that Philly lost. We all know you really wanted to celebrate last night but just remember horse crap is for winners,Steve......horse crap is for winners
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I'm not bitter at all. How you perceived "bitter" into any of my posts is baffling.
Not happy, disappointed? Of course I am.
But bitter after a glorious Super Bowl win last season? Not a chance.
BTW - Belichick's GM moves were phenomenal this season for a variety of reasons. Why don't you just admit it instead of the constant whining about Bill Belichick does this wrong, and Bill Belichick does that wrong..........
Not really. His lack of WRs early in the season cost them two wins when winning just one of those games would have been the difference between having the #1 seed and playing next week's Championship game at home instead of KC.
Eric
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I don't need to be informed about the Patriots to clearly know his spectacular coaching record with the Patriots. Sometimes I think fans such as you and Eric can't see the forest for the trees. Belichick makes many good moves, and you guys harp on the few bad moves. It's silly.
Yes, he made a mistake with Butler, so then just forget about all the greatness he has brought to New England, and just constantly harp about Butler. It's ridiculous.
It's just mind boggling. The guy gets you into the AFC championship game, and if you understand odds, it's basically a coin flip between the Patriots and a powerful Chiefs team which shows the respect for the Patriots...and you're still harping on something from early in the season? 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 🙄 - that's five official eye rolls.
We are not forgetting any of the great things he has done, I’m not sure how to make it clear to you I mean should we just post all the good things he has done over the years every time you bring his name up? It’s not realistic, what’s realistic is reminding you that HIS moves 99% chance cost NE a Super Bowl every time you talk about how awesome he is. I get it, if I was a Philly fan I’d think Big Bill is the BEST EVER on last year alone!
You know what they say...…"one awh shit wipes out a hundred atta boy's!"
More like a blatantly incompetent/Selfish/ignorant decision. Take your pick 🙄
I'm not saying never criticize Bill Belichick. But I am saying show more appreciation...much more.
The guy is a living legend, an icon of NFL head coaching, still coaching at the highest level, and too often on this forum i see Belichick treated like some sort of loser rookie head coach with the worst treatment coming from Patriots fans. It's almost hard to believe.
Ten years from now, long after Belichick retires, when the Patriots are mired in another losing season with the usual dopey NFL head coach, you'll wish on the moon and stars that you had today's Bill Belichick coaching the Patriots.
I promise to pull up this "necro post" ten years from now and say i told ya so.
be interesting to see what happens to Graham and Hicks. Graham especially. Always answers the bell, rarely hurt and gives max effort every play. Hicks is a nice player but just can't stay healthy. Probably will only miss more games as the years pass. I sure would like to have that Cowboys LB (Vander Esch) who looks like the real thing. Unfortunately, it looks like we'll be opposing him for quite some time.
Like I said before I was pretty satisfied after the Seattle Super Bowl Win and 1000% Satisfied after the greatest comeback in NFL history - Bar NONE- the Atlanta Super Bowl Win, I give Belichek his fair credit for those wins, I definitely appreciate him being our coach let’s not misunderstand that, but like everything there is always room to complain. I mean I complain about my Woman all the time but I do love her lol
Just a gut feeling : After this round of play offs Tom Brady's is gonna re-think his retirement goal. " Tom I don't want you playing any more. Stay at home with us".
Enter, Nick Foles
That is a very interesting premise.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GOAT NFL head coach Bill Belichick may have already considered that possible scenario.
Of course Belichick bashers such as Eric wouldn't agree with that because he thinks Bill Belichick is the NFL's version of Alfred E. Neuman who simply once got lucky by drafting Tom Brady.
Philly loves him . ever since he threw 7 tds in a blizzard
That 2013 season, just his second year in the league, Foles had one of the most remarkable seasons in NFL history with 27 touchdown passes and only two interceptions.
Yet, no Eagles fan who i knew, including me, thought that Foles was the Eagles great QB of the future. Foles played next season, had a lackluster performance, and was dumped by the Eagles in the off season.
Here is my take on this. First allow me to setup the following commentary which will lead to Foles. QB is by far the toughest position in team sports. I never played QB but I played high school football, just barely good enough to get my letter, I was basically a second string and special teams player, but i loved playing special teams for some reason, and I was pretty good at it. Especially on kickoff and punt returns, I had a really good knack of quickly analyzing the open field, figuring out the blocking schemes, and getting to the ball carrier and making the tackle. Also took some wicked hits in my time, one time a jerk blatantly clipped me, i went down, and wasn't sure if I was ever going to get up. Special teams can be brutal but i enjoyed it. So in a small way I do understand the brutality involved in the game. However whatever I endured, and any other player endures, it is nothing compared to playing quarterback.
During one game in high school, our quarterback, who was a tough guy, was getting killed out there. The opponent was far better than us, we couldn't block anything, and they were just teeing off on our quarterback. It was horrible to watch. After one series during the game, he comes off the field bawling almost like a baby from the pain of the hits, and let me tell you, not a single player, that I know of, ever mentioned it to him or even kidded him about it. He did gut it up and went back in and finished the game.
That story illustrates the life of a quarterback and here's my point leading to Nick Foles. It is my premise, that the most important attribute in an NFL QB, taken as a given a percentage of them are of basically equal talent, is the ability to withstand the brutal pain of 300lb killers constantly ramming their body. They are so vulnerable out there. Every QB has only so many hits they can take and then they basically fold up and quit. It is rare examples of guys like Tom Brady, Brett Favre, and others who can take a career of it and still perform at a high level season after season.
My opinion is that Foles had his limit during the 2014 season and even during parts of the 2013 season. Coaches call it "happy feet" and it's not a compliment. It means a QB who isn't willing to stand in the pocket long enough for a play to develop and releases the ball earlier than he should so as not to sustain a hit. While the QB protects himself, he hurts the team.
Look, nobody playing QB especially getting to the level of the NFL is a coward. And I am definitely not saying that about Nick Foles. But again, everyone has his limits on the pain their body can endure. I believe the Eagles and two other teams gave up on Nick Foles for that precise reason. Foles even strongly considered retiring at one point.
But the money and the action Foles obviously still enjoyed so he signed with the Eagles for the 2017 season, fully knowing he would just be a backup, which is a good way to collect a nice check and not needing to suffer punishment out there during games. Foles as we all know excelled for the Eagles in the 2017 season in the six games that he started including the Super Bowl. But can Nick Foles excel thru an entire NFL season of 16 games, with the hits etc? Well, three previous teams released him figuring that he couldn't. Of course the teams releasing him would never give "happy feet" as a reason.
But here is the interesting scenario for Nick Foles moving forward for NFL teams needing a QB to ponder. Yes, it's not debatable that under the old NFL rules, Nick Foles had happy feet or would develop happy feet if he played continuously in too many NFL games. But, with the new NFL rule changes protecting quarterbacks, it's possible that Nick Foles could perhaps perform at a high level the entire season, and possibly bring another team a Super Bowl championship...but then again, perhaps he can't. That's the roll of the dice that some team out there is going to take because certainly some team is going to take a chance and sign Foles for a lot of money.
In any event, I wish Nick Foles all the best, except of course when he plays the Eagles.
In any event, I wish Nick Foles all the best, except of course when he plays the Eagles.
I don't understand your ending statement. Looking at your logo, you must have respect for the things he has done
I choose the Eagles winning over any opposing player.
I've stated this before, I like Tom Brady, a lot..always have. But in the Super Bowl last season against the Eagles, if he would have had kidney stones during the game, it would have been fine with me.
Plus a score with Peggy after the game.
Ten years from now B> @stevek said:
I know right, I was totally bashing Bill Belichick just seconds after sunday's game ended too while giving all the credit to Tom Brady:
As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein who passed away in 2001. BB was leaning toward Qb Tim Rattay with that pick until Rehbein convinced him it should be Brady. This story is well known here in NE and has been mentioned in every Pats related book written in the last 20 years.
Seeing that your more of a coloring book type of guy I'll just leave these here for you:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12175963/dick-rehbein-championed-tom-brady-new-england-patriots
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/this-coach-convinced-bill-belichick-to-draft-tom-brady-now-his-daughters-keep-his-memory-alive/2018/02/02/b610ce94-0820-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.57387474ce84
https://www.google.com/search?q=dick+rehbein+patriots+book&rlz=1CAHPZZ_enUS741US741&oq=dick+rehbein+patriots+book&aqs=chrome..69i57.8780j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
No chance in hell Foles ends up in NE even though it sounds logical. Belichick will draft a QB to sit & develop until Brady retires. This season was the first in a very longtime where BB didn't have a recently drafted QB holding Brady's clipboard.
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Everyone knows the story about Dick Rehbein and Tom Brady, and he certainly deserves a portion of the credit. But you stating "all the credit" is absolutely pure nonsense. Belichick still analyzed it, and Belichick of course made the final call. But as usual, you don't want to give Belichick credit for some inexplicable reason.
Frankly, I think most of your comments about Belichick are so weird considering his amazing record of success for your team, because you immensely dislike Belichick personally. And that spills over to your viewpoint about him as a coach/GM.
With your Belichick coloring book, the only crayon you use is the black one to scribble out everything you can. 🤣
But I do agree with ya about Foles going to the Patriots. An unlikely scenario for a variety of reasons. But remeber when it comes to the sheer genius of Bill Belichick, anything is possible.
I hadn't complained about Belichick in probably months until you started pulling quotes out of your ass yesterday morning just minutes after pulling out breakfast.
Eric
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Yea, because you're a fair weather fan and the Patriots started winning, so you stopped whining about Belichick.
Months ago you had no confidence whatsoever in Belichick revitalizing this season, despite his long record of outstanding success. And here he is in the AFC championship game.
Whether he beats the Chiefs or not seems like a coin flip, whichever way the ball bounces. But in any event, we all know that you'll be on here giving Belichick all the blame if he loses the game, and none of the credit if he wins.
Sounds like more horsechit to me:
then my very next comment saying I have faith in Brady & Belichick righting the ship
My only complaints with Belichik this season was for his lack of WRs early on during a stretch where they lost two games.
Keep pulling stuff out your rear,Steve, you're getting good at it.
Eric
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Minutes after the worst loss in NE's season and I wasn't blaming Belichick like some here did:
The CU forum setup makes it real easy to pull up old comments when you need to prove someone is f.o.s.
Eric
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My remarks are geared towards you and the other Patriots fans here. It's not HS and you know it. Either you or someone else stated that on Boston sports talk radio, there are countless others who bash Belichick in the same manner as you are doing, IE: little to no respect for what Belichick has brought to the Patriots, INCLUDING Tom Brady.
You can spew all the potty mouth remarks that you wish as you seem to enjoy doing. The facts are that you don't like Bill Belichick personally and it clouds your better judgment. You should just admit it, otherwise your remarks come off as lunacy.
is there a point to all this?
Cmon Steve,what another Pats fan has to say has zero relevance when you tell me I'm always bashing Belichick then blaming him after losses. ,if you're gonna put words in my mouth don't deflect when I post proof that I never said them.
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And if you want to repeatedly point to Belichick drafting Brady then feel free to go find the Patriots All-Access draft clip (it exists) from the 2000 draft where Dick Rehbein made the case for Brady over Rattay. You keep acting like this was a huge decision that Belichick made at the time when in that moment it was just a choice between two players at the end of the draft. Belichick made that pick because Dick Rehbein convinced him to. That isn't me disrespecting Belichick's decision,that is me pointing out what really happened in that draft on that pick.
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Eric - Perhaps I was lumping together all the posts from you and others about the Belichick bashing. Certainly i'm not going to review your 2,848 posts, and Paul's many posts, and other Patriots fans just to prove a silly argument about you. The fact remains that many negative Belichick comments were said here by Patriots fans.
I even started a Bill Belichick bashing thread in regards to it many months ago. Whether or not the thread was official or unofficial, I don't recall.
I'll let ya off the hook a bit for your position about the Belichick bashing...but not on this point that you just brought up again.
Sorry Eric, but your remark of "As for drafting Brady,all the credit goes to former Pats QB coach Dick Rehbein" displays an elementary lack of understanding of the scouting and drafting process. Being the good sports fan that you are, and that is not in dispute, but you should understand that NFL GM's hear this same thing all the time from their scouts, assistant coaches, friends and other sources, about the "can't miss" prospect, etc.
The fact is that many of these "can't miss" later round draft choices do miss. And despite Rehbein's recommendation, and i give him credit for it where credit is due, we all know that it was still Bill Belichick who evaluated the information and made the final call. So your comment of "all the credit" simply is erroneous.
And of course it turned out to be one of the finest 6th round draft picks in NFL history. Because of Brady's mind set about football, his toughness, his hard work ethic, and the willingness to be coached up despite his lack of physical skills which were obvious from his lackluster draft workout video.
Belichick-Brady, a pairing that I doubt if we will ever again see in our lifetime.
Eric knows I like him a lot. This was private, and it will remain private, but if it wasn't for Eric, I may have been thrown off the forum around a year ago. He gave me some advice thru a PM regarding a matter, and I heeded the advice and I will always be grateful to him for that.
So next time i'm busting someone's chops over a sports talk subject, you can blame Eric for it.
"Certainly i'm not going to review your 2,848 posts, and Paul's many posts, and other Patriots fans just to prove a silly argument about you."
Well maybe you should next time for clarification before calling someone out. Its just common sense and literally took about 30 seconds to find them without reviewing thousands of posts.
"The fact remains that many negative Belichick comments were said here by Patriots fans."
There have also been many negative Brady comments said here by Patriots fans including me but you just choose to ignore
those when they don't fit your agenda.
Fans are allowed to call out the Head Coach/GM/QB/Owner when its needed regardless of their success,its called accountability.
As for you continuing to harp on the 2000 draft pick,let it go already. Belichick made that pick for Rehbein which is all i've said from the beginning. You're arguing that I used the word All instead of part or most is just a sad attempt to save face.
Eric
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Well now you're trying to alter the clear implication of something you stated - all means all, last time I checked in the dictionary.
Agenda? If defending the GOAT NFL head coach from silly nitpicking is an agenda, then so be it...guilty as charged.
@stevek Erik is one of the most knowledgeable Pats fans here at CU, a fair weather fan he is NOT. I’m the biggest Belichek complainer here without question but still a faithful fan. You are allowed to criticize and critique the team you know a lot about and root for. You Steve have shown very little faith in your Eagles at times over the season but that’s part of being a fan right? We all want our team to win and get annoyed when they make questionable decisions. You blasted Pederson several times this season even though he led your team to a Super Bowl Victory last year.